Fearful of ban, frenzied buyers swarm gun stores

NEW YORK (AP) — The phones at Red's Trading Post wouldn't stop ringing. Would-be customers from as far away as New York wanted to know if the Twin Falls, Idaho gun shop had firearms in stock. Others clamored to find out if their orders had been shipped.
Overwhelmed, gun store manager Ryan Horsley had to do what no employee would ever think of doing just days before Christmas: He disconnected the phone lines for three whole days.
"We had to shut everything off," says Horsley, whose family has owned Red's Trading Post, the state's oldest gun shop, since 1936. "We were swamped in the store and online."
The phones at gun shops across the country are ringing off the hook. Demand for firearms, ammunition and bulletproof gear has surged since the Dec. 14 massacre in Newtown, Conn., that took the lives of 20 schoolchildren and six teachers and administrators. The shooting sparked calls for tighter gun control measures, especially for military-style assault weapons like the ones used in Newtown and in the Aurora, Colo., movie theater shooting earlier this year. The prospect of a possible weapons ban has sent gun enthusiasts into a panic and sparked a frenzy of buying at stores and gun dealers nationwide.
Assault rifles are sold out across the country. Rounds of .223 bullets, like those used in the AR-15 type Bushmaster rifle used in Newtown, are scarce. Stores are struggling to restock their shelves. Gun and ammunition makers are telling retailers they will have to wait months to get more.
Store owners who have been in the business for years say they have never seen demand like this before.
When asked how much sales have increased in the past few weeks, Horsley just laughed.
"We haven't even had a chance to look at it," he says. Horsley spends his days calling manufacturers around the country trying to buy more items for the store. Mainly, they tell him he has to wait.
Franklin Armory, a firearm maker in Morgan Hill, Calif., is telling dealers that it will take six months to fulfill their orders. The company plans to hire more workers and buy more machines to catch up, says Franklin Armory's President Jay Jacobson.
The shortage is leaving many would-be gun owners empty handed.
William Kotis went to a gun show in Winston-Salem, N.C., last weekend hoping to buy a rifle for target shooting. Almost everything was sold out.
"Assault rifles were selling like crazy," says Kotis, who is president and CEO of Kotis Holdings, a real estate development company based in Greensboro. "People are stockpiling."
He left without buying anything.
Luke Orlando's parents were able to get him the 12-gauge shotgun he wanted for Christmas to bird hunt, but his uncle wasn't as lucky.
"At Christmas dinner, my uncle expressed outrage that after waiting six months to use his Christmas bonus to purchase an AR-15, they are sold out and back ordered over a year," says Orlando, 18, a student at the University of Texas.
No organization publically releases gun sales data. The only way to measure demand is by the number of background checks that are conducted when someone wants to buy a firearm. Those numbers are released by the Federal Reserve Bureau every month. Data for December is not out yet. But the Federal Bureau of Investigation says that it did 16.8 million firearm background checks as of the end of November, up more than 2 percent from a year ago.
The Colorado Bureau of Investigation, which handles background checks for the state, can't keep up with the number of requests it is getting. The bureau has pulled staff from other units and increased its hours, says spokesperson Susan Medina.
Many firearm dealers and manufacturers say that Obama's comments since the Newtown school shooting are driving demand.
James Zimmerman of SelwayArmory.com, a website that sells guns, ammunition and knives, says that sales really took off on Dec. 19 after Obama held a White House press conference announcing that Vice President Joe Biden would lead a team tasked with coming up with "concrete proposals" to curb gun violence.
That day, one customer ordered 32,000 rounds of ammunition from SelwayArmory.com, worth close to $18,000. The order had to be shipped from the company's Lolo, Mont., office to Kentucky on a freight truck.
"I've done more sales in the week after the 19th than I have the whole year," says Zimmerman, who launched SelwayArmory.com in 2009.
At Lady Liberty Gunsmithing LLC in Atlantic City, N.J., a customer called last week asking if a pistol he wanted was available. When he was told there was only one left, he drove more than two hours from Newark, N.J., to buy it that same day.
"People want guns now even more than ever," says Guy Petinga II, whose father opened the store above his home in 1996.
Others saw demand immediately after the shooting.
Bullet Blocker, which makes bulletproof vests, briefcases and insert panels, saw sales of its children's backpacks suddenly jump.
"That's how I found out about the tragedy. I saw the sales rise and then turned on CNN," says Elmar Uy, vice president of business operations at the Billerica, Mass., company.
Bullet Blocker has sold about 50 to 100 bulletproof backpacks a day since the shooting, up from about 10 to 15 in a regular week. The children's backpacks, which are designed to be used as shields, cost over $200 each.
"I've never seen numbers like this before," says Uy.
Overwhelmed, gun store manager Ryan Horsley had to do what no employee would ever think of doing just days before Christmas: He disconnected the phone lines for three whole days.
"We had to shut everything off," says Horsley, whose family has owned Red's Trading Post, the state's oldest gun shop, since 1936. "We were swamped in the store and online."
The phones at gun shops across the country are ringing off the hook. Demand for firearms, ammunition and bulletproof gear has surged since the Dec. 14 massacre in Newtown, Conn., that took the lives of 20 schoolchildren and six teachers and administrators. The shooting sparked calls for tighter gun control measures, especially for military-style assault weapons like the ones used in Newtown and in the Aurora, Colo., movie theater shooting earlier this year. The prospect of a possible weapons ban has sent gun enthusiasts into a panic and sparked a frenzy of buying at stores and gun dealers nationwide.
Assault rifles are sold out across the country. Rounds of .223 bullets, like those used in the AR-15 type Bushmaster rifle used in Newtown, are scarce. Stores are struggling to restock their shelves. Gun and ammunition makers are telling retailers they will have to wait months to get more.
Store owners who have been in the business for years say they have never seen demand like this before.
When asked how much sales have increased in the past few weeks, Horsley just laughed.
"We haven't even had a chance to look at it," he says. Horsley spends his days calling manufacturers around the country trying to buy more items for the store. Mainly, they tell him he has to wait.
Franklin Armory, a firearm maker in Morgan Hill, Calif., is telling dealers that it will take six months to fulfill their orders. The company plans to hire more workers and buy more machines to catch up, says Franklin Armory's President Jay Jacobson.
The shortage is leaving many would-be gun owners empty handed.
William Kotis went to a gun show in Winston-Salem, N.C., last weekend hoping to buy a rifle for target shooting. Almost everything was sold out.
"Assault rifles were selling like crazy," says Kotis, who is president and CEO of Kotis Holdings, a real estate development company based in Greensboro. "People are stockpiling."
He left without buying anything.
Luke Orlando's parents were able to get him the 12-gauge shotgun he wanted for Christmas to bird hunt, but his uncle wasn't as lucky.
"At Christmas dinner, my uncle expressed outrage that after waiting six months to use his Christmas bonus to purchase an AR-15, they are sold out and back ordered over a year," says Orlando, 18, a student at the University of Texas.
No organization publically releases gun sales data. The only way to measure demand is by the number of background checks that are conducted when someone wants to buy a firearm. Those numbers are released by the Federal Reserve Bureau every month. Data for December is not out yet. But the Federal Bureau of Investigation says that it did 16.8 million firearm background checks as of the end of November, up more than 2 percent from a year ago.
The Colorado Bureau of Investigation, which handles background checks for the state, can't keep up with the number of requests it is getting. The bureau has pulled staff from other units and increased its hours, says spokesperson Susan Medina.
Many firearm dealers and manufacturers say that Obama's comments since the Newtown school shooting are driving demand.
James Zimmerman of SelwayArmory.com, a website that sells guns, ammunition and knives, says that sales really took off on Dec. 19 after Obama held a White House press conference announcing that Vice President Joe Biden would lead a team tasked with coming up with "concrete proposals" to curb gun violence.
That day, one customer ordered 32,000 rounds of ammunition from SelwayArmory.com, worth close to $18,000. The order had to be shipped from the company's Lolo, Mont., office to Kentucky on a freight truck.
"I've done more sales in the week after the 19th than I have the whole year," says Zimmerman, who launched SelwayArmory.com in 2009.
At Lady Liberty Gunsmithing LLC in Atlantic City, N.J., a customer called last week asking if a pistol he wanted was available. When he was told there was only one left, he drove more than two hours from Newark, N.J., to buy it that same day.
"People want guns now even more than ever," says Guy Petinga II, whose father opened the store above his home in 1996.
Others saw demand immediately after the shooting.
Bullet Blocker, which makes bulletproof vests, briefcases and insert panels, saw sales of its children's backpacks suddenly jump.
"That's how I found out about the tragedy. I saw the sales rise and then turned on CNN," says Elmar Uy, vice president of business operations at the Billerica, Mass., company.
Bullet Blocker has sold about 50 to 100 bulletproof backpacks a day since the shooting, up from about 10 to 15 in a regular week. The children's backpacks, which are designed to be used as shields, cost over $200 each.
"I've never seen numbers like this before," says Uy.
I went down to Fisherman's Marine and Outdoor on Wednesday and their gun racks and cases were wiped cleaned of everything except a few bolt action rifles and the odd handgun. Same with Bi-mart and Wholesale Sports. Good thing I have all the guns I need. Always looking for more ammo. Don't tread on me! Thank you mr. Obama, America's #1 gun salesman four years running. I'm sure you have Clinton beat hands down. The Second Amendment lives. Molon Labe!
Some one once told me 3 warning signs of pending Civil War, Run on Guns, Run on the Banks and the revocation of rights.
Where are we at?
 @lee986321 Run on guns.  But your reasoning is all wrong.
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I was told there is a 3 year back order for assault rifles.  I can believe this.  On the gray market (person to person) , the price of an AK has gone from $890 to $2000.  So I guess you are going to have a run on the banks to buy guns.
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The problem is how to keep firearms out of idiots who want to go "out in a blaze of glory". Â Banning firearms or putting armed police at schools isn't going to solve this problem.
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Over reacting on both sides is just going to make this problem worse.Â
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Where there is fear, there are profits to be made.
Looks like a lot of Americans are smarter than the anti-gun idiots thought. Â Suggestion, Â buy some reloading equipment and supplies, because it wouldn't surprise me if they outlawed the sale of ammunition. Â The anti-gun, anti-American whackos want all of our guns, not just certain ones, so stay one step ahead of them.Â
 @boomer Who do you think's gonna show up at your doorstep once they learn you have stockpiled ammunition?
 @PDXguy23  @boomer You should ask that question to the treasonous cowards like Gov. Cuomo.
 @boomer People aren't buying all these weapons just to hand them right back to uncle sam I can tell you that much.
Stupid sheeple !
I will say this, it makes no difference the weapon of choice. If one is skilled and well trained , any thing can be just as deadly as a gun . A bow, a sling shot, Hell even a BB gun can have deadly consequences. and before you laugh at the notion of a BB/pellet gun not being deadly .. You don't know jack about how those can be modified to have near power of a 22 caliber pistol. They to can come in semi and full auto. And if you think this is a joke then you really have no clue about today's weapons. please you have no clue about those that hunt using air rifles in Britain because of the banned guns in Europe..Oh Yeah.. no there is one for the loop hole..BB/Pellet guns..a 16 year old can legally purchase one and mod it to see how ever a person sees fit..
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Like I said, Proficiency and Training. That is what makes a weapon truly lethal. Oh and I like some of those scopes that they have for the gun as well..and I like Vermin Rounds and PROMETHEUS AIR RIFLE PELLET.
and then you have the Large Bore air rifles..for..other vermin..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMiDaCdfVh8
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjqRaEfKxKQ
I also want to add one can make explosive tips as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJlvZaYGrU
Please not due to some highly graphical content I can not post some videos on the lethality of some Airguns.
What part of SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED do law makers not understand.
 @Jeremy The part where they want to create civil unrest..ehst they do not know is they will start a civil war.
 @lee986321  @Jeremy The gun nuts seem to be begging for civil unrest.
 @PDXguy23  @Jeremy Actaully Civil unrest comes from when government oversteps there bounderies and Plan for such an event by taking rights away, "Civil Unrest then becomes Civil War", PDX, You may want to think about a few things... 1 it is not us "Gun Nuts" that seek civil unrest, it is the government "taking the Freedoms away" for better "Security" PDX unless you understand this then you haven't a clue as to what is really happening.
And if you never heard the statement:
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"A country that takes away freedom for exchange of security, that country shall have neither freedom nor security."
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 @PDXguy23  @lee986321  @Jeremy Hmm, how do you figure that the people who want nothing more than to be left alone are the ones out begging for civil unrest, but it's some how not the fault of those agitating for the removal of civil rights, and threatening the use of force to make it happen?
Isn't media fueled paranoia interesting? And don't forget your bullet proof backpack. Why not just dress in full body armor? Then you could go down the road looking like Ralphie's little brother in 'A Christmas Story' after his mom gets him all dressed up to go to school, and he could not put his arms down.
and nice play on words..that will make me want to go right out an purchase a few guns to be part of the "in crowd" You Know I had a retaliative that said all gun owners are mentally ill? Damn...I feel for her Paranoia. She pissed me off by the way because my parents are farmers and they own guns.. she said if the shoe fits wear it..But then that is an ex addict for ya..also an ex inmate as well.. I guess felons fear those with guns. or are jealous because we can legally own a gun and they can't.
 @lee986321 A fair amount of it is also that they are projecting their own internal thought processes. They assume everyone is as impulsive and out of control as they are. Thankfully they couldn't be any further from the truth, and the vast majority of the populace is perfectly in control of themselves and have no homicidal thoughts or impulses no matter what stressors their day throws at them.
 @ChrisJ82 She did ask if I had a weapon in the house, I told her that it is none of her concern. My fiance backed me up stating I have no issues with him getting a weapon as long as our son can not get it.
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I grew up on a farm, I grew up around guns, Guns does not make a person big or bad, to me they are a tool to serve and to protect against anything that threatens family, live stock, or..if need be and I don't like this part, Put an animal down if it is to seriously injured.
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I think people are paranoid about the wrong issue, what they do need to be paranoid about is that at anytime , any place, a situation can pop up in which none of us have control over. I think what is happening is people are fearing guns, because that is what they, "think they can control" what they do not realize is a drunken driver could easily end there lives on a dark rainy night, if not a drunk driver then a speeding teen.
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What I think and believe is that people fear that they no longer feel safe and or seccure and they are blaming guns. The real issue isn't guns, it is that we have no control over what happens or can happen.
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I have a son, I have a family, I will do what it takes to make sure they are safe. If it means killing an intruder..it Will be done.. I hold human life sacred. but if sme else does not hold that same value and does not value my life, or my son's life or my fiance's life, then they do not value life.
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I just hope that day never comes.
and officer once said even a justifiable homicide is not an easy thing to get over. How ever if a threat presents its self, you can not afford to "Second Guess".
Dang, Gun sales seems seems to be the best trade. COOL.
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My friend works at a gun store and he has to work 6 days a week plus overtime right now. He is the only person who doesn't own a gun in the store and is the only friendly one there, so he gets the most sales!
Not sure it's all about fear. There's a good chance if the sale of these guns and clips from gun shops is banned and you buy a few now, you can sell them for a premium later. Many of these people aren't just trying to buy one.
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Lesson to politicians, if you want to keep guns off the street don't publicly push hard and fast for gun control. If you do more guns will be bought in a rush and flood out into the streets.
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That's what I think - it's the resale profit driving the demand and we know where those guns will end up - in the wrong hands most likely since they are the ones who will be willing to pay the price. Very few people with their head screwed on straight think they NEED an assault rifle.
"frenzied" -- just the word I want to be associated with a panicky and untrained owner of a shiny new assault weapon. Do they also sell shirts that praise the courage of those good ol' boys, Lanza, Holmes, and Loughner?
Fear is not a good reason to buy anything. Hopefully those reacting from fear will also educate themselves on the proper storage and use of their new purchases. The little tragedies caused by ignorance with guns add up to far more than all the mass shootings of 2012.
@JTesla I have one in particular that is a extreme right winger that is heavily influenced by Fox News and her evangelical Christian church.Nice person but not level headed enough to be owning a gun IMHO.She wants to get her CHL and carry her new revolver in her purse which that in itself is not a good idea.In case she needs to use it (scary idea) I don't think digging through her purse sounds like a disaster to me.
 @noneofyourbizzness  @JTesla Stuoid, Never put a weapon in a purse..one should always have it strapped to them..
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I have a number of conservative friends who have never been around guns their entire life impulsively buying guns.Some people are just not meant to guns.Ive done my best to steer them in the right direction as far as getting the proper training however.I still am comcerned about a couple of them.I just think this mania is a little over the top.Rushing into gun ownership in a panicked stae of mind just doesn't seem safe to me.
Oh my goodness! My grammar is atrocious today.
Mass Shooting at elementary school = Buy more guns? Good thinking America...
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I have never heard anything about gun rights being taken away from any of our current credible politicians. Maybe just assault rifles, which makes sense to me.Â
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This is the result of media hysteria and foolish people who live in total fear. If you buy guns after a bunch of kids get killed, you're pathetic.Â
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 @fulcrum Obviously you're not paying attention if you haven't heard anything about Feinstein's great plan.
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http://www.prisonplanet.com/american-gun-owners-to-be-fingerprinted-and-registered-feinstein-announces-nightmare-plan.html
@axpman Wow, that's an unbiased source if ever I saw one. I'll bet that's also where you heard that Obama is a Muslim, Kenyan, and Communist, eh? Peh!
@portlandborn83 Alex Jones is an idiot and a lunatic. You can't have a radio show and call yourself "anti-media" because radio is a part of media. Crazy neocons are so opposed to facts and truth that they think they can just redefine words because otherwise their points make absolutely no sense. If you have a tv show, radio show, printed column or online blog, you are by definition a part of the media. Words have meanings and we need to start by agreeing to all play by the dictionary.
 @ChrisJ82 Sorry, but the ones in hysterics are gun nuts, as evidenced by both the mad scrambling for weapons and panicking over Feinstein's very sensible proposals. Here's a link for you to try, but it doesn't has as much frothing at the mouth so you might be a little bored by it: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alan-colmes/right-wing-freaking-out-a_b_2377291.html
 @badcat Do you not know what I am talking about?  Infowars is the anti-media.  They take what the media puts out, compiles it, and spits it out into a concise story framing it in a manner that is exactly opposite of the mainstream position.  I love it because on many levels they are totally correct in what they publish even though its pretty biased and "hardcore."
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The regular media is pretty hardcore as well, check this out:
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This piers morgan dude is a total nutjob and exemplifies everything that is wrong with modern media. Â There is someone exactly the opposite of this man, and his name is alex jones!
 @badcat You mean like how that pages first link is to Feinstein's own page on the matter? http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/assault-weapons
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It's no wonder you people are up in hysterics, you don't have the semblance of a thought among you.
 @badcat  @portlandborn83 The Feinstein plan is all over the internet on several unbiased websites and the way she has written this piece of crap is just vague enough to make law abiding gun owners very nervous.
 @portlandborn83 "Anti-media"? Is that the voices in my head, the guy shouting on the streetcorner, or what?
@badcat There's two sides to every story, what the media tells you, and what the anti-media tells you. The truth likely lies in between the two.
'Fearful of ban, frenzied buyers swarm gun stores'
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...oh, goodie. The 'unbiased' AP writer got to use the words fear, frenzied and guns all in the same headline. He must be so proud.
Fear mongerers' finest hour.
if it's only one thing that conservatives would agree on, it's that obama has been fantastic for the gun manufacturers