Judge calls Terri Horman 'suspect,' rules civil suit can continue
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PORTLAND, Ore. – A judge in the civil case against Terri Horman, the step-mother of missing boy Kyron Horman, issued an opinion on Tuesday in which he called Terri a “prime suspect” in the boy’s disappearance.
By calling her a suspect, the judge said Terri can for now avoid a deposition in the civil case against her.
The opinion was issued as part of an ongoing civil case filed by Desiree Young, Kyron’s biological mother, accusing Terri of kidnapping Kyron and “intentionally interfering with [Young’s] parental rights.
The judge ruled the lawsuit can continue, although Terri Horman herself doesn't immediately have to answer any questions.
The civil suit and new opinion are separate from any criminal case. So far, police and prosecutors have not named a formal suspect in the two-year-old case.
"The civil case is a process that is independent of the active, ongoing criminal investigation being conducted by the Multmonah County Sheriff's Office," said sheriff's office spokesman Lt. Harry Smith.
Kyron disappeared from his Northwest Portland elementary school in June 2010. Despite a large-scale investigation, there have yet to be any criminal charges filed related to the case.
In June of this year Desiree Young filed the civil suit against Terri.
In the ruling released Tuesday, Judge Henry Kantor weighed a request from Terri’s lawyers to halt the civil case because Terri might be required to incriminate herself during a deposition or a trial. That could violate her constitutional rights.
After weighing several factors, Kantor ruled that the case should move forward, although Terri herself will not immediately be required to provide any testimony or evidence.
Young's lawyers will be allowed to dig for evidence and get depositions for anyone related to the case except Terri, Kantor ruled.
He wrote that delaying a deposition from Terri is "significantly less prejudicial to both sides."
In the meantime, he asked lawyers from both sides to consider several questions about how the delay should be handled and then report back to him.
"I think it’s just acknowledgment by the court that we shouldn’t be waiting. We need to bring him home, he’s in danger, his safety is important, we need to get the info to locate him," said Kaine Horman, Kyron's father. "I think that’s an important path forward."
 @jonsiesd2  @badcat No jonslesd2, you are wrong and need to return to your vultures nest at oregonlive under the wings of the columnist gal pal of the sheriff.  Anyone who doubts oregonlive's weirdo flock can just read the comments.  Desiree's Civil case included requirement for James' deposition.  TH knew it was coming and so did James and his real dad.  James was living with his dad and stepmom who his dad married quite a while ago and they have children.  Guess it was dangerous for that family to have poor James living with them because there are apparently engineers who are involved and are manipulating this case to protect themselves and control Terri from revealing their collusion. They suspect that James knows more than needed to put his mom away and that she would squeel on them as a card out of jail or shortened term deal.  She would not care about any possible threats to her adoptive parents.  Endangering his dad and family by his presence, James was forced into the Fort Moulton in Roseburg with those 3 prisoners... mom&pop Moulton and their adopted daughter Terri until he is escorted to military.  Interesting background of mom&pop which will come up later.
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What to do with James! Â Keep him sequestered. Â Move him out to military for further "fortage." Â Likely move him to a battlezone, any battlezone will provide resolution. Â However, must be quick because he might be squeezed for answers by his co-Troops. Â Desiree and lawyer saw the strategy and were faster and blocked the transport of James for purpose of the culprits preventing his deposition. Â Results pending. Â
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Rest assured that Madame Horman never murdered Kyron, he was what she focused on as a cash cow in a sale which saved Kaine from her further search for a hit-man. Â She is all about herself, all about getting money and fame. Â No shrinking violet, look at her success in bodybuilding contest with Emerald Cup. Read their list of annual awards and mysteriously her name has been removed. Â She goes for the gold and cares nothing about anyone except herself. Â Her hiding has endangered herself, her adoptive parents who are protecting her, her son and of course DeeDee is in the sharp field of vision of the engineers. Â DeeDee's papa seems to be in hiding too. Â Lots of people to use in leverage to control Terri and protect the pedophile ring and child pornographer who individuals are convinced bought Kyron. Â If this theory has valid aspects, it might be reason enough for Roseburg villagers to shun the Moultons and their environment. Â Some with this view would move away from that neighborhood and leave the houses around Fort Moulton empty and banded with ribbons of Danger Zone. Â
Watch what happens to poor James. Â Then keep watch on the socializing of the Moultons. Â Are they making trips back to Grass Valley, CA to visit any relatives still there for Carol LOGAN Moulton? Â Just wonderin' - might be a place they would never venture into again. Â Ah the Billion Dollar A Year Business in the USA must have lots of strategies. Â
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What a tantalizing little soap opera we have here today! I can't wait for more juicy details! Did you guys hear that the gardener is testifying on behalf of Desiree young. KGW is reporting it right now! If TH doesn't get PI custody by LE then WI the heck doesn't DY just YR and DL?
@Knud Rasmussen I watched KGW...never heard a thing. Are you sure of what you heard?
 @Bewitchin1 This is how the forum works -- one person posts something they either hallucinated, or thought it would be funny to bait people with. Next week you're going to post "I read that the landscaper was going to testify against her", and before you know it, everyone will be stating it as fact and yet another bit of "proof" that Terri ate Kyron's brains while she and DeDe danced around a bonfire. Total BS, this court of public opinion and online mob. The reason Terri stopped "cooperating"? (officially, she never stopped and it's just Desiree's opinion) -- the KATU lynch mob and MCSO. You all made her feel like she was going to burn no matter what she did or does from here, so the only intelligent thing was to hire an attorney and shut the hell up.
 @badcat Yea, like TH precious son. You know, the one that was kicked out just before Kyron came up missing? Now there is somone of intrest, that has been passed over, but I think the LE should seriously take a long hard look at. I fell TH is trying to cover for him. She knows he's the guilty one.
@badcat @Trish Ramirez Gosh Bad...are you a little shakey too these days?
Then how do you explain she's not standing up for herself and out there trying to find him...along with everyone else. Nope...she's going to burn alright. Either here...or in hell. And FYI...all of the United States is involved in this because this could have happened anywhere...and it does, everyday. And you admit it Bad....you're only stirring up crap because it's what you thrive on. Got kids?? Then you better stay away from someone like TH. No kids yet? GREAT! Stay that way because you clearly aren't parent material. Kiss TH for all of us Bad. Sounds to me like you keep in touch with her. Maybe?
 @badcat Terri lost everything because she refuses to cooperate, not because Kyron vanished. I want LE to look in every possible direction. I want that little boy brought home. But after looking in every possible direction, LE has STILL honed in on her. They know more than I do, who am I to question them?
 @badcat People like ME are why he is missing? What a joke. Like everyone else following this case, I had no input until he was long gone. I would like nothing more to see him brought home. But whomever did this also needs to be brought to justice. IMO, the person is his dearly loving stepmother, who admitted after he went missing that she hated him. Maybe I'm wrong, but I doubt it. I'm sure you would have been telling the cops to leave poor picked on Josh Powell alone, too. He would never do anything as horrible as make his wife vanish.
 @Trish Ramirez And she gave up her ENTIRE LIFE because of this. As if anyone would plan this for themselves. Sure, her motive was to disappear the kid so that her entire world would collapse, she'd lose her husband, her friends, her house, her little girl .... yeah, that makes sense. Everything has been taken from her because of what someone else did to Kyron. But that's not enough for vultures like you. You want to keep torturing and taunting her, making fun of her weight and her hair and whatever else you can think of. You're no better than a middle school bully, picking on someone because it makes you feel good about yourself. You don't give a crap about Kyron, or you'd be telling LE to look in a new direction that they haven't already run into the ground. Pathetic, you and your lynch mob.
 @Trish Ramirez You're right. She could have been in prison this whole time, like hundreds of other innocent people who got railroaded. Or murdered, like hundreds of other victims of lynch mobs like the one you're trying to lead. Stay in Utah where people are shallow and superstitious. We don't need your help here in Oregon. People like you are the reason Kyron is still missing. If not for the Terri haters, someone might have actually pursued a "real" lead and found the little guy. Admit it -- the only thing you care about is seeing Terri humiliated. Finding Kyron is incidental. You're just out for blood, not truth.
 @badcat  @Bewitchin1 Yep. Poor picked on Terri. She's had it soooo rough.  Safe and warm in her parent's house every night for the last two years.Â
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@Solipsist01Â So why do you keep reading if it makes you SOOOoooooo tired??
The public has been informed on this since day one and want to know what happened to Kyron as well. I think it is call compassion. The one or 2 people who know what happened aren't talking so of course we keep hearing about it. If this bothers you so much don't go on the comment section
This Judge needs to RECUSE himself - NOW. What a stupid thing for him to do...here's hoping Terri's attorney is on the ball and demands he do so....
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@Solipsist01 ...you are kiddng - right?....
The part I appreciate in this annoucement the very most - is this judge acknowledging (the pink elephant here) that the police have a PRIME SUSPECT.Â
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So - instead of leveraging Ms. Horman in some civil action - let's all demand our law enforcement criminally charge Ms. Horman - and get on with the criminal case. But then let's also equally question what it is our law enforcement should not also be charging any and all persons inside of that school who reasonably could have been accessories to all of this, too.Â
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What with Kyron Horman's personal possessions being left inside of his open public classroom. The recorded facts substantiating that he was present on that day at this Portland Public school. So....
 @englishdaisy "Pink elephant" refers to hallucinogenic delirium brought on by alcoholism. "The elephant/ gorilla in the room" refers to the obvious issue that everybody's politely pretending to ignore. Everybody, more or less, understands that she's the prime suspect and that the police are using every possible legal mechanism to try and bust her.
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The problem is that without a rock-solid case, a jury will likely not convict her of a capital crime and even if everybody knows she did it, she'll walk just like OJ. The mistake the LAPD made is not having all their tools sharpened before they build their case. I believe that this will eventually result in a different kind of prosecution.
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You can't just charge people for being there and expect to win. A reasonable jury has to conclude that they actually -committed- the alleged crimes, based on equally-reasonable proof.
@englishdaisy This is going back way to the start...but I wonder how extensively Kyron's pediatrician was questioned. Not that he would be iinvolved, but one of the many lies (?) TH told was that Kyron had an appointment at the clinic that day. I think his little sister did also...if you recall, she supposedly stopped at Fred Meyer's to pick up a prescription, but for whatever reason didn't do it. Did the Dr see him that day? What was the excuse if not?
She will never say a word during this trial. The judge gave her the "out" by calling her a suspect, when even the investigators have never said it (out load to the public)
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Still, none of this will keep the public from declaring her guilty, over and over again.
does bad cat know Dede Sphinchter?
 @joe bloe No, but I know badcat, so who am I in your mystery game?
 @Lips  @joe bloe If anyone wants to know, maybe they can find more about you in comments defending Terri in oregonlive comments in the vulture category.  You guyz sure are flapping your eaglewings and claws and beaks around to protect her.  Wonder what kind of payroll or "reward" is expected.  Â
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How clever and original. You get a gold star.
@badcat: Â I have been reading your comments and I must say that your are one sick puppy, with out a doubt.
 @jallard Hold that thought, jallard.  Check out oregonlive to be proven right.  There is a huge nest that looks and sounds like vultures there who freely attack the commenters who post their views that TH is guilty and they extend their claws on commenters who even suspect TH is guilty.
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You'll find the vultures scattered over other sites doing the same, even INTERNATIONAL.  How do I know?  Many of us all over the USA smelled the northwest rats first through research on the Hansen's from Redding and Hayfork, CA areas who moved around as a group to Chapel Hill, TN and then Shelbyville, TN and gained international attention because of Torry Hansen, the single, unemployed female who adopted a 7 yr old boy from Russia through a Washington State Adoption Agency, then her mom, the adoptive granny Nancy Graham Hansen carried out the mission for her daughter of airmailing him back alone because they didn't like him. Some of the Hansen group returned to Hayfork and Redding CA area and in June 2010 had filed a small claims suit against a guy who didn't complete the sale in some manner that they (Nancy and one of her daughters on the claim) had expected, for their purchase of some Video Studio or Equipment.  THAT scent trailed over to up Rte 51 and Sauvie, and Portland and Roseburg  in June 2010 when Kyron was "disappeared" and has continued since, with transfer of focus to Terri Horman and Kyron.  Russians are still angry about Torry Hansen.  No one Forgotten Nothing Forgotten.  Incidentally, Torry was court ordered to pay child support for the boy,  as reported in TN newspaper (she had to return to TN for the case) and gave the excuse for missing some Hearings because she  had given birth to a baby girl.  Guess she couldn't get another kid from Adoption Agencies because she lied to the Washington Agency by not revealing another boy age 8 or so, in her household that reporters discovered but could only learn his first name.  LOGAN.  They couldn't find who his parents were, or anything about him other than he lived in the same home environment with Torry and one or more of her two adult sisters and the Russian boy, with granny Nancy and hubby living next door.  School officials in Shelbyville, TN area said LOGAN was never enrolled in private or public school or registered for home schooling.  Wonder who has him now, if anybody.  She does have a kid like she wanted, apparently still single, but not the male child she preferred.  Now that the Pin-em State fiasco is being covered up, the same scent is strong there.  World Wide Web has a lot of meaning.
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Why isn't Kaine Horman joined with Desiree" in this civil case as Kyron's parents? Seems...odd, I guess.
 @whirledworld They haven't exactly been united. And maybe Desiree's worried about what would happen if he were named a defendant in the case with Terri still technically being his wife....
@Trish Ramirez @whirledworld  I think this might have something to do with another lawsuit that Kaine will bring against TH for her trying to get a hit out on him. If you notice, nothing has been done with that, but I'm sure it's not going away. This could be another nail that will go into TH's coffin. There might be a reason that Kaine and Desiree can't file on this together at the expense of perhaps Kaine not being able to file against TH on the other. At any rate...TH is going down...and I think it'll be soon YAY!!!!
 @Trish Ramirez "...*haven't *exactly* been *united*..."? what exactly do you mean with this?
 @whirledworld I don't whether they are speaking to one another or not, but it has really seemed that their methods of trying to bring Kyron home have been different from one another. IDK why, maybe to cover more ground or something, but they definitely haven't been doing the same things at the same time with regard to anything that's been in the media.
 @Trish Ramirez Like they are *not speaking* or something???
 @Trish Ramirez *THAT* sounds...a little weird. It just sounds *off*/"out-of-kilter" to me.
 @whirledworld They appear to have gone their separate ways with this search. Both giving separate interviews and taking separate courses of action with regard to seeing him brought home. The billboards that were put up recently were from Desiree alone as well.
Well at least Ms Horman won't have to shell out another quarter million dollars to her attorney for the civil case like she gave to the defense attorney when Kyron disappeared. We can tell by Terri's reaction to the civil case that she is freaking out. She probably thought this would all be forgotten by now. Except for those images, which she just can't get out of her mind . . .
She doesn't have to say a thing. I don't know what they expect to learn. I am sure this will drag on and on, and unfortunately we won't learn what happened to Kyron. I just don't have a lot of confidence in this civial trial.
No Teri doesn't have to say a thing, but many other people can be questioned and evidence revealed which might bring forth new info...I agree with Diseree and would try any method if it were my child. I am not sure they could keep me from physically getting it out of her
@Luckylucy But as a parent, you would want to do or try anything that may bring you one step closer to finding out where your child is and what happened to him. You would move heaven and earth. This civil suit could be the card that breaks Terri. Maybe she will finally tell what she knows. It would be worth it just to have some answers.
I believe they are allowing more rope for allowing TH to hang her self with. This case will bust open many things that are tying the hands of the judges and investigators. just let us wait and see. what comes to light. Terry does look worried now. All I Can say is Kyron better be alive or.this will lead to Terry' end of life.
 @lee986321 I think she believes she is above the law. Definite mental illness.
 @lee986321 She looks worried? When has anyone seen her recently? Or are you just making up more "evidence" of her supposed guilt?
 @badcat Even without seeing her body language, her total lack of willingness to cooperate makes her hypothetically "look" or "appear" guilty. Any adult who puts their own well-being above that of their child, even their step child, in a case like this, would appear to be guilty of someone. The fact that you would argue over semantics when their is a child missing and a woman refusing to cooperate with authorities when it comes to bringing him home makes you pretty callous as well, IMO.
 @Trish Ramirez Well, your opinion is pretty important to me so maybe I need to reconsider joining the Brute Squad. Hmm, no, I think I'll continue to point out when you people are "hypothetically" full of crap.
All you have to do is take a look at her photos from her court hearing last week. Yes...she looks worried.
 @IndependentOR  @Trish  @IndependentOR  @Dienekes4160  @jonsiesd2 She very well can refuse to speak to LE. She can sit there and plead the 5th forever and ever. And I'm sure that her 'speaking to LE with her lawyer present' consists of nothing more. She has even allowed custody of her daughter to be taken away and her divorce proceedings to be put off in order to avoid saying anything. Not the actions of a woman who cares more about her children than herself.
@Trish Ramirez @IndependentOR @Dienekes4160 @jonsiesd2 refusing what, exactly? To my knowledge, she has not refused to speak to LE (as if she could dictate that anyway). She has refused to speak to LE without her attorney present. That levels the playing field, and makes the rules the same for both sides. Knowing this, LE has not (again, afaik) requested she speak with them. These would be the same people who were in charge of the failed murder-for-hire sting. You know, the investigation that went nowhere fast after they found out that TH wouldn't help them prosecute her. In fact, TH did what any responsible citizen would have done- she called 911 to report two men trying to extort money from her on her doorstep. The fact that one of those men turned out to be from MCSO, well.... Who came off looking bad? Now, because she won't help LE or DY prosecute her for Kyron's disappearance, she narcissistic? Me, I'm just waiting patiently to see some evidence. Any evidence at all, really. Sounds like that may happen. Good. But the judge has put off compelling a deposition from TH until the evidence is presented and reviewed. Also good.
 @IndependentOR  @Dienekes4160  @jonsiesd2 Thinking with her head by refusing to help find her stepson? Pretty narcissistic head if all it worries about is itself.
At least Diseree is playing every card she can. She hasn't just holed up and forgotten Kyron. Maybe it is a waste of time and maybe not...we will see.
@Dienekes4160 @jonsiesd2 Or maybe, just maybe, she's someone who wants to see some evidence before shouting "hang 'em!" And yes, I am aware that TH hasn't talked, that she lawyered up, and that she hasn't participated. I'm also aware that all that happened AFTER the failed sting by MCSO. I wouldn't be knocking down doors to help either after that. I get that a little boy is lost, that fact hasn't escaped me. but in a world where everyone seem to be thinking with their hearts, TH is using her head. that doesn't make her na murderer in my book. Evidence will do that, providing that we see some in this case- or a crimiNal case. if you think that reserving my judgement until that happens makes me a TH supporter, then you're entitled to your wrong opinion. I really don't understand the personal attacks on those who continue to point out that, as yet, we have seen no evidence.
 @jonsiesd2 Check out this badcat quote: "You've been posting that crap for 2 years. [who remembers stuff like that?] No, she doesn't feel the shackles, or the noose, or whatever else your pitchfork gang is threatening her with. [who knows what TH actually feels?] Keep festering your hate and anger, witchy, it will only feed your own cancer cells." [well, whoever it is obviously vicious, angry, psychotic-sounding, insulting, and obsessed enough about this topic to know who's been posting what for two years.]
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 @badcat On to whom? I never claimed you were anybody. That's interesting . Maybe you just WANT people to think you're somebody. Or, not somebody.
@jonsiesd2 If you had been posting for very long, you would know that badcat is NOT TH. And on one hand, I can understand Desiree wanting to know what happened, wanting the evasive Terri to be the responsible party, wanting to get answers. Regardless the outcome of this civil case, it's likely to be a waste of time and money, and Kyron still no closer to being found.
probably TH herself. She has been known to get on here during stories involving Kyron, and make comments, just like badcat.
 @Dienekes4160 Uh oh, you're on to me!! LOL
Bad appears to be very close to Teri....I wonder the connection
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 @badcat You sound pretty venomous here. Lots of personal attacks. Hmm.Â
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Your profile shows that 95% of your posts appear to be about this issue and in all of them, you're attacking people or the justice system itself. Isn't that interesting?
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Anybody want some interesting reading? Check out badcat's comments.
 @Bewitchin1 She wasn't in court last week. See, you're hallucinating again. Check your dosage.
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 @badcat actually you are right, the attorney looks more worried actually he looks very concerned. and no matter how blank her look, if you look at the photo close you will see signs of what guilt does to a person. he eyes are very empty as well.
 @Lips  @minniemouse I have never said that Terri has no rights. What I find appalling is that so many people are more concerned with her rights than those of the ACTUAL victim in this case and his family. Terri's rights have been protected from day one. They continue to be protected today. They will continue to be protected throughout the course of Desiree's civil suit. But, FINALLY, someone is doing something with regard to KYRON'S rights.
 @Lips  @Trish Ramirez  @minniemouse The public? What about the Senate? 93% of them voted in favor of the NDAA, allowing arrest and lifetime imprisonment without even formal charges, let alone a trial.Â
That should mean 93% of the Senate would be replaced, but of course it won't.
"You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say CAN and WILL be used against you." It's very scary that you people want to take away those rights and torture your fellow American.
A fair trial yes, but not the right to remain silent when a little boy is at stake. If she is innocent she should stand up and say so and tell what she does know.
 @Lips  It terrifies me to think that some of these people could serve on a jury!!
 @Trish Ramirez  @minniemouse I don't think it has anything to do with supporting TH. Actually, I know for a fact it doesn't. It's support for ALL of us who would be executed by the public without evidence, were it not for the constitution. Like many, it was easy to point at TH and declare her guilt on the onset of this investigation, but if you've read the public opinions for the last several years, the public starts looking far more frightening than TH ever could. You start to defend the 'system'' which in turn, defends Terri's rights. Cause just like all of you, she has them. Thankfully, because I never realized until this case how stupid some of the general public can be.
 @Penny Those accusations were old and tired two years ago...
Please join us in the present, where people are innocent UNTIL proven guilty.
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 @whirledworld  @minniemouse No one is saying she's not entitled to a trial or due process. But we are also entitled to our opinions of her and Desiree is entitled to answers as they pertain to the disappearance of her child. She is getting a trial now, a civil trial. You would think people would be happy, especially those who have come out so clearly to support her rights. She will be able to tell a judge all of the reasons why she is innocent. Yay for her.
 @Trish Ramirez  @minniemouse I do think there are a lot of people here and elsewhere who are NOT supporting Terri (or condemning her), but have been mistaken for it simply because they are standing up for a fair trial and due justice according to our Constitutional Rights.
 @minniemouse I wonder that as well. All of Desiree's supporters support her as a mother doing EVERYTHING within her power to bring her child home. People's natural disinclination to trust Terri comes from the fact that she has impeded the investigation rather than assisted it. That makes you wonder what people who support Terri are thinking. People who support Desiree are thinking about Kyron...
Bad..just curious if you ever wonder or worry about Kyron and why you seem to dislike Desiree...this is all about that little boy...any feelings there?
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 @badcat You also have to review all the stories.oh and this as well http://katubim.s3.amazonaws.com/Terri%20Horman%20Lawsuit.pdf
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The ruling is a victory for Desiree Young and is expected to keep the civil lawsuit moving forward.
In a motion filed July 25 to hold the case in abatement, Terri Horman said the civil suit seeks facts that could lead to a criminal prosecution and is claiming via her attorney that her rights to self-incrimination are violated if the civil case moves forward.
 @badcat Also It looks like I was correct in assuming that if there was reasonable doubt in a post in the past, that this case would go on. and it did.
 @badcat I didn't say she killed any one You added that part, I am just stating Kyron better be alive or she will lose her life on this one. He could very well be alive and hidden. But if she Killed ( had hired some one to kill Him) then she should be given the death penalty. Were talking about a child who may pr may not have been killed. If he was and she doesn't get the death penalty and she is found guilty, YOU will be looking at one very angry state.
 @lee986321 I see the look you're describing on Desiree's face. That must make her the killer. Case closed -- I saw all the proof I need.
 @badcat nope look at her body language. it doesn't take an expert to read her photo.
@lee986321 @badcat Actually, I think she just looks like a vacant headed b*. Pretty much what she has looked like from day 1. I agree with BC though.
 @joe bloe  @anon4444 They should let her fend for herself.
@anon4444 if I were th parents, I would be scared. Scared that their entire retirement is going to be blown on the most expensive defense lawyer in Portland.
 @Dienekes4160 I am. I mean, she is. Wow, you're too smart for me. I mean them. No, I meant us. Her. No wait....
 @Bewitchin1 I am. Cahoots. Absolutely.
 @badcat Wow. Seems a little personal. Is Terri back?
 @lee986321  @badcat I have no idea whether she's guilty or innocent, but if I were in her position, either way, I'd be scared as he##.
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 @lee986321 So it's the photographer's fault she looks guilty to you? The photographer *knows* she's guilty, so he shot her from the right? You're not making any sense. This isn't a movie, jackass.
 @badcat Say what you will and or want she does look worried, just wait and I take it you haven't heard the expression, "A photo is worth a thousand Words" When a Photographer shoots a shot there is a reason why they do it and there is a reason why they chose the angles the chose. Still think I am talking out my ass, then you you don't know WALDO about Photography.. and you certainly don't know squat about how guilt effects a person.
 @lee986321 You said "Terri does look worried now" -- the word "now" implying that based on the recent story and developments, she has a certain present look. That picture is over a year old. You're just talking out your ass. "Body language"?? From a still photo?? You're amazing if you can see movement there. You must be a superhero. I sure hope you're in touch with the judge and the prosecutor -- oh wait, there is no prosecutor, I meant Desiree's revenge attorney. Yeah, call him with your insights.