'We have a right and a responsibility to be angry about these deaths'

Ms Burdick;  We'll leave our lawful guns at home every day that YOU meet in halls and buildings with NO armed guards present, no security present and NO SPECIAL LAWS PROTECTING YOU.  Until you live without firearms wrapped around YOU, you will be nothing more than an elitist, a statist, and a menace to the freedoms of the citizens you are supposed to represent.

The one thing that this goverment has forgotten is fundamentals, guns don't kill people, people kill people. Guns can't pull the trigger themselves, people have to pull the trigger.

"In the new year, come back to this building, come back to the state capitol, come back to the halls of Congress and rekindle that anger and put it to use," he added.

 

May I also ask that you guys also use "Logic" when dealing with this. Those "No weapons permitted" signs haven't stopped a single death. Signs such as those only "Encourage" those who WANT to cause massive death to enter as they know that there's little chance that anyone will have a weapon that will oppose them.

I am watching the Obama/Biden "Panel".  Is it a true fact and solution finding panel?  I see Biden, a Gun Control fanatic, Eric Holder, who presided over an operation which ran a gun-running fiasco into a friendly foreign nation, Diane Feinstein, another Gun Control fanatic, etc.  Is their a representative from NRA, DCM, Ducks Unlimited, or any of the Gun Clubs?  NO!  The  Whole panel will present Gun elimination, against the Bill of rights.

Lanza disagreed with school officials (likely Democrats).  The young man in Arizona disagreed with a Democrat who is stated publicly that she owned a Glock.  The young man in the theater shooting had disagreements with the police (likely Democrat voters).  Or with his college (likely Democrat voters).  The professor/shooter had disagreements on a campus (hotbed for Democrats).

Does anyone see a pattern?

And do you notice how the government goes to the press when they have some good news but don't ever say that whatever great thing they just did (like arrest some Medicare fraudsters) is really only one-tenth of the problem - or one-hundredth of the problem?  They leave out the facts and roll with what they have got and the media rolls along like they don't know how to do any deeper investigating. 

And whatever happened to the pivotal event that caused Lanza to flip out?  He had a disagreement with SCHOOL officials - where is the rest of the story?

 

 

About 40 percent of gun purchasers are not background checked. Maybe the NRA should crack down on that if they really care about people being killed. But their answer is to arm school teachers?  

Martin Blanco, 49, a stay-at-home Newtown dad, said the NRA missed a real opportunity to endear residents of Newtown and across the USA with sensible recommendations on gun legislation. Instead, he called their suggestion of putting armed guards in schools "madness."

"Just an awful slap in the face, particularly to the people in Sandy Hook," he said.

"The overwhelming majority of people in this town will find it a foolish, self-serving statement that has no place in Newtown or the United States of America," he said.

Craig Mittleman, 50, a Newtown emergency physician, said he wasn't surprised by the NRA's position but was nonetheless appalled by the brazenness of the comments, especially coming just a week after the incident.  "Completely ludicrous," Mittleman said of LaPierre's suggestion of placing armed guards in schools. "It is an insensitive response at a time like this when there are families I know and have a connection with who have just sustained the greatest loss any human being can ever encounter."

 

When does something amazingly good happen and the media will devote days of reporting it over and over again, interviewing people trying to understand why something so good has happened, who the families are connected to such an amazing person, talk to neighbors, relatives, co-workers and friends, trying to get to the bottom of this act of kindness? NEVER!!! because there's no agenda and no payoff in the ratings, if it bleeds it leads as they say in the media industry. 

The media hasn't be served the people in I don't know how long, they need to report the facts on both sides and leave it up to the people! Career politicians, yes I said career because they are mostly concerned about their own retirement and the lobby job that awaits them after they get done setting up all their perks and benefits are using this opportunity to deflect attention from the fact that they haven't made an decision in years to fix the so called fiscal cliff we're about to dive off. 

I say media stay out of the mind control business and get back to reporting the facts for the people and politcians get back to Washington and start working for the people, you should have a holiday break until you complete your job on the fiscal cliff. Most Americans with jobs can't leave their work for years at a time without being productive or they are fired. Happy Holidays!

Allowing guns or not, it's just part of the whole package and not the only answer. Schools have to be made more secure, and it should start with school policy. Please read this...about a "marine" who decided to post himself in front of the neighborhood school. No one bothered to check him out. What's his agenda??? http://www.bradenton.com/2012/12/20/4323799/marine-veteran-of-iraq-afghanistan.html

Cities are where bullying really takes hold.  If you have ever moved from the country to the city you immediately see it.  Kids bullying each other.  It is because there is a core group of bullies (ex-convicts, for one) who have a wave-like effect on the social interactions. 

"You do as I say, or I will show up and hold a protest on your porch or in front of your business."  I will embarass you and make you afraid to have your own opinion.

This has become the culture of Portland, which is really sad. 

The Democrats don't speak of the gun violence in Mexico because they are pot smokers and don't want anyone interfering with their drugs - apparently.  They sure present a confusing picture to Independents.  They are so falsely emotional about one thing and then, in another related issue they are completely brain-dead and politically inactive.  The problem is that it is obvious. 

50,000 people have died in Mexico in the last few years due to cartel violence (or some other insane figure), but the Democrats continue to support illegals and give them free benefits/incentives via the state and federal government freebie welfare give-away of our tax dollars. 

You can't make this stuff up!

Hmmmm..... "We have a right and a responsibility to be angry about these deaths," Hales said. "Not just mournful, not just prayerful, but angry."

 

Well, Mr Hales, Anger by it's nature is a means to call our bodies and minds to action in response to fear. Anger, lest we forget, is a secondary emotion. That is to say, it is not a predisposed, inherent emotion, but rather a learned response. Specifically, what is learned (taught) is how to respond to our emotion (anger). So, enter the various anti-gun groups, mix in a helping of fear and paranoia (one primary, and yet another learned emotional response), stir well with a healthy dose of sadness (another primary emotion) caused by an unprecidented act committed against innocent children, and VOILLA! You have the perfect emotional recepie for the emotion-based manipulation you hear again and again. 

 

It's kinda sad, really. It's the equivelent of what GW Bush did following the acts of 18 men in airplanes (another unprecidented act) on 9/11. Using the fear, anger and paranoia as justification for invading Iraq. It took time for most people to awaken from their emotional overwhelmed state and actually think about what was being proposed, by the time they did, we had already invaded a soverign nation with no provocation. Leading to the 'patriot act' (an unprecidented invasion into so many different Constitutional protections), and ultimately the deaths of over 4000 US servicemembers, and 40,000 Iraqi citizens. 

 

It's truly sad to me that we as a nation have become so bogged down in emotional manipulation as a means to persue goals. Groups and individuals routinely use press and wordplay, startling statistics and heart-wrenching imagery to effect change rather than presenting logical, cohesive arguments and allowing people to consider points of view before choosing a course of action. I suppose it's demonstrative of the times in which we live. Demonizing and rhetoric have replaced information and thought. 

 

Unfortunately, I don't see it changing dramatically anytime in the near future. Not to put too fine a point on it, but it's just further evidence (to me) that the US (as a society) is in decline. Those with money, power and influence  have lost any shame at using PR and psychological manipulation as a means to effect the changes they want to happen. It is not an unprecidented action of mass control by a government, just different in it's application and means. The end result, however, will undoubtedly be the same.

 

 

 

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

-George Santayana 

 

"The vigil was part memorial, part political statement."No. It was 100% political statement.

Because Democrats milk every situation - more drama, more sad tears and more protests.  Try working with them in a union.  They are all about emotion - and yet accuse the Republicans of being driven by emotions.

They can't admit they are the very thing they claim is backward. 

Regardless of a person's views on gun control, couldn't this vigil simply be a memorial to those we lost rather than a political statement?  A vigil should be about the victims and paying our respects as we collectively mourn.  I'm sure there are those who disagree with me, and I'm all for a national debate on these matters; I'm just uncomfortable that it takes place at a vigil. 

Very tragic.  However, what about all of the kids in the inner cities around the country who die every day at the hands of criminals?  Why do we knee-jerk react and try to disarm law abiding citizens and not the criminals?  I'm not even talking about the mentally ill yet.  Why do the everyday street thugs get a pass on their violent thug lifestyle but law abiding 9-5 gun owners get demonized?  It seems that one group follows the law, gets training, background checked, willingly fingerprinted but is somehow the bad guy.  Why?

They will surely try attempt a gun grab on law biding Americans but will still do nothing about criminals in places like Chicago, NYC and Washington, DC.  Oh snap that's right...all of the convicted felons there are Obama voters.

Why don't the Democrats do anything definitive about border security or  cartels?  Because they are too afraid.

They want the Republicans do to everything that requires any intestinal fortitude. 

 

Yes, Okamoto should know about violence since the Japanese used to lop off heads with their swords.

I'm tired of Democrats and their predictable hysteria which has nothing to do with reality and everthing to do with their "agendas".

They are a real kick.

Why aren't they hysterical about blacks killing each other in gang warfare in Chicago?  Because they might make blacks mad? 

What jokers. 

"We lose this many children to gun violence in America every two days."That's one of those statements that people make that's not instantly verifiable.How many children do we lose to car accidents? Illness? I think we need to ban cars and disease, too. So we don't have to add shoes to the visual demo.

http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2012/june/crimes_061112/crimes_061112

 

Notice, that's the FBI site folks.  Not some biased left or right new article, the stats are the stats. 

 

Crime in the US is down for yet another year, and gun ownership is still skyrocketing!  

Some articles have said the crime rates are up, murders are up, and of course there are more guns out there, so there ya go.  

Problem is, it's NOT TRUE.  Those articles LIE.

 

Where are the Crowd Pictures:)

 

What is needed is personal responsibility and morals. You can't legislate either one of those.

Gun laws certainly need to be adjusted because the guns of the future are going to be more powerful and deathly. Guns will not only shoot bullets but zap people. We also need to use the various security equipments and gadgets to protect ourselves and family.  http://x.co/r6SM

For those who believe in gun control and what it will bring why not ask people how that worked out in Germany under Hitler, or North Korea under Kim Jung Il, or Pol Pot in Cambodia, or Mao Tse-Tung in China, or Idi Amin in Uganda. Do you need more examples to understand that taking away guns isn't the answer. For those of you who want to take away guns why not go to a city where they have strict gun control and when there, make sure that you are forever watchful as crime is going to be higher there.  I don't know what you are smoking but gun control isn't the answer...perhaps we as a country need to start taking better care of one another and identifying those who are mentally ill and helping them rather than throwing them out on the street or putting them with others who aren't able to help them. Once we do that, we won't have to worry about the guns.  Let's fight the evil element in this country and stop the real problems.  If you want gun control move to China or North Korea and let me know how that works out for you.

To those like minded individuals out there who envision a day when this country will be gun free....start wtih the children....start with those who haven't been corrupted by the fear and paranoia of the older generation. The people on here who preach about the glory and freedom afforded by guns are part of a dying ideology and they will NEVER change......eventually they will be culled from the herd through etrition and replace by those who have grown beyond them....in the meantime they will spew their shallow arguments....make their bold statements about the enemies of freedom...blah blah blah....but in time their rhetoric will find itself shelved along with the rhetoric of the pre-civil rights days in this country....a reminder of how long and hard the road is to social progress....they are dinosaurs on the verge of extinction....they know it....and they're scared to death.

we just need to start posting high resolution photos of gunshot victims....especially children....and why not? the pro-life crowd sees nothing wrong with walking around with poster sized photos of aborted fetuses....let's throw it right back in the faces of the gun crowd....show what an exit wound looks like....what brains look like when they've been blown out the back of someone's skull....show just how much blood comes pours out of a body when it's been riddled with bullet holes....Hollywood just can't do justice to the REAL horror that a madman with a high powered rifle can create.