Sounding off: Mom fears highway will be too loud for autistic son
VANCOUVER, Wash. – The mother of an autistic boy next to the Vancouver Highway project fears for her 6-year-old son’s health and wants to know why her neighborhood is not getting the same protection they see others getting.
Dylan Dodge's autism causes him to be sensitive to loud sounds.
That's why for the first time in state history the Washington Department of Transportation relocated Dylan and his family from their Vancouver home while the state built a new $45 million interchange next to their house.
The project on state Highway 500 and St. Johns Boulevard will improve the drive for 55,000 vehicles a day.
And when construction comes to an end, the state will move Dylan's family back in.
But when Dylan's mother, Melissa, came back to check on things she found a new offramp that cuts incredibly close to her house. There's only a whisper of dirt between the state's guardrail and the
family's home. An aerial photo taken before construction shows there used to be a hillside dotted with trees.
Neighbors to the west got a new sound wall to protect them from noise, but there's nothing to protect the Dodge family and their neighbors.
"When I bought my home 10 years ago, you can see the freeway is way over there. It wasn't right here in our yard. I didn't have children at the time," Melissa said. "I didn't fear someone was going to run off the road, texting and driving, drunk driving – and land in my house."
Don Wagner, the head of the Department of Transportation Southwest Washington sympathizes with the Dodges. But he says their neighborhood doesn't qualify for an extension of the sound wall for two reasons.
One: the road is not loud enough. Sound walls come into play when noise is at 67 decibels. According to the state, the Dodge's neighborhood is only at 64.
Two: It would cost taxpayers a quarter million dollars to build 500 more feet of wall, Wagner said.
It would also not meet the state's threshold, meaning it would benefit far too few people.
Several years ago, it was a similar story for neighbors on Highway 212 in Beaverton.
According to the Oregon Department of Transportation, the total cost for a sound wall to protect those families would have been more than $300,000. 
ODOT also looked at the cost per home. It was deemed affordable if it cost $25,000 and in some cases up to $35,000. But for neighbors in Beaverton, ODOT said it would have to spend more than $40,000 per residence. So the residents were out of luck.
In Vancouver, the DOT says the new raised offramp just outside the Dodge’s door actually acts like a wall to block sound from the highway and says its studies show life at the Dodge's home will actually be quieter than it was before.
"Which seems counterintuitive until you look at the design," Wagner said.
But Melissa Dodge still worries about her son's health and safety – and her property value – within their new reality.
"I don't understand how they can justify it," she said.
Washington DOT says it will build a six foot tall chain-link fence between the Dodge's home and the offramp and do some landscaping.
Well, it was worth a shot. Â LOL Â Hey I got a couple dogs after I moved to this place, and they are anxious without a yard. Â Think the county would move me?
Not true. We have autistic children next to an interstate and they are not othered wit the noise. They get used to it as well as the adults do. Buy the boy a set of earphones with soothing music.
I am sorry for the lady and her kid, but life happens, and it isn't the tax payer's job to fix it. Â For example, if you wouldn't have had an autistic kid, you would be expected to deal with the noise or move. Â Seems to me that the fact that you do have an autistic kid doesn't make tax payers have to pay your way. Â What if you had a 2 story house, and since you bought the house, you had a kid who is can't walk, and now you 'need' a 1 story house? Â Would you ask tax payers to buy you a new house because you need a 1 story house? Â No. Â If the state isn't paying everybody's new homes in the areas, this family shouldn't get special treatment. Â Just my opinion.
yes lets put 55,000 people on the outside to let one person have some peace and quiet. It just makes so much sense that way, ---NOT---. Tell the mother and kid to move if they do not like the noise.
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I completely agree with you! Not to sound insensitive, but a project of that magnitude should not be canceled because one woman and her child cant deal with the sound. If you are that worried about it, it's time to start looking for a place somewhere else.
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 @Colleen Hudson I'm sure that in your opinion, there are no limits when it comes to spending other peoples money.  And, you are right, there is no reasoning with the unreasonable.
 @Colleen Hudson There are many examples of ramps like this off 217 over in Beaverton.  Along HW26 there are huge apartment complexes that are very close to the highway, and I can assure you that the traffic on HW26 far, far exceeds the traffic on the highway in question.  Yes, that's in OR not WA but the same principles apply.  Did they get a good deal on their house because it was close to the freeway?  My guess is yes, they did.
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I'll say it again (and again and again); Is it the responsibility of the taxpayers of the state of WA to accommodate the special needs of this child, or is the responsibility of the parents to provide a safe and comfortable environment for this young man...??
I'm going to lean in favor of taxpayers paying for it. It's not entitlement here; it's not like she purposely had an autistic child to work the system. I don't want to tell you where I work, but if anybody knows how to jerk the system, it is some of the people I talk to every day. Some really need help, and she seems like one of them.
I'm bored, so I just read through all this stuff. I guess it's meant as entertainment, since the comments against Ms. Dodge are as exacerbating as possible. I get the facts: she bought a home, not super close to the highway, before she ever had a child. She had a child, and, who knows? Maybe at that point she wasn't in a position financially to move. And no one, I guess, would ever expect to have an autistic child. So there she was, in that house by the freeway, with her child, who turned out to be autistic. Bad enough. But then the state needs to expand the freeway system, and now there's no noise buffer and her child is extremely sensitive to sound... and the DOT has to have limits as far as when they'll build a sound wall, but maybe Ms. Dodge can't afford to move, either for personal financial reasons and/or the economy. I don't blame her and her neighbors' frustration. But the venom coming from the people who can actually find something to find fault with here is astounding. I live by the golden rule... I strive to treat other people the same way I would like them to treat me. Sure, money is an issue, but this is about more than money. And stop being so damned judgmental for the sake of entertainment or the pleasure of casting aspersions.
 @Persephonerocks The simple question is -  Is it the responsibility of the family to care for the special needs of their child, or is it the responsibility of all the taxpayers in the state of Washington..??
I have never seen and read so many ignorant comments in one area before in my life. Every one wants to pass judgement with out knowing all of the truth. One person says he saw little Dylan on the news broad cast and that the child seems fine to him. So you see this child on the news for what 20 seconds and that makes you qualified you to know how this autistic child reacts to different situations? If you people can't say some thing with some smarts behind it, then say nothing at all. None of us are looking for a free ride or a hand out. We want what other neighborhoods have with situations like this. Wsdot said 67 decibles is when a noise wall comes into play. That we are at 64. Come on, that is only 3 decibels difference? Think about it! How much difference do you think that noise actually is at 3 decibles difference? Andreson and Padden Park way have noise walls. This off ramp is 3 feet higher than my ground level in my back yard which is 10 feet from the off ramp. Think about the noise when the traffic gets backed up on the off ramp durning rush hour and or the noise of these sub woofers that go by all the time, or the big rigs and etc. When we bought our homes 10 yrs ago it was on a short little dead road with very little noise, and or traffic. Wsdot ripped up all the foliage that surrounded us. SR500 use to be approx. 60 feet from our homes when we bought our houses. Compare that to 5 feet and 10 feet now. I challange any one to come out here and see for your self. If we truely did not warrent a noise wall, then why has this story captured the attentions of Columbian News Paper and KATU 2 and KOIN 6? Think before you go mouthing off.
 @Colleen Hudson My gosh, Colleen, you are right.  How could the folks posting here be so insensitive?  Maybe we should just ask all the taxpayers to move everyone within a mile of any major road to a nice private country home away from any nasty old city noises?  And, oh my god, think of the poor folks that moved in on a flight path of the airport that then (gasp) figured out there are AIRPLANES that use that facility...!!  The horror...!!You seem very generous with other peoples money.  I suggest that we are all responsible for our own environment, our own choices.  You can't tell me that the freeway was a big surprise to the folks that live there, and, even if their child was born after they moved in there, well, isn't the welfare of that child the PARENTS responsibility, not the taxpayers...??
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It sounds to me like the WA tax-payers, via their State agencies, have already gone the "extra mile" to help Ms Dodge and her son; however, the line has to be drawn somewhere. Â Â
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If moving is not an immediate option (understandable in this real estate market), perhaps Ms Dodge should look into other options, including some suggested by other posters here in this forum... eg: arbor vitae trees in the yard, a "white noise" box, playing music, and so on. Â A little Internet research might offer still more ideas that she could do herself. Â Autism seems to be in the news quite a lot; there are probably organizations with web-sites that could offer suggestions that would help...Â
Maybe planting some arborvitae's  would help cut down on some of the noise.
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You are ignorant and very rude!
Lady, if you don't like it, move. What did you expect buying a house next to a freeway?
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 @Colleen Hudson  @QuandoQuandoQuando Colleen...am I an idiot to think that a freeway may have some noise associated with it, or would it be idiotic to assume that it would be silent as a night in the country?  You used the term "idiot" not me....
sounds like he's in iminent eminent domain danger
I have a hard time believing that her son is that sensitive to noise.... Judging by the picture, it looks like he will adjust fine.
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 @Colleen Hudson  @katufanman Is it the responsibility of the family to care for the special needs of their child, or is it the responsibility of all the taxpayers in the state of Washington..??  If the latter is the case, I want to be bought out and moved because on some nights, I can hear I-5 from my back yard.  Of course, I-5 was there long before I had my home built, but my goodness, there's so much more traffic now..!!  How dare them...!!
 @katufanman Kids with autism can have extreme reactions to noise because of a sensory disorder they have. What sets it off can vary from child to child. Our daughter does not like loud sounds of any kind and will often hide and go into an almost primitive fight or flight mode if it's too much.
 @Jenni S.  @katufanman Then she needs to move.  It always amazes me when I see nice homes built right next to or on a busy throughway.  Even when they may have been built when it was not so busy.  Have some foresight people!  And we don't need to be spending a quarter million dollars to make sure one 'special' kid is pacified.
 @someguyinvanc  @Jenni S.  @katufanman @Melissa - Was the fact that your home lies next to a major freeway a big surprise...??
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We are not asking for finanial compensation. We are asking for a wall for ALL our neighbors. The news chose to only air my family....the others were there and interveiwed as well.Â
 @Colleen Hudson  @someguyinvanc  @Jenni  @katufanman Actually, Colleen, it is one family that is asking for some financial compensation for one child.  The other folks in the development seem OK with the noise levels.
It is funny how people nowadays play the "whatever" card. The card here is autism. I know I'll sound Republican writing this (and I'm not)--but this is total victim mentality. This lady (bless her) thinks the state of Oregon must offer up special accommodation for her and her boy....because he has challenges. It's not all together her fault, people have been taught to look for sympathy and assistance when they have children with special needs. This situation is definitely a bit much, however. Â A request like this borders on "grandiosity". Â
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 @Colleen Hudson  @Philip "...there are many of us that this has effected..."....like who?  And, what would you like the taxpayers of WA state to do for you? Â
A new home for free? Â Hey, I can hear I-5 from my home when the conditions are just right....should I ask WA state to move me or build me a wall too...??
It's in Washington, not Oregon.
"....One: the road is not loud enough. Sound walls come into play when noise is at 67 decibels. According to the state, the Dodge's neighborhood is only at 64...."
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Good freaking grief. Â Put that into perspective; normal conversation at 3' runs 60-65 dB. Â So, what she is saying is that 65 dB, or normal conversation at 3' is too loud for her son. Â If that's the case, this woman has bigger problems than the new freeway.
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I have sympathy for the kid, but given the events (state paid to house them during the construction, etc.) I have to wonder if this lady is looking for an excuse for the taxpayers to buy her a new house. Â Hmm......
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 @Colleen Hudson I'd be happy to educate you about the decibel scale.  The difference between 67 and 64 dB is three dB, which is exactly half the noise "power" and a huge difference in perceived noise level.  Perhaps, Colleen, it is YOU that should become more informed before you spout entitlement rhetoric and embarrass yourself with silly and uninformed comments?  Just a thought....
I've used this pseudonym for many years, Colleen.  Sorry if that doesn't suit your needs.
You are exactly right. I know this family personally however since this "fight" with WSDOT I am no longer associating on this because I don't feel what they are trying to accomplish is right!!! The state and more specifically WSDOT have been more than accomdating. If you read an article that The Columbian ran on Wednesday, it states "The Dodge's have asked WSDOT to buy their house." I even went to a meeting with Melissa to WSDOT.
@karic Boo to you! You really don't know what your talking about either.
@'CouvGuy @Colleen Hudson-this person doesn't have anything to do with us because we refused to let her live in our home and trash it. My husband and I don't deal with lying, stealing or people who abandone their children.Â
 @Colleen Hudson  @karic ...so, she says she personally knows the family and you say she doesn't know what she's talking about...??  If the family has asked WSDOT to buy them out, doesn't that say much...??
@'CouvGuy Another perspective would be to point out the difference 3 decibels makes between 67 and 64. One is worthy of a wall, the other not. Iâm sure her son can handle a normal conversation at 3â, but can he handle said conversation at 3â while also hearing sounds equivalent to a normal conversation at 3â?
 @JTesla As I understand it, the issue is dB level, not the complexity of the waveforms he's being exposed to.  We are not talking about a huge amount of noise; can he stand outside with the wind blowing and listen to a conversation?  What about the shopping mall?  These are not extraordinary levels of noise, even for someone with a disability.Â
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If the young man is truly this sensitive to complex noise, I'd think the photo of him standing (gasp) right next to the freeway would have been an excruciating and intolerable experience.  Wonder if he's waving his arms in panic, due to the pain...??Facetiousness aside, I still wonder that what Mom really wants is for the taxpayers of WA state to buy her a new house and move her.  After all, the state did move and house them during the construction.  I'm sympathetic but this sure smells of an entitlement attitude, IMHO.
 @Colleen Hudson  @JTesla "...no one on this street is looking for a hand out...".  Oh, really.  Only half a million dollars in a concrete wall...??  That's not a hand out, that's what you are entitled to..!! Â
 @Colleen Hudson  @JTesla ...so shut up?  On come on Colleen...tell us how you really feel...!!!
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 @Colleen Hudson Colleen, it makes perfect sense if you'd take the time to learn about dB and how it is a logarithmic scale.  And, it's not "my" chart...there are a ton of resources on the web that discuss the dB scale.  Honestly, I'm trying not to be argumentative, but you really need to get your facts in order.  dB or not, the issue is actually very simple - Is it the responsibility of the taxpayers in the state of WA to accommodate the special needs of this young man, or is the care of their child the parents responsibility...??
Melissa, PACK-UP & MOVE...
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 @Colleen Hudson  @August100 It's a snap if you can get the taxpayers of WA to pay for it.  Or, drop a few hundred thousand dollars for a wall.  Hey, it's other people's money, spend like crazy...!!!
 @August100 I'm sure she'd be thrilled to do so...as long as the taxpayers of WA State bought her a new house and paid her moving expenses.
"Dylan Dodge's autism causes him to be sensitive to loud sounds."
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And they live next to the freeway!!!!!! What is wrong with that picture????
 @RalphCramden It is an unfortunate situation. She didn't have a child with autism when she bought the house. That's not something you can ever plan for.Â
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Moving may not be an option. I know it isn't for me. We bought our house around the same time and thanks to our wonderful economy and the fall of the housing market we can't afford to move, even though we would like to. Our property values have dropped so much in the last few years that we're practically upside down on the house. Very sad.Â
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I understand that. My son has severe schizophrenia and the noise is a problem for him also. No matter where one goes in the city there will be noise. The only option to get away from it is the country where there is no noise other than nature sounds.
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If it were me I would be moving and not expect the government to fix the problem.
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There are other options like making the house more sound proof or as my wife and I did, play music for my son all the time. He liked that and then loud noises were not an issue for him.
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I understand that. My son has severe schizophrenia and the noise is a problem for him also. No matter where one goes in the city there will be noise. The only option to get away from it is the country where there is no noise other than nature sounds.
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If it were me I would be moving and not expect the government to fix the problem.
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There are other options like making the house more sound proof or as my wife and I did, play music for my son all the time. He liked that and then loud noises were not an issue for him.
 @Colleen Hudson  @RalphCramden  @mkamom The difference between 67 and 64 dB is tremendous.  Perhaps it is YOU that need to learn the facts, rather than cry for you entitled benefits at the expense of the taxpayers of WA.
Just to clarify something. We are not expecting WSDOT to buy us out, what we want is a sound wall for all of us. Our neighbors are going through the same thing as us. We all need this wall, not just us. I agree we can move but what about anyone else that moves into that home? They need the wall as well. Come look in our yard or our neighbors yard. There is a huge wall down the way in front of what used to be a moble home park and now will be two ponds. How do two ponds justify a sound wall yet actual people do no?
 @Melissa Weaver-Dodge Sorry, Melissa, but at a quarter of a million taxpayers dollars, you are being selfish and greedy. When you bought a house next to a freeway, you should have known the freeway could grow. It's like people who buy a house next to an airport, then throw a fit when the airport needs to add a new runway. Obviously, they didn't build the wall next to two ponds, they built it when there was a mobile home park there. Don't be ridiculous. Buy your son a white noise box, they aren't expensive. I have one in my room that's on 24 hours a day, it does wonders at blocking unwanted noise. If that doesn't help, move.
 @Melissa Weaver-Dodge Can you put a white sound machine in your house or something that will block out the noises?  I have one and it helps.  I understand your frustration also.  I don't think anyone understands what an Autistic person goes through with a hearing sensory disorder. Â
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You chose to live next to the freeway. Now deal with it.
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Walls do not prevent noise. It just changes the way sound moves.