Meiser displays bizarre behavior in court
OREGON CITY, Ore. – According to jail authorities, the man investigators are now linking to two murders has already been written up twice for threatening corrections staff.
In one case it was for making a death signal, a finger across the throat, to someone who works there, and during a bizarre exchange with a judge Friday, Erik Meiser made it pretty obvious why his defense team is raising concerns about his mental state.
Within moments of his arrival in the courtroom, Meiser displayed a spectrum of expression. One moment he was jovial and laughing, staring straight at KATU's television camera. Then he was smirking again.
"I'm actually not interested in moving in forward, so you might as well go ahead and send me to the mental hospital then because until I'm not woken up at 5 o'clock in the morning every single morning, I don't want to cooperate," Meiser told the judge.
Meiser is charged with the September stabbing death of Lake Oswego's Fritz Hayes. And sources told KATU News investigators are linking him to the summer murder of Nick Fickett in Kelso.
Meiser's stepfather told KATU Friday his stepson was diagnosed with schizophrenia a long time ago and is delusional.
His mental health is a factor in Judge Eve Miller's decision to prevent him from talking with reporters as he has said he'd like to do.
He told Miller there's evidence he's delusional.
"Well tapes would show ... Look there's proof, there's factual proof, I’m not going to argue about it," he said. "As soon as I begin to wake up, somebody's there to say something, some skullduggery or project some semantics into my psyche, and I'm tired of it. And everybody knows it's happening and no one cares."
Deputies at the jail said Meiser does have one person who seems to care about him: his wife. They said she's on his visiting list and has flown up to Oregon from California to see him.
Miller said she'll take another look at his mental health evaluations and whether he should be allowed to talk to the media in December.
Just another coward who would rather spend his due time in a mental institution than a jail.Â
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There's certainly a mental issue at hand, that issue is not insainity. That issue is that this piece of human debris is unfit to exist in civillized society, and made the calculated decision to do something that would require his commitment for the rest of his natural born life into state custody. The only decision now is what department of the state will have custody. Obviously, he's pushing for the mental health ward.Â
The old "Insanity" trick.
Sounds a lot like Charlie Manson.
 "so you might as well go ahead and send me to the mental hospital" So, here we go again. So many people now are playing the nutjob card and succeding that criminals are not even trying to hide their disdain for the system. He knows peoples soft hearts(heads?) will put him in a hospital instead of the "chair".
that lawyer does not seem amused
Who cares if hes mentally ill, are you telling me that he didnt know that murdering 2 people in cold blood wasnt wrong? I am tired of seeing these cases, put the guy down. Dont make us wait 20 years for it either. You cant fix this guy, hes just not fit for society.
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This guy has already had " the bullet to his brain". Schizophrenia is an insidious disease. This fellow is out of control and clearly a danger to society and should remain locked up. But this disease is not something of his own doing. By his pattern of speech, I would guess he was an intelligent young man when he became afflicted. This is another failure of our mental health system and perhaps the restrictions placed upon it. He is sick and was allowed to continue on without medication to control the disease. These medications come with annoying side affects and users do not want to remain on them because of that. When things are stable, they want to stop taking the meds because they are "fine now". Then they disappear. Our system is not doing the right thing in monitoring them.
@Brownknight I wish more people held your opinion, most don't know anything about the variables that play into crimes of this nature - its the "kill'em all" attitude that leads us back into the dark ages. This sick man needs to be evaluted and documented to remind us of problems that arise from the governments ineffectual programs that allowed for him to be out as well as preventative measures to help people with his possible condition before they harm others or themself.
@Brownknight Well said, we deal with it in our familly and that is exactly what happens.
 @Brownknight Not all Schizophrenics are insane like this guy acts. Clearly he's just gaming the system and trying to postpone the inevitable.
Must be gratifying that you can make such a call from a newspaper article.Â
 @Brownknight so true
I wonder if he could be responsible for that unsolved machete murder that happened last year in Ashland? Sounds like this nutjob's m.o.
I've been saying this exact same thing since the day they arrested this guy.
bullets are cheap. feed him one
@LostSoul before we go killing out of fear we should figure this one out, to possibly help prevent people like him or conditions he may have from becoming larger issues of which we know little about.  This is somone to be held and studied,  he is the criminal - not us, there is much to be gained from not resorting to overly passionate non-thinking redemption.
@OliverNicholas Are you nuts too? This guy is like a Level 5 Biohazard and since we dont have any prisons built for Level 5 Biohazards, he MUST be put down for the safety of the rest of society.
@iamtroglodite Thank you, I would never force my opinion on others - only try and persuade through debate and argument, they have the freedom to choose - as you and others have already shown here. I understand my view isn't popular, I understand this well being the contrarian I've grown to be. Â
@OliverNicholas Current Idiot there....
DUDE! WTF? Don't trash the USMC! They, along with the rest of the Armed Forces are the only reason we are still here. A mans opinion on what to do with a murdering freak of nature has NOTHING to do with serving in the Marines protecting your right to have an opinion! I am exedingly proud of all my brothers and sisters who served our country!
@OliverNicholas "former Marine "--explains it all.
@OliverNicholas oh yes, study this POS.. with what funding? I dont want my tax paying moneys spent on anything for this subhuman. maybe you can pay
@iamtroglodite former Marine here.
Why, thank you for noticing! I picked that name up playing football in high school. Playing center and smashing nose guards to the ground kind of gave me the nickname. Works for me.
@iamtroglodite I like your self defeating name. It suggests the value you bring to a conversation.
So true.(I think)
Now fry him.
In this case we can get more out of him than just ending his life so promptly, I may fanitisize of his torment but that is it.  I would be as equally barbaric, if I were to resort to lowering my expectations of myself as a civilized individual and behave in a manner like this disgusting man.
We wouldn't know a damn thing about mental illness or social disorders if we "put a bullet in their head" every time they commited a crime.
@scared_citizen Your name suggests your panic. The reason he was out and about was because of what little they understand about people of his nature. I never said he wasn't a threat, I said there is much to learn from this behavior and condition.
@OliverNicholas I agree, they should disect his brain immediatly
@OliverNicholas dont sympathize for this POS, he killed people. He deserves nothing, not even the air he breathes
@LostSoul If you are looking for Sharia Law justice I suggest you look elsewhere. I believe civilisation is a real think worth defending, and when you suggest overly passionate non-thinking decisions you are barking that we stop being civilised and act in retrospect - barbarically.Â
"until I'm not woken up at 5 o'clock in the morning every single morning, I don't want to cooperate"
I agree, we should just put a bullet in his head and then he won't ever have to worry about waking up at 5am again!
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He killed a man while robbing his home..... He deserves to be executed! Insane? What exactly is sane? He ran and hid after he did it showing he knew it was wrong! He killed in order to escape showing a tendancy towards extreme violence! His behavior in jail is more proof he is aware of what is going on and is being very calculating in his actions in an attempt convince the courts that he's not competent enough to stand trial. Then there is what he told the judge. "I'm actually not interested in moving forward, so you might as well go ahead and send me to the mental hospital then because until I'm not woken up at 5 o'clock in the morning every single morning, I don't want to cooperate." He is deliberately going for an insane plea. He appears to be fully aware of what is happening and how to manipulate the course of events. He's trying to save his own hide since you can't give "criminally insane" people the death penilty.
This clown is faking
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"Writing him up" means forming a paper trail of his behavior while incarcerated. Â This then allows him to be placed in housing areas with less privileges, or to take away privileges. Â It is important to document his negative behavior. Â It can also be used to help classify him when he goes to wherever they send him, as well as in his sentencing.
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As much as I'm sure the staff would like to, they can't just go and beat him for being an a** hole. Â You can thank the aclu and Oregon liberal systems for that.
 @MMRoach "Oregon liberal systems for that"? what are you talking about? because the deputies can't beat him? that's everywhere, or are you as delusional as him?
 @djshimon  @MMRoach No it is not like this everywhere.  There are places in this country where things are still done "old school".  I'm not passing judgement just explaining who and why.  If you want to get your panties in a bunch and start calling names, well you'll go away with hurt feelings.Â
 @MMRoach And you know this because you have worked in jails in "certain parts of the country" where they have accidents, and jails in the Portland, metro area?
 @djshimon If an inmate threatens staff in certain parts of the country, they will have an "accident".  He would be messed with constantly, and be tormented.  That doesn't happen in Oregon, especially in the metro area.
 @KKStJohn You're missing the third "K" in your name.  All I was doing was explaining the process that some where questioning on here about being written up.  If that's above your comprehension skills, then thats on you.  It makes me feel good that someone like you doesn't agree or understand what I was saying.  If we were in agreement, that would speak poorly of me.
 @MMRoach "There are places in this country where things are still done "old school"." Please elaborate. How do you know this?
 He's in Clackamas county jail, they are not soft on criminals there.
 @MMRoach Roach, do us and everybody else who blog here a big favor....turn off your computer and go read your Marvel comic books.Â
 @MMRoach Negative behavior? It doesn't get much more negative than what brought him here. All this documentation will do is to help his insanity plea.
 @nostromo  @MMRoach His crimes on the outside don't dictate his classification on the inside.  Just the way it is.
Wow!  Another democrat prodigy, great job libs, way to go!  You have plenty to be proud of, go save a friggen tree.
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@HopeAndChange Dunce!
 @HopeAndChange Ronald Reagan is the president who opened to doors to all the mental hospitals. The laws were changed back then to make it nearly impossible to hold a seriously/dangerously mentally ill person in an institution. That's why we have so many dangerously mentally ill who are homeless and living on the streets.Â
@HopeAndChange Are you figgen kidding me?? What the hell are you talking about. Just another Right winger spewing complete garbage...and off topic I might add. Why is it that you Repubs/conservatives have to always bring up politics on every article that KATU posts on their website?
 @PD1202  @HopeAndChange Thank you PD1202 for putting it so well.