TriMet bus driver again accused of kicking a mom, kids off bus
PORTLAND, Ore. - A TriMet bus driver has been placed on paid leave after she was accused of kicking a mother and her four kids off the bus on June 7.
KATU News has confirmed it's the same bus driver who was accused of a similar incident last fall.
In October, angry passengers tried to reason with the driver.
In the latest incident a Forest Grove police officer said he was called to the scene and the driver told him she didn't want people crying on the bus.
A witness on the bus told the Forest Grove News-Times newspaper that the mother of the children was causing the ruckus and the five of them began to cry after the driver told them to get off the bus because their fare tickets had expired.
The driver eventually made the woman and children exit the bus at 19th Avenue and B Street, which is the end of the line for the No. 57 bus route. It was after 11 p.m.
The Forest Grove police officer eventually drove the family home to Cornelius.
maybe if people would control their kids this wouldnt be happening.
the driver has the right to keep the bus in order. and to look out for the rest of the riders.
Here's the tell-all as far as I'm concerned:
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In the first incident, TriMet disciplined her (10 day suspension w/o pay) in part because she hadn't contacted dispatch before the incident 'escalated' to the point of kicking someone off the bus.
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So, did she contact dispatch this time? Did she at least make the attempt before a police officer had to get involved? If she followed protocol, she's in the clear. But if she's selectively enforcing those rules that pertain to the riders, while ignoring protocol for her own standards, then I have no sympathy.
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i own a business. Those employees that don't follow the rules find themselves unemployed. If my business is going to fail, I want it to be because of something I did (or did not do), NOT because of something that someone decided to do on my behalf without informing me.
 @IndependentOR According to the other passenger on the bus, she wasn't allowed on the bus because she was attempting to ride with expired passes.  The rest of the incident was her response to not getting a free ride.  I doubt that the drivers a required to call in every time someone can't pay the fare...they would be sitting on the phone all the time.  The KATU article from yesterday paints the incident in a much different light. This one is clearly to make TriMet look bad.
I wasn't there, but the witness in the above article seems to indicate the driver did her job. I think it would be pretty hard to deal with that day in and day out.Â
I have to wonder if this bus driver has issues with Hispanic people and that her reactions are motivated toward that end. Granted the tickets were expired and the mother was rude, but there were young children involved. That said it is my understanding that TriMet has a child protective policy in the dark of night: And, by kicking them off of the bus the driver essentially violated that policy. She needs to find other suitable work or get anger management training.Â
 @jallard Are you suggesting that TriMet should let anyone with children ride for free at night?
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From my understanding of the reports, their fares had expired and the woman was being rude to the driver since the driver wouldn't let them on. I am on the side of the driver because you have to have a valid fare. I am a MAX rider and they probably rode the bus with valid fare and got off to do something but when they tried to get back on their previous fares had expired. Plain and simple they needed to purchase another ticket....or....get a monthly pass or all day ticket and you don't need to worry about an expired fare.
I should think by now TriMet would have some quality surveillance cameras on this bus, complete with sound recording so they could monitor or review any complaints about this driver. Cameras don't lie like drivers and passengers do.
The driver *eventually* drops the entire family off at 11 pm at the end of the line? Is that where they wanted to be or did she refuse to drop them off earlier?Â
Sounds like they wanted to go to Cornelius and just got on the bus in Forest Grove at the end of the line. Cornelius is about 3-4 miles away, right next door to FG. What was she doing out so late with her kids anyway.   Suspect that she was trying to use the tickets that got her from Cornelius to FG and they had expired.
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I ride the bus every day and I see both the driver being rude for no justified reason at times, and I see very rude people get on the bus that the driver has to deal with. It seems like there is a struggle for power sometimes, the people getting on the bus upset about schedules and fares, and the driver upset that the passenger is upset with them even though they are doing the best they can and schedules and fares are not their fault or decision. This seems like a power struggle to me and the bus driver won. Both parties need to check themselves.
 @kumitekat I think it is pretty simple.  If you don't pay the fare, you don't get to ride the bus.
I think this written portion of article is pretty one-sided to make a judgement call. People complain all the time and spin the story that holds them in the best light. Witness said the mom was out of control and rude, not the driver. This was the end of the line and these people were "no pays" trying to give the driver expired bus passes. All mom had to do was cough up the cash and refused to do so. This occurred weeks ago and mom is setting up for a cash settlement. Give the driver a break, here.
 @Brownknight I understand what you're saying, but, according to the Oregonian, the mother actually offfered to pay the fare. She told the officer that, and when the officer tried to explain it to the driver, the driver demanded the officer remove them from the bus.
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It's all he said/ she said, until you get a police officer involved. I'd like to compare the two reports- the officer's and the drivers.
 @IndependentOR The officer was not there until the end of the incident.  There was another passenger on the bus...KATU had a  video of him yesterday.  I don't understand the need for this sensationalized version of the story today.
 @Brownknight I agree. If there is a trend to letting people on who haven't paid then that will become a trend and eventually the norm. Either pay up or get off.
If the driver doesn't like what goes on with passengers, then I think she is in wrong line of work. Â Passengers should be respectful and pay the fare, but crying kids cannot always be helped.
Why is this person still working for TriMet???
@paperbob Well, she gets "paid leave" as her punishment. Can't be too bad. When I used to work for someone if I acted like that to a customer I would get "unpaid termination".
Why don't they just make this Bus Driver the G.M. of Tri Met so we don't have to read about the kind of stuff anymore? Can't take too much brains to run an organization that can't meet it's budget.
"Â the incident started after the driver and mother started arguing over the fare."Â
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She probably thought she should be able to ride for free!
See how people act when they get free food, free housing, free utilities, free cable TV,â¦Â Anything else they need or want should come free too, shouldnât it?
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Or it could have been whether or not one of the children was required to pay. Small children do not pay a fair, larger ones do.
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It might be she was trying to get them all without fair and the driver thought she should pay as they would take up lots of space (5 bodies even small ones).
 @Savage_Speaks Bah fair, fare. Maybe they wanted roller coaster rides. Stupid inability to edit comments!
"Stupid inability to edit comments!" I agree, this new stuff sucks!
I'd rather like to thank the FG officer who took the family home.
 @disgustedman I second this, and I appreciate your focus on the positive act.
 @disgustedman Of course you would...........and who has to pay for that? YOU do! What a farce.Â
@Ruthe4401 @disgustedman I don't have to pay for that. I moved out of the area. I don't have to pay that ******* Tri-Met Self Employment Tax anymore either. That was the only tax that I really hated to pay when I lived in the Tri-County area. Does anyone know if Boring Oregon was successful in opting out of the Tri Met Self Employed Tax?
I don't have to pay it either, I'm in Vancouver. I just thought it was a nice thing for FG officer to do and it settled the matter quickly. No fussing, no fighting....
 @disgustedman Oh sure you would.........solves everything for you.......and has absolutely nothing to do with the true problem of having Tri Met drivers advocate for themselves. Just more political BS.........makes me sick.
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I don't blame her for not wanting people crying on the bus. So, maybe this didn't bother other passengers, but they were not the ones driving......it is very difficult to have such distractions while trying to drive and consider the safety of many other passengers. I would rather have some uncontrollable passengers ejected from the bus I was riding on than to place my own life in jeopardy just because it was OK with other passengers that crying did not distract them They were NOT doing the driving. And furthermore, if this mother of 4 had such hyper children and depended on the local transport system all the time, she should have been prepared to pay and board the bus ahead of time as she certainly was aware of what she needed to do long before the bus arrived for her to board in the first place. For the driver to make exceptions for her and upset the boarding process was to her credit.....so, she yelled at the mother for not being prepared....so what? What's the big deal? Stupid mother should have been prepared to begin with........and if she and her 4 kids couldn't tolerate a raised voice repremanding her for her stupidity why should the driver have to suffer ? Â Oh, you say the driver shouldn't be driving at all if she is that sensitive? Well, I would rather have a driver considering the safety of many rather than the few when my own safety is at stake. Perhaps she didn't use the excepted "politically correct" attitude......but who really cares? I'm for the driver.....she did what was best for her and her other passengers safety.....and that mother of 4 can get off her high horse and follow the rules of public transportation rather than expecting them to cowtow to her own instabilities.
 @Ruthe4401 Hopefully someday you will be kicked off the bus and left stranded somewhere, because you know what you would deserve it because I would rather ride the bus with someone who isn't as judgmental as you are, someone who seems to think that they are perfect.Â
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 @HarryJuku If this incompetent bus driver can't handle the job then she needs to be fired, I don't think the crying was as much as a distraction to her driving as it was possibly a distraction from her listening to the voices in her head.Â
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 @HarryJuku I so totally agree.Â
Of the last incident, TriMet spokesperson Mary Fetsch said:
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"99.9 percent of our operators do a great job every day," said TriMet spokesperson Mary Fetsch. "This was a really a rare occurrence. It's an unfortunate incident, but we are taking steps to ensure it doesn't happen again."
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"We took appropriate action," Fetsch said. "We're watching. We did a very thorough investigation and took appropriate disciplinary action."
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Fail.
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This is not just a failure of the TriMet driver, but of TriMet administration who apparently condone such actions. I'm anxious to hear admin's current spin on the lack of customer service, and the absolute validity of their so-called "appropriate disciplinary action." I'm fairly certain that they'll be "taking steps to ensure it doesn't happen again"- for another few months.
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 @Ruthe4401 Hey are you a bus driver?  Or are you the bus driver who likes to kick mothers and their children off of the bus?Â
 @BarbWire No, I am not a bus driver, nor would I ever choose to be one.
@BarbWire @Ruthe4401 Ruthe4401 sure sounds like a bus driver. Very customer service oriented she is. Maybe she should work for an airline as a flight attendent.