Is Portland really where young people retire?

PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — Portland may not be "a city where young people go to retire," but it's the place they go to be underemployed, a new study found.
A famous quip by Fred Armisen on the television show "Portlandia" led Portland State University researchers to investigate the reality behind the comment. The quirky IFC network series pokes fun at the Oregon city's many eccentricities.
The researchers' review found that Portland is a magnet for the young and college educated from across the country, even though a disproportionate share of them are working part-time or holding jobs that don't require a degree.
In short, young college grads are moving here, and staying, because they like the city's amenities and culture, not because they're chasing jobs. Their participation in the labor force tracks with other cities, but they make 84 cents on the dollar when compared to the average of the 50 largest metropolitan areas, the research found.
"You put all of that together, and it suggests that young people are coming here and they're trying to make the best of it," said Greg Schrock, an assistant professor in urban studies at Portland state. "They're committed to working, they're committed to trying to make ends meet, but they're more committed to living in Portland."
Young people are drawn by a relatively low cost of living, a vibrant arts scene and a collegial, laid-back atmosphere. With abundant public transit, a vibrant bicycle culture and many walkable neighborhoods, there's no need for a car.
"I'm pretty content being able to support myself on a minimum-wage job," said Deanna Horton, 22, who graduated in May from Lewis & Clark college in Portland and is now working the front desk at a science museum. Horton doesn't have a driver's license, but she said the only time she's ever felt she needed one was when she moved across town.
A transplant from Syosset, N.Y., on Long Island, Horton said she'd love to have a more challenging and fulfilling job — but not enough to give up on a city that supports things like a neighborhood tool library, which gives residents free access to a wide variety of tools for carpentry, home improvement and gardening.
"I feel like my job prospects in other places would be really good," she said, looking over the top of her Apple computer at the popular Stumptown Coffee. "But I don't want to try."
Portland's reputation as the place young people go to retire was cemented with a sketch on "Portlandia."
The Portland State researchers studied Census data from 1980 to 2010 with a focus on young people, ages 21 to 39, with a college degree. They found that the migration of those people to Portland had already begun in 1980 and was consistent throughout the 20-year span. Portland was the only major city that never saw a lull in migration, even during recessions.
The data suggest that young people continue flocking to Portland, in good times and in bad.
And they're coming from places large and small. While young college graduates tend to move to larger metro areas, Portland had a net gain in migration from cities large and small.
The researchers found that Portland is indeed a popular place to retire. Not for young people, but for empty-nesters and retirees, whom Portland attracts and retains at a higher rate than similar cities.
But will it continue?
The researchers don't know for sure. Portland clearly has a powerful draw for the young graduates, but the cost of living that makes it possible for them to live here may not continue forever. The rental vacancy rate has plummeted, so rent is rising, and not everyone is willing to live in a place with a weak labor market.
"There's a very select group of migrants that would be able to work through those challenges financially," said Jason Jurjevich, an assistant professor of urban studies.
other cities could learn a lot from portland...but whether it's sustainable we'll just have to see. it takes a lot of mullahs to keep all those nice city amenities available. can all these service workers and other minimally paying jobs proovide a tax base that can fund the required budgets for all these projects?
With TriMet's 12 million dollar budget deficit, I'd say the answer to that question is no.
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That's Portland's "open-mindedness" for you.
After more than half a century on this planet, I've learned that most discussions such as this are full of half truths, stereotypes, and agendas. Slackers are everywhere. Ambitious people are everywhere. Nowhere has a monopoly on either.
I wonder how many of the folks here spouting great insight into the mindset of the young generation have even talked to someone under 25 in the last month?
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I have two recent high school grads who aren't anything like the slacker stereotype being portrayed as "this generation" here. Â What I'm really hearing is the classic "today's youth are so misguided, lazy, smelly, and stupid" label that every older generation paints on the younger generation. Â Just like they did to me at that age. Â
I love how like three fabulous members of the KATU community are running this comment feed. guess no one else cares.
The rural sect of the KATU community is out in full force. I guess them Ashlandians have it right. Buncha hippies.
I have to wonder. Portland is basically the total opposite of the rest of Oregon (if you ignore Eugene) but has the population to control every vote. This does not seem like a very good situation for the rest of the state. Being controlled by someone with a different outlook and totally ignorant of everything outside there "scene".
Obamabucks for everyone, courtesy of the fed.
Panhandlers,crack heads and meth dealers...
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 @I812 I sure miss the down vote button for misguided, uninformed, stereotypical comments like this.
@7Ws I felt the same way about this article and your comment.
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 @Caspertoo Most of the young people they are referring to in this article are *underemployed*...not homeless. Waitresses, clerks, bartenders, cooks, dishwashers, etc. etc. with college degrees. The tide will turn when they want to start raising families. Babies cost a lot of $ to raise for 18+ years. This has happened in other places at other times: San Fransisco, Austin, Seattle, etc.
 @whirledworld  @Caspertoo I agree.  In the not too distant future, Portland will become to expensive to live this kind of lifestyle, and then the hipsters will find a new, cheaper mecca.
I love this, "Portland may not be "a city where young people go to retire," but it's the place they go to be underemployed, a new study found."
looks like the young people moving here are none to smart, they will fit in nicely in Portland.
What a depressing thought. I was beginning to think this was the "What's in it for me?" generation but it turns out that it just might be Portland. Weird indeed.
I suppose Geography and the neighborhood feel must have something to do the feeling of kicking back and relaxing. Myself personally, I grew up in a working class home, I always thought of us as middle class, but I learned a strong work ethic, so I don't mind it if I'm actually working class, but I've always felt that it was important to work hard, keep motivating myself to reach for the next ladder rung, and not just settle for what's easy. I understand that some folks would like to coast through life. I'm not one of them. In fact, I think the "coast"ers in life are still the minority, and not the majority. I do know people that fit somewhat into the Portlandia vibe, many of them are professionals, earning good wages, and just enjoy the SE Portland (Hawthorne/Belmont) areas. I've only met a small handful of people that seem to be of the entitled professional slacker mindset.
Why would anyone want to retire in portland? Â It is the most messed up city in Oregon.
 @sortbait And what is the best city in your opinion? I am dying to know.Â
Certainly not the murder capital of Oregon!
 @MagicMoose  @sortbait This is what Forbes says, but I don't necessarily agree. I prefer Oregon, but not Portland.
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 @MagicMoose  @sortbait Vanport.
 @Festivus  @MagicMoose  @sortbait There is a nice golf course there now!
I wonder how content these young people would be if others weren't working to pay the taxes that support all the wonderful things they get for free in Portland?
What if the rest of us just worked for minimum wage? Who would pay to repair the streets, or provide public transportation, or the funds for the "tool library"?
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The new "American Dream"Â FTA: "I feel like my job prospects in other places would be really good," she said, looking over the top of her Apple computer at the popular Stumptown Coffee. "But I don't want to try."
We should all get more stresful jobs so we can pay more taxes? You sure know how to motivate people, Penguin! LOL =)
 @badcat Oh thanks so much for that twist! So let's see if I can say it a little different.
If everyone worked just enough to get by, as the people mentioned in the article do, there wouldn't be any of the services that they rely on that enables them to work so little.
Is that better, you bad bad cat? LOL
Besides, not all jobs above minimum wage are stressful. Yours and mine both have more than adequate pay for the stress level (most days)
 @Owt_Raged Excellent post which shows the downside of socialism rather than raising everyone up to a high-level human nature ensures that we all get taken down to the lowest common denominator when those who work harder figure out they are not getting any benefit from it...
 @FreedomRocks  @Owt_Raged zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Portland seems like a great place for unmotivated, ungroomed people to sit around in groups and act like they are doing something that is changing the world. People wonder what is wrong with this generation, visit the Waterfront or Pioneer Courthouse Square sometime and you'll see for yourself.
 @Troy Fawcett Totally right. They sit like gorillas in a jungle all day doing nothing. At least the gorillas are fascinating to look at and don't puke on the sidewalk.Â
 @Troy Fawcett Are you under the impression that it's ever been any different?  Maybe the folks hanging out at Haight and Ashbury changed the world, but it wasn't for an excess of effort.  Just an excess of LSD.
Yeah they are the generation that has given us the mess we are in. I can not wait to see what happens to the country now that being successfull is consider anti-American while these types celebrate the occupy redistributionm of wealth crowd, 4 more years of this mentallity is going to be quite a kick in groin!!
 @Rugrat Your definition of success revolves entirely around money.
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Don't deny it. You're a shell.
Socialists always abound when they lack the ability to avail themselves of meaningful work!
 @Festivus Hey!  Someone else here who has a memory!  What a surprise, hmmm?
 @Gravity Works!  @Festivus Well, not really.  I was six during the Summer of Love.  But I have tried to get a sense of history. Â
I don't know about coming to retire. It certainly is where two half arse comedians came to make fun of us. Lame.
 @MagicMoose "If you can't laugh at yourself, you have no decent sense of humor!"
--M. Twain
Laughing at your self and being a laughing stock are 2 different things!!!
Can you retire if you haven't worked?
 @2012 Hope and Change Why you sure can, it's called Wellfare.
 @2012 Hope and Change I'll try again . . . couldn't edit the first time (of course!).
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Oh, yeah, of course!  All you have to do is drop out of the rat-race and try an alternate life-style  -- lots of these college-educated, resourceful and intelligent kids are doing this . . . . . just as *my* generation did in the '60's, just as my parents' generation did in the '30's, just as their parents' generation did in the late 1800's.  Nothing is new under the sun.  Only the location is subject to change.
"I'm pretty content being able to support myself on a minimum-wage job," said Deanna Horton, 22, who graduated in May from Lewis & Clark college in Portland and is now working the front desk at a science museum. Horton doesn't have a driver's license, but she said the only time she's ever felt she needed one was when she moved across town.
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This so highlights exactly what is wrong with America today...you just spent $250,000 on a private college education but are content with a minimum wage job that will never allow you to even pay it back...need I say more...
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Oh ya forgot Obama does not care if you pay back those loans...
@FreedomRocks Maybe that is one reason a college education is so expensive. If the gubmint stopped giving out loans and paying for poor people to go to college then it would be much less expensive because people would have to find ways of paying for it themselves. If they couldn't pay for it then the schools would have to drop prices so regular folks could afford it or they would go out of business. On another note, having a college education and making minimum wage is pathetic and speaks volumes about the person in that sitituation.
 @FreedomRocks They care enough about those loans to call my house everyday.
 @Troy Fawcett Actually they probably hired a company to do that and it gets to keep 20% or more of what they can get out of you which is why the daily calls...
@FreedomRocks That's what happens when people don't pay the debts that they had agreed upon. I know, homebuyers weren't at fault either. Damn you, Words-and-Numbers-on-Paper, you've fooled us again!
 @FreedomRocks Ah, don't be too hard on her.  Her mommy and daddy are probably still paying for her school loans and health insurance.  She'll wisen up when she has some real bills to pay.
 @UtterReality Not so sure 22 and no drivers license smacks of lack of motivation to me...
 @FreedomRocks  @UtterReality Sounds like lack of necessity to me.