Congress looks at doing away with the $1 bill

WASHINGTON (AP) - American consumers have shown about as much appetite for the $1 coin as kids do their spinach. They may not know what's best for them either. Congressional auditors say doing away with dollar bills entirely and replacing them with dollar coins could save taxpayers some $4.4 billion over the next 30 years.
Vending machine operators have long championed the use of $1 coins because they don't jam the machines, cutting down on repair costs and lost sales. But most people don't seem to like carrying them. In the past five years, the U.S. Mint has produced 2.4 billion Presidential $1 coins. Most are stored by the Federal Reserve, and production was suspended about a year ago.
The latest projection from the Government Accountability Office on the potential savings from switching to dollar coins entirely comes as lawmakers begin exploring new ways for the government to save money by changing the money itself.
The Mint is preparing a report for Congress showing how changes in the metal content of coins could save money.
The last time the government made major metallurgical changes in U.S. coins was nearly 50 years ago when Congress directed the Mint to remove silver from dimes and quarters and to reduce its content in half dollar coins. Now, Congress is looking at new changes in response to rising prices for copper and nickel.
At a House subcommittee hearing Thursday, the focus was on two approaches:
The GAO's Lorelei St. James told the House Financial Services panel it would take several years for the benefits of switching from paper bills to dollar coins to catch up with the cost of making the change. Equipment would have to be bought or overhauled and more coins would have to be produced upfront to replace bills as they are taken out of circulation.
But over the years, the savings would begin to accrue, she said, largely because a $1 coin could stay in circulation for 30 years while paper bills have to be replaced every four or five years on average.
"We continue to believe that replacing the note with a coin is likely to provide a financial benefit to the government," said St. James, who added that such a change would work only if the note was completely eliminated and the public educated about the benefits of the switch.
Even the $1 coin's most ardent supporters recognize that they haven't been popular. Philip Diehl, former director of the Mint, said there was a huge demand for the Sacagawea dollar coin when production began in 2001, but as time wore on, people stayed with what they knew best.
"We've never bitten the bullet to remove the $1 bill as every other Western economy has done," Diehl said. "If you did, it would have the same success the Canadians have had."
Beverly Lepine, chief operating officer of the Royal Canadian Mint, said her country loves its "Loonie," the nickname for the $1 coin that includes an image of a loon on the back. The switch went over so well that the country also went to a $2 coin called the "Toonie."
Rep. Bill Huizenga, R-Mich., affirmed that Canadians have embraced their dollar coins. "I don't know anyone who would go back to the $1 and $2 bills," he said.
That sentiment was not shared by some of his fellow subcommittee members when it comes to the U.S. version.
Rep. Lacy Clay, D-Mo., said men don't like carrying a bunch of coins around in their pocket or in their suits. And Rep. Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y., said the $1 coins have proved too hard to distinguish from quarters.
"If the people don't want it and they don't want to use it," she said, "why in the world are we even talking about changing it?"
"It's really a matter of just getting used to it," said Diehl, the former Mint director.
Several lawmakers were more intrigued with the idea of using different metal combinations in producing coins.
Rep. Steve Stivers, R-Ohio, said a penny costs more than 2 cents to make and a nickel costs more than 11 cents to make. Moving to multiplated steel for coins would save the government nearly $200 million a year, he said.
The Mint's report, which is due in mid-December, will detail the results of nearly 18 months of work exploring a variety of new metal compositions and evaluating test coins for attributes as hardness, resistance to wear, availability of raw materials and costs.
Richard Peterson, the Mint's acting director, declined to give lawmakers a summary of what will be in the report, but he said "several promising alternatives" were found.
Vending machine operators have long championed the use of $1 coins because they don't jam the machines, cutting down on repair costs and lost sales. But most people don't seem to like carrying them. In the past five years, the U.S. Mint has produced 2.4 billion Presidential $1 coins. Most are stored by the Federal Reserve, and production was suspended about a year ago.
The latest projection from the Government Accountability Office on the potential savings from switching to dollar coins entirely comes as lawmakers begin exploring new ways for the government to save money by changing the money itself.
The Mint is preparing a report for Congress showing how changes in the metal content of coins could save money.
The last time the government made major metallurgical changes in U.S. coins was nearly 50 years ago when Congress directed the Mint to remove silver from dimes and quarters and to reduce its content in half dollar coins. Now, Congress is looking at new changes in response to rising prices for copper and nickel.
At a House subcommittee hearing Thursday, the focus was on two approaches:
- Moving to less expensive combinations of metals like steel, aluminum and zinc.
- Gradually taking dollar bills out the economy and replacing them with coins.
The GAO's Lorelei St. James told the House Financial Services panel it would take several years for the benefits of switching from paper bills to dollar coins to catch up with the cost of making the change. Equipment would have to be bought or overhauled and more coins would have to be produced upfront to replace bills as they are taken out of circulation.
But over the years, the savings would begin to accrue, she said, largely because a $1 coin could stay in circulation for 30 years while paper bills have to be replaced every four or five years on average.
"We continue to believe that replacing the note with a coin is likely to provide a financial benefit to the government," said St. James, who added that such a change would work only if the note was completely eliminated and the public educated about the benefits of the switch.
Even the $1 coin's most ardent supporters recognize that they haven't been popular. Philip Diehl, former director of the Mint, said there was a huge demand for the Sacagawea dollar coin when production began in 2001, but as time wore on, people stayed with what they knew best.
"We've never bitten the bullet to remove the $1 bill as every other Western economy has done," Diehl said. "If you did, it would have the same success the Canadians have had."
Beverly Lepine, chief operating officer of the Royal Canadian Mint, said her country loves its "Loonie," the nickname for the $1 coin that includes an image of a loon on the back. The switch went over so well that the country also went to a $2 coin called the "Toonie."
Rep. Bill Huizenga, R-Mich., affirmed that Canadians have embraced their dollar coins. "I don't know anyone who would go back to the $1 and $2 bills," he said.
That sentiment was not shared by some of his fellow subcommittee members when it comes to the U.S. version.
Rep. Lacy Clay, D-Mo., said men don't like carrying a bunch of coins around in their pocket or in their suits. And Rep. Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y., said the $1 coins have proved too hard to distinguish from quarters.
"If the people don't want it and they don't want to use it," she said, "why in the world are we even talking about changing it?"
"It's really a matter of just getting used to it," said Diehl, the former Mint director.
Several lawmakers were more intrigued with the idea of using different metal combinations in producing coins.
Rep. Steve Stivers, R-Ohio, said a penny costs more than 2 cents to make and a nickel costs more than 11 cents to make. Moving to multiplated steel for coins would save the government nearly $200 million a year, he said.
The Mint's report, which is due in mid-December, will detail the results of nearly 18 months of work exploring a variety of new metal compositions and evaluating test coins for attributes as hardness, resistance to wear, availability of raw materials and costs.
Richard Peterson, the Mint's acting director, declined to give lawmakers a summary of what will be in the report, but he said "several promising alternatives" were found.
It would make more sense to do away with Congress.
Dollar bills do so much more constructive work than they do.
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"Just as pro is the opposite of con, the opposite of Progress is Congress."- Last time I heard that one I kicked the slats out of my crib!
Do it! I've lived where the small denominations were coins, it worked just fine. Have we become such a wimpified country that we can't figure out the difference between a dollar and quarter? I made that mistake once with a Susan B Anthony dollar, and it happened only once. Suck it up, Americans!
 @drosen We can't even handle the metric system, how do you expect us to live without the $1 bill?
 @JTesla  @drosen Right!  In America, we should have a $1.98 coin instead.  ha ha.  Enough of this decimal nonsense. Â
Oh dear! Don't do it, think of the strippers!!!!
 @leapfrogger LMAO!!
They sag, and they sag, and then CRASH! jingle, jangle, jingle! OOPS!
 @Mikey  @leapfrogger Better be careful talking about stripper and using the phrase "they sag, they sag then crash"
 @leapfrogger The G-strings will have to have pockets now!
Whomever came up with this cockamamie idea,,surely didn't have women in mind..Dollar bills fold nicely or tuck nicely into a woman wallet/purse.. there isn't much room for coins.. womens slacks aren't designed to carry coins in the pockets..This had to of been the brainchild of a man...Its bad enough having to have all these other coins to pack around..adding more weight,,than this asinine idea promoting more crap to pack around..
 @Whitehawk Money bags strapped to your side will be the fashion in the future. Everyone will need a place to put their doubloons.
When the first developed the $1 coin, they screwed up royally. It is just too close to the quarter. But the vending industry built a whole infrastructure around this flawed design, and so we are stuck
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Unless we bite the bullet and obsolete the existing design's size and weight, it is still going to be too much like a quarter, and people will avoid using them. As I recall, the Sacajawea coins designers went through all sorts of metallurgy tricks to even change the color of the coin without invalidating every coin mechanism in existence. Making any substantial changes to size or weight is impossible without redoing every coin mechanism in the world.
So long as it's not the same size as a quarter, go for it! As I recall, that was the chief consumer complaint against the Sacagawea dollar. Cant say I've ever seen one of the Presidential $1 coins,
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And, while you're at it, why do we still have pennies?
 @MarkKpic Cause, when something comes to $1.99, and you have $2, you get a penny back. Did you really fail preschool math 16 times?Â
 @PortSCUM Yeah, because merchants wouldn't round up their prices from $1.99 to $2 if there were no more pennies. Nope, they'd just look at the poor slob who was expecting change and laugh.
I think they should make a .95 cent coin or a .99 cent coin. To amke this one coin they could eleminate ver half of the other coins.
Go for it. Plus make a two dollar coin to replace the two dollar bill and a five dollar coin with a 1/6th silver content. The 1 dollar coin should be introduced and no further printing of one dollar bills be authorized.
A dollar metal coin last a whole lt longer than a paper bill, and is cheaper to make! Go for it! One less piece of expensive paper to haul around.
While there at it, it's time to get rid of pennies. Â They aren't worth anything anymore and cost more than a penny to make. Â Nickles are getting iffy. Â
 @blotto Just get rid of everything under a quarter. And get rid of the half-dollar as well. Quarter coin and dollar coin. Change prices so everything rounds off at a quarter. How much worthwhile stuff can you really buy for under a quarter anymore? If it IS under a quarter, then sell it 2 for a quarter or three for a buck or whatever.
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Smaller denominations made sense when you could actually get something of value for a nickel or a dime, but times change and society needs to change with them. Why spend so much money producing coins and creating devices to use those coins when you just have to have enough of them to equal a quarter or dollar anyway?
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And with the advent of debit/payment cards, having coinage is less and less relevant each year.
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But, I suppose we will need something to fall back on when the power grids fail and those cards become worthless...but wait...the coins are worthless anyway! :-P
A better way to save money: When Congressmen retire (voted out, lose, etc) they should not get paid for the rest of their lives and receive benefits (unless they, like us, elect Cobra for medical). I would LOVE to see how much that would save the taxpayers. Lets face it, they serve for 4-8 years, lost and get beneies and pay for life. What a scheme. And we float the bill. Now this is something we the public should be outraged about and demand that they overturn not trying to save a buck by switching from a paper dollar to a coin version. Especially since they aren't doing anything to earn their current pay anyways.
The mistake the U.S. made was to keep the paper bills (and continuing to print them) while offering the coins only as an option. Why not do it the smart way, as Canada did, and take the paper bills out of circulation? Besides, loonies and twonies are just cool looking coins.
Didn't the feds try this before with the Susan B. Anthony and the Sacagawea dollar coins? Didn't really work out.
going to the dollar coin will cost the taxpayers a fortune as they will have to replace all their state lottery machines to accept the new dollar coin as well as the one dollar bill. it will also effect the retailers as they will have to get new machines to accept the dollar coin on self service checkouts.
 @32jim2 What store do you shop at that their self service checkouts don't take coins?Â
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Retards R' Us?
 @32jim2 most check out machines already take $1 coins, i remember lots of machines taking them as the Max has given them for change since it was built, as for the lottery machines, i dont know, but I will go for it if it will truly save money. Â
 @32jim2 "Vending machine operators have long championed the use of $1 coins because they don't jam the machines, cutting down on repair costs and lost sales" probably much the same for lottery machines and self service checkouts.
Well, if they do this, I hope they'll make the $1 coins different enough from quarters so it's easy to tell one from the other..! Â Â That's the main reason I didn't like the $1 coins.... Â Not a huge problem, though; I rarely carry much cash with me anyway...Â
 @margay1 Want to know how to tell the difference...
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One is gold color, the other is silver color. Colorblind much?
 @PortSCUM ~ Not colorblind at all, smart-aleck... but if you're trying to pick them out and you're somewhere that doesn't have very good lighting, it helps if the coins are different enough in size so you don't have to be able to see them...
Would these puppies de-rail a train? Or is that a myth?
Oh.... mythbusters time... I doubt it would but I would be interested to see if they could get permission to replicate the result...
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bring back the 3 dollar bill!
He's no longer President!
When are they going to start producing the Vice-Presidential dollar coins? I cant wait to see an Aaron Burr one used in a coin toss for a Superbowl that turns into a duel.
waste of taxpayer money and time on this, as we had previously the Sacajawea golden dollar, and a silver eagle dollar before that, and all of the previous attempts at forcing Americans to carry around heavy change has failed. dollars are lighter, we prefer them obviously. we are not England or Europe, so stop trying to make us be like them.
@Kat Pol "waste of taxpayer money..." Well, yes and no. They'll just mint enough coins to pay for themselves.Â
 @Kat Pol England is part of Europe, FYI.
 @medborgare  @Kat Pol Much to their dislike.
I'd have to start lighting my cigars with $5 bills instead of the usual $1.
Why doesn't Obama just make everything free to 'the poor' and steal it all from the rich to pay for it? Why mess with our money?
@Harry A. Ness Great, I've had to deal with years of blaming Bush for everything now I get years worth of blaming Obama for everything. This idea has been around for over a decade. OMG Obama has a time machine!
 @Harry A. Ness This isn't Obama's idea. This is the Congress. Try to keep up.
Producing 1400 fighter jets instead of 1443 fighter jets would save about $1.5 billion in ONE year. If Congress was serious about saving money and balancing the budget, they'd start with unnecessary military expenditures.
 @Old29 YES! And STOP buying the v-22 osprey and mothball the ones in service. they are a dangerous concept that should have never been built. Total waste of money.Â
How easy are these coins to counterfeit? If you can mass produce them in your garage with a smelter for say 50 cents.
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http://www.snopes.com/business/money/toonies.asp
@TimBurr You realize that the article you posted listed the counterfeiting claim as "False" right?
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The article was about telling if it was counterfeit or not by the size of the queens head, not that there aren't any counterfeit coins out there, which there are. All be it rare.
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/story/2010/04/21/toonie-fake.html
@TimBurr Much better article to illustrate your point. However, we're still talking 0.00003% being fake, far less than the Canadian $100 and $20 notes. In 2009 alone they found $2,706,100 worth of fake $100's, since 2003 they've found $8460 in fake Toonies.
So they want to save a measley 145 million/year. What about the cost to ALL the business' who will need new cash registers to accomodate the change in currency. Or the vending machine owners who will have to upgrade al of their equipment? Oh wait, the cash register makers will make millions so it's all good?  Why isn't Congress focusing on our immediate concerns? Quit dicking around with little crap like this and focus on the economy, jobs and taxes.Â
 @wondering Idk what registers you have been using, but ours had room for us to shove a lot of rolls in 2, so no issue...just store the rolls on top of them as per usual. not an issue.
 @Kat Pol  @wondering And as people pay you using these new coins? Where do those piles go?
I agree with that! And now if I happen to get $15 together all at once, the most I have is about 6 ounces of paper in my pocket. But fifteen coins? And walk around with that? Uh...no.