Octopus hunter: 'It's no different than fishing'
SEATTLE -- The man behind a controversial killing of an octopus says he has received death threats over the incident even though the catch was completely legal.
Angry divers took photos of Dylan Mayer holding the octopus he had caught. The photos captured 20-year-old Mayer and his friend on the shore, tossing the octopus onto the bed of his truck then being measured on the floor of his garage.
Mayer said he can't make sense of the controversy surrounding his catch.
"I eat it for meat. It's no different than fishing. It's just a different animal," he said.
The idea to catch an octopus came from a friend's art project, Mayer said.
"He wanted me to get something from nature, so I got an octopus. I caught it, and then these divers came up and started yelling at me. I ignored them and ended up driving away," he said.
Scuba divers from all over the world visit Puget Sound in hopes of seeing the native giant Pacific octopus. But many divers say what Mayer did to an octopus at Cove Two in West Seattle on Wednesday was not neighborly at all.
"As they were coming in, you could tell the octopus was alive. It was writhing around, and they were wrestling with it," said witness Bob Bailey.
The uproar has not stopped since they hit shore, according to Mayer, who said he has received dozens of threatening phone calls and hate-filled emails. He said he has been demonized in the diving community, especially after some divers claimed he had caught a female octopus that had been sitting on her legs.
"That's not true. There were no eggs under it, and we checked," he said. "I even had a game warden come over and look at it, and even they said there was no problem with it."
The involved game warden, Wendy Willette, said Mayer did not do anything wrong.
"I think the timing, manner and place where the harvest occurred may be the issue. It could have been done at a better time," she said. "It's like deer hunting. You don't kill a deer while kids are viewing it, and I think it's a similar problem here. You need to be sensitive to other drivers and people if you're going to be a sportsman."
Mayer said he would likely do thinks differently if he could do it all over again.
"I probably would have gone at a different time. I probably would have gone to another area of Cove Two," he said. "The bottom line is another octopus will move up into that area and take its place."
Mayer said he has been banned from several dive shops in Washington state. He said his life-long dream of becoming a rescue diver is now in jeopardy as several diving schools have denied him admission in the wake of the controversial catch.
I am sure that if someone slit the throat of a goat in a public park that would be alright too? No one would think that is disgusting and cruel? In any case Cove 2 will soon be off limits to hunting anyway because of what this maggot did. As for anything that happens to him because he got caught public is on him and him alone. He made the choice of "hunting" at a public dive park where 99.999% of the divers there protect the Reef life , not dystroy it.
Whats so bad about shooting a deer in view of children? They need to learn how to do it somehow. This society has become way to sensitive! I bet 90% of the people now days wouldn't have survived life in the 1800's.
Hopefully the self important jerks who made it their goal to negatively impact this kids life are slapped with a nice lawsuit.
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Well please list the dive shops that banned him, so I can banned them, i'm tired of  self-righteous, lynch mobs. and Katu needs to stop encouraging discrimination against ideas they don't like. TO BE NON-BIASED.
 @who? What do you expect from a tool of a news organization. They wont even cover Benghazi.
He did it for fun, not for food --maybe some sea creature will do the same to him and even the score
 @Hello how the heck do you know why he did it, and why is it anyone's business, the warden said it was legal so all of you feel good liberal dips need to get a life.Â
What a punk! I hope someone get him and lays him out in the garage and takes measurments. He should be very ashamed and better not brag about in front of me cause I'll make him swollow it whole!
 @stinger139 Whatever.
What other rights do you want to deprive people of?
You can just bite me.
 @stinger139 maybe someone will make you swallow it whole too you jerk
SHE WAS ON HER EGGS! IT WAS WRONG! I think these beautiful creatures should be protected, or there should be laws controlling such practices. I use to hunt and fish quite a bit, but this goes against the most important rule a true "sports fisherman" abides by. "CATCH AND RELEASE." What a disgrace! This really makes me sad not only for the Octopi that this happens to, but the long term environmental impact could be immeasurable if such practices aren't monitored from now on. We've depleted the oceans to the point to where we eat "garbage fish" now. Why do you think Tilapia is readily available in the stores all of the sudden? Because people like this who have no respect for the natural cycles of nature. This just makes me want to vomit.
 @PDXBEAR There's no proof that she was on her eggs and in addition, the game warden wasn't even sure if it was a she.
@pdxtvguy @PDXBEAR Then that warden has no business being a warden if he can tell . The idiot admitted he took her of eggs...
 @Civ    @PDXBEAR Civ, actually that's not true.  At no time did he admit that he took "her" off her eggs.  According to the diver who actually confronted him, this was his statement regarding the eggs comment,
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"Let me just point out that I have no proof that the octopus this guy took
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Because no one actually saw him take the animal from it's spot on the bottom, there's absolutely no proof that there were any eggs to start with.
 @PDXBEAR You look pretty healthy in your picture. I am guessing the practice of 'catch and eat' hasn't escaped you much.
Get over it, its the cycle of life.
The Kid looks like an obnoxious punk. After spreading the animal out on a dirty garage floor to measure for the "art" project...I'm sure he's going to eat it. After all, what's a little dirt, grease and gasoline mixed in with your sushi? Gives it flavor!  As many other people have already said on the site, the idiot may not have broken any state "laws" but if his story of being a diver and wanting to rescue dive are true--he willfully broke rules of the diving community and demonstrated a complete lack of empathy for another life and because of that, people will respond in a negative manner. It's sad that some of the repercussions are so far reaching, but maybe this will be a valuable life lesson to a 20 year old who obviously thinks he knows it all, and teach him that unspoken codes are sometimes more binding than written rules.
 @MissLissaJ My deer typically roll all over on the forest floor after I shoot them. Once you peel the skin off its all good.
 @MissLissaJ so you think he is going to eat the skin as well as the flesh, you sure aren't the sharpest tool in the garage are you?
 @BarbWire Hey barb, dahling...have you ever actually eaten octopus? Generally speaking, one does not skin them. At least, we don't, and most of the places that serve them don't skin them either. Regardless--a great pacific octopus weighs in at up to 110lbs and that was a biggie he had in his hands. Is he going to boil that for hours to get all the skin off? I doubt it. Besides...the trick is fresh octopus. Throwing it in his truck (with no source of sea water) letting it writhe around and die, then throwing it on the ground is NOT going to keep the meat edible. He admitted that a friend asked him to get "something from the sea" for an art project just after saying he ate it for meat.  Yes, we eat octopus. But I buy it from sustainbly farmed sources, not rip it out of the wild when it could be protecting young. It's all in the approach. If you're a jerk (see your comment above) people tend to negatively react. Especially when the creature in question was obviously left suffering for longer than it needed to be.
 @MissLissaJ i didn't call you a dip, that was someone else, I guess you are a lib and you give them  all a bad name.Â
 @BarbWire btw, I'm not a liberal dip either. But I DO object to unnecessary cruelty of any sort. You give conservatives a bad name.
Under state law, he took it as he had to- bringing it out of the water alive is a requirement. The Diver, Bob Bailey, is known as outspoken. He went on to support shunning this kid by dive shops and others joined in to recommend dive shops only give him a 10% air fill so he would run out while underwater. They also called his employer to have him fired from his job- which he was. All for something legal.Â
 @cavtrooper All those responses are legal as well. What's the problem with shunning someone for their behavior?
 @knottriel No problem but unwarranted. Bob approached him, and knowing him was confrontational. The kid, being a kid, didn't handle it any better. Having dove Alki, I'm not happy about it either but Bob wanted a firestorm and now he got one.
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I know Bob did not intend to have a lawsuit dropped on him as he really can't afford it and I hope it gets resolved by the forum he spouted off on, drops him.Â
If you are going to hunt animals for food, you have a moral obligation to do so with respect and mercy. To needlessly inflict pain and suffering on an animal is wrong.
 @Altazi I'm guessing you've never hunted octopus before.  You have no idea how it's actually done.
We walk by homeless people out in the cold and hungry ..... but harvest a cute octopus ..... well gee whiz
I don't think it was so much catching the Octopus but the fact he didn't kill it and let it writhe around in the bed of his truck until it died and also his attitude. Â In the article yesterday he had taunted the other divers by saying he saw the Octopus guarding her eggs and now they weren't being guarded anymore.
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But bottom line, it was legal....maybe next time he will think a little more and maybe have a better attitude.
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Notice today his story has changed to "she was not guarding eggs"
Notice how you are relying on a total strangers statement that he said such a thing.
 @Brownknight And aren't you doing the same when implying he didn't say it?
Being a retired Divemaster, I have to tell these other divers to get a life!! I can see if it was illegal, but this was a legal catch.
 @dkgiovenco It may have been legal but was it caught and handled in a humane manner with respect and gratefulness? Needless suffering by throwing it alive in the back of a truck to slowly suffocate just seems really cruel and callous. It sure does not resemble a clean quick death for the octopus. Lastly... Couldn't he have just enjoyed seeing it/visiting it instead of killing it in the ugly manner that he did? How do we really know it wasn't on eggs??
 @dkgiovenco Most divers I know don't think that way.  They are very respective of nature so they think of "fishing" while on a dive is wrong.  I don't think that way but I understand that is their nature and the way they behave during a dive.
 @MFMFIM  @dkgiovenco MANY divers hunt. In fact living in Panama, the cooks spent the early mornings diving for breakfast- if you have the means, I highly recommend eggs and lobster for breakfast!Â
I have been diving since 1972 and have harvested oysters, crab, and spearfished. Most of the time I was with other divers who were doing the same. They did not find fishing wrong. I think the issue here that fires everyone up is the harvesting of an octopus. Had it been a bag of crab, a squid or a shark, I doubt there would have been such a hullabaloo. Divers like to play with octopus and leave them as interaction is usually not as common. This may be a popular dive area, if you do not like fishing here, make it a sanctuary or preserve. Do not just demonize this guy. He was legal and his arrogance may have to do more with the ignorance and attitude of others.
I don't have an issue with the guy catching an octopus for food and I understand most divers respect nature so they are upset to see something like this happen.
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What I do have an issue with is bad grammar. Â O.K., I'm not perfect and do try correct it when I see a mistake. Â
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Shouldn't, "I probably would have gone at a different time. I probably would have gone to another area of Cove Two," be ,"I probably would have gone at a different time. I probably would have gone to another area of Cove too,"?
@MFMFIM Cove 2 is a place, "another area of Cove two" (typed out in this case) is correct. It's between Cove 1 and Cove 3.Â
"I eat it for meat. It's no different than fishing. It's just a different animal," he said."Â Â Followed by, "The idea to catch an octopus came from a friend's art project, Mayer said."
I highly doubt that catch became dinner. Arrogrant punk kid and so much for the liberal artsy crowd caring about the environment.    Though Death threats, thats a bit much I think.
@jpdx00 I totally agree. Which was it...hunting because he eats the meat, or because his friend has an art project??? Stupid kid.
It wasn't illegal but he killed a sea creature in a city underwater park. Divers don't hunt there, they dive there. He was a jacked up on testosterone macho man that just had to kill something. Â
There KOMO article said that a number of Dive shops had decided that they no longer wanted his business along with a number of Diving Schools which really limits his ability to train for a diving related position.
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He may not have violated the law but he violated a basic code among divers by "sport fishing" at a recreational dive destination which is effectively "unsportsmanlike behavior" and depreciates the highly accessible dive location by depriving other novice recreational divers the opportunity to see cool critters.Â
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Clearly, his actions violated the standards of conduct among his peer community of divers who have determined that he stole from the commons and killed a creature that lived in a virtual petting zoo.
Well. There you go. Your post pretty well sums it up. Wish I could give you 20 thumbs up!
For meat? Yuck. Yes, I have eaten octopus. Waaaay back in 1980 at a fancy place in Colorado. Tastes nasty and has an objectionable texture.                                                                                                                                                                                                          And an octopus is about as intelligent as a cat. They're clever, thoughtful, and playful. Killing one is a nasty thing to do, plenty of other things to eat from the ocean that are NOT intelligent. The attitude of the diver(s) involved is a big reason why they're being vilified. Jerks.
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Yes, I am sure that his trophy will rot in the garbage rather than living as example of underwater life enjoyed by hundreds of novice sport divers.
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I have dived at that location and it should be protected from "sport" fishing.
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This kid really should have known better; I blame his mom.
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I agree...he should have learned this by age 12; those lessons people don't learn last a lifetime.
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His entire family should be ashamed but I doubt that they have the capacity.
hypocrites that think meat just magically appears on the shelves of grocery stores. if someone does go through with the death threat will they eat his meat? highly unlikely
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Yes, next time you're at the petting zoo just feel free to slit the throat of a goat and toss it in your truck.
Get a life people!
"The involved game warden, Wendy Willette, said Mayer did not do anything wrong." According to the law. ""I think the timing, manner and place" Is the key, here. Smirking, swaggering, showing off. That is what pissed everyone off.