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WASHINGTON (AP) - Republican White House nominee Mitt Romney faced the task of getting his campaign back on track Tuesday after a hidden camera caught him off guard, while President Barack Obama was kicking back in New York on David Letterman's couch and at a fundraiser with Beyoncé and Jay-Z.
Romney plans no apology for stating that nearly half of Americans "believe that they are victims." Instead, he is expected to respond to questions about the statement by reinforcing the message he delivered at a hastily called news conference Monday night, in which he said Obama favors "a government-centered society" with people dependent on public support.
Romney advisers concede the video came at a bad time - seven weeks before Election Day and with early voting beginning in two dozen states by this weekend. They acknowledge the remarks may dominate news coverage for days but dispute the notion that Romney's comments could fundamentally change the election.
The unscripted moment was reminiscent of the 2008 campaign, when Obama was caught telling the wealthy wing of his party at a private fundraiser in San Francisco that some residents of depressed rural areas get bitter and "cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them."
In the Romney video, recorded at a Florida fundraiser in May, the candidate says 47 percent of Americans don't pay taxes and believe they are entitled to extensive government support. "My job is not to worry about those people," he said.
After the video posted late Monday afternoon on Mother Jones magazine's website, Romney refused to take them back. He told reporters that while his comments were "not elegantly stated," he stood by his remarks.
"Those who are reliant on government are not as attracted to my message of slimming down the size of government," Romney said in Costa Mesa, Calif., doubling down on his statement.
Democrats were quick to take advantage of the fallout from the video that reinforced accusations that Romney, born into privilege, cannot understand the struggles many Americans face. A pro-Obama super political action committee quickly pushed up the air date for a new television advertisement in response.
The ad, from Priorities USA Action, was previously shown online and never mentions the Romney video because it was produced before it became public. But the super PAC says it believes the ad's message serves as a counter to the Republican nominee's words and bought time to begin airing it as early as Tuesday on stations in Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Ohio, Virginia and Wisconsin.
"Doesn't Mitt Romney understand we can't rebuild America by tearing down the middle class?" the narrator says. The group also is likely to start running new ads using Romney's words from the fundraising video.
Obama was told about the video Monday afternoon by staff traveling with him on a campaign trip to Ohio. The president has not publicly commented on the video, but could do so Tuesday when he tapes an interview with David Letterman and delivers remarks at a fundraiser at the Waldorf Astoria hotel. After that, Obama was set to collect nearly $4 million at a $40,000-a-ticket fundraiser at a Manhattan nightclub with husband and wife musicians Jay-Z and Beyonce.
Romney had no public appearances scheduled Tuesday and planned to raise money in Salt Lake City and in Dallas with former first lady Laura Bush at the Bushes' Texas home.
Looking to change the subject, Romney's campaign rolled out a new television ad featuring a mother and infant, aimed at cutting into Obama's advantage with female voters. It argued that Obama's economic policies would make women's lives harder.
Romney faced growing complaints that his campaign fumbled opportunities at the Republican convention in August on foreign unrest and, most crucially, on the U.S. economy, which is seen as Obama's weakest point. GOP activists and consultants have fretted as opinion polls suggest Obama has opened a small lead over Romney since the parties' late-summer conventions.
The unexpected video, recorded in May and released Monday, sent Romney's aides scrambling yet again.
Romney surrogate Donald Trump said: "I think he has to not apologize. ... What he said is probably what he thinks."
"The problem they have is, they are not being tough enough," Trump said in a telephone interview Tuesday on NBC's "Today" show. "I'm not saying down and dirty, but that's exactly what President Obama is doing with them. They have to get tougher or they're going to lose this campaign."
Romney refused to take back his remarks and senior adviser Bay Buchanan told CNN on Tuesday that, "as a candidate he can't worry about those he can't get."
The Obama campaign e-mailed donors asking for contributions in response.
"The man who spoke these words - who demonstrates such disgust and disdain for half of our fellow Americans - is the other side's choice for president of the United States," wrote Obama campaign manager Jim Messina. "He wants to lead our country. If we don't come through for President Obama right now, this will be the guy making big decisions that affect us and our families every single day."
In the video, Romney said 47 percent of Americans pay no income tax.
About 46 percent of Americans owed no federal income tax in 2011, although many of them paid other forms of taxes. More than 16 million elderly Americans avoid federal income taxes solely because of tax breaks that apply only to seniors, according to the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center.
In the clip released by Mother Jones, Romney also is asked about the "Palestinian problem." He gives a rambling response, then says "the Palestinians have no interest whatsoever in establishing peace" and "the pathway to peace is almost unthinkable to accomplish."
Full, uncut video released
Later Tuesday, Mother Jones released the full 49-minute video uncut, in two parts:
Part 1:
Part 2:
Romney plans no apology for stating that nearly half of Americans "believe that they are victims." Instead, he is expected to respond to questions about the statement by reinforcing the message he delivered at a hastily called news conference Monday night, in which he said Obama favors "a government-centered society" with people dependent on public support.
Romney advisers concede the video came at a bad time - seven weeks before Election Day and with early voting beginning in two dozen states by this weekend. They acknowledge the remarks may dominate news coverage for days but dispute the notion that Romney's comments could fundamentally change the election.
The unscripted moment was reminiscent of the 2008 campaign, when Obama was caught telling the wealthy wing of his party at a private fundraiser in San Francisco that some residents of depressed rural areas get bitter and "cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them."
In the Romney video, recorded at a Florida fundraiser in May, the candidate says 47 percent of Americans don't pay taxes and believe they are entitled to extensive government support. "My job is not to worry about those people," he said.
After the video posted late Monday afternoon on Mother Jones magazine's website, Romney refused to take them back. He told reporters that while his comments were "not elegantly stated," he stood by his remarks.
"Those who are reliant on government are not as attracted to my message of slimming down the size of government," Romney said in Costa Mesa, Calif., doubling down on his statement.
Democrats were quick to take advantage of the fallout from the video that reinforced accusations that Romney, born into privilege, cannot understand the struggles many Americans face. A pro-Obama super political action committee quickly pushed up the air date for a new television advertisement in response.
The ad, from Priorities USA Action, was previously shown online and never mentions the Romney video because it was produced before it became public. But the super PAC says it believes the ad's message serves as a counter to the Republican nominee's words and bought time to begin airing it as early as Tuesday on stations in Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Ohio, Virginia and Wisconsin.
"Doesn't Mitt Romney understand we can't rebuild America by tearing down the middle class?" the narrator says. The group also is likely to start running new ads using Romney's words from the fundraising video.
Obama was told about the video Monday afternoon by staff traveling with him on a campaign trip to Ohio. The president has not publicly commented on the video, but could do so Tuesday when he tapes an interview with David Letterman and delivers remarks at a fundraiser at the Waldorf Astoria hotel. After that, Obama was set to collect nearly $4 million at a $40,000-a-ticket fundraiser at a Manhattan nightclub with husband and wife musicians Jay-Z and Beyonce.
Romney had no public appearances scheduled Tuesday and planned to raise money in Salt Lake City and in Dallas with former first lady Laura Bush at the Bushes' Texas home.
Looking to change the subject, Romney's campaign rolled out a new television ad featuring a mother and infant, aimed at cutting into Obama's advantage with female voters. It argued that Obama's economic policies would make women's lives harder.
Romney faced growing complaints that his campaign fumbled opportunities at the Republican convention in August on foreign unrest and, most crucially, on the U.S. economy, which is seen as Obama's weakest point. GOP activists and consultants have fretted as opinion polls suggest Obama has opened a small lead over Romney since the parties' late-summer conventions.
The unexpected video, recorded in May and released Monday, sent Romney's aides scrambling yet again.
Romney surrogate Donald Trump said: "I think he has to not apologize. ... What he said is probably what he thinks."
"The problem they have is, they are not being tough enough," Trump said in a telephone interview Tuesday on NBC's "Today" show. "I'm not saying down and dirty, but that's exactly what President Obama is doing with them. They have to get tougher or they're going to lose this campaign."
Romney refused to take back his remarks and senior adviser Bay Buchanan told CNN on Tuesday that, "as a candidate he can't worry about those he can't get."
The Obama campaign e-mailed donors asking for contributions in response.
"The man who spoke these words - who demonstrates such disgust and disdain for half of our fellow Americans - is the other side's choice for president of the United States," wrote Obama campaign manager Jim Messina. "He wants to lead our country. If we don't come through for President Obama right now, this will be the guy making big decisions that affect us and our families every single day."
In the video, Romney said 47 percent of Americans pay no income tax.
About 46 percent of Americans owed no federal income tax in 2011, although many of them paid other forms of taxes. More than 16 million elderly Americans avoid federal income taxes solely because of tax breaks that apply only to seniors, according to the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center.
In the clip released by Mother Jones, Romney also is asked about the "Palestinian problem." He gives a rambling response, then says "the Palestinians have no interest whatsoever in establishing peace" and "the pathway to peace is almost unthinkable to accomplish."
Full, uncut video released
Later Tuesday, Mother Jones released the full 49-minute video uncut, in two parts:
Part 1:
Part 2:
After nitwit iromneys gaffs , that have been going on for months, seems like we're watching a football game where the reichwingers team is down 40 to 3 with 2 minutes left and they say, " if we can get 5 interceptions and score , we'll win", then we say, "ah , you'd still lose by 2 points. Then they'd say, " but we'd get a touchback......."Ah, that would be a tie".... "ya, but we'd win in the tenth inning"....They just don't have a clue !
From the "Onion News" pretty much right on !
http://www.theonion.com/articles/what-about-that-whole-birth-certificate-thing-romn,29621/
I'm still waiting for those glassy eyed reichwing zombies, any of you, to explain this "entitlement" program and how it's different from , say, grandpa social security or a vets disability pay....go ahead, I'm waiting.
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In fact, government documents on the bailout obtained by Rolling Stone show that the legend crafted by Romney is basically a lie. The federal records, obtained under the Freedom of Information Act, reveal that Romneyâs initial rescue attempt at Bain & Company was actually a disaster â leaving the firm so financially strapped that it had âno value as a going concern.â Even worse, the federal bailout ultimately engineered by Romney screwed the FDIC â the bank insurance system backed by taxpayers â out of at least $10 million. And in an added insult, Romney rewarded top executives at Bain with hefty bonuses at the very moment that he was demanding his handout from the feds.
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I realize that Mittens was pandering to the rich folks in the room, playing salesman telling the crowd exactly what they want to hear (CNN article, spot on IMO). The problem with this is this is not a business, you can't take your customers into the back conference room to close the deal, it's politics and he should know that by now, you can't get away with this stuff.
@deejm2112 Then why did Big O take Obamacare talks into the back room and close the deal with the dem holdouts? Why is it ok then? Why do you forget all the backroom deals that Obama has made but keep harping on the statements that are mostly true that Romney makes? Is this really all the bst stuff the democrats have got? Pathetic, very pathetic....
@Greg11
Yea you are right lets look at the big picture...
Bush did backroom deals with big pharmacy No Bid contracts with medicare $4.5 billion.
Dick chaney three months into their frist term closed door deals on who would get the Iraq oil.
When asked what is Americas energy policy he said""It's and national secret you don't need to know""
What a theif and still is.
@sargerator No, its "How I prepare dog for dinner with BHO"
Yep, more republiCON "story telling time", whats next, "my pet goat" ??? As he stares out like a deer into headlights !
@Greg11 So subsidies to big oil is wrong??
Or do they pay that.???
@cptmac11 A little cut & paste story for you, and this really is how the Democrats see things:
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NIGHT WATCHMAN
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Once upon a time the government had a vast scrap yard in the middle of a desert.
Congress said, "Someone may steal from it at night."
...(tharr be more)
So they created a night watchman position and hired a person for the job.
Then Congress said, "How does the watchman do his job without instruction?"
So they created a planning department and hired two people, one person to write the instructions, and one person to do time studies.
Then Congress said, "How will we know the night watchman is doing the tasks correctly?"
So they created a Quality Control department and hired two people. One was to do the studies and one was to write the reports.
Then Congress said, "How are these people going to get paid?"
So they created two positions: a time keeper and a payroll officer then hired two people.
Then Congress said, "Who will be accountable for all of these people?"
So they created an administrative section and hired three people, an Administrative Officer, Assistant Administrative Officer, and a Legal Secretary.
Then Congress said, "We have had this command in operation for one year and we are $918,000 over budget, we must cut back."
So they laid-off the night watchman.
NOW slowly, let it sink in.
Quietly, we go like sheep to slaughter. Does anybody remember the reason given for the establishment of the DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY during the Carter administration?
Anybody?
Anything?
No?
Didn't think so!
Bottom line is, we've spent several hundred billion dollars in support of an agency, the reason for which very few people who read this can remember!
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It was very simple... and at the time, everybody thought it very
appropriate.
The Department of Energy was instituted on 8/04/1977, TO LESSEN OUR DEPENDENCE ON FOREIGN OIL.
Hey, pretty efficient, huh???
AND NOW IT'S 2012 -- 35 YEARS LATER -- AND THE BUDGET FOR THIS "NECESSARY" DEPARTMENT IS AT $24.2 BILLION A YEAR. IT HAS 16,000 FEDERAL EMPLOYEES AND APPROXIMATELY 100,000 CONTRACT EMPLOYEES; AND LOOK AT THE JOB IT HAS DONE!
(THIS IS WHERE YOU SLAP YOUR FOREHEAD AND SAY, "WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?")
34 years ago 30% of our oil consumption was foreign imports. Today 70% of our oil consumption is foreign imports.
Ah, yes -- good old Federal bureaucracy.
NOW, WE HAVE TURNED OVER THE BANKING SYSTEM, HEALTH CARE, AND THE AUTO INDUSTRY TO THE SAME GOVERNMENT?
Hello!! Anybody Home?Â
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News Flash mitt has found 250,000,000 voters...
Oh wait those were dollars from three business men....
I know I know but Rick Santorum said "" We all know the republicans will never get the smart people on there side""
I just wished the would have picked at least one to be their president...
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@cptmac11 Our embassies are burning, ambassadors killed and you want to pick up on gaffes? GET A EFFIN LIFE CAPT!Â
@Greg11 You forgot the last part..
And Obama is wearing  green socks !!!
So tell me 'o wise ones', what policies have worked that Big O has in place? 51% increase in the deficeit? 15 Million more on food stamps? Embassies burning in the middle east? Oh yeah, those entitlement policies I guess.....
cptmac11, you're agitating the mental patients again aren't you !
@cptmac11 And your still an idiot...
All of this spin is so reminiscent of the 2008 campaign. The media took anything that McCain said, and did, to the extreme, just to make him look bad, or worse, which ever, and it worked. The media wants obama as president, and they are going to insure that it happens, by realeasing any bad press (even if they have to make it up themselves) they can find on the opponent. Everyone should be very afraid of the mainstream media. They are the ones that are reporting stories, and everyone is basing their oppinions due to the media reports. In the past week, I have seen numerous reports on just how bad Romney is, however, NOTHING on obama. Either way. Even when obama SHOULD have been blasted on how he was handling the midddle east, really nothing was said. Well, alot was said, because Romney had a statement that he made, and they lambasted him, to deflect any criticism of obama. And it worked. The worse Romney looks, the better obama looks. Ask yourself why does the mainstream media want obama in the whithouse so bad, that it is blatently obvious that they are biased. Why do we allow the media to form our oppinion of one candidate or another? I truly think we are sheep being led to slaughter by the media.
"obama SHOULD have been blasted on how he was handling the midddle east"....You keep listening to fauxe nooze and the reichwing media talking heads. You simple don't understand the actual political sense that is out there.
From your comment , and probably right to assume, you listened to netanyahoo rant about how obama is terrible for isreal, well, he has also praised obamas work with isreal as for the rest of the government leadership of isreal, like presiden peres or defense minister barak are happy with obamas relationship and actions with them
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"Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, each of whom has commended Obama for "doing, in regard to our security, more than anything that I can remember in the past," and for being "a great president and a great friend of Israel."
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And read, the no spin zone spinning again, yet so obvious !
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/09/08/foxs-ralph-peters-reads-body-language-to-blast/189810
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And for you reichwingnutjobs, a jewish publication because , as you delude yourself into thinking that "mediamatters" has got to be a propaganda machine !
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http://www.jta.org/news/article/2012/09/18/3107211/aipac-praises-steadfast-support-for-israel-of-leaders-including-obama
Did you hear???Â
Obama is dropping out of the campaign...
Oh Wait that was a republican induced nightmare..
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so funny, now the clowns go at it again. the latest on katu. ryan is saying that robme is talking out his assrk. you can't make this sheeeet up. i can't wait till tomorrow
Here's another video...enjoy, it's short but great...funny, funny, funny...we all need a laugh.....
 This is great!
Click below for a GREAT LAUGH!!
Obama Supporter Interviews Herself - This is so hilarious! Love it! How dumb could you be to vote for Obama again???
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 @KHEB That was too funny. They should have used this in the video, "Obama bragging he got Healthcare passed when no one else could". I thought why are you bragging about forcing something on us that 2/3 or your paying population didn't want?
I have a serious question. How are people in the lower income bracket going to afford insurance. Employers are going to have to drop providing insurance because it cost too much. I have never been on welfare, collected food stamps or disability. I have paid my own way. I am not rich, or even middle class, but I have paid my own way. I can't afford the cheapest insurance offered. I can afford to save money and pay cash because I average $750 a year and that include dental. The cheapest insurance offered is $1500 a year and that comes with a $10,000 deductible. I still will have to pay my own medical.
I was watching a pastor and said no sin goes unpunished. The unjust financial strain projected on me is a sin; people should have freedom of choice.
 @KHEB Here let me help you out K
PLEASE LOOK AT SOMETHING ELSE Â PLEASE PLEASE DON'T AT THIS
LOOK OVER THERE
LOOK OBAMA SAID......................
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 @KHEB I'll bite.  How stupid?
kheb, You use a nobody video to make a point. that's funny. you're about as hardup as romeny. here let me show you a video from a somebody with enough weight to be speaking at the gop convention. This is sad, but funnier, and gain it ain't from a nobody. actually this is more hilarious if you have a couple of beers:Â
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 @KHEB Hilarious! Reminds me of that old guy at the convention who interviewed the chair!Â
 @KHEB LOL that is soooooo... good. I'm posting it to my facebook. Thanks for the laugh
@jonsiesd2 @KHEB But I thought it Was you???
Oh Mitt the gift that keeps giving. So which of the 47% were you talking about? The gulf war vet who got injured and can't work? Maybe its the older people on fixed income? Are they the victims? Or was it the 4000 millionaires who pay no income tax? That must be who you are talking about:
http://money.cnn.com/2012/09/18/pf/taxes/romney-income-taxes-millionaires/index.html?source=cnn_bin
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 @Landpirate I just have to say it....
Who's leg do you have to hump to get a mitt vote from..
Thanks for you support...
So, here's the latest on this clown. He now wishes he was mexican so that he can get the latimo vote. He's a lttle hard up ain't he? His election committee is coming apart at the seams. other political pubes are distancing away from him in droves and this guy is still lost in space.
@swimmer The sad part is he could probably buy mexico out right....
Romney's comments actually come from one of those Mormon books he has read.. Years ago the Mormon church had a book about how 50% of the population would pay for the other 50%.. Believe me, this man is lead by that cult !
Yep, they're called 'gaffes', and there are whole rooms full of people who get paid big bucks to spend hours on end looking for soundbytes from decades ago.Â
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Thankfully for the Obama campaign, Mitt Romney is about as an effective public speaker as GW. He hands them to the soundbyte seekers on a silver platter almost daily.Â
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Wouldn't it be really, really neat if we elected our leaders based on substanitive ideas and proposals?Â
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Naaaaaaa... back to the mud slinging and sound byte poltics.
 @MarkKpic Gaffes like this
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Our Marxist-in-Chief strikes again.
 @TimBurr  @MarkKpic Ha ha you are so right ha...
the high wage earners paying taxes to fund roads to help state commerce..
That's the stupidest thing I have ever heard of...
Do you have anything about the government needing to pay oil company's $40 million a year in subsidies??
When they make $ 9 billion in three months???
Wow that would be a real crack up you know like the truth...
Or don't you play with the truth??
As on fox news some people say it's like playing with fire....
 @TimBurr Right on... I feel what he said needs to be repeated, so I'm posting it here.
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At an October 19, 1998 conference at Loyola University, Barack Obama spoke against "propaganda" that said government doesn't work and the need to "pool resources and hence facilitate some redistribution because I actually believe in redistribution."
@cptmac11 Oh like Obama helping his brother in Kenya that lives in a hut? Or his aunt thats illegal and on public assistance? Yo guys are a bunch of bafoons...
@jonsiesd2 Yea like the last guy that said stuff like that ...Redistribution
How did he put it???
Oh yea he said "" Let those among you who have the most help the ones who have the least."""
What was his name Oh that's right   Jesus...
Or as mitt calls him Haysus the gardener....
I bet he sure is proud of all you Mine mine mine people....
Obama majored in Constitutional Law and became a Constitutional lawyer specifiically so he would know how to dismanntel it.....thats from his Pakastani love-in roommate at Cornell, the one he wore the wedding ring for before he met Michelle. where he used his Fulbright scolorship (as a foreigh resident student).
 @TimBurr *facepalm*
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 @MarkKpic The "effective" public speaker out's himself 14 years ago and the 50% democrats ignore the red flags. NICE!
I suppose I'm part of the 47% Robme talks about.. I have worked for 45 years, have been a tax payer since 1967.
I have paid in over 150,000 into social security and my employers have paid about the same.. In about 3 years I intend to collect my social security.. So according to Robme this is an entitlement, you bet it is, I am very entitled to that money, I paid in and that account is mine.. I resent this man making it look like I'm a mooch.. Goes to show us all how out of touch this rich man is to the working man.. I'm actually embarrassed for anyone who would vote for this monster... Ryan is no better, a born liar, good looking, I will give him that, but he is only concerned with his lies..
Folks, there is no way we can have this man represent this country.. Most of his money is invested off shore, even his yacht flies the Caymen Islands flag.. And then he won't show his taxes.. This guy is a total mess..
 @dougrpdx Well said!Â
Jtesla.. Rombe had the same comments as Bain robbed pension plans and left the people with nothing, then turn around and call them moochers while he set up over 100 million dollar trust fund for his kids.. You actually want someone like that as your president ? WoW.. amazing !
@dougrpdx Where did I say I wanted "someone like that" as President? I didn't. However, if I can't vote for a rich guy then that eliminates more than one of the people that will be on the ballot.
 @pdxd And yet you just did and failed as well
 @JTesla Sorry, but you can't argue with stupid, and come out smarter....
Really... Get a grip fool.. That money was not a tax.. Go back to the new deal and read how that was supposed to be.. I paid it, it's mine.. Don't play me like that
 @dougrpdx http://cnsnews.com/news/article/democrat-congressman-govt-has-no-contractual-obligation-pay-social-security-benefits
 @TimBurr Please not more of that BS news crap hole site you post they don't even have current news just the story rush told them to print.
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@dougrpdx LOL me the fool, the Social Security administration sends me a flier every year that says pretty much what I did. It's a tax that goes to those currently collecting it. What you are talking about is privatized Social Security, where you would have your own account, sounds to me like you have more in common with Ryan than you'd like to admit.
@dougrpdx I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you do not have an account, and there is no money there with your name on it. The money you will receive each month isn't money you put away, it is money that was taken from someone else in the form of a tax. Just because you paid a tax makes you feel entitled? You are not alone.
 @JTesla you have NO idea what you are blabbering about. Oh you poor deluded soul.Â
 @TimBurr  @Festivus  @KKStJohn  @JTesla And mitts middle name has just been changed to ponzi....
Film at ..na he already screwed that up......Â
 @Festivus  @KKStJohn  @JTesla because it's a Ponzi Scheme.
 @KKStJohn  @JTesla Really?  SS has been since its inception a transfer of wealth from the current working class to the current infirm or retired class. Â
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No one has an "account".
Actually the SCOTUS has already ruled on this:  Flemming V. Nestor.  Congress can change the rules at any time.  Â
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@KKStJohn What I said coincides with what the Social Security Administration says. If you want your own account then Social Security needs to be privatized, as in the privatization plans that Bush and Ryan backed. Only the deluded would bash the Ryan privatization plan and then try to treat Social Security like a privatized plan. You simply can't have it both ways.