College workers must report abuse under new Ore. law
SALEM, Ore. (AP) — Oregon higher education employees and coaches are joining the list of people required by law to tell authorities when they believe a child has been abused.
The mandate, partially an outgrowth of the sex-abuse scandal at Penn State University, is one of 14 new laws that hit the books in Oregon when the new year begins on Tuesday.
Teachers, health care workers, clergy, lawyers and people working in a variety of other professions already are required to tell police or the Department of Human Services when they suspect a child has been abused. Now, anyone who works for a community college, university or child-services provider will have the same requirement, whether they're the president, groundskeeper or a paid student worker.
Those covered by the mandate must report all potential child abuse regardless of whether it's related to their job.
University administrators have emailed staff with answers to frequent questions about the new responsibility, and some have planned training sessions for early next year, said Di Saunders, an Oregon University System spokeswoman.
"All of us benefit from ensuring that criminal activity, including possible child abuse and prohibited discrimination, are reported and appropriately addressed," University of Oregon president Michael Gottfredson wrote in a memo to employees.
The measure's chief proponent, Democratic Rep. Sara Gelser of Corvallis, said it's important for anyone to report potential child abuse, and to remember that they only need a suspicion — not proof — to make a report.
"Whether you're a mandatory reporter or not, kids rely on these reports," Gelser said. "If someone is worried about a child, they should pick up the phone, make the report, and know they've done the right thing."
Among the other laws taking effect next week:
— Insurance plans will be required to pay for repair of cleft lips, cleft palates and similar birth defects if the procedures are "medically necessary to restore function."
— The Oregon Department of Transportation won't have to get permission from cities before chopping down trees.
— Drunken drivers who cause fatal accidents will have to install an ignition interlock device in their vehicle for five years after their driving privileges are restored.
— Some jewelry dealers will have to keep more detailed records of people selling gold, silver, platinum or palladium in hopes of helping police nab thieves.
— School districts will be required to adopt policies designed to prevent teen dating violence.
Also Tuesday, the minimum wage will rise 15 cents to $8.95 per hour — not due to any new law but because of a 2002 ballot measure that increases the minimum wage based on inflation.
So when a professor is the perpetrator of the abuse, they will be reqired and obligated to report the educator? They do exist, you know, a little quid pro quo for a good grade.
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Problem is, those ignition interlock devices are easy to defeat. Just tape a garden hose to the mouthpiece and blow into the other end of the hose, so your breath never makes it to the interlock device. Or make your kid blow into it for you, etc. A better method would be placing a Secure Continuous Remote Alcohol Monitor (SCRAM) on the ankle of the person, so ANY alcohol in their body will be detected whether or not they decide to drive a vehicle. If they're already on supervision for a fatal DUII, they will be prohibited from any use of alcohol, and this would be a far better way to keep track of them.
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Shouldn't there just be a blanket requirement for all people who suspect a child is being abused to report it? But then again, most of these educators and coaches will have a franchise to back them up.
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Sigh...This is one of many things that would be great if it were completely stopped. Violence is downright horrible and frightening in this world.Â
On one hand, I'm encouraged that there are laws in place requiring people to report suspected abuse.
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...on the other hand, I'm saddened that there have to be laws in place requiring people to report suspected abuse.Â
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BTW... 'â School districts will be required to adopt policies designed to prevent teen dating violence.'
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... How, exactly, are 'school districts' going to 'adopt policies designed to prevent teen dating violence'?
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Have them check in with faculty after dates to verify that no violence occurred?Â
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I'm not attempting to minimize or trivialize the issue of teen on teen dating violence, but how exactly does one go about 'adopting policies designed to prevent teen violence'? Given the laws governing student privacy, outside of a conviction for assault or sexual abuse...and even then, there are limits as to what schools can report to fellow students.Â
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"Suzie, we understand that you've been asked out by Johnnie. By state and federal law, we cannot tell you why, but we would suggest strongly that you don't go anywhere alone with him for your own saftey."
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I suppose the other option is to have yet another prerequisite class for students. Roll video with dramatic music and base/baritone voice over... "So, you've been asked out on a date. How do you know when that date has become abusive, and what should you do if it does?.... *dum-dum-dum* The hazards of dating."
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Meanwhile, 90% of the students snicker uncomfortably and chat (or tweet, or facebook) on their cell phones while the teacher grades papers.Â
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 @MarkKpic Mike McQueary walked in on a child being raped, didn't report it to the authorities, claimed he didn't know he should have, and isn't being charged with a crime. He should be rotting in jail. With this new law, someone like him would be. A lot of people are selfish cowardly a$$holes and they need laws like this to make them do the right thing, or at least think about the personal legal consequences if they don't. This is a very good law, and it's a shame that it's so very necessary in our society.
 @badcat >'This is a very good law, and it's a shame that it's so very necessary in our society.'
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"Meanwhile, 90% of the students snicker uncomfortably and chat (or tweet, or facebook) on their cell phones while the teacher grades papers."
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All too true, it shows the parents failed with their kids in teaching them respect. The cell phones should not be allowed in the classrooms. Kids for years got through school without them.
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 @Just Lookin >'The cell phones should not be allowed in the classrooms.'
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Couldn't agree more. Fact is, that many teachers have rules that forbid their use during class time.... which, as we all know, means that they're never used during class time. I've often wondered why there isn't a microwave scrambler on the roof at all high schools that is activated during class hours.Â
 @MarkKpic It would be my guess that they'll have some educational items on it, the same way they do with things like drugs, cigarettes, and alcohol. There are videos that can be shown, guest speakers that can be brought in, etc.
 @Jenni S. I get that. It's just another in the ever lengthening list of things that the public schools system is being mandated to do that should be done at home. Self respect and dating should not be mutually exclusive concepts.Â
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I, for one, pity the poor SOB who lays a hand on my daughter. She can come visit me in jail after dropping off flowers at his tombstone.Â
 @whirledworld  @Jenni S. True. As I said, it's not that I don't get the 'need' for such cirriculum, it's just that it's demonstrative of a pretty sad state of affairs when it's required by law that a teacher provide it to students. When we have fallen so far as a society that our children have to be educated in school that it's not okay for someone to hit, manipulate or berate them.Â
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Self esteem and self respect should be (IMHO) two of the cornerstones of what children are taught from birth. With those two elements in place, 'date' assaults would cease to be a problem. Those two foundations would also lead to an elimination of teacher on student "relationships". Furthermore, if we were to teach respect for others, bullying would cease to be a problem.
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But, that's pollyana idealism. We don't live in that world. You are correct when you say that such behaviors are learned. Big bullies and abusers breed little bullies and abusers.Â
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Again, I do get where the 'need' is coming from. It's just that I have sincere doubts as to the effectiveness of any such cirriculum in a school setting. More than likely, it will end up being no different than the 'DARE' or other such programs. It will become background noise in the chaos of teens school lives.Â
 @MarkKpic  @Jenni S. and yet Oregon has had a high rate of date violence for teens, so it's better someone intervenes, if even the school, so these teens don't grow up to make more domestic-violence-households with more battering and child abuse happening. Most teen dating violence comes from teens growing up in the midst of domestic violence and child abuse to begin with. One can't throw enough intervention at this to begin with the way things are right now. This violence has it's beginnings in middle school. Bullying violence  is one other aspect of the missing  mutuality, respect, and self-respect that has gone away and off the rails in young people these days. Time for a turn-around.
Here's a "Subtle" idea....... How about after killing someone subequently from Drunk Driving.. THEY NEVER DRIVE AGAIN.... PERIOD!.....
Here's a "Subtle" idea... How about after killing someone behind the whell as a result of Drunk Driving.... They NÂ EÂ VÂ EÂ RÂ Â Â dfrive again........ PERIOD!........
 @PDXtasy68 I don't think you should "dfrive" either. Drain bamage?
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does this apply to the S&M industry?
Making it a law doesn't mean it will happen. Â Besides, Â many times abuse is reported when it didn't actually happen. Â A kid doesn't get his way at home or school and claims abuse by his teachers, father, etc. Â Even after the truth is out and the accused is exonerated, their life will change forever. Â So, if someone falsely accuses another person of this type of crime, the accuser should serve serious prison time.
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"... many times abuse is reported when it didn't actually happen. Â A kid doesn't get his way at home or school and claims abuse by his teachers, father, etc."Â
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Actually very few times does a kid make up false allegations. But even if they are suspected of fabricating their story, it should be reported to the police. The police are specifically trained to deal with investigations like these, but teachers, coaches, and clergy are not. In my career, I investigated a couple of reports of child sex abuse which were obviously fake. Both of these cases were child-custody battles gone bad, and the child had been coached by a parent to lie.. Anyway, children just aren't that sophisticated and their made-up stories fall apart quickly during a normal interview. So people should have no reservations about reporting abuse claims to the police.
 @boomer You've missed the point entirely. This isn't about false allegations, this about mandatory reporting. There may be a perfectly good explanation for why the child has bruises on his back, but if the school janitor sees that, he must report it, and it must be investigated. What's wrong with you that you would twist something designed to help victimized children who can't advocate for themselves, into some convoluted scenario where angry kids are cooking up bizarre stories?!? This is the EXACT OPPOSITE of your moronic counter-argument, and the two have nothing to do with each other.
 @boomer No, boomer,  that is false info you have been given. The truth  is quite the opposite: most of the time abuse, sexual abuse date-rape, etc. are never reported to anyone other than a hotline, a rape-crisis center,  or when a kid has begun self-harm, gone anorexic, killed themselves, begun doing heavy drinking and/or drugs, etc. and then a doctor or counselor *might* find out...or the teen's friend(s) finally tell a a responsible and trustworthy adult.
 @boomer You can indeed get into serious trouble for falsely reporting, but you usually have to have evidence that they knew it wasn't true and reported it anyway. Not sure what they do to kids that pull something like that. Maybe they need to do some community service or something since jail is probably not the best solution there.
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local/county/state govts exclude themselves from having to obey the laws we citizens have to...... nice.
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Seems to me a drunk driver takes the life of someone else, I think they shouldn't be driving for five years.
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 @kramr Good point on the drunk driver comment. If your actions result in the death of another or others I would suggest that you no longer have driving privileges, period. Driving is not a right, it's a privilege. You break the laws, you lose that privilege.
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The laws on the books today are too lax for drunk drivers who stupidly get behind the wheel and maim or kill others.
 @kramr If you kill someone because you're drinking, it's typically quite some time before you get your license back (not to mention any associated jail/prison time). After that time passes - and *if* you get your license back - you'd have to use the ignition device for five years. Not everyone gets their driving privileges back.
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As to the tree thing, not sure why DOT is getting the exemption from getting permission. Maybe it's because they already work with the cities regarding the work they are doing and get their buy-in, so it's an unneeded step?
 @kramr I think someone who kills another person while driving drunk should be charged with murder and incarcerated for life. If they've caused more than one death, they should receive the death penalty. Our current laws don't punish drunk or otherwise impaired drivers enough.
 @AmiM  @kramr First of all if they if they killed somone while driving drunk they should spend 20 to thirty years in jail.  Then not be allowed to drive when they get out.
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What is this? Â Someone can kill someone while driving drunk and be released, not pay for their crime, and only have to have a ignition interlock device.
Thank God I'm none of the above.
As the antigun teachers are saying, we are just teachers.
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Ralph- Your comments used to show you had a bit of intelligence. It looks like you are losing it old man and have nothing better to do than troll here. I would rather go out protecting my students than carry a gun in a classroom. Â Carrying guns in a classroom is the wrong image of a good teacher. Â It also doesn't mean you will ever need it or use it properly.
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You insult me when you don't like the message. Yup, you are a class act all the way.
And who do you report it to? and who is responsible for following up on these reports? DHS is so under staffed now they say they can't take care of the case load now. I don't see what good this will do. Yes report it but is anything going to be done about it.
 @Pvpbw I'm sure if you googled "child abuse report hotline" the answer would magically appear. Mandated reporters are trained to know exactly how to report, and Child Services is required to investigate every report.
 @Pvpbw Better to report it than to ignore it. Call the cops. Call DHS. Call everyone. Save the kid!!
 @Pvpbw You'd report it to the same place that everyone reports to (I'm assuming DHS? I've never had to report anyone before). I do know that they take reports seriously from mandatory reporters and do check in fairly quickly. I had a neighbor who worked in an elementary school who had to report on another neighbor because it sounded like something was going on. DHS was out pretty quickly to check everything out.
yeah like the current law worked so well to prevent abuse!!!
 @LostSoul What are you talking about? This is to expand mandatory reporting so more people know they have a professional, as well as civic, responsibility to intervene. What current law are you saying doesn't work??
@badcat DHS has a reputation of NOT reporting suspected abuse and/or following up on it. Look at the Ward Weaver case. All Im saying is that laws dont always help. Its a great idea and Im all for laws that help protect the innocent, but some just dont work well.
 @LostSoul  @badcat You can't ignore abuse because you think it *might* not get investigated, fer cryin' out loud! You call the DHS hotline, you call the cops, you call the school counselors, you call everyone and anyone you can think of and do it as many times as it takes to help save that kid or kids from more torment!! Too many people "don't want to get involved" so it is really amoral and irresponsible, but the law now forces them to get involved or be legally penalized for not reporting...and they should be  legally penalized if they turn their heads pathetically the other way because they "don't want to get involved".Â
 @LostSoul  @badcat failure of such laws are not the fault of the laws but the failure of individuals in the office to do anything about it...And they act on misinformation that causes harm to families.
 @LostSoul  @badcat I am all for it, And I am all for those that falsify police statements regarding child abuse abuse should get fined , pay restitution to family effected and serve 90 days jail time. Sounds fair to me since falsely accusing some one can result in serious damages ie psychological, emotional and mental to the family