Undercover cop answers gun sale post, felon arrested
PORTLAND, Ore. - Portland Police said they arrested a man for trying to sell gun using a post on social media.
Police did not say what social media service 28-year-old Kyle Quinn Culley was using but did say an undercover officer replied to the ad, made contact with Culley about the gun sale and was able to get a search warrant.
Culley was arrested at his residence and is being held at the Multnomah County Jail on four counts of felon in possession of a firearm and unlawful possession of a firearm.
Four weapons including three rifles and one handgun, were seized at the Southeast Portland residence.
Police said Culley may also face federal charges.
What was the felony? The law says a felon may not possess a firearm but, not all felonies are created equal.
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Did he have cocaine residue in his car ten years ago? Was he a passenger in a stolen car at 17 and tried as an adult? Was he convicted of domestic violence or felony assault with a weapon?
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BIG DIFFERENCE!!
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Personally, a non-violent offender who's been "straight" for 10 or so years, should have his rights restored.
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That said, it's nice to see "them" actually enforcing EXISTING gun laws.
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So those commenting below say, "see he was trying to get rid of the weapons and comply with the law"...
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So another felon on that "social media" network sees the add and....... D'OH !
I'm comfortable with Oregon's gun laws and with this sort of operation. The laws are reasonable, but, I would like to hear what other Oregon gun owners think. The hunting rifle in the middle looks like my dad's old Steyr 30.06.
 @Playanekes Personally, I'm tired of hearing what you folks think. A lot of other people are tired of it, too. Maybe it's time for you to pipe down and move along, buddy.
 @Playanekes I agree, may even take it a step further and say that Oregon's laws aren't just reasonable, they're actually down right pretty good.
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That said there are a few problems that need to be addressed in the short term like getting OSP out of the background check business and getting CHL reciprocity with other states.
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Long term there are things that need to be cleaned up like ORS 166.272 and 166.350 need to be repealed, and 166.240 and 166.250 needs to be combined so that 166.260 covers both.
 @ChrisJ82 CHL reciprocity with Washington, Utah and Idaho would be a great start. Most Californians are felons, illegals or liberals and I don't think any of those should have weapons so, all fifty of the responsible Californian gun owners can carry concealed in Oregon as far as I'm concerned.
 @Playanekes  @ChrisJ82 No WAY I want Dianne Fienstein carrying a gun around me. She's proven herself far too ignorant to be safe with a gun - much less dictate gun safety for others.
I want the top two!
 @FreedomRocks What did he do that was illegal?
 @TreeWizard  @FreedomRocks  Apparently the seller was a convicted felon. In most cases, felons are not allowed to possess firearms.
 @Conspirator  @StealthActivist  @FreedomRocks I know. I miss read.
 @TreeWizard  @StealthActivist  @FreedomRocks Possession of a firearm by a felon is a felony.
 @StealthActivist  @FreedomRocks O he was a felon. I thought that was saying the possession of a firearm was. That makes more sense thanks.
Something about this story stinks. If the weapons were his and he was getting rid of them to become compliant with the felon gun laws of this state, then this is crap. If the guns were stolen and he was trafficking in them, then why no additonal charges? I just get the feeling that there is a chunk of this story missing.
oh my friend you are oh so very right ;-)
 @Peregrine exactly, how did they know about him selling guns, I've seen people post guns for sale on facebook before and it's perfectly legal, why did the cop go after him?
 @Drinkers Anonymous  @Peregrine  They may be scanning social media for this type of crime, the same way they look for sex offenders.Â
nope.they use pix of friends you actually know,or of a girl you might have dated back in high school,friend request you and wait.they implant them selfs
 @Peregrine I suspect that when someone is first convicted of a felony, that person is no longer eligible to possess firearms. Having that felon post ads on Craigslist or Facebook to sell what he can't have, isn't permissible. Perhaps the convict's defense attorney can take possession of the firearms, arrange for them to be sold and then turn over the proceeds back to the client?
"Police said Culley may also face federal charges."
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This is their opportunity. If they really want to get tough on guns and affect the people that are breaking the laws rather than punish law abiding citizens this is a good start.
Maybe the moron didn't have his privacy settings to block everyone but friends. In that case his posts would be public to any officer surfing the web. I just searched Google "facebook gun for sale" got tons of results. If his Facebook wasn't blocked and he was already on LE's radar, then they could just sit there and wait for him to do something stupid and post about it. I love the internet, it has the answer to just about any question and billions of people who are too lazy to do anything other than post more questions.
ouch.give me some credit doll lol ....it was set
 @Bobbi Thompson Read on another website that the cops were tipped off by a friend of the guy, they didn't find it themselves.
nope.dont always believe what the media WANTS you to believe
 @Bobbi Thompson Shhh don't tell the idiot criminals how to not get caught!
Another felon with a gun. Imagine that !
 @Rob C 503 Rob. Shocking. More gun laws will totally keep them out of hands of felons... #sarcasm
 @Rob C 503 Apparently he was trying to get rid of them, as opposed to committing a crime with them. If they weren't stolen to begin with, a jury is probably going to say "Well, WTF do you want him to do? Have the guns, or get rid of them?"
 @Playanekes I suspect that when one is first convicted of a felony, that person is immediately ineligible to possess firearms. Perhaps the defense attorney or a friend could take possession of the firearms, sell them, and return the proceeds to the felon but the felon himself or herself should not have any contact with firearms at all.
 @mikew  @Playanekes If convicted and not going directly to prison they do need to be able to legally get rid of them.  The  "give them to his lawyer" is a good idea. Ditto if he takes them to the police or a gun dealer promptly. He can't be charged if he is making efforts to comply with the law, but "promptly" is a key concept. Selling them himself is not prompt enough in my viewpoint. Â
 @Playanekes  @Rob C 503 It doesn't matter...he was a felon in possession of the firearms....who cares if he wanted to get rid of them...he still had em'.
 @Playanekes  @Rob C 503 10-4
 @PD1202  @Rob C 503 Sorry, I wasn't clear. What I'm afraid of is that the professional cop-litigators are going to file a civil lawsuit about how the nice young man was simply trying to comply with the law before he was so BRUTALLY arrested, mistreated and humiliated by the cops; ergo, the force should be on the hook for at least a hundred grand to punish them.I sat on a jury like that and the verdict was fair, but, dayum, it's hard to get some people to come up for air when they're predisposed to hating cops.
A couple years ago I advertised my MAC 90 for sale in the Columbian newspaper. A day after I placed the ad I received an email saying they couldn't allow that kind of gun to be sold in their paper bacause they checked with local LE and found out what it was. Fine! A few weeks later I submitted an ad calling the MAC 90 a Sporter 5.56. Ran ad for 2 weeks, had 2 calls and one visit by undercover LEO. He looked at the gun, stared at the serial number a little longer than normal and made an excuse he had to talk to his gunsmith about the bolt not locking back. Anyway I ended up selling it to someone at work. Previously sold a .45 ACP with no problems or a LE visit.
Now THIS is how to get guns out of the hands of criminals!
 @theprodigal Technically speaking, purchasing the guns would have gotten them out of his hands too.
 @Playanekes  @theprodigal I would not be interested in buy a weapon from a felon.  Playanekes just stop defending a felon with guns.  Just say it ... a felon with a gun... that not only sounds like a bad idea, but a really bad idea.  kinda like the one's that turn people into felons.Â
 @Gregory A. Freemont  @theprodigal I'm not defending a felon with guns and I sure as hell wouldn't buy one from a felon either. I wouldn't buy a gun off of Craigslist or some forum for the same reasons.Â
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You're getting all spun up about a joke.
What is interesting is the lengths law enforcement go to invade into people's privacy in order to enforce the law! They are watching us and collect our data and use it against us. Giant databases are being created in order to track everyone's online activity and to sell it to others. They didn't share the social media company because they don't want people to know that its a spy device!
 @portlandborn83 Read on another website that the cops were tipped off by a friend of the guy, they didn't find it themselves.
 @portlandborn83 So another conspiracy theory....great.  So, your saying that you're ok with this felon having those firearms??  Sorry, but I'm not, and I think that everyone who is a "law abiding citizen" on here as they call themselves would agree.  The goal is to get the guns out of the hands of criminals....bottom line.  Guess what...ever since Myspace and Facebook have been around..they have been used to get and discover information when needed to investigate crimes and or crimes about to be committed.  It's nothing new.  Plus, if you don't want anyone looking at your page..set it to private.
 @PD1202 It's not a conspiracy, its a fact.  You want me to share the websites that sell your data?  Here is one:
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https://www.rapleaf.com/
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Just about anyone can purchase your emails, facebook, twitter, and harvest public records, etc.
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Here's an article:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/209444/surprise_your_facebook_data_is_for_sale.html
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All of social media is a spy device. Everything you post is publicly available without a warrant, if someone knows the tricks to access it. Don't be dumb.
@portlandborn83 No evidence to support the assumption the PPB is scanning everyone's facebook posts. What is more likely is that one of Culley's friends, who knows he is a convicted felon, saw the post and alerted police. The police then sent in someone to buy the guns and arrested him.
@altairPDX --- i don't do facebook, don't believe in it. Why is it necessary to tell everyone every little detail of your life? Good job LE! But wait....where are the evil black guns? Bolt and lever action rifles and an old pistol.
so they weren't even registered to him? thats not surprising
 @Phuzz You don't have to register guns in Oregon.
@Cartman @Phuzz That's a common misconception, people think that all guns are "registered".
@Cartman @Phuzz --- you have to fill out a 4473 form when purchasing a firearm.
 @Playanekes  @brendan  @The Resistance  @Phuzz Maybe if you committed a crime...  But you can sell the firearm to a private party without a transaction record, and it is legal to do so.  They could not pin anything on you.  I'm guessing some dealer was just playing "tough guy" with you.
 @The Resistance Under Oregon law, the Oregon State Police are required to destroy all such transaction records after five years. However, there is no enforcement mechanism so who knows if they actually do it.
 @brendan  @The Resistance  @Cartman  @Phuzz This is correct. When I bought an SKS during the Clinton ban the guy did all the paperwork and assured me that it wouldn't be used against me...but that if the rifle turned up in a crime or something they'd come after him and shred him if he didn't have the record of transaction. Uh... whatever. My desire to commit crimes with it is ZERO so it doesn't matter to me either way.
 @The Resistance  Not sure I agree with that I swear the last 3 I bought they gave a serial number when doing the check. One was a trade in though so it could have been the serial of the one I sold them.
 @The Resistance  @Cartman  @Phuzz Only from a dealer...
the guy was charged with felon in possession of a firearm and unlawful possession of a firearm. as a felon he would have needed to get special permission from a judge or somebody. thats what i was referring to
@brendan @Cartman @Phuzz --- correct and they don't call in serial numbers when doing background checks. Thanks for the clarification.
 @The Resistance  @Cartman  @Phuzz That's a Transaction Record, not registration.
 @Phuzz Where, pray tell, was he going to register it in Oregon? (or anyone for that matter)