DOE greenlights floating wind power project near Coos Bay
COOS BAY, Ore. (AP) - The Department of Energy has awarded $4 million to a Seattle company for a wind power demonstration project off Coos Bay.
The World reports Principle Power plans to install wind turbines on five floating foundations 15 miles offshore.
The grant was one of seven announced this week by the department to promote an offshore wind industry.
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By the way, for personal power check out the PacWind type of vertical-access turbines Jay Leno uses to power the garage for his car collection. You could put one of these on an unused chimney or a windmill base,.
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Google PacWind, but, there are lots of examples and you might even be able to build one yourself.
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Japan's FiT in July is among the highest in the world. It's clear that Japan's FiT will shake the renewable energy market. New solutions will be showed in Japan. This is it! Floating Wind Turbine is one of the best solutions for USA and UK. U.K has more install places around its shores than any other in the world. USA has Atlantic Coast. As you know, they have to reduce Vibration to install Floating Wind Turbines on the sea. Because, it makes many kinds of problems! Vibrationâs caused by wind, waves and external forces. New Floating Body Stabilizer for Floating Wind Turbines has been created in South Korea. The Floating Body Stabilizers generate drag force immediately when Floating Wind Turbines are being rolled and pitched on the water. Recently, this Floating Body Stabilizers have been used to reduce vibration of Floating Solar Panels in South Korea. You can see New Floating Body Stabilizer videos in YouTube. http://youtu.be/O2oys_YHhCc, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA_xFp5ktbU&feature=youtu.be.
I hope this project goes according to plan and produces the power we need. In a couple hundred years, there will be no oil, coal or uranium, but we will still need electricity. There will probably be missteps along the way, but it's a journey we need to start on now. I'm interested in wave power, too. There is a lot of energy going to waste there that could be lighting up our homes and factories.
 @OCJohn In a couple of hundred years we'll be getting uranium from another planet, and who knows what they'll find for energy sources?
 @deejm2112  @OCJohn Which planet, and how?
One small step towards getting out of the oil corruption business
@LostSoul  Ya, and move into the alternative power corruption business.......
 @kramr TURBINES, NOT TURBANS!    (Wow... I should turn that into a T-shirt.)
@kramr at least that won't be destroying the planet or our health.
Bon voyage!
Investing resources, including money in finding and perfecting viable methods of alternative energy is a good thing in my opinion. Maybe not everything works out great the first time, you go back to the drawing board and see what can be done differently. I'm pretty certain that Henry Ford had a few kinks early on with the Model T before it became such the success that it was.
More bankrupt(ing) "green" energy ideas. A certain person's Insanity definition comes to mind.
 @TimBurr Diversification and redundancy of critical resources is a military strategy that dates back to at least ancient Greece.
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We are spending 800 million dollars on a Navy UAV program, we are giving Egypt F-16s and we gave them ONE THOUSAND M-1 tanks. We're spending 300 million dollars on a loading tool for the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, and God knows WHAT we spent on that even though there's nobody to use it on. We are giving away billion of dollars for military projects and stuff even the military says it doesn't want, that politicians are ramming down our throats. Like the funding to refurbish thousands of armored vehicles the Army says we don't need.
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Why is nobody complaining about that, but as soon as somebody says "green" you people have a conniption fit? Always. Every single time. What's inside the X-35? You don't know what it costs. It could be filled with solid gold and crystal meth but it doesn't seem to bother anybody.
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 @Playanekes  @TimBurr because no matter how badly you mischaracterize the F35, it still makes a lot more sense than most of the pixie dust pipe dreams of 'green' snake oil salesmen.
 @Jack_Bauer  @TimBurr Right. The uses for the F-35 are staggering and the rest of the world can't wait for us to spend our tax money developing a new fighter for them.
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Like the F-16s we gave Egypt.
 @Playanekes  @TimBurr
@TimBurr"As many as 50 Obama-backed green energy companies bankrupt or troubled"
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http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/30/as-many-as-fifty-obama-backed-green-energy-companies-bankrupt-or-troubled/
 @TimBurr  @JGalt Most normal people are obese, undereducated, and don't pay their share of taxes, and would s--t themselves to death if we ever lose the energy grid or oil supply.
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It's a bad track record but if the military took them over and put them in the Nevada test site under a black project budget, nobody would know, ask or care. Who knows how many ideas failed out there, or what they were?
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Put "green" on it, though, and ohhellno. Wind turbines, well, that's like flying biplanes.
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 @JGalt Do you have something to share or are you just popping off without contributing anything factual, Galt?Â
 @JGalt Most normal people would say that's a pretty bad track record.
That's like Donald Trump's track record on an average weekend. You have no idea how some things work, do you? I'll answer that for you. "No, JGalt, I have no clue whatsoever and enjoy hearing and reading myself."
Can't wait for the first good winter storm. the wind and swells will destroy them.
 @Beergod Why would you wish destruction on people trying to find solutions to America's energy dependence?
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Are you so wound up in your politics that you want to see America research and development fail, or are you some sort of seagull-hugger who is afraid they'll kill birds? It's one of the two.
@Playanekes because he's one of those people who believes that if it doesn't burn gallons of oil and throw tons of pollutants into e air then it's a useless "Librul" idea.
VWAT would be the best wind turbines one could use w. Way cheaper too.
 @lee986321 Lee, you should read up on the PacWind or other vertical-axis turbines. Leno uses one. They're compact and inexpensive.
Vestas can suck a fat one. Buy American(GE Wind) or buy Siemens.
The UK is finally getting it and realizing that wind turbines are a total waste of money and have stopped all future projects.
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The US will never get to that point because we don't bother to look at the total cost including all the government money that has to be borrowed from China to pay for it.
 @RalphCramden What about the total costs of Coal mining or the total costs of nuclear and their respective long term(semipermanent) damage. Or the new poster child of cheap energy,f racked Natural Gas. Face it, none of our energy is priced with total costs. Borrowing costs are at record lows, meanwhile clean-up costs continue to be understated.Â
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The bottom line is that we need energy and there is no solution without problems. But wind and solar are extremely cost ineffective. Solar panels are toxic to make and take more energy to create than they will ever produce. Wind generation uses a lot of energy to build and kills a lot of birds.
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All the examples you cited were all done with private money and lived or died with no government money. if there is a market and it is cost effective then it will be successful. If not it will die as it should.
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The electricity from solar panels costs about 12 times that of hydro, nuclear, NG and coal. In order to get that price down to reasonable levels the government has to borrow a lot of money from China to make that work.
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The Chinese are loving this trend. They not only loan the money to the US they make most of the solar panels. It's a win win for them.
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I know how much money they are throwing at the project because I have gotten a lot of it and intend to get more. I have free electricity thanks to the tax payers.
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The problem is that my kids, grandkids and great grandkids will suffer for it by having a very poor quality of life to pay off this foolish expenditure.
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Once the government subsidies run out then the wind and solar projects will stop.
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Just to give you perspective, I have wind generation, solar electric, solar hot water, hydronic heating and cooling and play with that stuff all the time. My vacation home is nothing more than a science project for me.
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My experience in this is measured in decades. Many of my solar hot water panels are left over from the Jimmy Carter era in his failed alternative energy programs. Once the federal subsidies stopped all the manufacturers went bankrupt. I got all my panels for free when people wanted them off their roofs.
 @RalphCramden  @BW The freakin' Wright Flyer and the Curtiss Jenny were extremely cost ineffective in their day too, but, we wouldn't have gotten to the P-51 Mustang without them.
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What happened to cause Americans to become so near-sighted? Do you recall the story of the IBM executive saying that the idea of a computer in every home was an absurdity? The entire right wing reminds me of this guy.Â
 @RalphCramden It's probably a bad idea to build a Columbia River hydroelectric dam across the Thames, too. I flew over Texas last month at 9,000' and was surprised to see all of the wind turbines in south Texas. Not as many as the Boardman area, but, a lot. Otherwise, except for farms, the landscape was dotted with stacks burning off fuel like giant candles. Kinda surreal at night. (Saw several hundred miles of the Mexican border fence too. Wow.)
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One point on which I emphatically agree is that we should NOT be financing this construction through China. I want solar panels on my roof and one of those cylindrical wind turbines like Leno has (COOL!) but I'm not going to go into debt for it.
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I have wind, solar electric and solar hot water. None of those are cost effective to make them competitive with coal, nuclear, NG and hydro.
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The reason I have all that is that the government (taxpayers) pay me to have them. That makes it cost effective for me but not for long term government debt.
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At least I own them and the government can't come back and tell me I have to give them up.
 @RalphCramden Not all future projects have been stopped here in the UK. In fact it's quite the bone of contention with residents who don't want their landscape ruined. Wind farms are big business.
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The UK has cancelled all future projects. They are out of money and can't afford all the subsidies to make wind power cost effective.
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Remember that you challenged my statement and all I did was give you the facts on what my assertion was based on.
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If stating facts on my position is impolite and lack or manners then I am guilty.
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If you are offended at my responses then I suggest you go down to The Thick Skin Store and get some thicker skin.
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 @RalphCramden And you, sir, seem to have an aversion to politeness and manners.
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Then don't read my posts and don't comment.
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The US debt to GDP is 103%. Debt per capita is 51,626 USD.
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The Dutch company was the one making all the wind generators for almost all of the UK. There is only one wind turbine company and it is a small startup.
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Here is the list and none are in the UK that can put up the big towers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wind_turbine_manufacturers
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You seem to have an aversion to facts.
 @RalphCramden I grow weary of this declaration of a country you don't live in. Is the US not then "out of money" if you're basing this on debt? Or how about the so-called fiscal cliff looming? That's just silly.
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I would direct you to the department of energy and climate change's website which shows the continued development on target with the proposed agenda with the current government. The article you refer to is a Dutch company pulling out, not British.
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Then it appears that the press got it wrong then since the subsidies are gone.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-18555427
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And the debt to GDP ratio at 390% is the second highest external debt in the world.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt
That is a debt of 156,126 USD per person.
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Even the Chancellor of the UK says they are out of money. He ought to know.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9107485/George-Osborne-UK-has-run-out-of-money.html
http://www.businessinsider.com/uk-chancellor-the-british-government-has-run-out-of-money-2012-2
 @RalphCramden You are mistaken. I currently live here in England and they are a)not out of money and b)have not cancelled any future projects. In fact, our government is on track to finish its projected targets regarding wind farms.