Four firefighters shot, two killed responding to fire 'trap' in NY

WEBSTER, N.Y. (AP) — A gunman ambushed four volunteer firefighters responding to an intense pre-dawn house fire Monday morning outside Rochester, N.Y., killing two and ending up dead himself, authorities said. Police used an armored vehicle to evacuate more than 30 nearby residents.
The gunman fired at the firefighters when they arrived shortly after 5:30 a.m. at the blaze near the Lake Ontario shore in Webster, town Police Chief Gerald Pickering said. The first Webster police officer who arrived chased the suspect and exchanged gunfire with him, authorities said.
"It does appear it was a trap" for the first responders to the fire, Pickering said at a news conference.
Authorities didn't say how the gunman died or whether anyone might have died in the fire itself.
One of the dead firefighters was also a town police lieutenant; it wasn't clear whether he returned fire. An off-duty police officer who was driving by was injured by shrapnel, Pickering said.
"These people get up in the middle of the night to go put out fires; they don't expect to be shot and killed," Pickering said.
The fire started in one home and spread to two others and a car, officials said. The gunfire initially kept firefighters from battling the blazes. Police say four homes were destroyed and four damaged.
The West Webster Fire District learned of the fire early Monday after a report of a car and house on fire on Lake Road, on a narrow peninsula where Irondequoit Bay meets Lake Ontario, Monroe County Sheriff Patrick O'Flynn said.
The fire appeared from a distance as a pulsating ball of flame glowing against the early morning sky, flames licking into treetops and reflecting on the water, with huge bursts of smoke billowing away in a brisk wind.
Two of the firefighters arrived on a fire engine and two in their own vehicles, Pickering said. After the gunman fired, one of the wounded men managed to flee, but the other three couldn't because of flying gunfire.
A police armored vehicle was used to recover two of the men, and eventually it evacuated 33 people from nearby homes, the police chief said.
The dead men were identified as Police Lt. Michael Chiapperini, 43, the Webster Police Department's public information officer; and Tomasz Kaczowka, also a 911 dispatcher, whose age was not released.
Pickering described Chiapperini as a "lifetime firefighter" with nearly 20 years with the department, and called Kaczowka a "tremendous young man."
The two wounded firefighters, Joseph Hofsetter and Theodore Scardino, were in guarded condition in the intensive care unit at Strong Memorial Hospital, authorities said. Both were awake and alert and are expected to recover.
Hofsetter, also a full-timer with the Rochester Fire Department, was hit once in the pelvis, and the bullet lodged in his spine, authorities said. Scardino was hit in the chest and knee.
Monday's shooting and fires were in a neighborhood of seasonal and year-round homes set close together across the road from the lakeshore. The area is popular with recreational boaters but is normally quiet this time of year.
"We have very few calls for service in that location," Pickering said. "Webster is a tremendous community. We are a safe community, and to have a tragedy befall us like this is just horrendous."
O'Flynn lamented the violence, which comes on the heels of other shootings including the massacre of 20 students and six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn.
"It's sad to see that that this is becoming more commonplace in communities across the nation," O'Flynn said.
Gov. Andrew Cuomo said the State Police and Office of Emergency Management were working with local authorities.
"Volunteer firefighters and police officers were injured and two were taken from us as they once again answered the call of duty," Cuomo said in a statement. "We as the community of New York mourn their loss as now two more families must spend the holidays without their loved ones."
Webster, a middle-class suburb, now is the scene of violence linked to house fires for two Decembers in a row.
Last Dec. 7, authorities say, a 15-year-old boy doused his home with gasoline and set it ablaze, killing his father and two brothers, 16 and 12. His mother and 13-year-old sister escaped with injuries. He is being prosecuted as an adult.
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Associated Press writers Chris Carola, George Walsh and Mary Esch in Albany, N.Y., contributed to this report.
Copyright 2012 The Associated Press.
The Judge that did not lock up this animal for the rest of his life = no blame
The parole board that decided this cretin was no longer a threat to society = no blame
This psychopath that places no value on human life = no blame
The gun he possessed illegally and used on innocent people = GUILTY OF THIS MASSACRE.  Â
 @Siwash I realize your sarcasm, but I would blame ALL FOUR of those things.
This thing was done by a paroled murderer who beat his 92-year-old grandmother to death with a hammer.Â
More glaring evidence of why we should never allow these animals out of their cages..
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@StealthActivist I fully agree with you and others like him.
Yes America does have a gun problem, do you need any more proof?
@CorporateCowMoo --- and what is your solution? Looks like we need to be ever vigilant for evil to raise it's ugly head. When it does blow it to kingdom come.
What the hell is wrong with these people! RIP firefighters.
@dkgiovenco --- My heart goes out to the families of these men.
What the hell is this world coming to. Firefighters are there every day to help and save people. Some s**t bag wants to not only kill them but set up an ambush just to do it. I am becoming ashamed of my species.Â
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 @Caspertoo I agree the lack of mental health CARE, but not laws.  We don't want laws legislating our medical care (laws to take care of it, yes, but forcing us or demanding a certain treatment or protocol, no).
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No one should be forced to take medication. Â There are reasons why it is better to not take it or to at least work with knowledgable providers in coming up with a proper dosage and course of treatment. Â There can be some pretty severe reactions to many of the meds. Â I was on Wellbutrin (bupropion) for a pain management treatment option. Â It made me very angry and I wanted to physically hurt someone. Â That isn't my normal nature. Â Oh, and those bridge spans -- they look so pretty. Â I wonder what it would feel like if I just veered over to one and... Â Needless to say, I stopped taking them pretty dang quick.
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Most murder-suicides are either done because one person *might* be sick and dying and the other can't force themselves to live without the other, because the relationship is not working and it is the only "out" the killer can face, often drugs and/or alcohol (legally used or otherwise) play a significant roll, and on and on. Â They aren't done because someone is simply mentally ill.
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If you ever take a psychology course, you'll learn that mental health diagnosis is subjective without absolute proof. Â There isn't a test or labwork that will necessarily say someone is ill (evolution into brain mapping might be changing this -- ironically some of the stuff happening in the department the Colorado guy was going to school for -- and also working on illness-specific treatment). Â Many of the diagnosis overlap so treatment for one may not work for the other and, if you're improperly diagnosed,Â
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I firmly believe treatment for and of the mentally ill needs to change but institutionalizing them (whether the jail or a hospital-type setting) isn't always the best answer, either. Â Family and friends, though, should be given the opportunity (and the police who have "problem" clients) to legally have these people committed at least for a significant period of time (longer than the 72 hour psych hold -- one to two weeks minimum but not used excessively) so that they can be safely looked after and given the proper diagnosis and work on formulating an agreeable treatment. Â I think a consensus among friends, family, and medical professionals should be able to allow for this type of treatment. Â I think the mental health community should work out the details with the courts, police, other first responders, etc.
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And, FWIW, you can't force someone to take their oral meds. Â The court might require it but you can't tell if someone is taking it, palming it, or just ignoring it. Â If you require them to take the medication, are you willing to pay for it (hey, it's less expensive than a jail cell!)?
I'm glad he's dead. Prayers and condolences to the families and friends of the two firefighters who were killed. And prayers for the two critically injured firefighters in the hospital, that they recover from their wounds.
Rest in Peace to my brother firefighters, and many condolences to their families and their community.
I think there's alot more going on in Webster then we know at this time. The NRA is right ...we need to find jobs for all the men comming home from the War...lets put them in the Schools as armed guards and teach them to watch for the troubled Kids.
 @Glen and Toby You gunna pay for that?
@Glen and Toby I hope you are kidding.
The liberals are going to be foaming more at the mouth about there so called "gun control" measures now. The news is hyper inflating every gun related story they can muster right now. :(
@Liberty4_WA This particular liberal starts foaming at the mouth when people don't know the difference between "there" and "their." And sometimes "they're" gets thrown in where it shouldn't be. Just because they sound the similar to the uneducated does not mean the words are interchangeable in print. And now that the foam has started, let me say that we don't need to hyperinflate anything. Who in the world thinks that shoolting 70 people in a theater, 20 first graders and 6 staff members in a school, or setting a fire in order to knock off the firefighters isn't a problem? And the availability and firepower of guns is part (a big part) of it.
@Liberty4_WA I know right! It's crazy! These idiots that don't see what a beautiful world it would be if everybody had a gun on them. Those close minded liberals. Guns, guns, guns Wahoo I love guns!
 @dboon4  @Liberty4_WA Trust me, there are plenty of people out there you wouldn't want to have a gun anywhere near them!  I'm one of them.
 @Liberty4_WA They're inflating every gun story except the ones where guns save lives, and there've been a few. Also there's the one from last night where NBC's David Gregory broke DC law on national television when he had a greater than 10rnd magazine in his possession. Convenient how the news and the police are looking the other way on that.
What a sick POS.  Let's leave him/her/it in a cloud of anonymity and just label it as "faceless evil".
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To the families of the fallen firefighters, I hope your loved ones names are known to the world and remembered always for their sacrifice may they rest in peace.
 @negativerep That's right!  The names of the firefighters, their families (if they agree) and their colleagues.  Nameless obscurity for the perpetrator.
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Regards to their families and friends. Â This isn't turning out to be much of a holiday season. Â (Although I'm sure a lot of violence happens every holiday but we've heard about so much this year.)
I think we should have armed guards at every fire. Then this would never happen again. More guns!
This article must have been written by a drunk 7 year old! Â Given the politically charged atmosphere regarding anything to do with shootings or guns, writing an article like this is unforgivable. Â Now with that said on to the scheduled program.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_New_York
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New York maintains a state level prohibition against the features listed in the now defunct Federal Assault Weapons Ban.  Magazines made after 1994 with a capacity in excess of 10 rounds are banned, as are rifles with two or more of the restricted features (pistol grip, bayonet lug, collapsible or folding stock, flash suppressor, and threaded barrel).
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Despite the restrictive laws, even though the restrictive laws have been in place for a long time now, stuff like this still happens - crazies and criminals still shoot up the night in New York.Â
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Why does anyone think it'll be different if we enact this on a national level?
looks like KATU updated the article, finally. Â That first attempt was pure tripe!
 @Umhal "Given the politically charged atmosphere regarding anything to do with shootings or guns, writing an article like this is unforgivable"
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Given the nature of the people shot this article would have been written regardless of the what political topic is hip at the moment. Considering that first responders appear to have been the target I hope that this crime receives more press despite today's political climate.
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New York is having trouble keeping boot leg cigarettes out and losing millions to street sellers.
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That harder the government tries to grab control the more they lose their grip.
 @RalphCramden That's the inherent problem with regulation, right?  I wonder why more people can't see that!?
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Most folks do not see cause and effect. The result is the Law of Unintended Consequences.
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With firearms there is the largest rush to get more guns, ammo and magazines in the history of the US. This will go on till congress either drops the whole issue or they pass more gun laws that won't work. Then commerce will find away around it like they did the first assault weapons ban.
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A classic example is the UK "rich tax". They increased the taxes on the rich to 51% and tax revenues dropped almost a billion dollars. The rich just moved their money out of the UK and adjusted how they take their income.
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The same will happen in the US when they get down to taxing the rich.
First responders of this type are often lumped into a target pool (cops, ambulance drivers and others). Â SO unfair because the firefighters are not armed! Â I hope this guy is caught because this is the type who might go on to do it again.Â
 @BCH mom And implying that it is "fair" to shoot police because they are armed is just silly.  I'm really hoping that's not what you meant.
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Just an FYI, calling someone an ambulance driver is highly offensive. In Multnomah county ambulance drivers (called paramedics) have degrees and can do things that nurses can't and have skill sets that ER docs have.
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In rural areas there are ambulance drivers but this is rare and only if there isn't enough EMT's to drive the ambulance.
 @RalphCramden  @BCH mom  Was just gonna say, a paramedic friend of mine schooled me up big time the first time I said "ambulance driver." Never put those two words together again for the rest of my career.
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There was a time when they were ambulance drivers but that was long ago.
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Glad you got schooled by a friend. Some paramedics are not to friendly when called an ambulance driver.
what was in that house that the shooter did not want the firefighters to see?Â
 @momo Probably nothing. The fire was just to lure them into the trap.
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These are typically not set to cover anything up since the gunman usually offs himself after setting the fire. This is just his way of flipping everyone the bird as he goes out in a blaze of glory.  Mentally unbalanced for sure. Perhaps he wasn't breast fed as a child or didn't get the GI Joe with the kung-fu grip? Some real or imagined grievance I'm sure.
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Regardless, a very sad day for the families of those brave firefighters. Rest in peace.