White supremacist planning compound in Northern Idaho
SPOKANE, Wash. (AP) - A disciple of former Aryan Nations leader Richard Butler wants to build a new compound in northern Idaho to act as a gathering place for white supremacists, a development that troubles human rights groups who spent decades battling Butler and his group.
Shaun Winkler, who unsuccessfully ran for sheriff of Bonner County earlier this year, said a supporter is donating 8 acres near the town of Priest River, Idaho, that he hopes to develop into a place for white supremacists to conduct meetings, cross burnings and other activities.
"I'm just one guy that wants to bring people together to continue the struggle for white survival," Winkler, 33, told The Associated Press this week.
Butler's high-profile Aryan Nations activity tainted northern Idaho's image nationally, and local civil rights groups were wary of a potential new hub for racist activity.
"Our work has to go on to promote equality and justice and fairness," said Tony Stewart, a leader of the Kootenai County Task Force on Human Relations. Human rights groups, including the Southern Poverty Law Center, at this point are just raising awareness. There are no active efforts to try to thwart Winkler.
The task force and the Southern Poverty Law Center combined to push a civil lawsuit that bankrupted the Aryan Nations in 2000, leading to the sale of the original compound. Butler died in 2004.
Winkler declined to identify his benefactor, other than to say he was a former Los Angeles police officer who had supported Winkler's bid for sheriff. Aryan Nations was structured as a church of the white supremacist Christian Identity religion, and Winkler said the new compound will include a church hall for services and places for supporters to live.
Winkler, who works as a logger, originally planned the compound on 17 acres of nearby land he purchased last year. But money woes have pushed that purchase toward foreclosure.
Winkler described himself as an imperial wizard in the White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, and said the compound will operate under a flag of the KKK, rather than Aryan Nations.
"This is an early step," he said. "It's not going to happen overnight."
He considers himself a white separatist, who believes people of different races should live segregated lives.
"We aren't here to kill anybody. We aren't here to cause harm to anyone," Winkler said. "We just don't want nothing to do with their society."
Bonner County, like much of the rest of the region, has a population that is overwhelmingly white - about 96 percent of the 40,000 residents.
Winkler studied the racist Christian Identity religion under Butler. He has continued to live in the area, sometimes hosting cross burnings on his land and protesting the presence of Hispanics and other minorities. Winkler has picketed Mexican food carts in nearby Coeur d'Alene, and protested the annual Martin Luther King Jr. events at North Idaho College in January.
Butler for nearly three decades operated out of a 20-acre compound that became a gathering place for white supremacists. He held annual meetings that drew hundreds of supporters.
The land was auctioned off after he lost a lawsuit in 2000 brought by the SPLC on behalf of a woman and her son who were terrorized by Butler's security guards during one of those annual meetings.
Shaun Winkler, who unsuccessfully ran for sheriff of Bonner County earlier this year, said a supporter is donating 8 acres near the town of Priest River, Idaho, that he hopes to develop into a place for white supremacists to conduct meetings, cross burnings and other activities.
"I'm just one guy that wants to bring people together to continue the struggle for white survival," Winkler, 33, told The Associated Press this week.
Butler's high-profile Aryan Nations activity tainted northern Idaho's image nationally, and local civil rights groups were wary of a potential new hub for racist activity.
"Our work has to go on to promote equality and justice and fairness," said Tony Stewart, a leader of the Kootenai County Task Force on Human Relations. Human rights groups, including the Southern Poverty Law Center, at this point are just raising awareness. There are no active efforts to try to thwart Winkler.
The task force and the Southern Poverty Law Center combined to push a civil lawsuit that bankrupted the Aryan Nations in 2000, leading to the sale of the original compound. Butler died in 2004.
Winkler declined to identify his benefactor, other than to say he was a former Los Angeles police officer who had supported Winkler's bid for sheriff. Aryan Nations was structured as a church of the white supremacist Christian Identity religion, and Winkler said the new compound will include a church hall for services and places for supporters to live.
Winkler, who works as a logger, originally planned the compound on 17 acres of nearby land he purchased last year. But money woes have pushed that purchase toward foreclosure.
Winkler described himself as an imperial wizard in the White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, and said the compound will operate under a flag of the KKK, rather than Aryan Nations.
"This is an early step," he said. "It's not going to happen overnight."
He considers himself a white separatist, who believes people of different races should live segregated lives.
"We aren't here to kill anybody. We aren't here to cause harm to anyone," Winkler said. "We just don't want nothing to do with their society."
Bonner County, like much of the rest of the region, has a population that is overwhelmingly white - about 96 percent of the 40,000 residents.
Winkler studied the racist Christian Identity religion under Butler. He has continued to live in the area, sometimes hosting cross burnings on his land and protesting the presence of Hispanics and other minorities. Winkler has picketed Mexican food carts in nearby Coeur d'Alene, and protested the annual Martin Luther King Jr. events at North Idaho College in January.
Butler for nearly three decades operated out of a 20-acre compound that became a gathering place for white supremacists. He held annual meetings that drew hundreds of supporters.
The land was auctioned off after he lost a lawsuit in 2000 brought by the SPLC on behalf of a woman and her son who were terrorized by Butler's security guards during one of those annual meetings.
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I'd vote to set aside 1000 acres in northern Anywhere and just give it to them if they'd secede from the Union and form their own little fascist state and SHUT THE FOCK UP!
@Old29 .....could we do that with the American Black Muslims and the Black Panthers too ???
Will Clayton Bigsby be a guest speaker at the Grand Opening?
I have visions of so many folks that comment on this message board packing their bags.
Although I despise these organizations and think their a blight on our society, I see no laws being broken here. This isn't news. Hopefully the good people of Idaho will make it too uncomfortable for this hate group to take root again and solve this locally.
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 @Fed up Fed  @DeaconBugg I appreciate your reply. You make a valid point. They certainly are a group to keep an eye on. I appreciate groups like the SPLC that do just that.
My co-worker is from Sandpoint.
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I wonder what he thinks of his county being the hub of white supremacists in Idaho.
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@Repoman .....has been for decades.
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 @RalphCramden Been reading those loony Ron Paul newsletters from the 90's?
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You know who consumes nearly all of the welfare dollars in the United States? Poor people - that's who they are meant for. So if 13% of the population consumes 40% of the welfare that means that that 13% is disproportionately poor compared to the general population. If they were bent on starting a war, they would have done so already.
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I'm not up on Ron Paul. Who is he?
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The blacks did start a war. Only we call them riots.
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Most of the major riots since the 1990 have all been mostly blacks
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1991: Crown Heights riot (Crown Heights neighborhood, Brooklyn, New York)
1992: Los Angeles Riots (Los Angeles, California): In a reaction to the acquittal of all LA police officers involved in the videotaped beating of Rodney Kingand the murder of Latasha Harlins; riots broke out mainly involving black youths in the black neighborhoods and shop owners in Korean neighborhoods, but overall riotiing was mainly to get out the frustrations of the racial groups over the racial tensions that were building in the South Central Los Angeles area for sometime[citation needed].
1996: St. Petersburg Riots (St. Petersburg, Florida): After Officer Jim Knight stopped 18 yr. old Tyron Lewis for speeding, his car lurched forward causing Knight to fire his weapon, fatally wounding the black teenager. Riots broke out and lasted for about 2 days.
2001: Cincinnati riots (Cincinnati, Ohio): In a reaction to the acquittal of Steven Roach after the fatal shooting of an unarmed young black male, Timothy Thomas, during a foot pursuit, riots broke out over the span of a few days.
2003: Benton Harbor riots (Benton Harbor, Michigan)
2005: 2005 Toledo Riot (Toledo, Ohio): A race riot that broke out after the Neo-Nazi protest marched through a black neighborhood.
2006: Fontana High School riot (Fontana, California): Riot involving about 500 Latino and black students[50]
2006: Prison Race Riots (California): A war between Latino and black prison gangs set off a series of riots across California[51][52]
2008: Locke High School riot[53] (Los Angeles, California)
2009: 2009 Oakland Riots (Oakland, California): Peaceful protests turned into rioting after the fatal shooting of an unarmed black man, Oscar Grant, by a BART transit policeman.
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Expect some serious riots once the entitlement money runs out.
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What is this obsession you have with Ron Paul?
 @RalphCramden Actually, no. The word "racist" still has a meaning. Someone who can write "The blacks did start a war" is a racist. You are distorting facts so that they fit your prejudice and then you assign moral values to people based on their race rather than their moral characters as individuals. That's racist, and whining about being called out as a racist does not change that. The only thing that will change it would be for you to expand your horizons.
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And when is the collapse coming? According to Ron Paul, it was going to happen in the late 90's when the $100 was redesigned. And then it was the dotcom collapse. And then it was the financial crisis. And then it was Obama's election. And then it was the Stimulus bill. And then it was the passage of Obamacare. And then it was Obama's re-election. And then it was...
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Oh crap. You used the "racist" word. That word is so worn out it means nothing. It's a joke and the last resort of those who have no argument.
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Time to grow up and try a real dialog. It's no wonder we are going over the fiscal cliff. I am thankful that I moved my business out of the country. I won't have to pay for al the insanity.
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Are you ready for the collapse and the social chaos to follow?
 @RalphCramden  @Max Quinn Gotta get out of the basement, Ralph. First, that's not a war - don't water down words to try and make a point.
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Police killing unarmed people have caused tensions - that these incidents lead to riots is not surprising. However, the riots are not acts of war. Throw in some ethnic tensions and you still don't get a war.
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The only people anticipating a "race war" after some fiscal crisis are the closeted racists like yourself who have been wringing their hands over the coming race war for decades - it's always just around the corner. Stop being such a coward. Go out and meet some black people. You'll survive. Otherwise, sounds like there's a new housing development going up in Idaho you might want to look into.
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Now there you go. You actually stated a correct fact that can be backed up.
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Then you revert to an insult. Try to be an adult here and have a credible and meaningful dialog without reverting to the 4th grade playground insults.
@RalphCramden The illegals will be too busy working to fight the white/black entitlement community.
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@Fed up Fed .........ever heard of the Black United Fund of Oregon? There isn't a White United Fund.
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It all depends on the person doing the stats which is what I am all about. Fell free to dispute my facts listed below. They are from the US government and I have posted a link for you to verify my stats.
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Black only represent 13% of the population but consume 40% of the welfare dollars.
Whites represent 78% of the population and consume 38% of the welfare dollars.
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This means that there is a much higher percentage of blacks on welfare than there is whites by a factor of 6.
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You can go to this US government web site and get all the "racist" facts. Lots of stuff that is clearly "racist" in nature since it is really making blacks look bad compared to other races. Asians by the way are the the least likely to be on welfare. Another "racist" fact.
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html
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In numbers there are more white folks who collect welfare since there are just more of them. This is an "accounting" trick that liberals, those who want to avoid the truth and those who are easy to fool use all the time. Most of the folks who keep quoting that so called "fact" are really pretty ignorant and are just too lazy to do some homework and fact checking.
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So keep spreading your mistruths. The idiots will buy into it all day long. But those of us who know the truth will call BS on your posts every time.
@Fed up Fed .....I would think that someone who has those credentials, if true, could hold a civil, decent conversation without losing their temper and result to the vile name calling you used. As Ralph suggested..... Wanna be taken seriously? Try and stay away from "ignorant hack" "cork on the end I'd your fork" Nah, you can go back and look at your posts. I suspect you know better and are just angry and bitter.
@RalphCramden .......you're fighting a losing battle with fed. He is the epitome of what is wrong with our society and why it is spinning out of control.
 @RalphCramden  @Fed up Fed You missed this in statistics class: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation
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Boy, the ignorance is astounding.
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SS is a separate trust fund that was designed to invest the SS contributions. We are forced to pay into it but not forced to pay for welfare. That comes out of the general taxes.
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The US government has borrowed all the SS trust fund money and the largest creditor the of the US is the SS trust fund. The US government has to pay back all that money, unless of course they decide not to which the SCOTUS, in 1960, says that they are allowed to back out if they so choose.
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The link I gave is a general link and all the data is in there if one chooses to search the data bases.
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What is the National Review, the Hoover Institute, the Heritage Foundation and that the hell is a Cato?
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I read economic reports, technical journals, legal briefs, and Popular Science on occasion.
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I can't rely on the census? So what you are saying is that government is unreliable. I agree and have know that for decades.
So when your argument runs out, you insult??
Go ahead and enjoy being the victim. With your attitude, you always will be!
Fed.................or could it just be that Lyndon Johnsons Great Society created and promoted generational welfare that the black people of this country have felt entitled to.Â
Since the Civil War???? Jesse Jackson and AL Sharpton have done more to enslave the black community then Abraham Lincoln. And for their own personal enrichment, I might add.
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It's clear that you didn't want to read the link that shows who gets what all from the federal government. You stats and the federal stats do not even come close. I will side with the federal government stats.
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Here was go with the civil war. That is such a worn out excuse and just doesn't fly anymore.
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SS is not an entitlement. We are all forced to pay into it and told that once we reach a set age we can get a payout. How is that an entitlement.
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I am someone that rejects inaccurate statements and takes credible stats and shows folks where they have gone astray.
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Most of them, like yourself, reject the facts and then call people that present them "racists". Because of the overuse of the word "racist" it means nothing. I see people joke back and forth calling each other racist and then laugh about it. The word is now a joke.
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You have been indoctrinated well and your handlers should be proud.
Whatever. Apparently the zit faded monkeys haven't ODed on meth or died of AIDS yet. If they want to shave their heads and goose-step around in their little Hitler poop-stain mustaches until they die off from continued inbreeding, I suppose that's their prerogative.
this wouldnt be a problem if they were black
@LostSoul or Martian, or lizard people. Do you happen to know of such a mythical place?
@Playanekes Yes- its on URanus
@LostSoul You're clearly adept at making stuff up even as everybody recognizes is as pedestrian values of total bull hockey. Hmm. Maybe that's why the Republicans didn't get the landslide victory we were promised.
Not a story and never will be if irresponsible media doesn't draw attention to it. The land hasn't even changed hands yet. This is the pipe dream of one 33 year old. Headline should be "Poor White Hatemonger Running Mouth Again"
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 @SerenityWowz white people in south africa used to think that as well, now they are being butchered.Â
"We aren't here to kill anybody. We aren't here to cause harm to anyone," Winkler said. "We just don't want nothing to do with their society." Isn't he just a sweetheart? I bet land's cheaper up in the Yukon, say, where he and his benefactor don't have to have much to do with anyone and he can practice his imperial wizardry in peace.
@medborgare basically, he's upset that minorities are taking away his entitlements.
How can you have so little to do that picketing Mexican food carts seems like a good use of time?
@Max Quinn Apparently it's easier for a "superior" person to picket a food cart than to get a job. Ain't it a shame that his "superiority" gets foreclosed on? After all, nothing says "dominance" like getting foreclosed on in the real-estate heaven that is northern Idaho.
Don't they have enough already?