Pot smokers legally light up as new era dawns in Washington
SEATTLE (AP) - The crowds of happy people lighting joints under Seattle's Space Needle early Thursday morning with nary a police officer in sight bespoke the new reality: Marijuana is legal under Washington state law.
Hundreds gathered at Seattle Center for a New Year's Eve-style countdown to 12 a.m., when the legalization measure passed by voters last month took effect. When the clock struck, they cheered and sparked up in unison.
A few dozen people gathered on a sidewalk outside the north Seattle headquarters of the annual Hempfest celebration and did the same, offering joints to reporters and blowing smoke into television news cameras.
"I feel like a kid in a candy store!" shouted Hempfest volunteer Darby Hageman. "It's all becoming real now!"
Washington and Colorado became the first states to vote to decriminalize and regulate the possession of an ounce or less of marijuana by adults over 21.
Both measures call for setting up state licensing schemes for pot growers, processors and retail stores. Colorado's law is set to take effect by Jan. 5.
Technically, Washington's new marijuana law still forbids smoking pot in public, which remains punishable by a fine, like drinking in public. But pot fans wanted a party, and Seattle police weren't about to write them any tickets.
In another sweeping change for Washington, Gov. Chris Gregoire on Wednesday signed into law a measure that legalizes same-sex marriage. The state joins several others that allow gay and lesbian couples to wed.
The mood was festive in Seattle as dozens of gay and lesbian couples got in line to pick up marriage licenses at the King County auditor's office early Thursday.
King County and Thurston County announced they would open their auditors' offices shortly after midnight Wednesday to accommodate those who wanted to be among the first to get their licenses.
Kelly Middleton and her partner Amanda Dollente got in line at 4 p.m. Wednesday.
Hours later, as the line grew, volunteers distributed roses and a group of men and women serenaded the waiting line to the tune of "Going to the Chapel."
Because the state has a three-day waiting period, the earliest that weddings can take place is Sunday.
In dealing with marijuana, the Seattle Police Department told its 1,300 officers on Wednesday, just before legalization took hold, that until further notice they shall not issue citations for public marijuana use.
Officers will be advising people not to smoke in public, police spokesman Jonah Spangenthal-Lee wrote on the SPD Blotter. "The police department believes that, under state law, you may responsibly get baked, order some pizzas and enjoy a 'Lord of the Rings' marathon in the privacy of your own home, if you want to."
He offered a catchy new directive referring to the film "The Big Lebowski," popular with many marijuana fans: "The Dude abides, and says 'take it inside!'"
"This is a big day because all our lives we've been living under the iron curtain of prohibition," said Hempfest director Vivian McPeak. "The whole world sees that prohibition just took a body blow."
Washington's new law decriminalizes possession of up to an ounce for those over 21, but for now selling marijuana remains illegal. I-502 gives the state a year to come up with a system of state-licensed growers, processors and retail stores, with the marijuana taxed 25 percent at each stage. Analysts have estimated that a legal pot market could bring Washington hundreds of millions of dollars a year in new tax revenue for schools, health care and basic government functions.
But marijuana remains illegal under federal law. That means federal agents can still arrest people for it, and it's banned from federal properties, including military bases and national parks.
The Justice Department has not said whether it will sue to try to block the regulatory schemes in Washington and Colorado from taking effect.
"The department's responsibility to enforce the Controlled Substances Act remains unchanged," said a statement issued Wednesday by the Seattle U.S. attorney's office. "Neither states nor the executive branch can nullify a statute passed by Congress."
The legal question is whether the establishment of a regulated marijuana market would "frustrate the purpose" of the federal pot prohibition, and many constitutional law scholars say it very likely would.
That leaves the political question of whether the administration wants to try to block the regulatory system, even though it would remain legal to possess up to an ounce of marijuana.
Alison Holcomb is the drug policy director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Washington and served as the campaign manager for New Approach Washington, which led the legalization drive. She said the voters clearly showed they're done with marijuana prohibition.
"New Approach Washington sponsors and the ACLU look forward to working with state and federal officials and to ensure the law is fully and fairly implemented," she said.
Washington. The State of confusion.
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What is next?  Oh well, we don't want to hurt anyone's feelings or take away any of their, "Entitlements."  That would be awful.  Lets just let everyone do whatever the heck they want to do and see how that goes........?????  What is wrong with people?  Whatever happened to doing the right thing?  What happened to thinking about consequences before you do something?  I guess that is all gone out the window.  ORthinker......Who knows what is next.... I am appalled at the lack of common sense and reason shown in this case.  Surprised no, appalled yes.  What is this, the age of the insanely stupid?  The lack of foresight shown in this case borders on the insane.
 @Reeldeal101 It's OK.
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Our country has been around for some 236 years, and has been going downhill for some time... and it's getting to be time for a big change.
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Just be ready when it all comes crashing down so as not to get caught in the debris field.
the state of Washington should be proud.
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What's next for the state of Washington legalizing pedophiles?
 @ORthinker Exactly how does the legalization of marijuana use and the legalization of gay marriage equate to or lead to legalizing the abuse of children?
I wonder if those annoying "drive under the speed limit" folks will now be pulled over for suspicion of driving under thte influence LOL   Poor old folks.
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The Civil War was fought over "A state's right to choose" whether or not they wanted slavery in their states and the "Federal government's belief that they have the absolute power to force laws onto the states". That war didn't even become a war until the federal government began forcing the southern states to end slavery (even though the southern states were obviously pro- slavery and operating as such). Â If America doesn't want a second Civil War, then I think that the Feds should watch that thin line that are walking on right now. Topics like legalizing gay marriage, legalizing hemp/ cannabis (marijuana is a derogatory term and should not be used by anyone), and the involvement of federal government in things such as health care, schools, and other state issues will never go away. The Feds need to stop ignoring how America wants to handle these issues and start letting tax paying Americans decide for themselves what they want to do about these issues in their own states. Give the Americans what we want and so desperately need, which is the freedom to decide without fear of prosecution by our own government. That is how America was in the beginning, and that is how America should be now and forever. Â We were once a republic of individual states. Able to decide laws ourselves with little to no federal involvement. But now each state must follow the set rules created by dictators in Washington (who obviously do not respect the 10th Amendment). Sorry for the rant. I just see history repeating itself, and that is not a good thing for the whole nation. FACT: The federal government should not bully any state government into enforcing laws that the state doesn't elect for themselves. FACT: People who are scared of their government... that is tyranny. But a government who is scared of their people... that's liberty.Â
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The original reason for the start of the Civil War had to do with violation of a treaty entered in by the states to form a union. Old English law, which was then the precedent makes it clear that once you enter a treaty you are then perpetually bound by that treaty except under a mutual agreement.
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True the southern states knew that eventually slavery was going to become an issue because of the known attitude toward slavery that the North and then the new Pres. Lincoln had.
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The whole slave issue came up several years after the war started. Perhaps you could go see the movie Lincoln it'll help explain that.
 @Salem Oregonian What I find interesting about the Civil War point about state's rights that you mentioned, it's often forgotten that part of what the south was mad about was a NY law that said any slave that entered the state was automatically free. This angered southerners who vacationed or worked in NY because they had to leave their slaves behind, or they could just wander off, as well as those who had their slaves escape and make it to NY because they had no recourse to retrieve them.
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So, while the southern states were screaming states rights, they were also trying to suppress NY's right to make their own laws. It was a major turning point in our history when we realized that we needed a strong federal government to make sure that states rights issues (for better or for worse) don't escalate to where we're shooting at each other again.
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I personally think it would be nice to have states able to make more decisions, but Americans had our chance at that once and kind of blew it.
so where are the users going to buy it and how much is an ounce going to cost. when the state can legally sell it I am sure the local pothead will gratefully go to a dealer instead of the local store, for simple reasons. 1 marijuana grown by the state will be regulated by thc content and the tax will make an ounce more expensive than your local dealers price. marijuana that is grown to have a high concentrate of thc is sought by those who smoke it. do the people of the state of Washington really think that the state will sell marijuana with a thc content of 33 percent, 16 percent or 5 percent. normal thought would be 5 percent as 1 your have to smoke more to get the desired affect and 2 the more you smoke the more repeat business at your local store. however the local dealer who sells marijuana with a higher concentration of thc will have more business from local users but less frequent re-buys as to the amount bought by each user. I believe that the state should set legal ramifications for those who sell it but much like prohibition how is the state going to control the mass of growers and sellers that will circumvent the state. I can see this law being short lived. oh well every dog has its day, today is just the potheads day
 @freedom123 Thank you.
Question. A lot of people talk about how legalization of pot and gay marriage indicate a break down in morality. However, with the passing of these laws how many people are suddenly going to become gay? In reality, how many people are suddenly going to light up? You all act like these elements never existed until now. It was easier to get illegal drugs than any legal prescription drug before this law. Homosexuals still existed. Nothing has changed really.
Did anyone else notice that for example, in the photo for this story that they're smoking pot illegally according to the new law? It can be smoked only inside and not out in public. Not in a public building but rather private ones. Idiots!
 @pdxtvguy The Seattle police have already said they'll just be warning people about smoking pot in public for now. They said basically they wanted to see if it becomes a problem before they start writing tickets for it.
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They've really impressed me with how they've handled it so far. A good mix of humor and restraint.
 @knottriel But just like driving 4 over the speed limit, it's still illegal even if you're not ticketed for it.  Being that it's a new law and others may be modeled after it, you'd think those partaking in the new found freedom may want to be a bit more responsible.  But when you look at those involved, there's not a whole lot of responsibility to go around.
Look at these idiots. They're going to ruin it for themselves, even though its legal you still can't smoke it in public. But what do you expect from potheads.Â
@Beergod  At least they didn't cost the taxpayers any money. Besides, the cops knew and chose to do nothing. It was a celebratory moment...much like the gays being able to get their marriage license at 12:01 a.m.  Oh wait...that one was done on the taxpayers dime.Â
And in related news, prices for snack foods are going up due to higher demand.
Oregon pot heads who couldn't quite fake a back ache and get their med card will be heading to Washington and Oregon will want to legalize once it realizes all the money they are losing.
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@TimBurr I thought the end was nigh when Clinton was re-elected. I thought the end was supposed to be nigh when they started letting the black folks and women vote. BTW, did you hear the DESEGREGATED THE MILITARY? FFS, stop teasing us and bring about the end times. That's what you people promised. Shewt, I've stockpiling since Janet Reno and you crybabies still haven't delivered on your promise. Crap or get off the crapper.
You may not get arrested for using pot but you'll get fired for it. No employer is going to take the chance that someone gets hurt at work and sues them. Things might just open up in the job market real soon.Â
 @concerned thinker I imagine you'll get fired for showing up high just as you would for showing up drunk.   And just as I won't get fired for getting wasted on a day that I do not work, nobody should get fired for getting high on a day off either.
 @Scorcho  @concerned thinker Except the residual effects of pot & THC lasts for days unlike the few hours for alcohol. Studies have also shown that habitual pot smokers take more sick days and visit the doctor more for respiratory problems. Just in time for the very expensive Obamacare.
 @blotto  @TimBurr  @Scorcho  @concerned thinker Blotto,
Reality and life have shown that far more liberals are just plain oblivious.
Unlike some of the, "Other" folks around here, I do not put anything into, nor pull anything out of my A**. Â
Any study that shows any skew towards liberals being more intelligent than conservatives is severely liberally biased and well, just plain not true.
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 @blotto  @TimBurr  @Scorcho  @concerned thinker You forgot the links:
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 @TimBurr  @Scorcho  @concerned thinker Timber, I can't stand' "studies have shown."  If you've got a study, post a link.  Otherwise, people might think your pulling it out of your a**.
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Studies have shown that conservatives are less intelligent.
the dumbing down of america, those people are trashy and they stink, I will avoid washington now too. I hope a lot of other people do too, screw their economy. leave it to all the hippies and we know they wont be contributing to their state
 @franksbeans Are you 80 or something? Did you really complain about hippies? That's who you think smokes pot?
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@franksbeans see, where's Rob C 530 calling him a 10 year old for insulting and belittling people who disagree with him? You all see how that works? Exact quote: ".......somebody thinks differently than you and your response is to insult and call people names. My how tolerant and accepting of you. What are 10, 11 years old?"
@Playanekes I dont have to accept or tolerate anything I don't want to, and I will not accept or tolerate something that gives me headaches or stinks like a skunk, I have every bit as much a right to enjoy my space too and when I have some jack holes smoke coming in my space and stinking it up to where I can't stand it thats not cool, they are trying to force their life style on me not me trying to force it on them, bunch of brain dead morons.
Just turn Washington State into another Amsterdam where used syringes & condoms lie everywhere.
You make it sound like downtown PDX.
 @TimBurr Sounds like you're describing the east side of Portland and you are more than welcome to move like I did.
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I left the east side because I didn't want to risk my kid picking any of those things up.
@deejm2112 @TimBurr I've been playing rock music at clubs throughout Oregon and Washington for 15 years now, and although I've been offered a lot of weed, bought a lot of drinks, and had to work in cigarette-smoked-filled environments, the fact is that the only time anybody offered me white drugs or meth was in Bend and Albany. Not Seattle, Eugene or PDX. Springfield is a great place to get all your stuff stolen too.
THEY DO??? I have never been, and would love to, just to see the redlight district ( I said see not experience, LOL).. but syringes and condoms lying around? Grose. My wife would not like that.Â
 @MrAchilles Mr A, that literally describes my experience on the east side Portland....yet pot and gay marriage are not legal here....
 @MrAchilles Washington has entered "the slippery slope" zone with gay marriage & "legal" pot.
 @Playanekes "yeah...oh, no. They're going to like Amsterdam now. One of the oldest, most beloved and beautiful cities in the history of western civilization. Instead of being like Longview or Camas where everybody's a drunk-driving tweaker anyway, right? The HUMANITY!"
Now that comment is full of win!
@TimBurr @MrAchilles yeah...oh, no. They're going to like Amsterdam now. One of the oldest, most beloved and beautiful cities in the history of western civilization. Instead of being like Longview or Camas where everybody's a drunk-driving tweaker anyway, right? The HUMANITY!
Did they delete all the comments? I swear I commented....hmmm.....I must be stoned.
The guy in the U of Wa sweatshirt rules! Can't smoke on campus but he can wear his college gear while smoking off campus.
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College was once a really cool place to explore the world...that was before it became a business controlled by accountants.
To the rednecks who somehow feel their opinion is what these laws are about: Please be advised the MJ and Marriage laws are not about your opinion. Repeat for clarity. They are not about your opinion.  These laws are about removing the arrogance and judgement that we somehow have the right to invoke regulations on who gets married and who smokes pot. Live and let live.
@rnm my opinion is "Give me liberty, or try to come and take it." You should see my absinthe distillery. My neighbor has, and he's a cop. The fact is the police have better things to worry about while the NannyStatists wring their hands telling everybody else how to live.
One thing that comes to my attention is how Liberal and Progressive Portland and Oregon are not.
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Clearly, the state of Oregon is far more conservative than either Washington or Colorado. Portland just has more hipsters many of whom are trust fund babies.
 @Icarus What the hell are Hipsters? and when did this terminology start cause every time I hear of "Hipsters" I think of a gang.
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Hipsters are just a recycling of the cultural elements and motifs of the BEATS from the mid-50's but they cannot call themselves beats because that is too obviously derivative so the term hipster was created.  It is a hipster commonplace to take credit for everything cool when in fact every hipster novelty is simply something recycled from the forgotten detritus of American Pop culture.
@MrAchilles @Icarus @lee986321 hipsters also brought you thinks like Facebook, smart phones, Google Earth, Netscape (Mozilla) and the World Wide Web. You're not exactly surfing the Internet because of Les Schwab.
That was sarcasm. :)
 @lee986321  @Icarus Any man caught wearing jeans that are tighter fitting then his woman is considered a hipster.
@lee986321 @pdxranger1 @Icarus A "hipster" is the modern equivalent of a YUPPIE, ie an upwardly-mobile young person with a job. Sam Adams gets called a hipster by people who couldn't get elected to mayor if their wife and childrens lives depend on it. But by and large if you a young urban liberal with a career, any marginally-literate underemployed alcoholic hick can call you a "hipster", and then they can't figure out why the hipsters keep raising their taxes.
Or gay.
 @pdxranger1  @Icarus eh, I meant 50's
 @pdxranger1  @Icarus ahh, got it...So like if some creates a wind turbine like a VWAT (Vertical access Wind Turbine) and then they say that they have a "Green technology" and then turn around and say they have a new tech when obviously it has been a round longer then they have..Them...People....
They are identified by wearing tight fitting clothing created in the 60's and late 70's thus giving rise to tight fitting genes.
Well if they really want to get tight fitting clothes, they should use Spandex lol.Please, Don't allow spandex to return, that was a Horrid part of clothing history.