Neighbors want city to crack down on woman's 'cat haven'
LONGVIEW, Wash. - Dozens of cats being kept behind a home is causing a stink and neighbors say the homeowner is now breaking the law.
Kathy Perket's compassion for cats has turned into a mess for neighbors and those neighbors want the city to crack down on what they say is cat care that's out of control.
Cowlitz County Animal Control officers found 34 cats in Perket's backyard enclosure. Her next door neighbor, Emilew Boe, hates the smell and the appearance.
"And now it has gotten so large, it is going to affect our – it is affecting our property values," Boe said.
"It's definitely a very serious problem that we would like to see dealt with," said Laura Roth, who lives nearby.
Perket calls her backyard her "cat haven." When she was interviewed by KATU News in August 2010, it already held 22 cats.
"It's my life's work, my life's passion. It's what I've chosen to do with the money that I have and the life that I have left. It belongs to the cats," she said at the time.
But a separate case of cat hoarding in a Longview mobile home last year convinced Longview's City Council it needed an ordinance limiting the number of pets people could keep at home.
"If we had like a kennel ordinance, we could regulate the number of cats and how they are kept to reduce the impacts to neighbors," said John Brickey, director of Longview Community Development.
The new law took effect in August. Perket's cat haven doesn't meet the new restrictions.
"Get some control over it and clean it up," said Boe. "Force her to follow the ordinance."
If Perket doesn't cooperate with the city and refuses to move the structures, she could face misdemeanor criminal charges.
City Councilor Ken Botero wouldn't comment Wednesday on the situation other than to say officials are working on it.
Perket sent KATU News the below statement Wednesday night defending the structure. She also said the cats are being well taken care of.
I built this enclosure in 2008. It was fully permitted by the city. For two years there was nothing wrong with what I was doing. People came over and looked at it. It was a nice friendly neighborhood. Then, things changed. Attitudes toward us changed. I have had many city officials come visit at my invitation and they have all said there is nothing wrong with what I have built, what I have done with what I am doing. Up to this point when they passed the ordinance, rescuers in Longview were proud of what they were doing. Now it punishes rescuers just as it punishes people who hoard, abuse and neglect animals it makes them want to hide in fear.
When I built this enclosure, I spent many thousands of dollars because I wanted to help animals.
I wanted to protect cats form neighbors and neighbors from the cats.
We have achieved that.
These cats give us joy, give us purpose.
Because of some differences of opinions between neighbors we became targets of harassment and we have lived under this harassment for two years.
It has not been fun.
The city knows and understands what is happening.
I believe the city wants to make this a fair ordinance for everyone.
Our goal is to make lives happier and safer and this ordinance does not allow for that.
We have to try to protect the animals from the very city that wants the animals rescued.
I have been speaking with the city and waiting for word back from them.
I am in a holding pattern.
Can't just pick up and move an enclosure thirty feet overnight.
I am the guinea pig and they are focusing on me when they should be focusing on people who hoard and abuse animals.
My cats are so well cared for, so fat and happy and loved.
Justopinion and honorbound we as neighbors have been waiting. As life savings are in our homes we would love to have other statical data to use with our report to legal authorities regarding animal kennels in residential neighborhood housing close to 40 cats.... Or You can make it dogs. We dont feel the animal itself matters its the fact its close to 40 animals living a matter of 8feet from you using your property. You seemed the two most bloggers ready to loose value in potential a whole neigjborhood that you dont live in, which is concerning to all of us. I hope you live in the city of Longview if not we can travel for the information. Thank You
 @honorbound Think its time to ignore Nature Advocate... just a troll trying to be entertained by acting like an idiot.  We know better!
 @justanopionion Indeed. I have a problem allowing bully's free reign. The world is full of people who need help, guidance and protection and it's our responsibility to provide it to those people. The Cat Lady is clearly trying to do a good thing, weather people agree with her logic and actions or not. I fear the moment a community allows rhetoric and trolling banter to cloud real and relevant issues.Â
@honorbound @justanopionion We have been waiting for your contact information so we can contact your neigjborhood and asked them if they would like this in their neighborhood..... Or is it you dont own property and trying to tell many others had to put up with losing money when you dont have too... Please we are waiting.... Or reach out to someonr who is not truthful as the cat lady, and help us make our point in court and liability claims.........
 @honorbound I do agree honorbound, however this person will consume you for as long as you/we decide to play along.  As much as I would like to point out the error of the thoughts here, it is futile... really... extreemly futile...  enjoy your evening!
 @honorbound You to honorbound!!!  Peace!
 @justanopionion Happy holidays and have a great night Just (-;
 @honorbound I think we shut him/her up, at least for now.  Thanks for chiming in!!!
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When you are in dire need of being corrected again, I'll try to do so in a way that even something as moronic as you will be able to comprehend it.
 @Nature Advocate  @honorbound Lmfao!
 @Nature Advocate  @justanopionion lol..hey buddy...you can correct me all day long, day in and day out but the twisted logic you do it with won't make your arguments, comments or blabber any more respectable or relevant.Â
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That's why they had to invent the word "moron" to describe people like you. Look it up.
Hate never did anybody any good. Â There sure is a lot of it in this forum by seemingly one or perhaps 2 people. Â Whom seem like possibly the same person. Â I am just disgusted that Shark and her co-hort Nature Advocate are such Nasty excuses for human beings. Â Â Emilew Boe is a likely a crotchety senior citizen with probably nothing better to do than pick on others.
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Cat lady is performing a service to her community by getting these cats off the streets where they will no longer continue to breed and perpetuate the problem. Â Leave this person alone... PLEASE!
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A BRIEF HOWL FROM THE CAT LADY'S CUB:
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Portions of the above article introducing this forum are not factual. It's never smelled, and at no time, ever, have there been 30+ cats on the property, and never will be. I could take the time to type out all of their names and descriptions, but when faced with dishonesty from multiple fronts, the actualities of the situation are best learned first hand, by a visit. Unless it's a simple journalistic error (and I intend to discover which is the case), I'm highly curious, as to 'just how'Â the Animal Control Officer arrived at the number reported above. Factually, he knows otherwise. There are a few possibilities: Blind guess, hear-say from others, and outright fabrication. Disconcerting, as, sadly, we've been exposed to some unsatisfactory handling by the local animal authorities in recent times and this smacks of more of the same. Of these possibilities, the answer will remain to be seen I suppose, and will result in whatever appropriate consequences the truth warrants, and I'll leave that portion at that.
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Of course, on some private individuals' parts, the inflation of (or speculation on) the actual number of cats here has been a consistent theme, and stands 'e pluribus unum' with a litany of exploits employed thus far against us. In my assessing, it's a glaring and intentional angle of misinformation (this is known as PROPAGANDA) deployed in multiple ways: First, in the framing of the various verbal 'rumors' spread by the 'local agitator' (kindly described for the sensitive). Second, in the polarizing, false claims the individual has set forth (on film, with sound, handily enough) before City Council, and third, as evidenced by the collection of actual, official provenance provided us by mechanism of his enlightened (a-hem) 'use' of the governmental mechanism as a hammer to promote and propagate a personal grudge and associated agenda, naturally followed by our enlightened use of the FOIA : ) All these, apparently, to nourish his aggressive/bully initiative and advantage over us,  and dim the glare from his observable shortcomings: a gleeful propensity toward obsessive, malicious retribution  (I'm calling it "revengertainment") and flagrant dishonesty, as I've interpreted it so far.
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Oh, and naturally there's so much more to the transgression history than I'll explain here. I'm sure some of us will eventually meet and converse at length, in working toward arriving at solutions. Oh, is that an allusion toward forging of building permits? Pretty serious charge. Oh wait, I thought there were no permits? I mean I think I see a weather-satchel of them on the wall with signatures from a spread of officials. But wait, there aren't any, right? Oh wait, he's got some permits? So there both 'are' AND 'aren't' permits. I'm so glad we're getting all this straightened out, with the aid of such a capable do-gooder. Want to see true foolishness and nastiness exposed? Become acquainted with the to-date complaints, the factual history, and then come count my cats. Or do I even have cats? So much fact sorting to cover LOL, and it's getting boring. Maybe he'll get personally aggressive and frontal (umm..AGAIN) for a change of flavor. And even though he has to stand on a curb to pull it off, he has much enjoyed looming over and intimidating/threatening at least one small-statured 60-something lady who disobeyed his dictated 'wishes', as well as an impaired guy with tremors and legs that don't function properly, who also crossed the grain his gleaming, divine will. Thanks neighbor! Wish us luck, folks.
@Cat Lady Thank you for making our point on this blog. You are confused. There are over 250 homes that are being impacted by your illegal activity which has caused you to have criminal and civil problems. This is to include your friend that our area was notified with her 49 cat kennel. WOW. Ready to come clean... The neighborhood is waiting....
@Shark Also cat lady if you choose to tell the truth and correct the problems when notifed by the appropriate departments we as numerous homeowners would of obtained legal documents that you were not telling the truth for our claims against you. You should have known eventually that your words to KATU were going to be used against you in regards to your kennel being illegal..... Our hope (numerous homeowners) that we can repair the damage you have done and recoop some our our lost money. Please follow the law. Thats all we ask for...... The choice is yours.....
From what I can tell, the cat lady did everything properly and with the full blessing of the city as evidenced by her getting the proper permits to do what she did. Now, years later, just because the city changed their ordinance, she is now being harrassed? Seems like BS to me...she should be grandfathered in under the old ordinance because she followed the rules when she created the space. Kusos to the cat lady for providing a safe and clean environment for these cats. The neighbors should be glad they are not running around the neighborhood crapping in their flower gardens.Â
@wondering She does not have any permits from the city. We have all pf her permits for the last two years in prepartion of court. She has an illegal structure, why do u think misd criminal charges were filed two weeks ago and why she is going to court. She has not been truthful. Please leave your contact information and we will supply all documents in regards to criminal charges. Or contact Bob who did the reporting and spoke to animal control at the interview. Some of you believe everything one person will say because they mention animals.
Sorry the permits are from the last ten years to present
@honorbound Dont stop know......this OUR neighborhood we bought propert before a confused person built a humane society in a residential neighborhood illegally. Again we would love to know your neighborhood location and we would send a person to speak to your neighborhood regarding building animal kennels on a property line devalue a entire neighborhood value. I would be curious what they would tell us. I would imagine we would have a lot in common.
@honorbound @Shark You were so pleasantly to do it earlier. Our point is to let you know she has been untruthful to this blog and to the city council and to reporters. You choose to support someone who has no proof and our attorney who has uncovered factual errors on her part. No she says she does and doesnt have cats. She had 34 cats until a month ago before animal control was kicked off her property. She is not doing anything for our community in fact she is hurting our community with property values and enviromental hazards. She built something that was illegal and was caught by her neighborhood and city government which should be apparent by her last blog. Neighbors invest their life savings in their property and want to protect it.... We will again say leave your contact information and we will supply proof of our problem or support a animal shelter in a residential neighborhood near a park and waterway system. Please... Since you are not in our area we would love to know how your neighbors feel about this happening in your neighborhood.... If you own property. Keep throwing name calling its only helping our cause with over 100 homeowners....... Agian
 @Shark You seem awefully eager to potentially slander the cat lady, asking strangers to leave their contact information so you can send them everything you think is relevant. I sure hope everything you've said is 100% truthful...given that you seem so intent on publicly damaging someone's reputation.Â
Nature Advocate, I have said my say. I wasn't brought up on a farm and I don't shoot cats (or any other creature) for FUN! I honestly feel sorry for you because you obviously are lacking in education. You know nothing of the facts. I honestly had to laugh at some of the statements you made (or should I say made up)! People like you have nothing better to do in their life than to try to get other people upset. The name for it is "trolling." Have fun with it!
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Please do the world and yourself a favor. Get more than that bible-home-schooling that has failed you.
 @Nature Advocate  @TruthSpeaker Nature Advocate wannabe....I don't normally stoop to name calling or making pronouncements...but your clearly a THUG!Â
Why don't these busy-body neighbors leave this lady alone. I would glady change neighbors with them. The only people who complain about situations like this are cat haters. No one says anything about people who have an over abundance of children, but "oh no" if someone decides to care for animals that no one else will. I would gladly take living next to these cats over the noisy, destructive, booger eating, pants pooping, vandalizing kids that live next to me on one side, and the drug dealing auto repair shop on the other side. Trust me..a little cat urine smell and meows is a heck of a lot better. If the neighbors do not like the sight of the enclosure, why don't they chip in and help build a taller fence so that no one has to look at it! Problem solved. Also, after reading so many of these posts, i really hope that Nature Advocate has gotten himself/herself sterilized because ignorance is handed down through the generations. After all, idiots are man-made creations too! This "person" obviously is just a "troll" who wants to stir things up. Bored people find strange ways to entertain themself.Â
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While it is true that overpopulation of humans is the #1 problem that we and all other species face today; this doesn't excuse all the responsible, wise, and intelligent people from cleaning-up and stopping all the ecological disasters caused by those phenomenally stupid and criminally negligent people that should have never been born in the first place.
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Cats are a man-made (through selective breeding) invasive species. And as such, cats being a product of man's intervention, are no less of a man-made environmental disaster than any oil-spill, radiation-fallout, chemical-spill, or other environmental disaster _caused_by_man_. Cats are _not_exempt_ from having to be removed from every natural environment, wherever and whenever they are found away from supervised confinement. Just as you would do all you can to remove Zebra Mussels from any waterway where they don't belong. Or Burmese Pythons and African Cichlids from every habitat where they exist in N. America today. Burmese Pythons and African Cichlids started out as pets too. Many of our destructive invasive species pests started out as PETS discarded by criminally-irresponsible humans. (Or from pets' habitats, e.g. Eurasian Watermilfoil that is annihilating native aquatic life in many regions of the USA came from people irresponsibly dumping their pet-fish aquarium water into lakes and streams.) And guess what happens to all those other non-native pets that became destructive invasive species? They are destroyed on-site by any means possible -- no questions asked -- none required.
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Cats are even worse than an oil-spill of multi-continent-sized proportions. They not only kill off rare and endangered marine-mammals along all coastlines (just as all oil-spills do) from run-off from the land carrying cats' Toxoplasma gondii parasites, they also destroy the complete food-chain in every ecosystem where cats are found today. From smallest of prey that is gutted and skinned alive for cats' tortured play-toys (not even used for food, just for senseless play), up to the top predators that are starved to death from cats destroying their ONLY food sources. (Precisely what cats caused on my own land not long ago.) They don't destroy just birds. They destroy everything that moves -- directly or indirectly. They will even destroy valuable native vegetation by destroying those animals that are required pollinators for those plants or those that act as seed dispersers for those plants (as many smaller rodent and bird species do) or those that act as pest-control for those plants. Cats can and will wipe out whole ecosystems eventually -- animal and plant.
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Cats need to be made to disappear from all non-native habitats -- PERMANENTLY. And the sooner the better. They are breeding out of control at an exponential rate. The reason for "the sooner the better" is that you can only hope you can halt the problem before it is beyond the reach of any method you eventually choose. Luckily, I caught the problem in time where I live (by humanely shooting and burying every last cat I spotted, collared or not, I have a box full of collars to prove it, totally LEGAL, believe it or not). It seems nobody else is faring as well -- their time is being wasted by cat-lovers trying to stop them from doing the right thing. Asking or listening to any deranged invasive species advocate for advice on how to clean up the ecological disaster that they created and perpetuate is about as useful as asking your local career thieves for advice and help to hide your valuables from their daily motives and activities. Ignore anything they might say and you too will solve the problem where you live. It worked 100% where I live!
 @Nature Advocate  @TruthSpeaker Nature Advocate, you are a predator and  obviously insane.  Your closed minded opinion means nothing here.  People like you shouldn't be allowed to breed, and need to be locked up for animal cruelty.  If you are killing, you are not being "Humane."  You are Sick, Sick, Sick.  In fact I will be reporting your comments to the KATU commentator.  You need to be reported to authorities.
 @Nature Advocate  @TruthSpeaker  @justanopionion  @Nature Nature you are a babbling idiot... you know nothing about me... or my values... so shut up.
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If you advocate for cats as rodent-control on farms and ranches you've already doomed them to being destroyed by drowning or shooting when it becomes a financial liability more than any asset. Ranchers and farmers worldwide are fully aware that cats' Toxoplasma gondii parasite can cause the very same birth defects (hydrocephaly and microcephaly), still-births, and miscarriages in their livestock and important wildlife as it can in pregnant women. Consequently, this is also how this cats' brain-parasite gets into your meats and onto your dinner-tables, from herbivores ingesting this cat-parasites' oocysts in the soils, transferred to the plants and grains that they eat. Not even washing your hands in bleach will destroy this parasites' oocysts if you have contracted it from your garden or yard that a cat has defecated in.
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This is why any cats are ROUTINELY destroyed around gestating livestock and wildlife management areas in the most efficient, humane, and least expensive method available. Common rural practice everywhere. The risk of financial loss from dead livestock and important native wildlife from an invasive species cat is far too great to do otherwise. This cats' parasite is now even killing off rare marine mammals along all coastal regions from run-off containing this cat-parasites' oocysts.
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The next time you bite into that whole-grain veggie-muffin or McBurger, you need to just envision biting down on a shot-dead or drowned kitten or cat. For that's precisely how that food supply got to your mouth -- whether you want to face up to it or not. It's not going to change reality no matter how much you twist your mind away from the truth of your world.
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If you want to blame someone for the drowning and shooting of cats, you need to prosecute yourself -- every time you eat.
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According to you and your demented ilk, this must be just like all those deeply disturbed serial-killers in the making that are eradicating all those other invasive-species in N. America; like Kudzu, Purple-Loosestrife, Gypsy Moths, Emerald Ash-Borers, African Cichlids, Burmese Pythons, Brown Tree Snakes, and Eurasian Watermilfoil from their lands and lakes. MANY of which are escaped pets or were released from pets' habitats (Eurasian Watermilfoil came from pet fish aquariums).
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Or how about all those sickos that run animal-shelters, they're nothing but a bunch of child-murdering pedophiles because they have to euthanize animals every day. And every farmer and rancher that has to humanely put down an animal with a gun must be molesting and murdering everything in their county. Those damned sickos! And what about all those people in stockyards murdering all those cattle every day for your McBurgers? I bet they're a hide-out for all the serial-killers that nobody can find! And all those hunters that provide food for their family by hunting, I bet they're the worst of all!
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And of course, the ABSOLUTELY WORST, MOST MENTALLY-ILL OF ALL -- all those people that are INTENTIONALLY paying others to murder all those MILLIONS of INNOCENT animals to make your cat-food for you! A bunch of demented basket cases! They're probably the MOST heinous and notorious pedophiles of all! (on this one I'd agree)
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Like your needing serious psychological help.
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There was a story about this in 2010. Kathy had brought 22 cats from her sons farm in 2008 when he moved back to town. They built the shelter for them then. Rescued Paws was going to place them in Temp foster homes until they could be adopted. But Kathy decided to keep them. So this is not really a rescue operation. I feel for her and her neighbors. Being an animal lover, I see part of her point. But seeing and smelling other pet owners leaving their crap on my yard, makes me upset.
I would just like to say "thank you" cat lady. I wish more people had such a kind heart as you. May God bless you for you generosity to his creatures.Â
 @angie There is no "his" to "his creatures". Cats are a MAN-MADE SPECIES. Done so through selective breeding. And like any other man-made animal, they are not native to ANY PLACE ON EARTH.
 @Nature Advocate  @angie Um, "Nature Advocate," I think you need to go back to school and take a basic science class.  Cats aren't "man made." Â
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Domesticated 3000 years ago means they've been genetically engineered through selective-breeding for 3000 years. Really folks, pick up something more than a bible and wiki pages to educate yourselves.
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Destroying cats is neither hating cats nor a fear of cats. Why do mentally-unbalanced and psychotic cat-advocates always presume that if someone is removing a highly destructive, deadly disease spreading, human-engineered invasive-species from the native habitat to restore it back into natural balance that they must hate that organism? Does someone who destroys Zebra Mussels, Kudzu, African Cichlids, Burmese Pythons, Brown Tree Snakes, or any of the other myriad destructive invasive-species have some personal problem with that species? (Many of which are escaped PETS that don't even spread any harmful diseases, unlike cats.) Your ignorance and blatant biases are revealed in your declaring that people who destroy cats must somehow hate or fear cats. Nothing could be further from the truth.
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It is people who let a destructive invasive-species roam free that tortures-to-death all other wildlife, wasted for their cats' play-toys, that have zero respect for life. They don't even care about their cats dying a slow torturous death from exposure, animal attacks, diseases, starvation, dehydration, becoming road-kill, environmental poisons. etc., the way that ALL stray cats suffer to death. They don't even respect their fellow human being. This speaks more than volumes about your disgusting character. People like you should be locked up in prison for life for your cruelty to all animals, cruelty to your own cats as well as all the native wildlife that you let your cats skin alive or disembowel alive. If you let cats roam free you are violating every animal-abandonment, animal-neglect, animal-endangerment, and invasive-species law in existence.
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If people do hate cats today, have LEARNED to hate cats today, you have nobody but yourself and everyone just like you to blame. YOU are the reason people are now realizing that all excess cats must be destroyed on-site and on-sight. You've done so much to make people care about cats, haven't you. If you want to do something about it, direct your sadly and sorely misplaced energies at those that are causing the problem, not at those who are actually solving it.
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THIS IS YOUR FAULT and THE FAULT OF EVERYONE JUST LIKE YOU. You have NOBODY but yourselves to blame.
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You can take that all the way to the very last shot-dead cat's grave.
 @Nature Advocate  @ResponseRed  @angie They are in the top 100-the list is alphabetized so Felis falls in at #38 right between Fallopia japonica(shrub) and Gambusia affinis(fish)
  Felis catus Linnaeus was domesticated around 3000 years ago-according to your Global Invasive Species List : http://www.issg.org/database/species/ecology.asp?si=24&fr=1&sts=&lang=ENÂ
  Although Wiki says, "the housecat was domesticated from the African wildcat, probably 9,000-10,000 years ago in the Fertile Crescent region of the Near East, coincident with the rise of agriculture and the need to protect harvests from grain-eating rodents."-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wildcat.     Bam!  don't say they don't do anything-they've been killing rodents for 10,000 years!!!
 You really hate cats.
 @ResponseRed  @angie Felis catus or Felis sylvestrus catus is very much a man-made species. They exist nowhere in nature today except for where humans have irresponsibly let them roam free. They are an invasive species. Listed as the TOP 40 WORST invasive species worldwide in the Global Invasive Species Database. Without humans selectively breeding them they would have never come into being.
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I suggest you get more than that bible-home-schooling that you've depended on all your sorry and ignorant life. It's failing you miserably.
I think that each and every neighbor on all sides of her should keep 34 fat 'n happy pet swine. Have you ever driven past a pig-farm or lived within 2 miles of one? Maybe then she'll be able to figure out why she's a self-serving and disrespectful moron that is fully deserving of all the negativity directed at her.
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There is now evidence that human minds infected with cats' Toxoplasma gondii parasite are hijacked the same way that rodents' brains are hijacked. They are actually ATTRACTED to cat urine. People similarly infected with this brain-hijacking parasite have a difficult time smelling the stench they've made all their neighbors smell. It is also linked to schizophrenia, autism, and brain-cancers. There's are valid reason now for the "crazy cat lady" syndrome. Their brains are infested with cats' parasites. And, unfortunately, there IS NO WAY TO DESTROY IT once it is in your brain. It forms permanent cysts in your mind that control your emotions and thinking for the rest of your life. Don't believe me? Google for all the studies on this. Another "fun" fact, women infected with this cats' brain-hijacking parasite are more prone to commit the most heinous acts of suicide. Google is your friend.
 @Nature Advocate It also says you can get it from improperly cooked meat(wiki).  I think cat people are a little off too, but you really hate CATS don't you. What about the play CATS-do you like that one?  Google is your friend as much as picking and choosing information is your friend too.
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 @Nature Advocate  @Ixyavi  @honorbound  @justanopionion What about Mr. Bigglesworth, Dr. Evil's cat from the âAustin Powersâ films (1997)? Shoot him too?Â
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lxyavi,
You will NOT solve this problem by being "nice" to cat-lovers nor their cats. I tried to reason with and be "nice" to local cat-lovers for FIFTEEN YEARS. During which time their invasive-species cats managed to destroy ALL the wildlife on my lands. No amount of trying to befriend them, even give them gifts, or argue with them when all else failed, would change their beliefs and behaviors. Even the sheriff telling them to do something about their cats failed. They left NO OTHER OPTIONS but to shoot every last one of their cats.The sheriff is the one who told me to finally take this action because the cat-lovers refused to do anything about the problem they created and perpetuated.
Being "nice" or "reasonable" about this problem with people as criminally-negligent, disrespectful, and phenomenally ignorant as these cat-lovers is actually what caused this invasive-species nightmare on every continent today. Nature does not survive on being "nice" like some Bambi-Cartoon. It wasn't until I STOPPED being nice to them, and giving them back the EXACT same amount of consideration and respect that they have for all others and all other animals, that means NONE, and finally did what needed to be done -- just SHOOT ALL CATS -- that the problem was finally resolved.
This isn't just an ecological disaster that we are dealing with. This is also one of a group of people who are engaged in a mass psychoses about a man-made animal species. The problem won't be solved until you dismiss every last thing that they have to say and just fix the problem in any way that you possibly can. You're not going to get one bit of helpful advice from the very people that have caused this nightmare.
You must also use a method that is faster than cats can out-breed and out-adapt to. That leaves few options. Trapping is not one of them. Guns being the most readily available and affordable solution for everyone.
An important lesson to be learned.
Lxyavi - thank you for sharing that. I completely understand. To be clear...I respect your situation and the thought and care you've put into it...you have earned your frustration so to speak and have valid reasons for it. I take issue with Nature Advo for being an outright propaganda spewing killer.Â
 @honorbound  @Nature Advocate  @justanopionion  @djshimon To be somewhat fair, if people cared about their furred family members then they wouldn't be allowed to roam outside.  I personally wouldn't kill a cat, feral or otherwise.  But I can understand the frustration of having them roam your property unchecked.  Trust me when I say that nobody will do anything about it.  Not the humane society, not rescues, and certainly not animal control.  I have a problem with feral cats (and pet cats) on my property and after trapping them no one will take them except the humane society, who promptly puts them all down anyways. Â
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I am a cat lover myself, but that extends only to cats that are properly confined to their own homes.
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justanopinion spewed: "Nature, you have 5 points which means you are not respected. Â Not a single person is trying to correct me except you and your foolish thoughts. Â Go away."
Some of us aren't on this planet to play little girls' popularity contests. Some of us have more important things to do. And while doing them we might even take the time to accomplish more than one task. Sometimes that multitasking might even embrace silly and entertaining things -- like pointing out to the whole world the utter stupidity, foolishness, and ignorance of those that live or die by little girls' popularity contests.
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ANYONE need only Google for: Loews Hotels Feral Cats, if they want to see just what kind of whack-jobs these people are. Worse than cats.
After reading what they did to the owners of Loews hotels, any sane person realizes to not bring these TNR sociopaths and psychopaths right to your door.
Here's another recent replay of the same thing that these cat-lover-sociopaths did to Loews Hotels: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stray-cats-20121026,0,6245372.story
A $150 million renovation project for low-income housing, put on hold, jobs lost, money lost, homeless still homeless court costs and lawyers, just to save a few of their feral vermin cRats. Most of which had already died from their TNR's "attrition".
This is precisely why everyone is learning to destroy all cats on their properties as quickly and quietly as possible. Telling nobody beforehand about the cats even being there. Long before these cat-lover psychotics get wind of the cats. Shoot cats first, tell no-one later. The only thing worse than feral cats, are feral cat-lovers. You can legally shoot the former, not the latter. You need to pay lawyers and courts to get rid of the latter. THEN you can get rid of their cats. And the sad part is, that's EXACTLY what happens, each and every time.
People are wising-up. If ANY cats are around they destroy every last one of them first, before they make any other move.
 @Nature Advocate  @justanopionion I doubt that...but if you wanted to provide a few names...I'm sure we could find out.
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All my neighbors profusely thanked me for finally putting an end to the cat-infestation that was being caused by fools like you.
 @Nature Advocate  @justanopionion And so it is...but you've already admitted and bragged about shooting known pets. How well received would you be in your community if you weren't cloaked in the internets' anonymity? I doubt you'd have the brick in you to stand up in a community meeting and espouse what you have here.Â
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Idiots like you need to be reminded, shooting stray dogs is perfectly legal. Shooting humans is not.
 @Nature Advocate  @justanopionion If one of my friends and working farm dogs came home with a paintball stain on his coat...you'd need your rifle.Â
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Here's my standard issue prepared reply for bible-home-schooled people like you:
 Homo sapiens is NOT an invasive species ANYWHERE, you freakishly stupid moron. Since humans have the genetic code to give them the capability to travel/migrate to ANY part of the globe, this means they are native to any area that they have traveled to on their own. Just like birds that have this capability and can travel to different continents and islands. Those that have the flight-range required to do so are NATIVE to those areas that they are capable of traveling to ON THEIR OWN.
Whereas, an animal genetically engineered through selective breeding, such as CATS, are NOT AN INDIGENOUS SPECIES ANYWHERE. They are no more natural to any native environment anywhere on earth than some genetically engineered insect that was invented in some lab, that once released out into nature will destroy all native wildlife, JUST AS CATS DO. Someone once kept a "pet" bee one time. He too selectively bred this pet. After he selectively bred it it was called an Africanized Bee. It accidentally escaped his supervised confinement, and look what happened. Luckily for us they're' not destroying the complete food-chain in every ecosystem where they are found today, are limited in their range, and they're not spreading many deadly diseases to all humans and wildlife -- you know, all those fun things that these domesticated-species cats do. Â
If you phenomenally stupid cretins are going to use ecology, biology, speciation, and genetics in your arguments, the very LEAST that you could do is have a base comprehension of what you are talking about. Don't you think? Â
No. And that's the problem with terminally ignorant morons like you, you CAN'T think. Â
If ONLY there was a legal cure for "stupid".
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For example:
It is mandatory by law in nearly every, if not every, state of the USA to shoot any dog on sight that is seen harassing wildlife. And a property owner has EVERY RIGHT to destroy ANY animal that is threatening the well-being, safety, and health of their own family and animals. (Minus those on endangered or threatened species lists or under protection of MBTA (Migratory Bird Treaty Act), though variances can still be given should there be sufficient problem, but this requires further study by authorities.) This is why feral dog-packs are a rarity in most rural areas. They are SHOT before things get that bad. Unfortunately, people moving to the country aren't aware of this so they refuse to do their civic and moral duty by destroying that dog or cat that is harming other animals.
I keep a paintball-gun loaded with red-pellets for any stray dogs. Stings enough to teach a teachable dog, and leaves a nice signal on their coat. The first time they get the paintball gun. If that doesn't teach the owner and alert them to what could have really happened to their dog, then out comes the rifle next time. Cats aren't so easily forgiven, because from past experience I know that warning a cat-owner does no good. So out comes the rifle on the first sighting of a cat instead of the paintball-gun.
People in rural areas who actually care about their animals keep them supervised, or they lose them -- permanently .
You can tell who actually loves their animals in rural areas -- their animals are still alive.
 @Nature Advocate  @justanopionion So..for the sake of intellectual thought...you stated previously that it's the pet owners job to keep their pets from harm lest they be held criminally responsible for animal abandonment, animal neglect, animal endangerment, animal cruelty etc. So Nature...I'm just wondering how I or my farm neighbors might protect themselves from legal liability and their pets from harm...with someone like you running around. A person who doesn't see the value of life, doesn't honor other peoples property (pets are considered property and you have previously bragged about killing feral cats and known pets) and clearly gets emotional supply out of the attention that comes from behaving this way.Â
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While I recognize that dialogue with you is off topic...I do want to say that it's a shame someone like you who prefers bigger prey...hasn't pegged you as feral. You seem to display some of the known hallmarks of an invasive species. You are clearly socially irresponsible. Clearly don't honor or respect other people. Clearly dangerous with your rifle and 2 years of committed killing. I can't help but wonder and worry about how long it will be before you stop focusing on cats & dogs and decide that you don't like your fellow neighbors either...you're moral code seems dangerously psychotic.Â
 @honorbound So true honorbound, this idiot is just trying to cause a stir.
 @honorbound  @Nature Advocate  @djshimon Not quite, intellectual thought is interesting.  Stupid babble is not.  Take it somewhere else.
 @Nature Advocate  @justanopionion  @djshimon Do you really consider your over the top, off topic, irrational tirade to be "Socially Responsible'? I'd like to hear what folks on this dialogue think of that. Folks?
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Perhaps cat-owners should learn the distinction between being a responsible pet-owner and a criminally irresponsible one. If not, too bad. The rest of the world is not their pet's baby-sitter. A highly destructive INVASIVE-SPECIES pet at that. That's THEIR job to keep them from harm lest they be held criminally responsible for animal-abandonment, animal-neglect, animal-endangerment, animal-cruelty, and invasive-species laws. Let them explain to their child why their criminally irresponsible behavior got their cat killed by road-kill, environmental poisons, died from a cat or animal attack, or was trapped and drowned, or shot by someone who is more respectful and responsible about their world than the criminally irresponsible cat-owner. Maybe in that lesson in explaining the death of their cat to their child that the parent too will grow up into a socially responsible, respectable, and respectful human as well one day. Though I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that to ever happen.
 @justanopionion  @Nature Advocate  @djshimon Easy to bore someone with only a handful of brain cells.Â
 @Nature Advocate  @honorbound  @djshimon Blah Blah Blah Blah zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, you are boring me.  Get off your pity pot.
 @Nature Advocate  @justanopionion  @djshimon Nature Advocate....you sound like an old party NAZI. You clearly seem to take pride in killing for killing sake. Now you brag about it taking two hunting seasons to kill FERAL, PET, IT MATTERS NOT. You now admit to having arbitrarily determined that it was OK to kill feral cats and known pets on your land. I wonder how many of your neighbors have grieved the loss of a 4 pawed family member because of your apparently psychotic behavior?
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You can look at it this way .... it took me 2 hunting seasons to get rid of every last stray cat on my land, feral, pet, it mattered not. And all thanks to this effort of mine not ONE cat has returned to again senselessly destroy anything for 3 years now. (Disproving again the cat-lovers' psychotic "vacuum effect" LIE.) This was done through relentless vigilance and accuracy. I realized that the ONLY way to prevent this from ever happening again was to apply the very same techniques now to those that had caused this local ecological disaster in the first place. To stop them, for myself and everyone else that has been tormented in life by people just like these mindless TNR advocates. I'm not going away until every last person that advocates the release of these highly-destructive, food-chain destroying, deadly-disease spreading, invasive-species cats has been stopped from practicing their criminally-irresponsible behavior. You can count on that.
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Nature, you have 5 points which means you are not respected. Â Not a single person is trying to correct me except you and your foolish thoughts. Â Go away.
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 @Nature Advocate You are a fool and seemingly a complete nut case.  I am done with you.  Go somewhere else so spread you ugliness.
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The very last bastion of any completely proved false and totally failed religion (like TNR) -- censorship.
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I quite like when these cat-lickers try to get my posts censored. They have single-handedly denounced the complete concept that they claim to defend.
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 @honorbound  @Nature Advocate  @djshimon Please flag Nature Advocate's comments as offensive and off topic.  Name calling and insulting is not proper behavior according to KATU guidelnes.  This person has also admitted to killing cats... Please Flag with generosity.
 @honorbound  @Nature Advocate  @djshimon I suspect that our Mean neighbor has taken on multiple identities in this forum.  I cannot believe the crap I am reading here.
 @Nature Advocate What about Thundercats? Should they be shot too? Does the Cat in the Hat carry oocysts?
 @Nature Advocate  @djshimon Hey self proclaimed Nature Advocate....you're clouding the issue here with your self indulgent intelligensia. The issue at hand is the Cat Lady and Her Neighbors...stick to the subject.Â