Insurance stalls removal of Oregon man's 70-pound tumor

PENDLETON, Ore. (AP) — Scot Jacobson has his own personal Mount Everest to climb — and he must make the trek carrying more than 500 pounds of body weight and a basketball-sized tumor named Wilson.
The Pendleton man faces two separate surgeries that may or may not save his life.
First, his surgeon must perform a gastric bypass, shrinking Jacobson's milk jug-sized stomach to a narrow sleeve. Then, after Jacobson loses some weight, the 50-to-70-pound tumor can be removed in a separate surgery.
It is risky business, Jacobson knows. He and his wife, Clare, clearly see the steep path ahead.
The first hurdle is simply paying the cost of the $18,000 gastric bypass, not covered by his insurance policy. They have to find about $6,000 before Feb. 22.
Earlier this week, the social worker and father of eight sat in a recliner in his living room explaining how he ended up in such a mess. Clare sat nearby, casting loving and worried looks at her 50-year-old husband. Their three adopted boys, brothers of 12, 13 and 14, sat on the periphery, playing with a trio of family dogs.
Scot is naturally upbeat, almost Pollyannish given his circumstances, but admits staying positive sometimes takes an iron will. He sat folded into a recliner, his sweatpants stretching to cover his bulk. "Wilson," the melon-sized tumor named after a volleyball toted around by Tom Hanks in the movie "Cast Away," hung down from Scot's abdomen.
"I've always been heavy," Jacobson said. "There isn't a diet I haven't tried."
His appetite doesn't explain his bulk, Clare said. When the couple diets together, she loses weight while he gains, even at 1,200 calories a day.
"People don't know how maddening it is to hardly eat and still gain weight," Scot said.
He doesn't go out much these days except for his job at the Community Action Program of East Central Oregon, where he manages the volunteer services program. Going out in public is painful.
"People stare and make comments," he said.
He sees what they see in his own mirror, but said "it hurts" when he sees the judgment in their eyes. Scot said doctors nagged him about getting more exercise and reducing calories. Finally, last year, his new endocrinologist suspected something more.
"She did tests and explorations and found thyroid cancer," he said.
The thyroid was removed, but then Wilson appeared in early September. Scot's situation grew dire.
An Oregon Health & Science University surgeon pondered Scot's predicament and decided operating was just too risky. After the hospital's high-risk surgery committee reviewed the case, Clare said, the surgeon changed his mind. The gastric bypass and the removal of Wilson would have to happen in two separate surgeries, several months apart.
Clare said the surgeon's initial hesitation might have been partially fueled by a previous failed gastric bypass surgery in 2007 in Tri-Cities.
"The surgeon came out to the waiting room and said we couldn't do the gastric bypass," Clare said. "He said, 'My associates are sewing him back up.' He was afraid Scot would bleed to death."
OHSU has a different process that is Scot's only hope, the couple said. They know the dangers — the surgeon isn't candy-coating the risk — but Clare and Scot say they are at peace.
"Scot said to me, 'I have my faith. I'm not afraid to die,'" Clare said. "It comforts me to know that."
The immediate problem is scraping together the funds. Scot emptied savings and retirement accounts and sold vehicles to afford the failed bypass. They have only $8,000, despite his salary and Clare's job as customer service supervisor at Banner Bank. Friends convinced Scot to let them organize fundraisers and start a bank account.
Organizer and friend Peggy Ruiz said their reason for helping Scot is simple: the Jacobsons' three adopted sons.
"God didn't give those boys a new dad just so they could lose him," Ruiz said.
It took some convincing for Scot to finally accept assistance.
"I know how hard it was for Scot to admit, 'I need help,'" Ruiz said. "He's a very humble man who's always willing to give of himself to others."
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Information from: East Oregonian, http://www.eastoregonian.info
Copyright 2013 The Associated Press
Are they sure he didn't just eat a basketball? He looks like he ate everything else. How does a tumor get to be 70 lbs.? And how repulsive is it that he named it? I'm thoroughly skeeved.Â
I really hate to say it but I agree with you.
When the tumor was around 20 lbs, shouldn't something have been done?
There's been health care cost increases for who knows how long and people are only now complaining about it. Whether Obamacare is there or not, the increase will happen regardless. I say go the alternative route. Seek eastern medicine or other naturopathic sources to heal. It's better in the long run. Don't neglect western medicine either though. You have to be smart when it comes to your health.. Certain situations call for certain rememedies. Just think it through real good. Stay aware.
Problem with the obamacare is that a lot of people who can afford it will not be able to because their premiums will skyrocket so the deadbeats who voted obama into office are covered. Â The death panels are more likely to deny coverage to those who voted against obama than those who did. Â Gotta take care of your supporters.
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This is NOT Obamacare. one way or the other. According to the article, his procedure and care were pressured by his medical condition along with financial considerations. When it comes to actual health care, money should be the least of the considerations. It should also be pointed out that we don't know who this person voted for and statistically, considering the area he lives in, there is a greater chance he voted Republicon.
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At least with the ACA, insurance companies are required to spend a certain percentage of your premiums on actual health care. I am betting 10 years from now, we'll all be wondering why the ACA was so controversial.
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Its the weight of the man that is stalling the surgery.......
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I'm quite surprised he's getting the GB surgery at that weight. I guess  given his circumstances, the normal downsides/risks  really do not apply. Â
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 @kramr He could lose 70 pounds pretty fast.
I work in the healthcare field, often dealing with insurance companies. Â If you think for one minute they care in any way about the outcome of a patient's medical care or whether the patient lives or dies, then you also believe BP and Exxon care how your car runs. Â They're in it for money, period. Â A patient's death cuts their losses. Â In my job I watch daily as insurance companies deny benefits recommended by physicians in even the most dire cases. Â Quite possibly the greatest thing Hospice provides is free pain meds for those who are terminally ill. Â Why? Â Because insurance companies deny paying for the strongest pain meds, forcing the patient to try to "get by" with something cheaper for a month or two to "see if it works". Â When a doctor prescribes Oxycontin for severe cancer pain and an insurance company insists on Vicodin....think about if it was your mother. Â Private insurance companies are the "death panels" Sarah Palin warned of, only they've been in existence for decades. Â Â
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 @kramr Thanks for thinking of me!  *wink*  Flipping through to get to #14 made me incredibly hungry!
@Sundowner    Gotta say, sure wish there were more things on that list that sounded yummy to me. I probably could get by with less exercise....
 @Sundowner aint that the truth, especially after how they treated my grandmother in the last years of her life....freaking A... and I thought death panels were conspiracy crap...well it happened to my grandmother.
@Sundowner    """""" In my job I watch daily as insurance companies deny benefits recommended by physicians in even the most dire cases""""""
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Just wait for a few years of BarryCare runs way over budget...... you will see cuts like you've never seen before.
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 I have a distant family member that was horribly burned in England, Instead of trying to save his life the doctor's just figured he would die from his injuries(didn't want to waste the money on a patient with a good chance of dying)  and kept him in an induced coma waiting for him to die..... well being a healthy young man he didn't die and now has severe life long challenges (he's now stuck in a chair) that most likely would have never happened in the US. If a private company in the US had given him tha crappy of care, they would have been sued for millions and lost.  He would most likely be a completely healthy man today if he had gotten his care in the US.
Ever notice there are quite a few hospitals on the US side of Canada that serve many Canadians....... every wonder why that is?????Â
 @kramr Ever notice that, in many cases, the outcomes are statistically better in countries - including Canada - that have socialized medicine than we do here in the US? Ever notice how many medical bankruptcies there are in countries other than the US? Ever notice how we pay far more for healthcare than most other 'modern' countries? If you look at metrics comparing healthcare outcomes in the US with similar circumstances in many other countries, you will find we do not rank as high as you seem to think. When you add cost in as a factor, it gets worse. Clearly, we pay more and, in many cases, get less care.
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Everyone has the "I know a guy story". Having traveled to both UK and Canada, I know a guy who actually got good health care in Canada. I know a  guy who actually got good health care in the UK too. You don't care about success stories in those systems. You have your 'I know a guy' story.
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No one can predict the outcome of any one medical circumstance that did not happen. There is no way to know if the person would have survived under other circumstances as you suggest.Â
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The fact is that the doctors in the UK had no visible financial stake in whether they treated the man or not. Based on that, why would they not treat him? I think that is the point. Here in the US, the death panels Sarah Palin warned us about are here and have been for years. They are called insurance actuaries. They provide treatment and allow people to die based solely on cost considerations. They hire doctors whose job it is to help the company avoid providing treatment. Profit is more important than health care. After all, these insurance companies need to  provide quarterly reports to the shareholders who expect to get paid.
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Why is the headline and the story totally different? Â Liberal bias, most likely.
After 15 months of getting exercise, eating smaller portions and getting off all the Rx drugs the Doctors had me on I have lost about 130lbs. I am still losing wieght slowly and am almost at my end goal. About another month and I should weigh what I did when I got out of Basic Training at Fort Benning. He may have had medicalreasons for gaining the weight but the thing about the Gallon sized stomach kind of erases a lot of any sympathy I would have for him. There is only one way to do that and it is by constantly being over filled, he has to take responsibility for his own health and do what he needs to lose the weight in a natural way. The human body is an amazing machine and will repair itself if taken care of.
 @swede760 As the story said, he has worked for quite some time now to get healthy, including dieting.Â
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Also, a gallon is about what a human stomach holds. The measurement was used to give people something they can relate to size-wise.
 @Jenni S. Over the last year I have worked at losing wieght as if my Life depended on it because it did. He should obviously be doing something more or different. Stomach size adjusts over time, I should know, I can not eat half of what I used to even if I try to force myself. You can not just cut down on calories and expect to lose wieght, you have to exercise regardless of pain or discomfort. There are many good reasons why we gain wieght but there are No excuses for staying morbidly obese other than being too lazy to do what needs to be done. This guy needs to change his attitude and get busy on his own and stop waiting for the Doctors to solve his problem.
 @swede760 Gee did you also have Thyroid Cancer  and a tumor you are an amazing person who apparently is a legend in your own mind. Â
 @BarbWire Nice to see you only know how to throw insults, it shows your maturity and intelligence level, no Cancer, just extreme chronic pain, from work related injuries that will never go away. My point is that I am not unique and if I can drop 130 lbs in about 15 months then anyone can if they need to. I would think that in his case he would be working out 18 hours a day to try to save his own life. If what I am saying is not politically correct too bad it is truth.
I hope this family is able to raise the funds needed to get Mr.Jacobson these much-needed surgeries. My thoughts and prayers go out to him and his family.
The headline said Insurance Company but the aritcle only spoke to the Doctors & Hospital making the call. Either the headline is wrong or they failed to connect the reasoning for the decision to a policy/call on the Insurance companies part.
 @Derrick I think the insurance wouldn't pay for either surgery (or only paid a portion of the first). The surgeon determined s/he couldn't continue due to the risks involved and had to stop. That is resulting in needing yet another additional surgery not covered by insurance. So, the headline is, technically, correct. It just takes its own sweet time getting there, lol.
We are a middle class family, married with 2 children, my wife and I make about 80K per year. We just converted to the 3rd health care provider in the last 4 years and not by choice. We use to have affordable health care, and we had the same provider for 17 years prior to that. I just had a "health screening" that was required by this new health care provider. I am also currently 50 lbs overweight, but I have also lost 30 lbs in the last 6 months. The new health care provider has now raised our rates because of this. I can see why Obama himself no longer referrs to this as the "affordable" care act. It is not. We are all about to find this out what a serious finiancial crisis we are about to encounter. I give this 3 more years.....
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One more time...the Affordable Care Act hasn't even kicked in. Â Your healthcare provider is raising your rates because they want more money. Â Stop blaming the government for the greed of a private health provider. Â That's just stupid. Â In point of fact, the Affordable Care Act will forbid discrimination in healthcare pricing starting in 2014, so this is the OPPOSITE of the effect "Obamacare" will have on healthcare premiums (http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2012-11-26/pdf/2012-28428.pdf). Â Jeebus, turn off Fox News and abre los ojos, por favor.
 @Diogenes Apparently you haven't paid attention to what is going on with the unaffordable health care act.  Parts of it have kicked in, do your research!  As a result, there are more services that are not covered.  Also you say to not blame the government for the greed of the private health care providers, you are right about the greed part, but the rate increases, of, at least Regence Blue Cross Blue Shield of Oregon, was approved by the government, so yes they can be blamed! Â
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That just means everyone else will pay a bit more in premiums. If premiums can't be based on risk, then the entire insurance pool will be paying for the higher risk patients.
 @katufanman The highlight of my health screening this year was that for the first time I hit below the BMI 'limit'.  My insurance rates, therefore, remained the same.  No offense whatsoever, but some of the responsibility for your rate increase lies with you.  My real advice to you would be "get yourself a sweet young(er) love interest and you won't be able to sleep or eat for months".  Otherwise, you can lose weight reasonably as you've done, so keep up the good work.
All he has to do is wait until 2014. ObamaCare will take care of all his medical problems.
Insurance companies are in business to maximize shareholder wealth. The way to maximize shareholder wealth is to increase revenues (premiums) and minimize expenses (paid claims).  They are not in business to fund healthcare...that is NOT what they are in business to do.
 @oh4FS Exactly, which is why they despise the new healthcare law that forces them to hold up their end of the bargain. No more "We'll take your money each month, but don't get sick cause we're not paying" garbage that that they've been pulling for FAR too long.
I don't mean to sound uncaring here.. but I am rather focused on the statement that his stomach is stretched to the size of a gallon milk jug. The only possible way that could of happened is the amount of food being put into it. Exercise and self control are the only real ways to lose weight. Even with a medical condition that causes weight gain..the stomach would not stretch to that size on its own. His own wife could stand to lose some weight. I see this as folks who have chosen to eat their way into obesity.
I once watched a man in my neighborhood lose weight over a 4 year period. He was morbidly obese. He bought a large dog and started walking..each and every day.. for years. The last time I saw him he was down to a thin looking man, He went through two dogs..but he stuck with his regime. It can be done with enough willpower.
 @Whitehawk Thyroid condition can also be a reason for a BIG stomach. And he indicated that was one reason so don't assume it was all will power or lack thereof... Â
@Whitehawk He went through two dogs? He ate them?
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 @Whitehawk Did you not see the part where they found thyroid cancer? Do you know what the thyroid does? Sure, he admits to always being heavy but once there is a problem with the thyroid, losing weight can be almost, if not completely, impossible ie: hyperthyroidism (which I have had for over 15 years). Since he had his thyroid removed, losing weight probably is still almost impossible even with medication. Health wise now, this man doesn't have the time it would take to lose the weight. The thyroid gland controls so much yet people seem to not understand it and think people want to be obese.Â
 @Kymberlie2873 And even with the thyroid medication, there is no guarantee he would lose weight. My best friend of 30 years now just had a battle about 2 years ago with thyroid cancer and had his removed. He went from about 115lbs to about 140lbs in that time with all the adjusting of medications.
 @Whitehawk  @Peregrine  @Kymberlie2873 Yeah. That's why I now consume about 700 calories a day and am still gaining weight. Sure. Calories in = calories out. Nope. Not buying it. Doesn't work for all of us. I even have my doctors stumped and now they're telling me I need to eat more but my body won't take it in (trust me, it isn't pretty and I don't want to get graphic about it but I've tried).
 @Whitehawk  @Peregrine  @Kymberlie2873 what we can buy though whitehawk is you are a know it all egotistical jerk
 @Peregrine  @Kymberlie2873 There is always a guarantee that one can lose weight if one really wants to..Sorry but I can't buy your reasoning
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 @Kymberlie2873 Thyroid cancer will not cause the stomach to stretch to the size of a gallon sized milk jug. Over eating is the only culprit. There is medication for those who have thyroid removal.. It takes will power and determination to change old habits.. Exercise and portion control are known factors in losing weight. Its a very simple formula..unfortunately.most are not motivated to discipline themselves that hard.
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 @Whitehawk Yep I weigh the same as I did in high school 35 years ago and it is not lucky genetics. Every other family member outside of my immediate family could lose 50-150 lbs. I stay this way from regular exercise, watching what I eat, and eating 1/3 of what I did as a young adult.
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When we go out it is easy to see why my family is the way they are. I could not eat a full restaurant meal on my own if tried without being extremely uncomfortable. They have no problem with that and a large desert.
now how is it the fault of the insurance company that this man is morbidly obese and needs to lose weight before the tumor surgery, that is for his own safety, his heart does not need all the stress its under right now from the weight issues, he won't make it through the surgery for the tumors if he doesn't reduce the load by droppin some that weight
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Insurance companies find ways to deny claims based upon the flimsiest of rationales. Â In this case, the gastric bypass should be covered because it has been deemed medically necessary by his surgeon. Â That's how this is the fault of the insurance company.
 @franksbeans Point is, he can't lose the weight for the tumor removal without the gastric bypass.  So he dies lugging around the 70-pound tumor?  The insurance company will deny the cheaper surgery and then won't have to pay for the next part, cuz he'll be dead by then.
 @Sundowner  @franksbeans Gastric bypass just forces him to eat less something he could do on his own. They would have to take out intestine to stop absorption of what he ate and I don't believe that is what they are doing. So they want the insurance to buy him 18K in will power the way I read it.
 @FreedomRocks  @Sundowner  @franksbeans Actually he's probably in line for the R-n-Y bypass (http://www.alighterme.com/surgery_bypass.html) which will shorten the route food takes to go through the digestive system thereby resulting in at least some of the food not being digested. The other consideration would most likely be the doudenal switch (http://www.dsfacts.com/duodenal-switch-explained.html) which results in far less food absorption. Both surgeries have inherent risks separate from the other. As a matter of fact, to get enough caloric consumption to meet nutritional guidelines, many who have the DS actually eat 4,000 to 5,000 calories a day vs. the 1,200 to 1,800 expected with the RnY.
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There are other factors involved that are different than simply eating less. Doctors still don't understand why (just like they still don't have a firm grasp on why one surgery works for one person and not for another) but believe there is some brain chemical trigger at work (probably another hormone or protein).
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The story doesn't exactly detail the failed attempt. Why was it failed? Prior abdominal surgeries? Blood clotting factors? Complications with anesthesia?
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I see it as a life-saving procedure necessary to allow this man an opportunity to live. And, I'd personally much rather see my money (personal or insurance) to fund this type of surgery than to repair the mangled body of a drunk idiot who crashed into a wall at 60+ mph... But, oddly, that azz is covered....
@FreedomRocks @Sundowner @franksbeans I'm not a doctor, but why can't they just use a sword and slice the tumor off?