Experts may not agree, but one mom defends 'isolation booths'
»Play Video
PORTLAND, Ore. – There's not necessarily agreement among experts about using isolation rooms for children like the one in a Longview, Wash. school that has sparked controversy.
According to the Longview School District, the isolation room it uses for eight or nine special education students at Mint Valley Elementary School is therapeutic and helps calm them down.
This became an issue after one mother, whose child is not in the special education program, posted pictures of the room at the school. The outrage from many who said they believe the rooms are harmful to children was immediate.
Most of the experts KATU News spoke to Wednesday said they believe the rooms can be a valuable tool. But like any other tool, it's valuable only if you know how to use it.
Earlier this year, Oregon schools were given the option of using seclusion rooms, which some call safe rooms, but with specific restrictions.
"Seclusion can only be used if other, less invasive measures have been tried, and they have been rendered ineffective or the student continues to escalate to a point where now they become potentially harmful to themselves or others,” said Michael Mahoney with the Oregon Department of Education.
But a Salem psychologist who co-authored a book on seclusion-and-restraint issues for kids argues the rooms should go away.
"What happens with a seclusion room, it becomes a real easy place to put somebody, lock the door and walk away. And that's just the opposite of what that child is really needing," said Tim Murphy, with Bridgeway Recovery Services.
The Autism Society of Oregon thinks the rooms can be a valuable tool if used properly.
"If they're not used appropriately, they go from being helpful to being punishment and traumatizing to a child. And that's what you want to avoid," said Tobi Rates with the society.
Some moms say the rooms can be beneficial, but others disagree
When 9-year-old Adam Howard was put in a Vancouver school's isolation room earlier this year it wasn't a big surprise to the mother of this autistic child.
"They can be disruptive, but again, this is a special-needs child. It's something that kind of goes with his disorder," said Adam's mother, Heather.
But when Adam went into a room like the one at Mint Valley Elementary several times for 20-to-30 minutes at a time, Heather pulled her son out of that school.
"There needs to be a cutoff where we say, 'this is not working anymore, let's try something else,'" she said.
But another mother whose son has spent time in an isolation booth said her son is better for the experience.
Tawnya Clark said her developmentally disabled son used the isolation booth for six years. She credits the booth for helping him deal with his aggression.
"He's assaulted teachers in the past – staff, students," she said.
Clark said her son Howard's aggression was so severe she gave permission to his Vancouver school to place him inside an isolation booth like the one at Mint Valley Elementary.
But sometimes Howard made the decision himself.
"He goes into it just to be left alone because things are too noisy, too bright," Clark said.
Howard hasn't stepped inside a booth in more than a year, saying he no longer needs it. He doesn't feel he was mistreated or abused. In fact, he calls it a "safe room."
"It's not a punishment; it's just a place to go away and to avoid anger and stuff," he said.
That's why Clark not only defends the isolation booth but she challenges other parents to avoid rushing to judgment.
"If you don't have all the facts and you don't understand why and how they're used, then you need to find out," she said.
But Sara Vanzee, co-founder of the School of Autism in Northeast Portland, said she would not want her autistic child to go into one of the booths. She's also a teacher and said she wouldn't put a child in them.
She said she thinks it's too easy for teachers to send kids like her 10-year-old son, Elijah, into the isolation booth rather than take the time to acknowledge their needs and feelings.
"I think to be locked in a confined space when you're that overwhelmed is not helpful, and it's hurtful," Vanzee said.
But Clark said it's not always about the person in the booth. Sometimes it's about protecting everyone else.
"When it comes to safety, I don't want to see someone else's kid get hurt because my son can't control his aggression," she said.
Clark says her son's behavior has greatly improved in the time since he last used the booth, and he's made the honor roll twice.
The group Washington Autism Advocacy posted guidelines Wednesday on their Facebook page about seclusion rooms.
It reads, in part, "Every effort should be made to prevent the need for the use of seclusion. ... Teachers and personnel should be trained regularly on the appropriate use of effective alternatives to seclusion and restraints and every effort should be made to use positive behavioral strategies to prevent the need for the use of seclusion. Seclusion should never be used as a punishment, as a means of coercion, or retaliation, or as a convenience."
A few other districts in the Portland area use these rooms. Hillsboro schools use "specialized programs" with safe rooms.
The Reynolds School District uses safe rooms but only at a "therapeutic treatment school" called Four Corners.
Portland schools have treatment classrooms with desks bolted down but no padded booths.
The Battle Ground School District has four schools with "calming rooms" or "quiet rooms." They are all in classrooms for special education students with significant behavioral concerns.
Ok From what I understand, there was a child who was not Autistic but was a severe danger to the other kids, The one who's Child is GUILTY of assaulting another child is the one making this complaint. KATU I AM very angry at you for not covering the story. in its entirety.
I would like to applause people like Mrs Vanzee for knowing when to distinguish school's lack of knowledge about autism and the abuses that kids that have autism go through. We tend to be so empathetic towards teachers principals diagnosticians and special ed teachers for having some sense of knowledge on autism but the truth is that more often than not these educators and advocates for children tend to be the least educated and knowledgeable on how to work with kids with autism. They characterize them as behavioural problematic children instead of high functioning and able to problem solve correctly without having to show step by step how they got the correct answer. I too am a teacher with a 11 year old son that is autistic (pdd) we live in Texas my son was physicallyand mentally abused due to the lack of knowledge and willing to learn the how to use redirection techniques and others methods that work with these children when thier anxiety levels are overstimulated theie senses are peeked and they need to be acknowledge in a proper manner not just restrained by three or four staff in order to calm the child down. My child was 60 pounds and four people decided to restrain him from going outside in the hall to calm down and redirect.
I say to you does it actually take four people to hold down one child when they have been the ones to escalate the situation instead of knowing about redirection. I SAY AGAIN THIS IS AN ABUSIVE PRACTICE THAT SCHOOL STAFF TEND TO USE AS CALMING TECHNIQUES BUT SEVERLY TRAMAUTIZE THE CHILD. THE SCHOOLS THAT USE THESE ALTERNATIVES SHOULD BE PUNISHED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW AUTISTIC CHILDREN ARE HUMAN BEINGS AND HAVE RIGHTS TOO. NOT KNOWING ABOUT AUTISM IS AN IGNORANCE THAT NO CHILD SHOULD GO THROUGH AT THE HANDS OF ANY EDUCATOR THAT SHOULD BE THERE FOR THE CHILDS BEST INTEREST...........
@Robert Guajardo
So if a child any age is hitting other kids, spitting at staff, throwing over desks, swearing and throwing things (you can't keep sending them home-law wont allow that) What should an educator do? Just askin?
I'll have to post this in two pieces, as the page keeps messing up...
Â
There is a whole process they should go through. First there is testing and diagnostics that help to identify where the problems are at (do they have autism, sensory disorders, etc.). Once you know that information, you can begin working with that student. And there is a lot you can do to help them. Often times it's an issue of sensory overload where a student goes into "fight or flight" and at that point there is little that can be done outside of isolating the child from everyone else (at our school they remove all the students from the class). The child needs to learn how to identify when that overload is coming and remove themselves from that situation before the meltdown occurs. Having a safe and friendly environment for them to do that is a key part of long-term improvement and well-being. Our school has an empty room that looks like it was probably used as an office at one time. It has one window and can be used completely empty or with things like chairs, a bean bag chair, books, stuffed animals, etc. Depending on the student and their current state of mind, they may need it empty or they may want to just cuddle up on the floor with a book while they relax and get calm.Â
But this only works if students are taught how to identify what is happening and then what to do to stop the meltdown from happening. Seeing as medical insurance plans are still refusing to cover autism - they consider it an educational issue - it falls upon counselors, special ed teachers, parents, etc. all working together to help this child. If you do it right, it works *REALLY* well. Our daughter went from being out of control and missing much of the school year (either because of suspensions, in-school suspensions, being out of her class, etc,) to having only one incident this year (and that was provoked by a substitute teacher).  There is a lot that can be done if the school is willing to actually do it. And by law they're supposed to be doing just that. There is a reason why schools get more money for those students than they do for students who do not have an IEP.
Please look at Portland Public Schools, they have locked rooms. Rooms that lock and have cameras at Pioneer school. They are used with the required law mandates- but they are locked rooms!! Look at Parry center school run by PPS it has padded rooms. When you are dealing with students who are aggressive and unsafe even the law supports the use of restraint and seclusion when there are safety issues. It's either these rooms or restraining children and people can then get hurt. Or sending students home if they aren't safe. These are the kids people do not want to really know too much about.
Now if districts use collaborative problem solving and not other behavioral methods you are able to see restraint and seclusion decrease or eliminated. But many school districts including PPS do not want to use this and are using harsh level systems.
It does not surprise me that PPS lies and gives out false information.
When I first saw this, I knew immediately people would be up in arms about it. However, as the parent of a child with Asperger's (high functioning autistic disorder), I wouldn't be opposed to seeing him use something like on a limited basis. There are times when he gets beyond stressed out from over-stimulation of noise & commotion, that a quiet place like this would help him calm down. Provided it was used sparingly, only when necessary to help him calm down (and likely voluntarily on his part), and NEVER as a punishment, I'd probably sign off on it.
 @OSUx2 A room with space to move around, lay down, etc. tends to work much better for kids with Aspergers. I know that booth would completely freak my daughter out (she has Aspergers) and would also cause a sensory shock when headed back to the classroom after being denied most of the senses.
Â
The room her school uses is much better. It's an old office and it has a window. The room starts out pretty much empty, but there are items you can take in (such as books, bean bag, chair, stuffed animals, etc.). Then you can relax in a room that is calm and quiet and then be better prepared to go back to class.
True, a closet is a little small. I'm not sure my son would appreciate that - would definitely be better if it was maybe an 8x8 room or so.
they got an air hole. whats so wrong about em?
This can actually work,. It has potential.
Doesnt use evil fossil fuels and doesnt cause achne in children either.
No messy chalkboards to clean afterwards either so its a great start.
Minus the grapejelly and lunchmeat stains once in a while, this could even solve math equations.Â
Its eco friendly, quiet and requires no special paperwork thus saving natural resources like irreplaceable trees .Â
The final stamp will be a sense of relief and overwhlming aspirations to do well once freed from their quarters of ponderings. Perhaps a few mat even emerge as Einsteins helping to go on and solve world issues. Â
As quick as I am to chide K2 for miopic reporting, I congratulate them for running 'another view' on this story.Â
Â
It is easy for someone not familliar with mental & behavioral disorders to view such a resource as a draconian 'punishment'. However, if viewed in the proper context and considered not as a punative tool (or used as one), but rather as a resource for very specific instances, it can be a valuable asset to the schools.Â
Â
My thanks and admiration to K2 reporters for the follow up.Â
 @MarkKpic Actually, many of us who are up in arms about this have children with the disorders that are of the kind that are being "treated" with this padded booth. As such, we're quite familiar with these disorders and better ways that they can be handled.
Dava brought to the table a real good link in the original topic, just in case some has not had a chance to review it it is this link
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/autism-in-real-life/201201/students-traumatized-in-special-education-across-america-seclusion-r
@lee986321 I'm done posting. This is a zoo. I have learned that people look at this as a black and white thing. :(
Â
 @Dava  @lee986321 i Understand..
dont believe this is the answer. My child is autistic and the school could not control him. I couldnt control him. He would get so overwhelmed he would hit me, pull my hair and run away. I am sure there is a temptation to lock them in a room. But that is not the answer. Therapy, OT and working with the community and people that are there to help is what needs to be done. Without help I would not understand what my child really needs and locking him up was not the answer. Parents and teachers need to learn how to deal with children more effectively. If a child is that out of control they need to look at other options. the Autism school has been a blessing for my son, they know how to teach him and me how to communicate and to give him what he really need. My son now is so much happier now that we have tried other methods.
 I still stand in what I say, these need to be removed from tron the schools. They are being abused. But I do commend KATU for telling both sides of the story. But Research still stands, they are found to be ineffective and down right dangerous to the development of children And If KATU wants to do full and true story they need to gather all the data posted on the original link. I can not condone the use of such a Device.
This is why I started the petition:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/remove-and-band-use-seclusion-rooms-schools/wpHS6nLF
This is the most ridiculous thing i have ever herd!! people pull your heads out. these children should not be treated like this! they want to be accepted and loved, can you imagine how they must feel knowing that they  are different and cant control there actions? there is other options of isolating them then putting them in padded rooms! surely you can have a room where they can go were there is no other people around that is not padded (so they cannot hurt others) . So that they don't fell like caged in animals !!Â
also another thing to look at is that the schools are not equipped to deal with  children with special needs you get these teachers and aides who potentially miss treat the kids and will place them in these rooms for punishment!Â
I have a autistic child and i tell you what it is a constant fight !! Check the laws parent's of special needs children there are specific laws on these padded rooms that they will not tell you! Â
 @Sheri Murphy I am sure the kids do! thats where you guy's tell them to go!Â
@private @Sheri Murphy "another thing to look at is that the schools are not equipped to deal with children with special needs you get these teachers and aides who potentially miss treat the kids and will place them in these rooms for punishment!"
Â
Just the tip of the iceberg.
The students I work with take themselves into the rooms to calm down are never ordered to go in and the kids like having the ability to escape from the pressures of the classroom work. People who object to things like this, MUST take themselves into the classrooms that offer these "Forts" to see how they really work and why. Some students stay in the room for a couple hours, some for 10 minutes, some never go in. Autistic and Asperger students must have someplace they can escape to, I wish I could go in the rooms sometimes..quiet, safe and a way to refit their thoughts into the days activities without pressure from peers or teachers.
 @Sheri Murphy Yes, a quiet place is a great thing for them to have. A padded booth is not. They should have room to move around, lay down, sit and read a book, look out the window, etc. Many kids in those situations need to just lay flat out on the ground, close their eyes, and essentially "reconnect" with the ground. Others need to sit in a chair in a quiet room and stare out the window while their mind and body relax. And others need a space where they can walk around in more than a small circle. A padded booth doesn't give kids any of those opportunities.
Â
Our daughter utilizes a "chill zone" room at her school and it works wonders. It's anything but a padded room. If you put my child in a padded room, I can assure you we'd be in court and the money your district gets for my child would be coming to me so I could get her educated where she is not tortured in a padded booth.
 @Sheri Murphy People on here who have never worked with anyone with the issues that these children/teens do, have no idea what it is like. I worked with teenagers that had moderate to severe mental and physical disabilities as well as behavioral issues. When a simple good morning results in being attacked physically or the teenager who bites their tongue and cheek so that they bleed and then  attempt to spit it in your face.  They had talked about getting rooms like this in the residential homes that these children are residents because their own families can not handle them.Â
 @BarbWire  @Sheri Murphy Actually, as we've stated, many of us have children who have these issues, so we definitely know what it is like to work with them.
 @Sheri Murphy I like the idea of a "calming" room for those that find the stimulation of the classroom and the students to be too much to handle.
Â
What I actually object to is using this "box" like a holding cell, and having the lock on the outside. That's not a self-nurturing atmosphere. That sounds more like corporal punishment.Â
Â
Those that don't like these rooms have never had to deal with special needs kids and see the damage they can cause when they get out of control.
Â
Fighting with a kid to prevent them from hurting themselves or others can cause injuries to both the caregiver and the child. I have seen 8th grade kids who can required 5 adults to take them down and tons of sedation to get them to a manageable level.
Â
So those of you who don't deal with these kind of kids, go and spend some time in a classroom with these kids and get some education. If you are not interested in getting some first hand experience then shut up and go away. You know nothing about these situations and don't want to get some education on this issue so you have no right to comment. Unless of course you want to appear stupid. Then by all means go ahead and knock yourself out.
 @RalphCramden Couldn't agree more with you, I have worked with teens, I lasted a total of 3 months. It was in a residential setting where there were 5 clients, one morning I simply said good morning to one of the teens and was physically assaulted. Â
 @BarbWireÂ
You know. They can go of the handle at any given time for any reason or no reason.
Â
Often times we get called and have to subdue the kid and often time they get subdued with chemicals to get them under control.
Â
It can be pretty scary dealing with that level of violence.
 @Peregrine  @BarbWireÂ
There are always abused kids. It will never end.
Â
In this case a kid in the quiet room is far better then them acting out and having to be taken down by emergency services.
 @RalphCramden @BarbWire Oh, there is always a reason Ralph. It just is sometimes something we will never know with some of the really locked-in kids. Â
 @RalphCramden I understand what you are saying, How ever, there remains a few facts to be considered, have the parents used the resources given them to the best of there ability? Who is in real control the kid or the parents? and Yes I have been around Kids with Autism as well as Sensory issues. I also no that there are those that are in control that can easily manipulate a child into acting out. Now I have to ask you this point blank. Have you visited the home environment to see what goes on at home? Because unless you do not then you can not say exactly for sure way the kid is acting .
I have learned a great deal and I also have contacted a professional on the matter and I am awaiting Her call. To see what she has to say about the matter.
Â
To me, I just feel that this is regression instead of progression.
 @lee986321Â
Lee, you are out of your league. To save yourself more embarrassment I suggest that you not post more on this issue.
Â
I did this for 30 years and yes, I did see the home environment.
I know exactly what it is like. It has taken 3 to 4 people to calm my special needs child down. But NO one locked him in a room. They called me and I came, in less than 5 minutes he was telling me what was wrong and it was under control. If a child is that out of control, are the parents looking at option? Medication? Therapy? Locking up a child is not the answer. They should not be in an environment where they can hurt someone or themselves. They should be in therapy working out the issues. Any parent that would ignore this behavior should be slapped upside the head. It is frustrating to have the schools call you but these children have needs that need to addressed and putting them in a room is not addressing the issues.
 @kim k and if they refuse to take their medication.  You get it into their mouths and they spit it out then what, and how old is your child? maybe 5
 @kim kÂ
And your one situation somehow is typical of all special needs kids. And you really think that all special needs kids will respond to logic and reason?
Â
I wish it were that easy.
 @RalphCramden Well if people can't deal with a special needs child then they are in the wrong position. I know its not a walk in the park ! but it is a sore excuse on how to treat a human being! THERE IS NO EXCUSE! there are other ways then locking them in padded room's!Â
sincerely,
First hand experience!
 @private @RalphCramden Well mr first hand experience, I have also dealt with these kids. Back in the 80s I was a student aid helping out at the nearby gradeschool's DLC class. I've watched as some of these kids start repeatedly slamming thier own heads into a cement wall because they get frustrated so easily and while I agree with sentiment that these 'rooms' can be easily over-used, they can also be a lifesaver for some. While my year of experience in the 80s in junior high is dwarfed by many, I think it dwarfs your own 'first hand experience' obviously from your clueless post.
 @Peregrine  @RalphCramden  @privateÂ
I loved walking into a very difficult situation and defusing it with a cool head and calm demeanor. To me that was an accomplishment.
Â
Anyone could walk in an jump on the kid and cuff him. Not much of a skill set there.
Â
I have found that some people just don't have the skill sets to deal with special needs people. Their abrasive personality would set the kids off and it was now battle royal.
Â
I always found that I could gain their trust quickly with just a little bit of attention in a non aggressive and non threatening way and soon they would be smiling.
Â
You're right. A smile from these kids makes my day.
 @RalphCramden @privateAin't that the truth. Although, having one of those kids have a good day and smile at you for just being thier friend... that is a pretty heck of a good reward in and of itself. Â
 @Peregrine  @privateÂ
Watching these kids beat their heads against the wall is pretty scary. Or having one of these kids beating up another kid is pretty traumatic.
Â
You are correct in that these can't be used as punishment they are needed to separate kids that are amping up and protect them and the other kids if needed.
Â
Of course the other option is to just call the parents or 911 and let them deal with it.
Â
Over the years I have seen caregivers with some significant injuries from special needs kids. It is a hazardous occupation and I tip my hat to those who have to deal with it on a regular basis. They are not paid enough to do what they do.
 @private  @RalphCramden so where did you get your experience from, maybe from the Lifetime Television Network?  You want some real experience go work for The Center for Continuous Improvement, their main office is in Oregon City and they have residential homes for teens in Portland Oregon,Â
 @privateÂ
First hand experience? What is that? You had to deal with an incident at work? Or you took a class?
Â
I have dealt with these kids for over 30 years and can tell you that I have seen 8 year olds kick the butts of 5 adults. Even after heavy sedation they were a handful.
Â
Man, this really brings out the so called "experts".
That's Torture; how can someone torture their own kids? Then Justify it? Crazy World.Â
 @Harleynut1 The students don't fell these rooms are torture, instead they view them as an escape hatch, so to speak, and those I work with love them. Please get yourself educated on the uses of these rooms..it's the students choice to use the room or not. Go visit your local school who are working with Special Needs students and see how it really works. Maybe you will consider becoming a volunteer. :)
Â
Â
If a child is feeling overwhelmed, efforts should be taken to calm the sensory overload, but they should never be allowed to just run away and isolate themselves.  I feel like this breeds isolation tendencies and will make these kids who NEED to learn to be social on some level, even less social.
 @Ixyavi Believe me, they are learning to be social, they recognize they need to take a break, don't we all, and in my classrooms they do not every run away and become isolated. We are monitoring them the entire time. When they feel they can come out and not throw things, scream and yell and feel safe in returning, they just open the door and walk back into class. They are always in the classroom, but in a safe "Den" all their own.
I really wish news agencies would stop calling this a "room". It is not a room. You can call it a booth, a closet, etc., but it is far from being a "room".
Â
You want to see a real isolation room, take a look at other schools where they have a small room (could have been an office or a conference room in the past) that has room to walk around, lay down, etc. and has at least one window in it. These rooms offer a break from the sensory issues these kids are often times dealing with without having to lock them into a padded closet.
i'm an adult who went through more than a decade of special education for autism. Â i honestly do not advocate an isolation/seclusion room. Â it doesn't give kids the ability to connect to their social needs effectively, and regardless if you know what our minds are like, you could actually be doing more harm than you think. Â i rarely ever was dragged out of the classroom, but was because i was well out of hand (vulgarities, physically violent).
Â
i know there's a better method for handling autistic children, but isolation booths are not the answer. Â especially if that's all there is to it.
I still say it's not any kind of optimum solution by a long shot for a time-out of some kind, and the concept seems to be poorly used/overused/abusively used. I would rather see a kid in  a time-out room with  enough space to move about (walk, lie down, roll around stretch, etc.), natural light from windows or skylights where they can see the clouds, etc. and soft pillows around...and someone to attend to them.