Boy, 11, pleads guilty to robbery in connection with carjacking attempt
PORTLAND, Ore. – An 11-year-old Portland boy accused of trying to rob and carjack a woman at gunpoint last year pleaded guilty to a robbery charge and was sentenced to probation.
The boy also pleaded guilty to one count of harassment in juvenile court, according to Deputy Trial Court Administrator Neal Japport.
The boy and another boy, age 7, tried to rob 22-year-old Amy Garrett near a Southeast Portland church in December.
Garrett said the boys approached her and threatened to shoot her if she didn't give them her truck.
The 7-year-old told the 11-year-old to “show her your piece.” The 11-year-old then lifted his shirt and showed Garrett the gun, she said.
When Garrett refused to give the boys her truck, they demanded her wallet and phone and said they would shoot her if she didn’t give them anything.
Garrett drove away and called 911.
Police later caught up with the boys and confronted them. Officers found a loaded handgun in the pocket of the 11-year-old.
Under the boy’s plea agreement, he’s not allowed to have any weapons or ride in any cars that contain weapons. He will also have to pay a $200 fine and undergo juvenile counseling. He will be on probation until 2014.
The boy and his siblings were placed in foster care earlier this year.
So did he spend anytime in jail? We will be reading more about this kid in the future.Â
Black, White, Latino, Asian? Â Would like to know.
@Benjamin Schniffle I saw the video of the tv interview where Amy was standing talking to the reporter and the kid walked right up to her. He's a blond white kid.
@Benjamin Schniffle @Dr. Rawdog Here's dad's mug shot.  Hope that helps (since it's sooo important).
http://pdxmugshots.com/mug/joseph-daniel-charlton-4
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They committed a adult crime so therefore they should be tired as adults.Possibly put them in solitary confinement fora couple of months so they will have plenty of time to think about why they are there.
@noneofyourbizzness NO solitary just stick him in for 12 months and let him find out how being a tough guy feels like.
'Under the boyâs plea agreement, heâs not allowed to have any weapons or ride in any cars that contain weapons. He will also have to pay a $200 fine and undergo juvenile counseling. He will be on probation until 2014.
The boy and his siblings were placed in foster care earlier this year.'
At the point where there was a firearm involved, there is no way I would sign off on probation as the penalty.Â
I do get the paternal (or lack thereof) influence, and I also understand that being 11 years old there is a strong argument for the "immature decisions' defense, but 20 months probation for threatening a womans life in an attempt to carjack and rob her?
Wow... I mean just.... wow.Â
At the very least, there should be some time in-house arrest for him. I'd also suggest that the probation continues until age 16, with manditory drug testing, and some community service. Preferably at some abuse shelter.Â
Between the breeders influence and now the foster care system, I'm dubious as to this boys chances at becoming a functioning member of society. That being said, I sincerely hope that he grows up to make me eat crow on that prediction.
@MarkKpic No i'm sure he will end up a lifer.
@MarkKpic Yup. That's the ticket. Since he was eleven, it was illegal for him to possess a handgun. I'm sure he will obey the law THIS time.
@MarkKpic Well said.
It was felon dad's firearm, what happened to dad?
@Roy Johnson See Sundowner above, Dad is in jail after sons first stickup.
where are the parents.
A year of probation? really?
just like arrrrrrnad said,  he'll be back!  and soon!
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i know, i said it first! lol!
Examples of the parents and media make huge impressions on kids. They don't come up with this stuff on their own. Something is shown to them, not necessarily intentional, and they will remember it.
Beware what you do around your kids! Beware what you watch and what you say. Karma comes right back to you.
That's the punishment? He's not allowed to have weapons or be in cars that have weapons in them? And only on probation for a year? Yeah, that'll teach him!!! @@
@AmiMÂ If the woman had been a homosexual, and he used a slur when robbing her, he'd probably get 10 years.Â
@AmiMÂ
he's learning from his dad, a felon with a gun and a liar on tv interviews.
these kids got off too easily. locking them up may not be the answer,but there should be something more than simple propbation too let these 2 kids know they wont get another chance. congrats too thier potential victim!
If I would have done this when I was his age, my butt would still be hurting fifty years later from the whipping I'd have gotten from my Dad, and that would have been small potatoes compared to the one my Mother would have given me. Â On top of that, any privileges I had would be gone for a long time and I would have been grounded for, what seems forever. Â But, then, in those days it wasn't socially acceptable to be a little dick, like it is today.
@Shadow That is because you like me had parents that knew how to parent their children, with love, discipline and guidance.
I most definitely believe in giving everyone, especially children, a second chance. That being said, can we hedge out bets and have these boys neutered? Let's give them every opportunity to better themselves, but let's not let them pollute the gene pool, please.
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@feral @stephcra Actually, unlike Margaret Sanger, I don't believe that certain races and people are inherently inferior (odd how 99.9% of people who support Planned Parenthood don't realize it's genocidal beginnings). If I did I would suggest napalming the entire east side of Portland.
Rather, I would prefer that when an individual proves by their actions that their genetics should not be passed on (not exactly a coincidence that the 11 year old's father is a felon) that they are prevented from doing so.
@feral@stephcraSure, but without the racism or anti-semitism. It's based purely on actions. If a person's actions make clear that they are defective (ie, they clearly cannot function within societal boundaries) then their DNA should not continue on.
You can continue trying to hold up straw men in an ineffective effort to make my argument seem like that of some genocidal maniacs, but if you'd like to approach it as a practical matter I might take it a bit more seriously. Calling someone "Hitler" doesn't mean they are. It means the person saying it is too lazy to address the actual issue.
Just what I thought would happen to this kids. This is basically a slap on the hand. I'm sure they will go on to bigger and more serious crimes. Their juvenile records will be sealed. I vote them most likely to re-offend.
Ms Garrett did right by getting out of there. These kids probably had been playing some shoot'em up video came and would have emptied the gun at her if she tried to take it.
Here's what really pisses me off about this; minor in possession of a firearm, threatening to use it on the victim
Under the boyâs plea agreement, heâs not allowed to have any weapons or ride in any cars that contain weapons. He will also have to pay a $200 fine and undergo juvenile counseling. He will be on probation until 2014.Â
and he's only on probation until 2014? If I was Ms Garrett I would have told the court "What the Hell, so the kids now know that the court is a joke and will end up murdering someone next time."
The gun laws we have aren't being enforced and they want to make more. What a bunch of morons.
Here are 2 lads that have already passed thier initiation rites into a gang, even if they don't belong to one yet...they will very soon after this...
@flyingtime and it seems that they have their parents to thank for that.
"The boy and his siblings were placed in foster care earlier this year."
That's the best part of this entire story. Â Hopefully they can stay in foster care, as it's pretty clear they were being raised by animals and had no chance in life if left where they were.
hOW LAME CAN mEDIA GET
How lame can Media get. I remember when journalists had some integrity. Cronkite, Rather, Russert would be ashamed of such blatant sensationalism. The lead sentence says âat gun point.â In reality he showed it to her, he did not point it at her.
@Rob ScottMaybe he was standing sideways, bent over, and the barrel was pointed towards her? Â Were you there? Â I doubt it.
God if this were the old days one caning would be allowed, two, this wouldnt have happened in the first place because little twirps like this dont make it very far without a good beating.
@KATUNews Only 11?! Oh, geez!!
Lets take a lesson from Singapore and cane the little bastards.
Dan is a dirtball and his son is following in his footsteps, thus might I suggest that both be sent to Saudi Arabia.
7 were beheaded in Saudi for things like theft, robbery etc. and most were juveniles when they did the crime....
How can an 11-yr-old plead to anything? He is below the age of consent to anything! Â
@jpkÂ
Actually I think the age for forming criminal intent is 10 in Oregon... but I may be mistaken. Â It varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction though..
@StealthActivist @jpk I can't find precident, or a specific law that isn't M11 based, that specifies an age for prosecution of criminal intent. The youngest I've been able to find in OR was a M11 crime (assault I, attempted murder, aggrivated murder), and the boy was age 14.
Kip Kinkle was age 15 when he was tried and sentenced as an adult.Â
@MarkKpic @StealthActivist @jpkÂ
Kids younger than 14 can be convicted of crimes in Oregon, which means they can form criminal intent, although their cases are handled in the juvenile system. I'm familiar with a specific case where a kid committed a violent sex offense against a toddler when he was age 11, was convicted at age 12 and sentenced in juvenile court. Â The guy is in his late-30s now, so it was prior to Ballot Measure 11.. Â I interpreted jpk's question as a question about the age of criminal intent (mens rea), not the age at which a juvenile could be tried in the adult system. Â It's a really good question though..
@jpk  Perhaps we could, as some here are pushing for, put him in with hardened criminals and let him plead for his life. What else can be done? There really is no facility fit to handle an 11-year-old.Â
Do you have a solution? I certainly don't.
@Gravity Works! @jpk http://www.oregon.gov/oya/pages/facilities/maclaren.aspx
I'm certainly not advocating that he be 'put in with hardened criminals', but 20 months and a $200 fine for threatening a woman with a gun in the course of a robbery and attempted carjacking?
6 months in Maclaren (absolute minimum), with an additional 6 months in house arrest at foster home. Combined with probation until age 16, and manditory monthly drug & alcohol screening. Also, some serious community service time (100 hours at least).
I don't have a solution either, Gravity W. I am not surprised though that "children" are now able to commit these crimes and then get away with it. Probation is not an answer; doesn't have any deleterious effect on these kids. I would like to hold the parents responsible, but that is no answer either, as they are probably no better than the kid is. He had to learn it somewhere. Like you, I have no solution. It's a sign of the times though, and I am very sad that it ever came to this! There is definitely something wrong with our society here in the USA.
@jpk I do understand the conundrum to which you are refering, but I disagree with your comment;
>'Probation is not an answer; doesn't have any deleterious effect on these kids.'
Probation, especially while the minor is in the foster system, can include things like drug testing and punative acts such as weekends at Maclaren for violations. It's blatantly obvious that the incubator and sperm donar who bred this boy did little in the way of corrective behavioral modification, so it's important (and, decidedly unfortunate) that it has to start at this point with such harsh penalties, but society is running against the clock with regards to any opportunity the judicial/youth authority has to alter his current behavioral path.Â
It really no longer matters. All we can do is circle the wagons and live life the best we can, being true to our families and close friends. No one else counts! The only people that count are our families. Sorry, but true! If that's negative, so be it; but it is realistic!  Â
@jpk  True, I was using "Adam & Eve" metaphorically. Yeah, that's it! Whew. <heh heh heh>
And yet . . . . . . . if we humans began with ONE man and ONE woman, we're in a heap of trouble, genetically!
If there ever was an Adam and Eve, a lot has changed. None of us would be here today if there were two Adams or two Eves. Whatever! But human beings used to have integrity and a concern for each other, even if enemies. Nowadays, your race, gender, or religion decides who you like or dislike. The world is in deep doo-doo and there is nothing that can reverse our direction!
@jpk  There is a saying: "As do the leaders, so do the people."
Has anything, truly, changed since Adam and Eve?
Those times are gone. Anything goes now! Really! All we can do is step aside and let the next generation screw themselves and this country! And politicians are helping it along!
@jpk I cannot disagree with you on any point. The family structure that used to kerb actions like this has been destroyed. Theories as to why this is so are so all-over-the-spectrum as to cause terminal dizziness, so I won't speculate there. All I know is, my parents(!) taught me to respect myself. Too many "parents" (read "gene donors") don't have a clue what respect truly is, so they have no chance to pass on any values to their unfortunate progeny. Â
Although the kid did the deed and admitted it, he still, in my opinion, has no true notion of why what he did was so wrong. This lack of perception will be difficult to address with any chance for success. I wish the kid luck, but I have my doubts.
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Well, I think being the choir boy assigned to the Vatican would be punishment enough, not sure if he'd ever find Jesus there though.
@feral @Gravity Works! @jpk I found Jesus in a bag of chips once. Put him in a tupper-ware container with holes poked into the lid... Bastard escaped while I was sleeping.Â