Man's faith tested as wife slips into silence after shooting
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SELLWOOD, Ore. – Vanessa Ogden was the manager of a popular kids clothing store at the Clackamas Town Center when a gunman opened fire in the mall that Tuesday, Dec. 11.
She was seven months pregnant at the time, and when the shooting started she herded her employees and customers at Justice for Girls into a backroom and kept them safe.
But in the weeks following the shooting, the normally bubbly person started to withdraw and she became really tired and quiet. Eventually, she wouldn't speak at all.
Initially, she and her husband, Doug, thought it was a combination of the pregnancy and maybe the trauma from the shooting. But her condition deteriorated and she wound up in the hospital before Christmas where an MRI revealed she'd had 60 to 70 mini-strokes.
She hasn't spoken since Christmas.
The unwrapped gifts in the Ogden's home say as much about the Christmas they put on hold as they do about Doug Ogden's faith.
"I do have a stack of gifts for Vanessa that I've been saving," he says.
During that tragic day the 5 foot 2 inch woman showed her feistiness.
"Even when SWAT came, she told them that she wouldn't open the door unless they showed identification," Doug says. "And the SWAT guy said, 'Well, I can't slide my badge under the door.' So she said, 'OK, I'm going to be the only one coming out but you can't come in.'"
But afterward, that feistiness would fade.
"Her speech was definitely hindered – considerably, although she was able to say one-word answers: 'Hello,' tell people 'Merry Christmas,' 'Thank you.' That kind of thing," Doug says.
Remarkably, despite her condition, Vanessa gave birth to their daughter, Georgia, on Dec. 27.
"Miracles happen all the time, and people who've seen miracles, they can't deny it, and I've already seen one miracle, and I believe another miracle is possible," Doug says.
So as Doug cares for Georgia, and their 16-month-old Carolina, he waits and hopes. And he prays as he feels his faith tested.
"There's been no greater time in my life where I've had to put my money where my mouth is. I mean, do I believe or don't I? So I do," he says.
Vanessa hasn't shown any progress in two weeks so doctors will be doing a brain biopsy to get some more answers. They can't say for certain if the shooting caused the mini-strokes, but they also haven't ruled it out.
The Ogdens' friends created a Facebook page dedicated to Vanessa and her family during this difficult time. Her husband is posting updates there.
STROKES ARE HAPPENING LEFT & RIGHT TO YOUNG PEOPLE EVERYWHERE INCLUDING MYSELF! I'VE BEEN VERY HEALTHY BUT AFTER COMMENTING ON OBAMA & LOOKING UP THE MONTAUK &, NASAÂ REAL PHOTOS & PHILADEPHELPHIA PROJECTS I HAD STROKES & I NEVER GET SICK> LOTS OF YOUNG PEOPLE ARE DYING FROM THEM & I BELIEVE ITS RELATED TO THE POISONESS CHEMTRAILS or HAARP or the GOV'T BECAUSE NOT ONLY HAVE I DONE EXTENSIVE RESEARCH ON TIME TRAVEL I SAW A BAG SQUEEZE 3 TIMES WHILE I WATCH IT 2 DAYS AFTER THE STROKE. I CALLED ON GOD & THE STOKE OR WHATEVER STOPPED BUT I KNOW THE SIGNS & SOMETHING WAS WRONG ENOUGH TO SCARE ME FOR MY LIFE EVEN NOW ...PEOPLE START RESEARCHING BECAUSE WHEREVER THESE CHEMTRAILS ARE ARE ALSO UFO'S & I SAW THEM HERE TOO WITH THE CHEMTRAIL PLANE.. It's convinient to that NASA hid the real photo's because the real ones show the MOON has a MOUNTAIN of GOLD & OLD BUILDING, FROZEN BODIES & A SPACESHIP WITH GOLD FIXTURES. THEY ALSO LEFT NOTES IT APPEARED TO BE A BAD EVENT & FIGHTING INSSUED BECAUSE SOME WERE DECAPITATATION OF HEADS & BODY PARTS & THE BUILDING WAS CRYSTAL & CAN BE SEEN IN THE DOCTORED PHOTO"S NASA DISTRIBUTED. ANOTHER WILD THING WAS THE MAIN WOMEN HAD METAL PARTS ATTACHED TO HER EYES & BRAIN AREA> THEY SPECULATED THESE WERE FRON THE 1st EARTH AGE & THEY WERE ALLUMINATI & NEPHELIMS WERE IN THE VIDEO AS BUZZ LAID DOWN CHEAP MIRRORS T TRY & SCARE THE SPIRITS & LAST BUT NOT LEAST...It was perfect they struck GOLD because later they said they found billions in gold off Sweden which is what they used to fund the MONTAUK PROJECT... In the moon shots there were are sorts of circuit boards etc that we are now using today & the ship was parked, blk with GOLD on it & their appeared to be mining going on as well as a more recent structure maybe 100 yrs old that was round almost buried wuth a HUGE SWASTIKA on it... Ya'll go find it in UTUBE, type in UFO,2013, and go from there but the pic's were BELIEVABLEÂ & it was like the astronaughts were scared & impressed to say the least!
@TEXAS This sounds plausible. I'd like to hear more.
 @TEXAS WTF?
 @TEXAS Lady, take your meds.
God knows what is wrong with Vanessa and He will fix it! I have just asked Jesus to do this in the name of His Mother, Our Lady of CzÄstochowa!
FAITH, We Cling on to when all else fails, Along With "PRAYERS" they are Coming Your Way, We Pray thru your Faith and Beautiful Vanessa's, That GODS will , Will Be Evident, and This Test of Faith will Shine Thru it all.
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 She is a Special Person to all those Lives she Protected and Saved. . . Good Bless You and Each of Your Family Members. God Hears Our Prayers.
 @Ms Freda I have asked the Easter Bunny to help. He is a member to Our Lady of CzÄstochowa and knows the big guy upstairs personally.  Trust in E.B. to put in a good word for Vanessa.
Oh my gosh, what a heart breaking story. I hope everything works out. Glad the baby is doing well.
May God bless your family in unbelievable ways.
 @Cheryl Ann Hermansen oh it appears he already did. With 60 or 70 mini strokes. Ain't JC and the gang just great .?  With all the prayers going out to one who gave her the strokes, she is bound to recover within hours. One can only wonder why she had to suffer to begin with.
Praying for you Vanessa! Be well!
Doug and Vanessa, i am rooting for you and sending good thoughts your way.
Keep your faith in Almighty God.You have a very brave lady and a beautiful family.It is a gift from God.May God bless you and your beautiful family!
Maybe the mini strokes were caused by a sudden spike in pulse and blood pressure. Hope she comes back
That is really sad! Kudos for maintaining presence of mind to protect the customers and employees and I hope she recovers soon. Stay strong Doug, your wife needs you.
Praying for the family! Good Job Anna on this story.
My thoughts ans prayers are with this family.I hope The Drs. find out what caused the several strokes that she had,and I hope she makes a full recovery! Their daughters are adorable!
Vanessa, you have many praying for you, Doug, believe in miracles, as you hold baby Georgia and Carolina, your evidence of what love and beauty bring. God Bless you all
 @Social Glimpse I agree!
Wow. I'd never heard of something like that happening. Hope she makes a full recovery.
 @Max Quinn ~  My dad had a few of those "mini-strokes", but nothing like 60-70 of them..!  I sure hope they figure out what happened - and what caused it..!  Â
Best wishes to you both and congrats on the baby! Hope they figure this out real quick and mom gets better!
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How sad :( I hope they can help her, and the family. Many prayers their way.
Praying for the family, in this story. Â What a courageous woman and her husband..Wow, what a great guy! Â
Maybe it is from an undiagnosed blood clotting problem. I sure can get the trauma of the shooting contributing to something!!
This makes me cry.Â
Doug, our prayers are always with you and your famiy. My daughter works with Vanessa and knows how excited she was about this pregnancy.
There is a list of items listed on the facebook page that the family desperately needs. This situation has been hard on them all. Please consider donating to help them. They are asking for basic items such as formula and diapers.Â
God Bless
 @Momma of 3 I can't find the Facebook page. Do you have a link? Thank you!
https://www.facebook.com/VanessaOgdenRecovery?ref=ts&fref=ts
Doug and Vanessa, my prayers to you and your children, that Vanessa will live and recover and thrive and smile and love.
This is such a sad story, prayers to you and your family as you struggle thru this horrible time. Â Hopefully the Dr's will be able to find out what is causing all of this. Â Best wishes to the whole family
Ooops...sorry...I found it the facebook page. Thanks :)
Is there a way to get a link to their facebook page?
Faith and prayers of many will be said on behalf of the Ogden family. I'm hoping the doctors will know the causes of Vanessa's mini-strokes, and be able to have a great plan of health laid out for her.Â
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Georgia is adorable - tons of dark hair, like her mommy! Your other daughter is very cute as well, Doug! They are beautiful girls!!!
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We wish you the very, very best!
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(PS - Anna - you wrote: "Vanessa gave birth to their daughter, Georgia, on Dec. 27." In the video, it said Georgia was born on December 28th.)
May God love you and keep you as we all will.
It's almost not enough to say that "you're in my prayers"....but you are, you and your precious children, and your darling wife. I just can't help but feel things will be ok....eventually....things will be ok. Keep the faith :)
That is really, really sad... and I sure wish Mrs Ogden ~ and the Ogden family ~ the very, very best..! Â Â Never give up hope; the human body is capable of very amazing things...Â
 @margay1 So sad it make you really feel for what our soldiers go through when they come back from war...I so hope she makes a full recovery.
 @FreedomRocks  @margay1 Very true but soldiers also have training. It helps. We also don't know if something medically happened that was not at all related to the stress.
Ralph, noticed you said the shooting and strokes were merely concidental. Have you actually examined Vanessa. have you reviewed her MRI's, multitude of medical tests.. Maybe you should join the team of doctors that are currently trying to figure this out. How do you know that the stress from the shooting didnt contribute to her medical problems. Or visa versa.. actually cause them? Why have the doctors said they've never in 30 plus years seen anything like this?
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I think you have it dialed. The shooting and the strokes were merely coincidental. It would have happened without the shooting and the only reason it's news is because of her proximity to the shooting.
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Pregnancy has all kinds of risks and strokes is one of those risks secondary to high blood pressure.
 @CTWU  @FreedomRocks  @margay1 I agree CTWU.. I know of two local girls (sisters) who had heart problems that showed up during pregnancy. The older girl was able to come through it with just medications, the younger sister didn't fare so well and was many weeks in Portland hospital - she needs a heart, but meanwhile they have her on a electrical set up (I'm not clear as to what this is). She has to stay close to the hospitals because of her condition. Very sad to see such young mothers have problems like this show up while pregnant.