Argentine Jorge Bergoglio elected Pope Francis
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VATICAN CITY (AP) - Jorge Bergoglio of Argentina was elected pope Wednesday, becoming the first pontiff from the Americas and the first from outside Europe in more than a millennium. He chose the name Francis, associating himself with the humble 13th-century Italian preacher who lived a life of poverty.
Looking stunned, Francis shyly waved to the crowd of more than 100,000 people who packed a rain-soaked St. Peter's Square for the announcement, marveling that the cardinals needed to look to "the end of the earth" to find a bishop of Rome.
In choosing a 76-year-old pope, the cardinals clearly decided that they didn't need a vigorous, young pope who would reign for decades but rather a seasoned, popular and humble pastor who would draw followers to the faith and help rebuild a church stained by scandal.
The cardinal electors overcame deep divisions about the future of the church to select the 266th pontiff in a remarkably fast, five-ballot conclave.
Francis asked for prayers for himself, and for retired Pope Benedict XVI, whose stunning resignation paved the way for the conclave that brought the first Jesuit to the papacy. Francis also spoke by phone with Benedict after his election and plans to see him in the coming days, the Vatican said.
"Brothers and sisters, good evening," Francis said to wild cheers in his first public remarks as pontiff from the loggia of St. Peter's Basilica.
"You know that the work of the conclave is to give a bishop to Rome. It seems as if my brother cardinals went to find him from the end of the earth, but here we are. Thank you for the welcome," he said.
In one of his first acts as pope, Francis on Thursday morning planned to visit Benedict at the papal retreat in Castel Gandolfo south of Rome.
American Cardinal Timothy Dolan said Wednesday night at the North American College, the U.S. seminary in Rome, that Francis told fellow cardinals following the conclave that made him pope: "Tomorrow morning, I'm going to visit Benedict."
The visit was significant because Benedict's resignation has raised concerns about potential power conflicts emerging from the peculiar situation of having a reigning pope and a retired one.
No such worries troubled people in Francis' home continent.
Latin Americans burst into tears and jubilation at news that the region, which counts 40 percent of the world's Catholics, finally had a pope to call its own.
"It's a huge gift for all of Latin America. We waited 20 centuries. It was worth the wait," said Jose Antonio Cruz, a Franciscan friar at the St. Francis of Assisi church in the colonial Old San Juan district in Puerto Rico.
Bergoglio had reportedly finished second in the 2005 conclave that produced Benedict - who last month became the first pope to resign in 600 years. The speed with which he was elected pope this time around indicates that - even though he is 76 and has slowed down from the effects of having a lung removed as a teenager - he still had the trust of cardinals to do the job.
After announcing "Habemus Papam" - "We have a pope!" - a cardinal standing on the balcony of St. Peter's Basilica on Wednesday revealed the identity of the new pontiff, using his Latin name, and announced he would be called Francis.
The longtime archbishop of Buenos Aires is the son of middle-class Italian immigrants and is known as a humble man who denied himself the luxuries that previous Buenos Aires cardinals enjoyed.
He often rode the bus to work, cooked his own meals and regularly visited the slums that ring Argentina's capital. He considers social outreach, rather than doctrinal battles, to be the essential business of the church.
Catholics are still buzzing over his speech last year accusing fellow church officials of hypocrisy for forgetting that Jesus Christ bathed lepers and ate with prostitutes.
In a lifetime of teaching and leading priests in Latin America, which has the largest share of the world's Catholics, Bergoglio has also shown a keen political sensibility as well as the kind of self-effacing humility that fellow cardinals value highly, according to his official biographer, Sergio Rubin.
Bergoglio, who as a teen lost a lung to infection, showed that humility on Wednesday, saying that before he blessed the crowd he wanted their prayers for him and then he bowed his head amid the silence from the crowd.
"Good night, and have a good rest," he said before going back into the palace.
Cardinal Dolan gave an inside glimpse into the drama of the conclave in his talk at the American seminary.
When the tally reached the necessary 77 votes to make Bergoglio pope, Dolan said, the cardinals erupted in applause. And when he accepted the momentous responsibility thrust upon him - "there wasn't a dry eye in the place," the American cardinal recounted.
After the princes of the church had congratulated the new pope one by one, other Vatican officials wanted to do the same, but Francis preferred to go outside and greet the throngs of faithful. "Maybe we should go to the balcony first," Dolan recalled the pope as saying.
In choosing to call himself Francis, the new pope was associating himself with the much-loved Italian saint from Assisi associated with peace, poverty and simplicity. St. Francis was born to a wealthy family but later renounced his wealth and founded the Franciscan order of friars; he wandered about the countryside preaching to the people in very simple language.
He was so famed for his sanctity that he was canonized just two years after his death in 1226.
St. Francis Xavier is another important namesake. One of the 16th century founders of the Jesuit order, Francis Xavier was a legendary missionary who spread the faith as far as India and Japan - giving the new pope's name selection possibly further symbolic resonance in an age when the church is struggling to maintain its numbers.
Francis will celebrate his first Mass as pope in the Sistine Chapel on Thursday, and will be installed officially as pope on Tuesday, according to the Vatican spokesman the Rev. Federico Lombardi.
Lombardi, also a Jesuit, said he was particularly stunned by the election given that Jesuits typically shun positions of authority in the church, instead offering their work in service to those in power.
But Lombardi said that in accepting the election, Francis must have felt it "a strong call to service," an antidote to all those who speculated that the papacy was about a search for power.
In an interesting twist the Jesuits were expelled from all of the Americas in the mid-18th century. Now, a Latin American Jesuit has been elected head of the 1.2-billion strong Catholic Church.
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Tens of thousands of people who braved cold rain to watch the smokestack atop the Sistine Chapel jumped in joy when white smoke poured out a few minutes past 7 p.m., many shouting "Habemus Papam!" or "We have a pope!" - as the bells of St. Peter's Basilica and churches across Rome pealed.
After what seemed like an unending wait of more than an hour, they cheered again when the doors to the loggia opened. The cheers became deafening when Bergoglio's name was announced.
"I can't explain how happy I am right now," said Ben Canete, a 32-year-old Filipino, jumping up and down in excitement.
Elected on the fifth ballot, Francis was chosen in one of the fastest conclaves in years, remarkable given there was no clear front-runner going into the vote and that the church had been in turmoil following the upheaval unleashed by Benedict's surprise resignation.
A winner must receive 77 votes, or two-thirds of the 115, to be named pope.
For comparison's sake, Benedict was elected on the fourth ballot in 2005 - but he was the clear front-runner going into the vote. Pope John Paul II was elected on the eighth ballot in 1978 to become the first non-Italian pope in 455 years.
Patrizia Rizzo ran down the main boulevard to the piazza with her two children as soon as she heard the news on the car radio. "I parked the car ... and dashed to the square, she said. "It's so exciting, as Romans we had to come."
Bergoglio's legacy as cardinal includes his efforts to repair the reputation of a church that lost many followers by failing to openly challenge Argentina's murderous 1976-83 dictatorship. His own record as the head of the Jesuit order in Argentina at the time has been tarnished as well.
Many Argentines remain angry over the church's acknowledged failure to openly confront a regime that was kidnapping and killing thousands of people as it sought to eliminate "subversive elements" in society. It's one reason why more than two-thirds of Argentines describe themselves as Catholic, but fewer than 10 percent regularly attend mass.
Under Bergoglio's leadership, Argentina's bishops issued a collective apology in October 2012 for the church's failures to protect its flock. But the statement blamed the era's violence in roughly equal measure on both the junta and its enemies.
"Bergoglio has been very critical of human rights violations during the dictatorship, but he has always also criticized the leftist guerrillas; he doesn't forget that side," Rubin said.
Bergoglio's own role in the so-called Dirty War has been the subject of controversy.
At least two court cases directly involved Bergoglio. One examined the torture of two of his Jesuit priests who were kidnapped in 1976 from the slums where they advocated liberation theology. One accused Bergoglio of effectively handing him over to the junta.
Both men were freed after Bergoglio took extraordinary, behind-the-scenes action to save them - including persuading dictator Jorge Videla's family priest to call in sick so that Bergoglio himself could say Mass in the junta leader's home, where he privately appealed for mercy. His intervention likely saved their lives, but Bergoglio never shared the details until Rubin interviewed him for a 2010 biography.
Rubin said failing to challenge the dictators was simply pragmatic at a time when so many people were getting killed, and attributed Bergoglio's later reluctance to share his side of the story as a reflection of his humility.
Bergoglio also was accused of turning his back on a family that lost five relatives to state terror, including a young woman who was 5-months' pregnant before she was kidnapped and eventually killed in 1977. The woman's child, who survived, was given to an "important" family.
Despite written evidence indicating he knew the child had been given away, Bergoglio testified in 2010 that he didn't know about any stolen babies until well after the dictatorship was over.
Unlike the confusion that reigned during the 2005 conclave, the smoke this time around has been clear: black during the first two rounds of burned ballots, and then a clear white on Wednesday night - thanks to special smoke flares akin to those used in soccer matches or protests that were lit in the chapel ovens.
The Vatican on Wednesday divulged the secret recipe used: potassium perchlorate, anthracene, which is a derivative of coal tar, and sulfur for the black smoke; potassium chlorate, lactose and a pine resin for the white smoke.
The chemicals are contained in five units of a cartridge that is placed inside the stove of the Sistine Chapel. When activated, the five blocks ignite one after another for about a minute apiece, creating the steady stream of smoke that accompanies the natural smoke from the burned ballot papers.
Despite the great plumes of smoke that poured out of the chimney, Lombardi said, neither the Sistine frescoes nor the cardinals inside the chapel suffered any smoke damage.
Looking stunned, Francis shyly waved to the crowd of more than 100,000 people who packed a rain-soaked St. Peter's Square for the announcement, marveling that the cardinals needed to look to "the end of the earth" to find a bishop of Rome.
In choosing a 76-year-old pope, the cardinals clearly decided that they didn't need a vigorous, young pope who would reign for decades but rather a seasoned, popular and humble pastor who would draw followers to the faith and help rebuild a church stained by scandal.
The cardinal electors overcame deep divisions about the future of the church to select the 266th pontiff in a remarkably fast, five-ballot conclave.
Francis asked for prayers for himself, and for retired Pope Benedict XVI, whose stunning resignation paved the way for the conclave that brought the first Jesuit to the papacy. Francis also spoke by phone with Benedict after his election and plans to see him in the coming days, the Vatican said.
"Brothers and sisters, good evening," Francis said to wild cheers in his first public remarks as pontiff from the loggia of St. Peter's Basilica.
"You know that the work of the conclave is to give a bishop to Rome. It seems as if my brother cardinals went to find him from the end of the earth, but here we are. Thank you for the welcome," he said.
In one of his first acts as pope, Francis on Thursday morning planned to visit Benedict at the papal retreat in Castel Gandolfo south of Rome.
American Cardinal Timothy Dolan said Wednesday night at the North American College, the U.S. seminary in Rome, that Francis told fellow cardinals following the conclave that made him pope: "Tomorrow morning, I'm going to visit Benedict."
The visit was significant because Benedict's resignation has raised concerns about potential power conflicts emerging from the peculiar situation of having a reigning pope and a retired one.
No such worries troubled people in Francis' home continent.
Latin Americans burst into tears and jubilation at news that the region, which counts 40 percent of the world's Catholics, finally had a pope to call its own.
"It's a huge gift for all of Latin America. We waited 20 centuries. It was worth the wait," said Jose Antonio Cruz, a Franciscan friar at the St. Francis of Assisi church in the colonial Old San Juan district in Puerto Rico.
Bergoglio had reportedly finished second in the 2005 conclave that produced Benedict - who last month became the first pope to resign in 600 years. The speed with which he was elected pope this time around indicates that - even though he is 76 and has slowed down from the effects of having a lung removed as a teenager - he still had the trust of cardinals to do the job.
After announcing "Habemus Papam" - "We have a pope!" - a cardinal standing on the balcony of St. Peter's Basilica on Wednesday revealed the identity of the new pontiff, using his Latin name, and announced he would be called Francis.
The longtime archbishop of Buenos Aires is the son of middle-class Italian immigrants and is known as a humble man who denied himself the luxuries that previous Buenos Aires cardinals enjoyed.
He often rode the bus to work, cooked his own meals and regularly visited the slums that ring Argentina's capital. He considers social outreach, rather than doctrinal battles, to be the essential business of the church.
Catholics are still buzzing over his speech last year accusing fellow church officials of hypocrisy for forgetting that Jesus Christ bathed lepers and ate with prostitutes.
In a lifetime of teaching and leading priests in Latin America, which has the largest share of the world's Catholics, Bergoglio has also shown a keen political sensibility as well as the kind of self-effacing humility that fellow cardinals value highly, according to his official biographer, Sergio Rubin.
Bergoglio, who as a teen lost a lung to infection, showed that humility on Wednesday, saying that before he blessed the crowd he wanted their prayers for him and then he bowed his head amid the silence from the crowd.
"Good night, and have a good rest," he said before going back into the palace.
Cardinal Dolan gave an inside glimpse into the drama of the conclave in his talk at the American seminary.
When the tally reached the necessary 77 votes to make Bergoglio pope, Dolan said, the cardinals erupted in applause. And when he accepted the momentous responsibility thrust upon him - "there wasn't a dry eye in the place," the American cardinal recounted.
After the princes of the church had congratulated the new pope one by one, other Vatican officials wanted to do the same, but Francis preferred to go outside and greet the throngs of faithful. "Maybe we should go to the balcony first," Dolan recalled the pope as saying.
In choosing to call himself Francis, the new pope was associating himself with the much-loved Italian saint from Assisi associated with peace, poverty and simplicity. St. Francis was born to a wealthy family but later renounced his wealth and founded the Franciscan order of friars; he wandered about the countryside preaching to the people in very simple language.
He was so famed for his sanctity that he was canonized just two years after his death in 1226.
St. Francis Xavier is another important namesake. One of the 16th century founders of the Jesuit order, Francis Xavier was a legendary missionary who spread the faith as far as India and Japan - giving the new pope's name selection possibly further symbolic resonance in an age when the church is struggling to maintain its numbers.
Francis will celebrate his first Mass as pope in the Sistine Chapel on Thursday, and will be installed officially as pope on Tuesday, according to the Vatican spokesman the Rev. Federico Lombardi.
Lombardi, also a Jesuit, said he was particularly stunned by the election given that Jesuits typically shun positions of authority in the church, instead offering their work in service to those in power.
But Lombardi said that in accepting the election, Francis must have felt it "a strong call to service," an antidote to all those who speculated that the papacy was about a search for power.
In an interesting twist the Jesuits were expelled from all of the Americas in the mid-18th century. Now, a Latin American Jesuit has been elected head of the 1.2-billion strong Catholic Church.
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HABEMUS PAPAM FRANCISCUM
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Tens of thousands of people who braved cold rain to watch the smokestack atop the Sistine Chapel jumped in joy when white smoke poured out a few minutes past 7 p.m., many shouting "Habemus Papam!" or "We have a pope!" - as the bells of St. Peter's Basilica and churches across Rome pealed.
After what seemed like an unending wait of more than an hour, they cheered again when the doors to the loggia opened. The cheers became deafening when Bergoglio's name was announced.
"I can't explain how happy I am right now," said Ben Canete, a 32-year-old Filipino, jumping up and down in excitement.
Elected on the fifth ballot, Francis was chosen in one of the fastest conclaves in years, remarkable given there was no clear front-runner going into the vote and that the church had been in turmoil following the upheaval unleashed by Benedict's surprise resignation.
A winner must receive 77 votes, or two-thirds of the 115, to be named pope.
For comparison's sake, Benedict was elected on the fourth ballot in 2005 - but he was the clear front-runner going into the vote. Pope John Paul II was elected on the eighth ballot in 1978 to become the first non-Italian pope in 455 years.
Patrizia Rizzo ran down the main boulevard to the piazza with her two children as soon as she heard the news on the car radio. "I parked the car ... and dashed to the square, she said. "It's so exciting, as Romans we had to come."
Bergoglio's legacy as cardinal includes his efforts to repair the reputation of a church that lost many followers by failing to openly challenge Argentina's murderous 1976-83 dictatorship. His own record as the head of the Jesuit order in Argentina at the time has been tarnished as well.
Many Argentines remain angry over the church's acknowledged failure to openly confront a regime that was kidnapping and killing thousands of people as it sought to eliminate "subversive elements" in society. It's one reason why more than two-thirds of Argentines describe themselves as Catholic, but fewer than 10 percent regularly attend mass.
Under Bergoglio's leadership, Argentina's bishops issued a collective apology in October 2012 for the church's failures to protect its flock. But the statement blamed the era's violence in roughly equal measure on both the junta and its enemies.
"Bergoglio has been very critical of human rights violations during the dictatorship, but he has always also criticized the leftist guerrillas; he doesn't forget that side," Rubin said.
Bergoglio's own role in the so-called Dirty War has been the subject of controversy.
At least two court cases directly involved Bergoglio. One examined the torture of two of his Jesuit priests who were kidnapped in 1976 from the slums where they advocated liberation theology. One accused Bergoglio of effectively handing him over to the junta.
Both men were freed after Bergoglio took extraordinary, behind-the-scenes action to save them - including persuading dictator Jorge Videla's family priest to call in sick so that Bergoglio himself could say Mass in the junta leader's home, where he privately appealed for mercy. His intervention likely saved their lives, but Bergoglio never shared the details until Rubin interviewed him for a 2010 biography.
Rubin said failing to challenge the dictators was simply pragmatic at a time when so many people were getting killed, and attributed Bergoglio's later reluctance to share his side of the story as a reflection of his humility.
Bergoglio also was accused of turning his back on a family that lost five relatives to state terror, including a young woman who was 5-months' pregnant before she was kidnapped and eventually killed in 1977. The woman's child, who survived, was given to an "important" family.
Despite written evidence indicating he knew the child had been given away, Bergoglio testified in 2010 that he didn't know about any stolen babies until well after the dictatorship was over.
Unlike the confusion that reigned during the 2005 conclave, the smoke this time around has been clear: black during the first two rounds of burned ballots, and then a clear white on Wednesday night - thanks to special smoke flares akin to those used in soccer matches or protests that were lit in the chapel ovens.
The Vatican on Wednesday divulged the secret recipe used: potassium perchlorate, anthracene, which is a derivative of coal tar, and sulfur for the black smoke; potassium chlorate, lactose and a pine resin for the white smoke.
The chemicals are contained in five units of a cartridge that is placed inside the stove of the Sistine Chapel. When activated, the five blocks ignite one after another for about a minute apiece, creating the steady stream of smoke that accompanies the natural smoke from the burned ballot papers.
Despite the great plumes of smoke that poured out of the chimney, Lombardi said, neither the Sistine frescoes nor the cardinals inside the chapel suffered any smoke damage.
Time for a Pope to finally own up to the young boy molestation cover ups. Â This church must square with what it's done in the past and make amends. Â
Well, this is going to be a predominately a South American theology which means...soon to be illegal in the United States! Â Yay!
@Benjamin Schniffle Isn't that was I said below that the Church has to right these wrongs? Give this Pope the opportunity to do so before passing judgement. He's only been Pope for one day. Things like this don't happen overnight. It's going to take a little time.
God Bless and best wishes to Pope Francis I, the Church, and all who inhabit the earth, including the poor, the sick, and of course, the animals, great and small.
I'm Catholic and proud of it. I realize the Catholic Church has it's problems and has a lot to do to fix them. I also don't agree with a lot of their teachings and I've "squared off" with my pastor of many of these (such as the Church's view on birth control). However, as I scroll through these comments below I see more comments that are rude and are just ripping on the Church and things that have happened in the past. Â
Yes, there were/are some pedophile priests and the Church's attempt to hide them is appalling. Many of you I'm sure think that just because a very small percentage of the priests are/were pedophiles that all of them are. While any percentage is unacceptable, don't let the media dictate to you what it really true.
No religion is perfect and they all make mistakes. After all, they are run by humans. As Jesus says in the Bible, let he who is without sin, cast the first stone. Not one person here would be able to cast one stone, not even myself. I too am human and I make mistakes and I've sinned.
To those of you that feel the need to rip on the Church, why not keep your mouth shut and allow this Pope a chance to correct the wrongs of the past?
@scoreboard  We don't let Nazi's live down their past, why should we let child molesters who still don't repent?
@Benjamin Schniffle The past is the past and you can't change that. What has happened has happened. However, you can atone for past transgressions. Give this Pope the opportunity to do so before bashing him. If he does nothing, then fine, bash all you want, but he is Pope for one day and people feel the need to bash on the church. Â
No, the Catholic Church is not perfect and Catholics like me realize this but again, give him the chance to at least try.
@scoreboard "To those of you that feel the need to rip on the Church, why not keep your mouth shut and allow this Pope a chance to correct the wrongs of the past? "
To those of you who feel the need to squash other peoples' freedom of speech and freedom of thought, ask yourself why you feel such a need?
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@I812 Grow up!!!
@scoreboard @I812 No, you grow up! Believing in fairy tales and magic are for those without a brain. Answer this question: Why is it every organized religion has to coerce belief through fear? When you can answer that question correctly you will have mentally matured.
@scoreboard @I812 You posted this crap before but at least you are not attributing it to Einstein anymore after I pointed out your reference error. This argument is fatally flawed in so many ways. Instead of regurgitating someone else substandard work, why not develop your own? You cannot answer my question correctly so you punt. Wonderful.
@I812 @scoreboard So just because you don't believe in God you feel you have the right to bash on those that do? I know that there are those that do that condemn those that don't and I don't think they should. We don't have to agree but why not show a some respect? Take the high road. If you and I were to meet up by chance and have this discussion I would tell you that I disagree but I respect your right to believe the way you do. I won't judge because I believe that it is only God's place to judge however you do choose to judge. I said Grow up because one would think you could act like an adult but instead I found your comments to be immature, childish and offensive. While my comments may have been disrepectful, I would give you the respect if your comments would have been respectful. If you want to say that you don't believe in God, then that's fine. I wouldn't have said a thing, except perhaps that I disagree with you but it's your choice.
Never heard that story before, but something tells me that the student did not score very high marks in that course and will be re-taking it in summer school.
I am agnostic so the particular religion matters not to me. However, the Catholic Church has had thousands of years to "correct the wrongs" it has inflicted on its followers. It has used faith, fear, and ignorance of its followers to maintain its power. The idea of a human being "Gods" teacher is flawed and can only exist on faith. That is fine for those who wish to be subject to it.
@I812@scoreboard
Professor : You are a Christian, arenât you, son ?
Student : Yes, sir.
Professor: So, you believe in GOD ?
Student : Absolutely, sir.
Professor : Is GOD good ?
Student : Sure.
Professor: Is GOD all powerful ?
Student : Yes.
Professor: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to GOD to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But GOD didnât. How is this GOD good then? Hmm?
(Student was silent.)
Professor: You canât answer, can you ? Letâs start again, young fella. Is GOD good?
Student : Yes.
Professor: Is satan good ?
Student : No.
Professor: Where does satan come from ?
Student : From ⦠GOD â¦
Professor: Thatâs right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?
Student : Yes.
Professor: Evil is everywhere, isnât it ? And GOD did make everything. Correct?
Student : Yes.
Professor: So who created evil ?
(Student did not answer.)
Professor: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, donât they?
Student : Yes, sir.
Professor: So, who created them ?
(Student had no answer.)
Professor: Science says you have 5 Senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son, have you ever seen GOD?
Student : No, sir.
Professor: Tell us if you have ever heard your GOD?
Student : No , sir.
Professor: Have you ever felt your GOD, tasted your GOD, smelt your GOD? Have you ever had any sensory perception of GOD for that matter?
Student : No, sir. Iâm afraid I havenât.
Professor: Yet you still believe in Him?
Student : Yes.
Professor : According to Empirical, Testable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says your GOD doesnât exist. What do you say to that, son?
Student : Nothing. I only have my faith.
Professor: Yes, faith. And that is the problem Science has.
Student : Professor, is there such a thing as heat?
Professor: Yes.
Student : And is there such a thing as cold?
Professor: Yes.
Student : No, sir. There isnât.
(The lecture theater became very quiet with this turn of events.)
Student : Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we donât have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we canât go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.
(There was pin-drop silence in the lecture theater.)
Student : What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?
Professor: Yes. What is night if there isnât darkness?
Student : Youâre wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light. But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and its called darkness, isnât it? In reality, darkness isnât. If it is, well you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldnât you?
Professor: So what is the point you are making, young man ?
Student : Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.
Professor: Flawed ? Can you explain how?
Student : Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good GOD and a bad GOD. You are viewing the concept of GOD as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, Science canât even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing.
Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Professor, do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?
Professor: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.
Student : Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?
(The Professor shook his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument was going.)
Student : Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor. Are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher?
(The class was in uproar.)
Student : Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professorâs brain?
(The class broke out into laughter. )
Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professorâs brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established Rules of Empirical, Stable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says that you have no brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?
(The room was silent. The Professor stared at the student, his face unfathomable.)
Professor: I guess youâll have to take them on faith, son.
Student : That is it sir ⦠Exactly ! The link between man & GOD is FAITH. That is all that keeps things alive and moving.
vayas con dio.
@GNTLwarrior I am sorry what is wrong with your vayass??
wasn't he one of those being investigated for war crimes during argentinas civil war?
@franksbeans He was, he was tried for his role in the execution of priests, wow I can't believe he would even belong to the catholic church after that
A Fresh face to rule the minions and ignore the overpopulation and poverty in third world countries. Business as usual.
@The Resistance Come on the drone strikes are doing the best they can...
Well, he's a Jesuit, plan on some ass kicking and house cleaning, no more putting things off or sweeping things under the rug.
@trololol ~ Well, if it actually turns out that way, it could be the best thing that's ever happened to the Catholic church... Maybe the new pope could even restore a semblance of respectability to it...Â
@margay1 @trololol Exactly. People need to give the man a chance to at least attempt to right the wrongs that have taken place before they decide to rip on him.
@uknow2 @scoreboard @margay1 @trololol Sadly I do and I did give him a chance and he failed and continues to do so. However, this Pope is no Obama, thankfully.
@scoreboard @margay1 @trololol Remember when America said that about Obama.??
When I got home there was white smoke coming out of my chimney and a book on my doorstep on 'How To Speak Spanish.' That was OK, but the white robe and huge cross was more than I could handle in one day.Â
@boned Nice how you spun that white dress into a robe! You've been practicing your public relations, haven't you? And no, I am not referrring to the alter boys.
The way the media covers this, you'd think that the Catholic Church is the only religion on the planet.
@MikeyWell, when an event happens that is important to just over 16% of the world, you cover it.
@Mikey Just ask one. 76% of immigrants believe so - look where that has gotten us...
"immigrants"Â Don't you mean illegals or perhaps undocumented students.
Not so funny, Â how many wish to coverup the criminals by renaming them something that minimizes the great harm these criminals do to America.
If in the US illegally the criminal should be given two options on first offence, self deportation or execution, second offence only one option and it is not self deportation
Geez, you would think that if they were going to pope-a-rize a South American they would have found one named Jesus!
Pope Frank de A'sissy! Please tell me he is not a cross-dresser.
Is that some special Pope wave they do?
@I812Â Just wait for the new soap called, 'Pope-on-a-Rope.'
Oh, thank goodness...the suspense was killing me!
Will he have to participate in next week's Tribe Challenge?
Yes, next week on Survive the Vatican, how many sex scandal cases can be covered up in a 24 hour period!
@pdxd In all honesty, this new Pope has called the Catholic Church on protecting the many pedo's and things could actually change. We will see...
@boned @pdxd Be weary they will be coming after pigs next...
Then you will be deemed boned
Another Pope and I am sure he is just as disconnected with the progress of Earth as the rest of them were. Its not 1804 anymore Pope, catch up with the times.
In 2010 Berogli referred to same-sex marriage as a "destructive attack on Godâs plan.â Thankfully, Argentina ignored him and made marriage equality the LAW of the land!
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Not as gross as that photo attached to your screen name, double-snap
BTW, WIC called, your stamps are ready
@pdxd Bwaaahahahaha I had to log in and comment so you know I love tour reply to Welfair Chick/Â Hilarious!Â
@noneofyourbizzness And you expect anything else from someone who works for the Catholic Church? That won't change any time soon.
How did they get the cute dress made so fast? Â I hope he's not being forced to wear hand-me-downs.Â
@Sundowner They had 3 sizes already made up...small, medium, and "very healthy" (per the news). I think this Pope got the healthy size. :)Â
@Kymberlie2873 @Sundowner  Do they make special Pope Unmentionables, too?
@Sundowner @Mikey Outrageously funny!
@Mikey Papal pantaloonies....yep, that's what they're called.
I wonder if this papal choice has anything to do with the Falkland Islands dispute and the soon to be war over them.
@August100 Who better to call for a crusade, raise an army in the papal states, and crush that damn Anglican heresy once and for all.
@JTesla No One Expects the Argentinian Inquisition!