Women say 'Internet Casanova' stole valuables, money
PORTLAND, Ore. – Police across Oregon are looking for a man who women say they met online and who stole more than just their hearts.
The man's real name is Ray Holycross, although the 29-year-old Indiana native also uses the names "Ray Cross" and "Ray Tompson."
For about five months he lived in a Cedar Mill area home with a woman he met online.
"He moved in with me about a month after we started dating," Jenn Clark told KATU News by phone, saying Holycross ripped her off.
Clark's home is now for sale. She says Holycross talked her into selling her home, her car and everything else of real value because the two were supposed to move to Chicago together. Then Clark says Holycross took her laptop, her iPhone and almost a thousand dollars in cash and left town.
"It's completely destroyed my life," she said. "I used to have a home, and I lost everything because of him."
Clark and five other women told KATU News they met Holycross on the same website.
"He messaged me on Plenty of Fish," a woman named Tasha said.
Another woman, Michelle, said he told her he was from Chicago and new to town.
A woman named Stephanie said Holycross moved way too fast, asking her out for drinks almost immediately.
"Then he messaged me and said, 'Oh, we should move in together.' And I said, 'Hey, I don't know you.'"
They all said he had stories for why he needed money or a place to sleep.
"He messages me and says, 'I don't know what to do. My hotel room got robbed, and I have nowhere to go," Tasha said.
Like Clark, Michelle woke up one morning and found Holycross gone along with her ATM card.
"He scammed all of us. He's a professional at this," Michelle said.
Women from Texas, Florida, Illinois, Michigan and Oregon have all filed complaints about Holycross and his alleged dating scam.
Holycross did not respond to KATU's numerous text messages and emails asking for his side of the story.
These women are pathetic lol! Women have been doing the samething to men for the longest yet you don't hear of no police man hunt for them. Its funny how society steps in and takes over for females making mistakes therefore alleving them of the bad choices they make on the regular. What about the women always asking for dinner expecting the man to pay and never follows up with him for another date????? ?These women are pathetic like i said and it SHOWS BIG TIME!
I don't know why I read these horrible comments. People dont deserve to be abused. The people on here that think what he did is her fault are disgusting. What if this happened to some one you loved. I for one do not blame the women..this happens to men and women all the time. Finally someone is t sitting back and keeping to themselves. Props to her for getting the story out. Its not like this has happened to just her!
She was losing her house before she even met this guy. Â And she knew about his website set up by other "victims" (if thats what you want to call them, i call them ignorant woman that let men walk all over them) within the first month they were dating. Â She knew what kind of guy this smuck was but chose to ignore the facts and proceed with the make believe relationship.... Some people with never learn. Â Wouldnt surprise me if she got back together with him if he came crawling back. Â Maybe he will promise her the moon this time.Â
@addison900 Really! Who gives a crud about her house or if she new the story. From what I heard he gave the some pathetic stories over and over. He Is a pos and finds women who a vonarable. You should be ashamed of yourself. No body deserves to be used and abused.
What was that P.T. Barnum said?
Some about something being born every minute?
It's right on the tip of my tongue...
LMAO!
HAAA, he took "her home, her car and everything else of real value.." what a stupid woman!!!! Hey there's plenty of shelters all around the Portland area, go for it lady! LMAO!!!!!!!!!!! :)
@Felix Jr Rosalez Did this,comment make you feel good about yourself? Have some respect.
There has to be more to the story. Maybe he talked her into taking a second mortgage against the house and they spend the money and now she cant make the payments. They also probably spent the money she got from the car. I was smart enough to stop before I lost my house but I sol my car and now he is driving a pickup that the money from the car sale bought
Nope, he stole the money she got from selling her car. Since the plan was to go to Chicago..... There's not more to the story. He's a horrible human being period.
He looks like the 'boy next door'. Â Sociopath: charming, persuasive, believes his own lies, no conscience, other people owe him a living, manipulative, lies when the truth would serve him better. DANG...sounds just like my
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what the heck! did he cast a spell over them to make them do all that?
"It's completely destroyed my life," she said. "I used to have a home, and I lost everything because of him."
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SERIOUSLY! He stole a computer a phone and some cash and now your life is over?
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Jenn Clark needs to have her head examined before dating again and definitely before breeding.
He is by no means professional, these ladies were just very gullible. Â It has nothing to do with having hope for humanity, this could happen in any day and age in different forms. Â If you take a chance and a risk, you have to accept the fact that there could be bad consequences. Â
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It's sweet that they thought they'd found love though, and heartbreaking that a person could be so awful as to play on a person's deepest emotions. Â
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But please, don't give this guy any more credit than he's worth. Â He's just like any other online creep and he's not worthy of being called a professional. Â
 @Ixyavi Sorry, but it looks like Ray Holycross (or whatever name he goes by at the mo) has defrauded several dozen women across the US. He's a professional in the sense that seducing women and stealing from them is his only source of income.
 @Redjackbonney  @Ixyavi not a professional, just knows how to pick up on the weak and pathetic.Â
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Dating sites are just places to learn about other people's wants, needs, and desires. They do not guarantee happiness ever after. All they do is get 2 people together. It is up to those 2 to decide if their match was made in heaven or the gutter. This is where personal responsibility is supposed to take over. Most of the time, the old caveat about "buyer beware" must take over. Look before you leap!Â
I'd pile on and write about how stoopid the victim was...except look at this dude--of course she hoped for the best!
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I can and do have sympathy because about 15 years ago I was seeing someone incredibly attractive to me and it was as if I were drugged. I would have sold anything to ensure being with the object of my desire. Fortunately, *my* person was not a scam artist, and though I spent a small fortune, she did not ask me to sell my house. Believe me, if she would have asked...I would have! I did learn that we all have an amazing capacity to tell ourselves all sorts of stories about what is real. I'm glad she came forward to expose this guy. Karma will get him, but what would be much better would be if he got brought up on formal theft charges.Â
People be kind... Lest you be judged in the same manner.
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 There is something beautiful, in this day and age, about a woman who has not lost hope in humanity. It takes great strength to share your compassion, love and trust with a stranger. Is that not a characteristic we should all strive for? Think what a beautiful place this would be if everyone helped one another, and always gave them the benefit of the doubt.Â
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I don't claim to know these ladies' story or the time-frame by which he took their hearts/possessions, but it is clear that these women where not desperate. They were kind, loving, trusting and compassionate; a quality most of the previous commenters could stand to acquire.
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 Money and possessions can be replaced. It's our faith in humanity, our love for a human being and the compassion we give to all walks of life that is priceless.Â
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These women were not victims. Victims lie down and take it. Clearly, through the websites created and these news reports they are fighting back and protecting others. That's what you do. You give your soul, your heart, completely... then deal with what comes. Sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't. It's a balance of dark and light. With out darkness you never truly know the flame that lights your spirit.Â
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Sure it's easy to say in hindsight that there were "tells" and they should have seen the signs, but love is blinding, and love is the most powerful and important force in this world. I applaud these women, especially Jenn, for taking the risk, trying to help a stranger, and giving themselves over to love. It takes true strength and courage to give all of your heart 100% and then when it doesn't work out, set aside your pride, learn from the experience and create a nation wide alert to save other women.Â
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Please do not spread such evil hate towards women you do not know. This life is short and we all need each other. Walk in their shoes, get to know someone, before you pass such harsh judgements.Â
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What a wasted life he must have to spend it this way, but what a beautiful hope for humanity this world has if there are so many women still out there willing to care for a stranger and give everything for a chance at true love. These women give hope to a brighter future. Itâs not what happens to us that makes you a victim. Itâs what you do about it once the dust has settled.Â
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As sad as this story is, saddest of all is the comments on this page. Have we truly become so cynical, untrusting and self-entitled that we would cast such one-sided and negative stones? All of you who think so poorly of these women, can you honestly not see the love and compassion in their hearts?Â
@Jax Oh gag me. You can be full of compassion for humankind. Go ahead and be trusting. But what's wrong with being a strong woman (or man) who knows when she's being taken. Sorry...all your hearts and flowers rhetoric doesn't go these days. And "no"...I don't see the "love and compassion in their hearts"...what I see is..."wow, I want this one. If I just give him a little more, and a little more, and do what he asks....he'll be all mine!" That's what I see. Love is blind Jax...and a little on the dumb side too.
Well said.
This is really sad. Reminds me of Giovanni Vigliotto in AZ - men like this needs to hung by their body parts...and women that follow in their footsteps. This is the worst kind of people to people crime. Some of the posters here might do well to have or suffer some of what these women have....this is something you just don't ever recover from.
I meant women that do the same thing - not follow....Phillip Marlowe & Jax have the kind of attitude that can only come from good, caring parents...those of you blaming the victim...shame on you....
 @KHEB Yes, because nice, polarized views on it are good!  Putting all the blame on either is just plain bad.  Splitting it between them however, is not.  It still took the victim's willing co-operation to not notice they were being scammed.
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By not putting any blame on the victim, you are enabling them to make further bad choices because "It's OK, it's not your fault."  What those women need IS someone who's willing to point out where they were at fault at, ***in a constructive manner as to obtain actual results***, and preferably by someone they trust.  By not pointing this out, you leave those qualities right there, to be taken advantage of another time... perpetuating the victim's helplessness.  The next person will just have to be a tad slicker, that's all.
This story goes both ways women and men have been screwing over each other for years,the differance is when men get it done to them, the embarasment causes them to keep there mouths shut because most guy friends just pile on. Women on the other hand are much more compassionete to their female counterparts.
The fact that all of you are passing judgment on this sickens me. These women may have not been using the best judgment when trying to be a good person and were taken advantage of but the fact that you are saying such horrible things SICKENS ME. Â Obviously you didnât have a parent who taught you manners to keep your comments to yourself if you donât have anything nice to say. The best part of this whole comment string is that if you would have been contacted by him you would have fallen for it hook line and sinker as well. People like you are the reason we have a society that treats others the way it does.
@AMV82  Well...I for one had excellent parents. They also taught me not to be duped into doing some stupid crap...like this. And maybe the problem is...if we keep our comments to ourselves, no one will think about what was said and no one will learn anything. For some of these women, I doubt they've learned anything yet.
 @AMV82 Welcome to the Internet, it's always good to see new people embracing technology -  It's not your mom's living room, so if you can't run with the big dogs out in the wide world, best to stay home.  Besides, he's not my type, he's under 30.
I am appalled at some of these comments. If you care to assume these women are desperate because they were smitten by a handsome smooth talker then so be it. But I don't find it necessary for you people to PRETEND to know a situation. Lets also not pretend that everyone has be "had" by a bad person once in their lives (maybe not scammed but taken advantage of). Congratulations on being so much smarter and better than online dating. But keep it to yourself. Jenn, I think you're very brave for going public and I hope this very expensive life lesson has a silver lining. Your friend, Amanda.Â
Thank you for supporting Jen
I tried the free dating sites - plentyoffish.com and okcupid.com. There may be a few good ones there, but I found that a pay site like match.com has a better selection.
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My advice is to meet many to get a better feel what you are looking for, approach each meeting as an opportunity to learn about someone new, keep expectations low and dont be desperate to get into a relationship. Also, it is a good idea to get ones "Bat Chit Crazy" detector tuned up.
I would totally be embarassed to go on TV and let a whole bunch of viewers know how desperate I was for a man that I fell for this scam hook line and sinker! What is the MATTER with women??!??? And men too, because they fall into this pit also. Don't these people think?!???? I'm not sorry for any of them...not one. They are to blame for what happened also. I'm with Billy...what the hell is the rush???? And met them online yet!!! The worst possible place to meet someone with romance in mind. Gosh...it's mindboggling. Sorry ladies...no sympathies here.
I have never understood why anyone would be so desperate for a relationship that they would throw all reason out the window. But I guess this isn't uncommon.
People, if someone asks to move in with you and you just met them, or if they ask for money and you just met them, or they ask you to sign for a loan or drastically change your life and you just met them, please realize it's not a relationship they want.
Please get a dog or a cat, they won't take advantage of you. Well a cat will, but not like this!!!
 @Owt_Raged Hey!!!
Men have to think with the Big Head. Women just have to go a little slower, what's the rush?
There's women out there that do this too, except they ask for the money instead of stealing it. Â They then go on and date like 8 other people at the same time and milk everyone for whatever they can get.
Try charging the girls with a crime, not going to happen!!
"Holycross did not respond to KATU's numerous text messages and emails asking for his side of the story."
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Maybe they should place an ad at that site, and meet him in person. Â Scam the scammer!
"Just a gigalo and everywhere I go people are talkin' about me"Â Â David Lee Roth made a bunch of money about this.
 @Ghetto Baby Roth's version was a remake of a remake of a remake of a remake of a remake of a remake of a remake of a remake of a remake.
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"It's completely destroyed my life," she said. "I used to have a home, and I lost everything because of him."
Nooo... you lost everything because of the decisions YOU made, due to desperation on your part. All of the women did'nt even take the time to get to know this guy before moving him in with them. They could have helped pay for a motel for him. I venture to guess they were flattered that a good looking young guy wanted them. But you know what do you expect when you pick someone up off the internet.
@jonsiesd2 And at this point she has not lost everything and she has learned a valuable lesson. It is perfectly acceptible to change your mind about selling your house. Unlist it. The rest are material possessions that can be replaced. Cry baby drama queen. She's pissed for being a fool.
 @anonymous guy  @jonsiesd2 Or saving other gullible women from the same fate.Â
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There's NO excuse for what this parasite did / is doing... but with all the stories like this that have hit the media, especially since the advent of on-line "dating services" and "social networks", why are some people so bound and determined to set themselves up as victims??? Â
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I just don't understand it at all...
 @margay1 It's not like online dating is anything new...been going strong for at least 12 years that I know of, probably longer.
Yikes! Although this is especially bad,I've heard my share of nightmare stories from women who have done online dating.Maybe the Christian online dating site might be more reliable.*sarc*
I've been suckered by a pretty young woman (that's called Feminine Empowerment) Â I can't say she was a criminal, i was just STUPID!
He's not a criminal just because all these women are STUPID!
 @deee lingus Wouldn't it be nice if we lived in a society where we could actually just help people who needed it without having to worry about whether or not someone will take advantage of us? Unfortunately, as it is today, our first instinct has to be one of distrust. Most of us have learned this already. However, tt makes it harder to find people we can trust and create lasting relationships. I do not fault these women for thinking they were being helpful. For daring to believe someone needed them. For a woman, to be needed is a good thing. Yes, they were a little gullible because there are bad people out there and they forgot to remember they could be a victim. So they prefer to think the world is a better place than it is. Why does that make them stupid? Gullible or niave maybe, but not stupid I don't think.
@deee lingus YES IT IS CRIMINAL - anyone who sets out to dupe and cheat people, whatever sex, is a CRIMINAL!