Portland approves fluoride: 'Science is on the side of fluoridation'
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PORTLAND, Ore. — In a meeting where police had to remove unruly protesters for yelling, swearing, hissing and disrupting the vote, the Portland City Council on Wednesday unanimously approved adding fluoride to the city's drinking water.
City councilors argued it's Portland's responsibility to protect childrens' health. Medical experts say it's a safe and effective way to keep teeth healthy.
"Reasonable people can disagree, but the science is on the side of fluoridation," said Mayor Sam Adams.
Portland was the largest U.S. city without fluoridation.
Opponents disputed whether fluoride is safe and said adding the mineral to drinking water violates a person's right to consent to medication.
They also say council members rushed into action without a public vote. They plan to collect almost 20,000 signatures in the next 30 days to force a referendum early next year — before the mineral is added to a water supply that serves about 900,000 people in Portland and a few suburbs.
"There is no question that we are going to need a lot of financial and volunteer support to make this happen, but we are seeing a major backlash to how the City Council has handled this," said Kim Kaminski, executive director of Oregon Citizens for Safe Drinking Water.
Mayor Sam Adams repeatedly called for order during the meeting as outraged fluoride protesters continued to yell and shout. One protester dropped a large banner from the balcony demanding a public vote.
Other opponents booed, hissed and held signs that said "Public water, public vote." When it became apparent that commissioners would indeed approve the ordinance, they stood with their backs turned.
Many protesters also brought their children to the meeting.
Commissioner Nick Fish said he couldn't remember an issue that brought out so much passion on both sides.
Fish, who co-sponsored the plan, has said more than 200 million Americans drink water with added fluoride, and it doesn't appear to have caused great harm. Most mainstream health organizations, such as the American Medical Association and American Dental Association, endorse it as safe.
Commissioners said now is the time to act because Portland children have more dental problems than kids from neighboring states that fluoridate, and adding the mineral to the water is the most safe, effective and affordable way to address it.
They say fluoridation will at least give children, particularly those from families without money or education, some protection against tooth decay.
"A 3-year-old child can't be expected to take responsibility for their dental care," Commissioner Dan Saltzman said, to which a frustrated member of the audience shouted: "Their parents can."
The ordinance calls for Portland's water to be fluoridated by March 2014 at a projected upfront cost of $5 million.
Opponents told KATU News they plan to file for a citizen referendum with the goal of bringing the issue to a public vote.
A referendum would need 19,858 valid signatures, which is six percent of the total number of people who were registered to vote during the last primary election, according to City Elections Officer Deborah Scroggin.
Unless the City Council calls for a special election, a qualifying referendum petition would appear on the ballot in the next primary or general election, which is May of 2014.
The deadline for items on the ballot in the 2012 general election was Sept. 6.
Voters in Portland twice rejected fluoridation before approving it in 1978. But that plan was overturned before any fluoride was ever added to the water.
KATU's Valerie Hurst contributed to this story.
Statement from Portland Commissioner Dan Saltzman:
This morning, I voted in favor of fluoridating Portland's water. I wish to thank everyone who called or emailed their opinion and to share information with me on fluoridation. To the nearly 300 people who testified at the public hearing, I stand in awe of your civility and respect for one another, and to the City Council—through seven hours of testimony.
As the city's children's commissioner, I oversee nearly $100 million in taxpayer funds to protect and care for children through the Portland Children's Levy. When I make those investment decisions I look for proven means to maximize the health, safety and welfare of our kids.
For a relatively small public expenditure to fluoridate our drinking water, our community will reap tremendous long-term dividends in the form of the improved health of Portland's kids. In addition, the public testimony documents the benefits to the dental health of older adults.
Some opponents argue we should not flouridate our water because dental health is an individual's responsibility. While this is a nice concept in theory, the reality is a three-year old child cannot be expected to take responsibility for their own dental health.
A child in foster care who has been in a dozen foster homes cannot be expected to ensure that the adults looking after her get her proper dental care or even have access to her dental records. I believe it is particularly important to protect the health of young children but I also believe we need to help ensure their future success in life.
The dental health of a child during their formative years will affect him for his entire life. It is extremely hard to concentrate in school when your mouth hurts all the time. Later in life, the self-consciousness that results from poor dental care can become a major barrier to finding a job.
The single most effective, safest, and affordable way to extend life-long dental health to our youngest Portlanders is to fluoridate our drinking water. This is the right thing to do.
What a load of crap. The National Academy of Science who probably has more degrees that this entire council says that fluoride is toxic. http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=11571  They released this report in 2006. These pin heads from the various groups sent here to sell this toxic waste have a lot of explaining to do. Fluoride was banned in Europe. It wasn't permitted in South America. They seem more alert than we do. Could it be because fluoride notoriously attacks the thyroid and endocrine system? The soviets and nazis used it to pacify their detainees and to render concentration camp inmates infertile.Â
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I am appalled at the ignorance of this city council. Oh, by the way, boys...look forward to big viagra bills. Fluoride binds to testosterone.Â
The July 20th edition of the prominent journal Environmental Health Perspectives, a federal government medical journal stemming from the United States National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences. includes the results of research studies by Harvard scientists that show that fluoride can damage the brain and lower the IQ.
In a written statement, researchers state: âThe children in high fluoride areas had significantly lower IQ than those who lived in low fluoride areas.â
WANT TO REMOVE THE FLUORIDE from your tap water? Easy -- buy a water distiller. Don't bother with the filtered reverse osmosis systems. Go the simple, inexpensive route and remove ALL the fluoride through distillation. Then you can tell the Portland City Council and all of their corrupt financial supporters to shove it. The latest research out of Harvard clearly shows that drinking fluoride reduces a child's IQ by about 8%. Check the OBJECTIVE and PRIVATELY FUNDED RESEARCH. There are about 40 studies that clealry show fluoride is a neurotoxin.
This fluoride issue should have been laid to rest years ago. Particularly with the publication of the 2006 NRC report outlining an abundance of health concerns with regard to fluoride ingestion, how could anyone in his or her right mind continue to advocate this obsolete practice? The solution is so damn simple that it baffles the mind how stupid  the public (and its political leaders) continue to be. Specifically, for those who want to ingest fluoride, buy inexpensive fluoride tablets comprised of pharmaceutical grade sodium fluoride. In this way, you control the dose, control who gets it (and who does not), and you do not impose your choice on the rest of the population. For those who can't afford the few dollars per month to purchase the tablets, a program to help subsidize said purchases can be instituted. That's a helluva lot cheaper than forging ahead with multimillion dollar projects to build more fluoridaton infrastructure (and suffer the higher monthly water bills, as a result). Furthermore, water fluoridation is profoundly wasteful as the vast majority of water (about 99%) does not even strike teeth surfaces and enter the body since most municipal water is used for purposes other than consumption. But sadly, as America is pretty much comprised of a bunch of naive fools, frauds, and idiots, water fluoridation will probably never go away. I used to be involved in this issue; I don't avail myself anymore, and that is because the bad people (dental lobby, statist politicans, fluoride profiteers) have clearly won.
"Even small amounts of fluoride consumed from tap water can damage your bones, teeth, brain, disrupt your thyroid function, lower IQ and/or cause cancer, according to evidence revealed in a groundbreaking 2006 National Research Council (NRC) fluoride report produced by a panel of experts who reviewed hundreds of published fluoride studies."
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If you grew up drinking it, you're probably already to stupid to know any better. (sarcasm)
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I moved away from flouridated water it was like reawakening.Â
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But let's face it folks. Our officials would MUCH rather have us be a dumbed down flock of sheep so they don't have to deal with our whining and complaining, and as a mild sedative, i'm sure crime rates might see a drop too. In a way, theres benifits?
Let the people vote on this now don't let this city council impose this poison on us, make your children brush their teeth with fluoride tooth paste that's what's it designed to do, how much money is someone getting under the table to put this poison in our water ?Â
The City Council, comprised of a parasitic non-scientific political hack class, is the least qualified to decide on this issue. Water fluoridation should never have begun shortly after 1945, and the sooner it is stopped the better. Tragically, I don't think that it can and ever will be stopped. And that is because this country is full of too many idiotic, power-hungry, greedy, and nefarious individuals. To the people of Portland, my message is straightforward: YOU HAVE NO CHOICE! You must submit to your rulers, i.e., the Portland City Council and the mayor. Welcome to the new 21st century Amerika!
Check out this informative video on the history of fluoridation by Christopher Bryson, an award winning journalist and former BBC producer:
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It is about 28 minutes long but it is worth watching.
Ironically, Portland legislators are so sure fluoridation is safe but the University of Arizona School of Public Health just put together a report which shows no high quality studies have ever been done on fluoridation safety to any body part that wasn't the teeth. Unlike the thousands of studies showing safety that was bandied about, U of A researchers found only 86 human studies that were conducted and most of them were low quality and none with high quality.
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 @Solipsist01 Um no. Fluoride in our water like all other major cities and eating recycled people are two different things. Nice try.
 @Ham Chucks  @Solipsist01 don't be so damn sure
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Four points I have on this bad decision. First off, flouride is only good for children with developing teeth. Since only 20% of the population is going to benefit, the rest of it is being 'wasted'. Another way to look at it, if $1mm is spent on this, $800,000 is being flushed down the toilet, literally. Secondly, thanks to state law, flouride tablets are free to anyone that has healthcare. Any child in Oregon is eligible for free healthcare if they are below income limits. If not, do you know how cheap flouride tablets are? Less then $5 a month. Third. The other communities that this effects were comepletely ignored in this process. Fourth, I'm not shocked the city figured out another way to spend money and to increase water rates...AGAIN.
 @the real snoop This is a good economic argument but the truth is that fluoride doesn't actually help the teeth at all. It does increase the amount of bone cancer in young males and crystalize bone
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 @the real snoop Lets refute all your points. First off, flouride is good for all peoples, and since this is 100% benefit, the result is a gain. Another way to look at it, if $1M is spend on this, we stand to gain more than $1M in wasted dental care. Secondly, most children are not below income limits so they will also benefit without the hassle of getting some tablets. This is a positive for our nation. Less waste, get it from the water already. Third, the other communities are at fault for not having their own water. Learn the lesson from OPEC nations. Fourth, your being shocked is completely irrelevant as we simply don't care. It's TRUE.
 @Ham Chucks  @the real snoop Actually, read the NAS report chowder head. It says that fluoride is NOT GOOD FOR ANYBODY. Oh....bonus, it does bind to testosterone so your ship will be flagging.
Are you serious or are you being sarcastic?
Having lived in Portland I'd be more worried about what they're ALREADY putting in the water.
For once, a headline that completely and eloquently captures the fundamental argument.
It seems strange to me that almost everybody's all upset about a little flouride in the water, but they have
no qualms about putting meth, cocaine, heroine, alcohol, etc in their bodies. I grew up w/ flouride in the
water, & it didn't hurt me.
We've had flouride in our water in Beaverton ever since we moved out here in 1976. No health problems and no cavities at our house.
 @catherine.henry Fluoride is not the only thing that gives you healthy teeth. Much of it is about good dental hygiene and diet. I know people who have been without fluoride in the water their whole lives and have had no more than a single cavity. Others with it in the water have had many, many cavities.
 @Jenni S. Since you admit that fluoride is also a thing of benefit, why would you want our children not to have it? Why do you not think of the children?
If you want to swallow fluoride, then purchase sodium fluoride pharaceutical grade tablets. That which is dripped into the tap is NOT a  pharaceutical grade product. By taking tablets, one is able to control the dose, control who gets it (and who does not), and also allow the population to make this personal choice for themselves.
Yea!!! Floride in the water. It is great for all members in the community. If you don't like it move out of town or buy bottled water.
Buy bottled water or move out of town? Boy, you must think people are made out of money and can afford to do either option.
 @Luckylucy Many of us already live "out of town", but will still be stuck with Portland's decision since it will cover everyone who gets their water from Bull Run.
 @Jenni S. Your not stuck with it, where your city obtains its water is up to them. Contact your city or water district and ask them to obtain its water from a different source. Granted you probably want to avoid TVWD.
And they wonder why people drink bottled water. They want us to stop using bottled water, then poison the city water supply. They can't have it both ways. People drink bottled water because they don't trust what the politician have done to the water supplies.
Given that it affects all the citizens of this city, it should be a decision let up to those citizens and not some nitwit politicians who are more concerned with politics than the well-being of the people.
 @Mikey No just "of this city", but everyone getting water from Bull Run, such as many of the communities around Portland.
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Fluoride ingestion is cumulative. Over many years there is proven harm. Furthermore, for those hypersensitve to the chemical there may be acute responses to its exposure.
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Then you have not thought this through. You don't just drink the water, you bath in it, you cook with it, water gardens with it. When you boil it, it becomes more concentrated. It accumulates in your body...your bones, liver, kidneys, etc. You may brush your teeth with fluoridated toothpaste. Bottled teas and juices may be made with fluoridated water, including wines and beers. You may eat produce that has been watered with fluoridated water. Toxicity is not just probable, it is inevitable. Read the warning on a tube of fluoridated toothpaste.
In a town in Tennessee in 2009 they voted to discontinue fluoridating the water. They still had some fluoride left and needed to dispose of it. They found that the cost of disposing of it was so excessive, because it is considered a hazardous waste. They decided to continue fluoridation for 1 more month so they could get rid of it. It is a hazardous waste product. You, Harry need to educate yourself on the truth about fluoride and fluoridation.Â
Our public servants have taken on the behavior of dictators and drug pushers. They are in the back pocket of the lobbyists and the criminals who sell their waste instead of disposing of it properly. But that would cost them too much $ so they poison our water with it instead.
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 @HarryJuku Not the point, Harry. It's an unnecessary additive and should be left up to the people to decide. Besides, all the fluoride in the world isn't going to help people who won't even take basic care of their teeth in the first place.
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 @back4more  @HarryJuku  @Mikey No need to mass medicate/poison the rest of us. You can always give your children fluoride tablets-no one is keeping you from supplementing fluoride if you think it's right. My teeth are fine and I'd prefer my pineal gland un-calcified and functioning.
 @back4more  @HarryJuku  @Mikey I bet you children have less than a stellar diet. Sugar, processed foods, and soda destroy teeth.Â
 @HarryJuku  @Mikey Seriously hilarious all the flipping out over this. My kids teeth are a mess AND we floss/brush twice a day and it's NOT enough! I'm so glad it's finally happening!!
Had this in NYC when I lived there 50 years ago people were getting sick, it makes old people sick, turn it down.
@parrot456 Yeah, because if it weren't for fluoride old people would never get sick!
because the members of the city counsel all have degrees in medicine? ya right. Bad Idea.Â
Yes please vote these fools out! For the people who say they are already putting chlorine in our water so we shouldn't complain about fluoride I will point out that chlorine is easily removed by Pur or Britta filter or even leaving the water out for 24 hours. For the people who say its such a small amount don't worry about keep in mind that not all people or cows drink the same amount of water. I run so I drink more water on average. Also since fluoride is not easily removed, when you are cooking with it and boiling the water down for your pasta or making homemade soup you will be increasing the level of fluoride you are ingesting. Also if you drink local beer and wine well then even more fluoride.
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If the city council really cared about the poor kids and foster children there where is the program to help them? 5 million to set up and $ every year for upkeep is a huge waste of money compared to a program that would help the poor children. Give the kids vouchers for dentist visits, give them all the toothpaste and floss they need and I guarantee it would cost WAY LESS TAXPAYER MONEY. Think of how much water is being treated and how much of that water is actually for drinking. .0001 % that is just a guess but I am sure its close.
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The only people who will benefit are the bottle water companies and China who will have yet another US city to sell industrial waste too. The reason people are so upset about this is our water is the best in the nation...now it is not!
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Buh bye Sam Adam and congrats for being the worst mayor Portland has ever seen!
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So the AMA endorses fluoride as safe. Well, um, doctors used to think bleeding someone was safe.
For those of you unhappy with this remember as I said have stated before - you voted these clowns in ..... now pay the price!
 @kilchisriver Unfortunately many of us who this affects did not vote them in - we don't live in Portland. So they made a decision for us, yet do not represent us.
 @Jenni S.  @kilchisriver I agree with Jenni.
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I'm not as much against the flouride as the principle.  I guess that makes me a NIMF (Not In My Faucet!)
Well, at least there is hope in putting some of the city council members out of a job come Nov ad one could recall the rest if that isn't soon enough to get the rest out.We al know that this will push he issue to a vote by the people, which is only fair plus the outlining communities that get their water from the same place should also get a vote.
I am sure Adams, knowing this is a hot button issue, did this on purpose..to push it to the ballot but by doing this, he is costing areas monies they could have better spent elsewhere.Only in Portland could you have a mismatched set of morons deciding the fates of others.
They are sadly confusing "science" with "endorsements". They (the city) need to disclose the exact source, contents and mixture of the 'fluoride' being injected into the water. Then disclose results of all toxicity tests none on this BEFORE it's put into the water which prove it's safe. Guess what? This won't happen because tests are not done and if they were it would be proven toxic, not safe!Â
 @FluorideFreeAnniston are you saying that the rest of the country is drinking unsafe water???
 @onceagain  @FluorideFreeAnniston Yep, water that slowly poisons. Chronic disease and cancers sure aren't decreasing in this country.
@JTesla @Thinkingishardforthemasses -- Interesting that you are completely ignorant of the latest Harvard research which clearly shows that fluoride is a neurotoxin. That you will go out of your way to mock people so they accept fluoride is the work of a (paid for sock puppet?) psychopath.
 @JTesla That's a debate. There are people living long and healthy lives without chronic diseases, have you heard of the Blue Zones? Cancer can occur at any age, not just the elderly. And actually life expectancy is not necessarily increasing. . . there are news articles titled "First generation not to live longer than their parents" and "Parents may soon outlive obese children."  And when life expectancy at birth does increase it's often by 0.2 years which is what? 2 months? Life expectancy also completely ignores quality of life.Â
 @Thinkingishardforthemasses Neither is life expectency. Nope, that's certainly not decreasing. Chronic diseases and cancers can be tied more to people living longer than it can to fluoride. Just think, if more people died of heart disease in their 50's, they wouldn't live to be 79 and die of cancer... cancer of the fluoride no doubt.