Washington could become pot source for neighboring states

PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — Now that marijuana is legal in neighboring Washington state, Portland police are offering some helpful advice to Oregon pot users. Sure, you can go over to Washington state to "smoke some weed," a police advisory states, but you might get arrested for driving under the influence if you're pulled over coming home, even if you're on a bike.
And if you are among the 55,000 people with an Oregon medical marijuana card, Portland police say you'll be able to get your allowed amount of medicine in Washington state. Still, even though you now can't get busted for toking in Tacoma or elsewhere in Washington (though you could get a ticket for public use), it will be a year before selling or buying it is legal.
As the Evergreen state works out the various complications of its new law — including the fact that marijuana is still illegal under federal law — neighbors of Washington are watching with curiosity, and perhaps some apprehension.
If the federal government doesn't attempt to intervene in the new law, and if Washington state sets up a supply system whose mechanics are yet to be defined, Washington may well become a greater source of pot for users in Oregon and Idaho.
"It would be like a place people go to get cheap beer. We're not talking about medical marijuana. We're talking about people who just want to get high," said Josh Marquis, district attorney for Oregon's Clatsop County.
Marquis is not totally opposed to marijuana. He thinks the federal government should do what Oregon has done: decriminalize possession of small amounts, and allow people with genuine medical needs to have access for treatment.
But one of his greatest concerns, echoed by other law enforcement officials, is people going over to Washington to obtain weed and driving home stoned.
"If I'm going to drive on the Oregon coast at night, in the driving rain, I want the person on the other side of the road to be completely unimpaired," Marquis told The Associated Press.
Idaho law officials are also watching what's happening in Washington state. Unlike Oregon, Idaho has no medical marijuana law and possession in any form is against the law. Simple possession of less than three ounces is a misdemeanor, punishable by up to a year in jail and a $1,000 fine.
Idaho officials already have their hands full with Idahoans obtaining medical marijuana cards out of state. The Gem State borders three medical marijuana states, a reality that has caused medical marijuana arrests to outpace those of traffickers or other users.
Although Idaho is a largely conservative state, there are pockets defined by borders and demographics that could create new challenges for law enforcement.
One of them is Moscow, home to the University of Idaho campus and more than 11,000 students — just a 10-minute drive to the Washington State University campus in Pullman. More than 70 miles to the north is the busy suburban corridor connecting Spokane, Wash., and the Idaho cities of Post Falls and Coeur d'Alene.
Idaho police say increased arrests for marijuana could intensify stress on county jails and caseloads for county prosecutors.
Idaho State Police Lt. Chris Schenk, says people in north Idaho are joking about so-called "pot tourists" crossing the border to take advantage of Washington's relaxed law. But he says it's going to take time to gauge any increases in arrests for possession or driving under the influence.
Oregon has some of the most permissive pot laws in the nation. Possession of less than an ounce will get you the equivalent of a speeding ticket. And for those who want to go the legal route, they can get a medical marijuana card.
Still, obtaining pot in Oregon is not without its hassles, in the eyes of some who use it.
Federal drug agents have been cracking down on some medical marijuana pot growers, alleging they shipped pot out of state. There has also been pressure on dispensaries that have sprung up in Oregon that provide medical marijuana for a fee to cover costs of operation.. Law officials in some counties have raided such operations, saying they are selling pot for profit.
If Washington state sets up a pot supply system, it is likely some Oregon holders of medical marijuana cards will go north for their medicine, advocates say.
In Canada, another Washington neighbor, pot is illegal under federal law. Border enforcement of drug laws is stringent, but enforcement for possession for personal use is relaxed. Grass is smoked openly in parks and at pot cafes in British Columbia. Distribution of medical marijuana to patients with needs deemed legitimate through pot dispensaries is also allowed
A spokesman for the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, Sgt. Duncan Pound, said it is too early to predict what effects legalization in Washington will have.
A marijuana advocate in British Columbia, Jodie Emery, worries Canada might intensify border controls because of Washington's weed legalization.
Emery also speculates that legalization in Washington could lessen the flow of people traveling to Vancouver, British Columbia to try some "BC Bud."
"British Columbia does have a lot of tourism for people who want to experience the marijuana culture but that is shifting," Emery said.
Back in Oregon, the tip sheet to marijuana users issued by Portland police states that possession of less than an ounce has been a "low law enforcement priority for 35 years in Portland and this will not change due to the new Washington law."
But the advisory also has this caution: If you go to Washington to "buy some weed," the "Portland Police Bureau cannot predict or control the enforcement activities of federal authorities."
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Contributing to this report were Idaho AP Correspondent Todd Dvorak in Boise and AP reporter Nigel Duara in Portland.
No way! My Oregon Grower is too good to give up and I am legal anyway.
Just wait and see how great this will be for Washington and Colorado. EVERYTHING will get better now -- less crime, more money, all the worries about legalization completely proven wrong.
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That's the real beauty of this. EVERYONE will see that Marijuana simply isn't worth getting worked up about in the least. It's about time!
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And by the way, I haven't smoked pot in 20 years. No plans to either. LEGALIZE.
Hindsight is 20/20.
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Just kidding gize, I'm not against it. :P My employer is DOT-regulated so I'm subject to random UA, but to everyone else, blaze away. Just be responsible.
serioulsy just leagalize it this is going to turn into a huge mess
Oregon Grown all the way
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60 days, not hours. Time distortion?
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That time goes way up if it is an artillery shell that keeps a barrier between the to compounds that only shatters and mixes when fired.
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Pot is a BFD story to me.
I hope that my local American Legion will be able to sell it and have a small smoke shop.
Seems like this is getting a whole lot more publicity than other much bigger issues.
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KATU does not seem to have reported that Syria appears to be loading chemical weapons that must be fired within 60 hours to be effective, which could have worldwide implications. No story about how Boeing EMP weapon, which is profound, just the pot-smoking homosexual liberal union members who developed and successfully tested it this fall.
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Do you know why KATU dwells on pot? Because if you look at the sheer number of comments on a particular subject, it's obvious that the only thing Americans want to talk about up here are gay people, guns, Mexicans and weed.
 @Playanekes sortbait will *love* this-- KATU is addicted to stories about the horrors of legalizing cannabis!  At least I said it before he has.  ];->
Another fine example of journalists that have nothing to write about..... Come on KATU! Stop sensationalizing propoganda from those who opposed a law that was passed by a majority vote! Why have you not written any articles on the potential good this will do? Probably because that wouldn't sell advertising space. I for one will not go to Washington to buy pot! I voted for it to be legal in Oregon because if the truth were ever written about the actual effects of this "weed" on humans vs the effects of alcohol, marajuana would come out better. The only real troble this new legislation will bring has to do with Twinkies......
This might end up being a big boom for Vancouver Businesses considering it's right next to the City of Portland which has a large number of recreational marijuana users. Maybe the tolls on the new CRC bridge can be lowered a little since there will be more people utilizing the new bridge, meaning greater revenue.
 @Orbit Right, Portlanders actually have a reason to use the bridge now  xD
ALL UNITS....BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR A 1974 BUICK OCCUPIED BY AT LEAST 5 HIPPIES TRAVELING SOUTH ON I205 APPROXIMATELY 25 MPH. .CONSIDERED HIGHLY DAZED AND CONFUSED
 @Phuzz Leave them alone. They all served in Vietnam. It's the kids in the Hondas you want to worry about.
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And if you see a stoner in a Subaru, leave him alone. He's all freaked about safety and seems to be able to make car payments so if you DUII him he's just going to end up on welfare. If he's in a Jeep Wrangler, leave him alone because he can't exceed the speed limit and doesn't care if he ends up in the river anyway. That's what the airbags are for.
Good grief is this is going to be entertaining reading for the history majors of the future.
It makes perfect sense that the PPB would focus great attention on catching pot smokers because it meet all their enforcement criteria: safe and easy and doesn't actually benefit the public.Â
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Im lazy, I think I'll get my pot from my neighbor, not a neighboring state.
 @LostSoul This bud's for *you*!  ];->
There is going to be a nice increase in job openings. Â They will be replacing the potheads with employees who value a job over getting high. Â But, I'm sure the potheads will start claiming they are being unfairly targeted. Â Â I hope so. Â Most of them are deadbeats who won't work even if they can. Â We know one thing for sure. Â There won't be much of an increase in the state's coffers from taxing it. Â These bums will just grow their own or as time goes on, buy it from the Mexican drug cartels, who will end up running the show. Â The only reason the potheads use grass is because it's the only way they can pretend to have a worthwhile life. Â We normal people don't need to get high to have one.
@boomer Normal? Just what is "normal" when it comes to humans? We are not machines which are manufactored to a set of specific standards. Calling a selection of people that use marajuana "potheads" only shows your ignorance of humanity! Perhaps you just form your opinions of a "worth while life" from what you see in the news and watch on TV? Worth while would be defined by the person living that life and those immediately effected by that person's life. I would suggest not insulting a group of people just because you don't do some of the same things they do, as technically it could be called a hate crime. Hmmm, boomer? Isn't that a rodent spieces in the same grouping as muskrat and nutria and considered by "normal" people to be a nuisance? Hmm.... How fitting.
@boomer I smoke pot recreationally. I am not a "pothead". I own my own business and while I currently have private sources for my drug of choice, as long as the quality is comparable, I would buy legally sourced (and taxed) pot when available. I assume you also think that people who drink alcohol do so "because it's the only way they can pretend to have a worthwhile life" and you "normal people don't need to drink to have one".
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 @Fed up Fed Well, I thought in this case the crap came out of an orifice much higher up and facing forward most of the time!  But we are definitely in agreement on the amount of crap spewed, whatever orifice it came out of.
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It's going to come down to two factors: Â quality and price. Â We have both in Oregon, so I don't think its going to be a big deal. Â Why would we go to Washington and pay more for the same quality? Â However, if the quality was superior for the same price....there would be the problem.
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Additionally, Â we can just purchase it from medical card holders who go to Washington and legally obtain it for us. Â This is the loophole folks, get it from a card holder.
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I smoke it up and I am not planning on going anywhere to enjoy what I do, there is no need as of now.
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 @portlandborn83 <I realize I'm late to the party . . . but . . . >  I am a med cannabis card holder.  I cannot speak for anyone else, of course, but I only get what I need  for my current condition.  Once that condition no longer needs the benefits that medical cannabis gives me, I will no longer need or want cannabis.  But, I will *never* exchange for someone who is not a card holder!  I know there are those who do-- I've seen several.  I will not.
The scary headlines still? Â Just say that it's going to be awhile before things really get going because the Legislature is "on it" (committees, anyone? Yeah, they'll get it taken care of!). Â Then let things fall where they will.Â
The main effect that this will have is that instead of smuggling the marijuana into the US from Vancouver, B.C., marijuana will simply be sourced from Washington State.
Yes, come to Vancouver from Portland !!! Smoke a bowl, get some fresh ink for one of the many tattoo shops, relax in an Asian Massage Parlor, and if you don't like that, dudes, just marray another dude !!! God bless Vancouver !!!
 @BREAKING NEWS !!! Whaaa?!? ...smoke a bowl, get a tattoo, relax in an Asian Massage Parlor, and if I don't like it just marray another dude???Â
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I'm sure there's some logic in your word-pudding but it escapes me...:-(
@str1ngb3nd3r think they just smoked a bowl
 @str1ngb3nd3r . . . and he'd have to also be a massage therapist or it's a deal-breaker! ];->
 @LostSoul ...well, if he doesn't like it, I hope he finds a dude that'll put up with his new tattoo.
Yes, people will drive from Portland to Vancouver for weed !!! They will also drive from Portland to Vancouver to enjoy all the new Asian Massage Parlors !!!
This topic is a media darling.
"If I'm going to drive on the Oregon coast at night, in the driving rain, I want the person on the other side of the road to be completely unimpaired," Marquis told The Associated Press I would also want the other drivers to be "COMPLETELY UNIMPAIRED" but the number of people who have alcohol in their system (legal to buy and consume in Oregon) is higher by at least tenfold but as soon as someone mentions "Marijuana", the sky is suddenly falling. How ridiculous.
 @scared_citizen Right. You can't drive 30 minutes down the Oregon coast without finding a brewpub, a microbrewery (Pelican) or some roadside seafood-and-beer joint.
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 Hallelujah!  (The Pelican!)  Isn't there still one in Cannon Beach?  It's been a long time since I've been that way, but if my memory (which is what I forget with . . . . ) serves up anything but a brain fart, I think it was called "Captain Bill's" or something.  Can anyone correct me or fill me in about it's existence?Â
There also is a great one (or more, by now!) in Astoria-- The Spotted Dog, on the docks. Â Great beer! Â Decent pub grub. Â Good for a tour, too.
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 @scared_citizen Right. You can't drive 30 minutes down the Oregon coast without finding a brewpub, a microbrewery (Pelican) or some roadside seafood-and-beer joint.
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But the connection between alcohol and bad driving has never been proven.
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And, the DEA has found that alcohol has medical properties so like all other medicinal drugs regulation is left to the state free from Federal interference.
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But, Marijuana and Methamphetamine are Schedule 1 drugs because they have no medicinal properties and they create fiends from regular people so the DOJ takes a great interest in the prohibition of Marijuana and leaves Methamphetamine enforcement to local jurisdictions.