MSNBC criticized for editing of gun hearing video
NEW YORK (AP) — MSNBC invited viewers Wednesday to draw their own conclusions about whether the parent of a Connecticut school shooting victim was heckled at a legislative hearing but didn't address criticism that it aired a deceptively edited video of the event.
The NBC-owned cable news network found itself under attack for its editing practices less than a year after three employees of NBC or an NBC-owned station lost their jobs over the editing of a 911 call in the Trayvon Martin case.
On Monday, MSNBC's Martin Bashir reported on hearing testimony given that day by Neil Heslin, whose 6-year-old son, Jesse, was killed last month in the elementary school massacre in Newtown, Conn.
In the hushed hearing room, Heslin said, "I ask if there's anybody in this room that can give me one reason or challenge this question: why anybody in this room needs to have ... one of these assault-type weapons or military weapons or high-capacity clips?"
Heslin paused for five seconds and looked around him. No one else spoke.
"Not one person can answer that question," he said.
Then, someone in the audience shouted: "The Second Amendment shall not be infringed."
After the audience was admonished by a legislator not to speak, Heslin said, "Anyway, we're all entitled to our own opinion, and I respect their opinions and thoughts, but I wish they'd respect mine and give it a little bit of thought."
Video aired by Bashir Monday omitted the challenge, depicting Heslin saying: "Why anybody in this room needs to have ... one of these assault-type weapons or military weapons." At that point, without any pause, the audience member's interjection about the Second Amendment was heard. Heslin's comment about respecting opinions was omitted.
The camera then focused on Bashir, who said, "a father's grief interrupted by the cries of a heckler."
The passage as aired by MSNBC received criticism for being deceptive.
"This is not how a legitimate, professional news organization operates," said Brent Bozell, founder of the Media Research Center, a conservative media watchdog. "MSNBC's relentless anti-gun advocacy is bad enough, but this is downright dishonest."
MSNBC spokeswoman Lauren Skowronski did not immediately address questions about why MSNBC made the changes or whether criticism that it was misleading is valid.
Bashir was out sick on Wednesday, but substitute anchor Ari Melber said Bashir had made note of questions about whether Heslin had been heckled. MSNBC then played an unedited video of the passage in question.
"Martin and others have called that interruption heckling," Melber said. "Some disagree. He wanted you to hear that in full so you can draw your own conclusions."
Melber said nothing on the air about the fact that it initially aired an edited portion of the video.
Last spring, NBC's "Today" show and its Miami station WTVJ aired versions of a police emergency call made by Florida neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman that emphasized his identification of Trayvon Martin as a black man, before Zimmerman shot Martin. Zimmerman had given his description of Martin after a dispatcher asked about his race but that portion of the tape wasn't initially aired. NBC later apologized.
The NBC-owned cable news network found itself under attack for its editing practices less than a year after three employees of NBC or an NBC-owned station lost their jobs over the editing of a 911 call in the Trayvon Martin case.
On Monday, MSNBC's Martin Bashir reported on hearing testimony given that day by Neil Heslin, whose 6-year-old son, Jesse, was killed last month in the elementary school massacre in Newtown, Conn.
In the hushed hearing room, Heslin said, "I ask if there's anybody in this room that can give me one reason or challenge this question: why anybody in this room needs to have ... one of these assault-type weapons or military weapons or high-capacity clips?"
Heslin paused for five seconds and looked around him. No one else spoke.
"Not one person can answer that question," he said.
Then, someone in the audience shouted: "The Second Amendment shall not be infringed."
After the audience was admonished by a legislator not to speak, Heslin said, "Anyway, we're all entitled to our own opinion, and I respect their opinions and thoughts, but I wish they'd respect mine and give it a little bit of thought."
Video aired by Bashir Monday omitted the challenge, depicting Heslin saying: "Why anybody in this room needs to have ... one of these assault-type weapons or military weapons." At that point, without any pause, the audience member's interjection about the Second Amendment was heard. Heslin's comment about respecting opinions was omitted.
The camera then focused on Bashir, who said, "a father's grief interrupted by the cries of a heckler."
The passage as aired by MSNBC received criticism for being deceptive.
"This is not how a legitimate, professional news organization operates," said Brent Bozell, founder of the Media Research Center, a conservative media watchdog. "MSNBC's relentless anti-gun advocacy is bad enough, but this is downright dishonest."
MSNBC spokeswoman Lauren Skowronski did not immediately address questions about why MSNBC made the changes or whether criticism that it was misleading is valid.
Bashir was out sick on Wednesday, but substitute anchor Ari Melber said Bashir had made note of questions about whether Heslin had been heckled. MSNBC then played an unedited video of the passage in question.
"Martin and others have called that interruption heckling," Melber said. "Some disagree. He wanted you to hear that in full so you can draw your own conclusions."
Melber said nothing on the air about the fact that it initially aired an edited portion of the video.
Last spring, NBC's "Today" show and its Miami station WTVJ aired versions of a police emergency call made by Florida neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman that emphasized his identification of Trayvon Martin as a black man, before Zimmerman shot Martin. Zimmerman had given his description of Martin after a dispatcher asked about his race but that portion of the tape wasn't initially aired. NBC later apologized.
So.... what you're telling me is that the mainstream media is pushing an agenda using propoganda and PR?
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WOW... what a revelation!
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KATU, it is time that we know the truth of the matter.
Why are journalist doing this..Why are Journalist being deceitful?
Why is this abuse taking place? Is there not any thing that can make it stop? Are not Journalist suppose to be with out bias? Are they not supposed to suede by untruths an hypocrisies?
Why is the Mainstream media doing this. CNN, MSN, FOX, even you have misrepresented the facts? What is going on with the AP? Why is AP the go to source for all Media? shouldn't there be independent journalism to preserve integrity..
Fox News takes things out of context all the time. What's the hassle?
 @peckishpete The "hassle" is that it's wrong whether it's done by Fox News, MSNBC or any other "news" source.
They will stop at nothing to try to convince the masses that a ban on assault weapons will make us all safer. The people that have them and use them on others are not the ones who will be affected by this ban. The cartels, the gangs, the criminal element in society do not register their weapons, and they are drooling about the prospect of Joe Citizen being more vulnerable. THEY are why the rest of us need to protect ourselves. But the government wants us to respond to assault weapon attacks with single shot weapons. Yeah, I feel safer, don't you?
 @Kachina the ignorant ahve to look at Australia and see what they have become, but then again, the ignorant are to dumb to know what happened when Australia and other countries lost there guns. They also lost there freedoms. and in some areas in Australia, in the out backs, they DO HAVE GUNS. but the more that media pushes this crap, the more people should resist.
@lee986321 Please enlighten us, what freedomes have they lost in Australia?
"They took the whole Cherokee Nation Put us on this reservation Took away our ways of life The tomahawk and the bow and knife Took away our native tongue And taught their English to our young And all the beads we made by hand Are nowadays made in Japan Cherokee people, Cherokee tribe So proud to live, so proud to die They took the whole Indian Nation Locked us on this reservation Though I wear a shirt and tie I'm still part red man deep inside Cherokee people, Cherokee tribe So proud to live, so proud to die But maybe someday when they've learned Cherokee Nation will return Will return... Will return... Will return... "            John D. Loudermilk
 @myopinion240 they even persecuted those from Ireland and and Scotland stating "Irish need not apply." We not only did this the Cherokees, but to the other tribes as well.
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My great Grandfather had his home taken from him. You know the cemetery of the unknown soldiers...yeah..and I search further, find more lies and deceptions including the lies and deceptions that lead up to my adoption.
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So the lies, deceptions is what modern US has built its foundation up on, Lies and deceptions will destroy the US as we know it. You all just better be prepare.Â
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I feel bad for what has happened to the Native American Indians.
I feel bad for those who are underprivileged unable to seek better education
because we have became a nation that has started to use bloodline as a form of guaranteed employment in high status.
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So I say, so mote it be, this Nation, is No more. It is no longer the nation we have grown to know and appreciate, it is...a Harlot, a prostitute, a sharlitan, She has made her bead, she has slept with corruption and has become corrupted at her core.
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And because of all that has been done in her bead, she spreads disease to all, she is filled with AIDS , Gonorrhea, and Syphilis and has became a nation of ill-dispute.
You may not like the picture I have painted . But this is what I see the United States as. Should I leave the US, No, where would one go? No, what needs to take place is removing the corruption, by force if necessary so that she can begin to heal.
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The United states need to give back that which she has taken.
@myopinion240 "Yes Mr Clark I give it a 90% its got a beat and I can dance to it."
HECKLED???????????????? He asked the question...only ONE person in the audience had the b*lls to answer, quoting the constitution with 7 words! And that makes it "Heckeling"? More typical news media sensationalizing as they cannot find anything proper to say.
And my understanding is that in the last several shootings, none were actually AR15's. Most were handguns, which were carried as concealed weapons. So, apparently, the shootings did not happen, because, after all, it is agains the law to carry a concealed weapon without a permit...so it must be a figment of everyones imigination. Gabby's husband said it all at the gun hearing..."thousands of laws against gun violence", none are being enforced. All the gov't needs to do is enforce the existing ones...perhaps increase the penalties for violations. New laws will make no difference, because LE, whether city, state, or federal, will not enforce them any more than they do immigration laws.Â
Here is a huge lie that the media is spreading.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/abc-cbs-nbc-admit-no-assault-rifle-used-at-sandy-hook.html
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There was no AR15 used at Sandy Hook. In fact there is some speculation that the gun everyone is talking about being an AR15 was in fact a shotgun and was left in the car.
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All the deaths were caused by handguns.
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The media also say that he was wearing a bullet proof vest which he was not.
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NEVER TRUST THE MEDIA. They rarely get it right and they do have an agenda.
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 @RalphCramden You, know those who lie about the facts can never be trusted, the media will get there just rewards. AND we have been warned, And let them that have ears hear and them that have eyes, let them see, because the times are now In which they will seek to even fool the very wise.. You know you may hate the bible, but it does have a point with regards to today's issues and what is coming. We now have the very Media spewing lies and misconceptions.
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You all want to know the truth?
1 Timothy 4:1
The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons
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Satan is going to bring great deceptions to this world in these end times, to deceive as many people as he can and keep them from Christ's kingdom. Revelation 12:17
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This will and can include media lying about things and a great deal of other things.
Like or not we Are Being Deceived in all areas. To get people to buy in to a lie, all the lie has be repeated over and over. look some you may not like the bible, but it does have some wisdom with regards to to days topics.
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You may not like it but some times the facts are just that, facts, facts that can not be changed, altered , snugged away , shrugged off, or what ever you will.
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Look people, in plain simple words, it is going to get worse. What you are looking at is the new way media is doing things. Look at movies now a days. Your eyes can be deceived in to thinking something is fact..Ever see Men in black? Can you tell what is real and what is fake?
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If they can put into a seen a Rocket and its entire platform, or make the person look like there falling 100's of feet. when in fact there jumping 2 feet, You tell me is it possible that the media can generate the same thing? Is it possible that some actors can be totally digital and you wouldn't know the difference?
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I know that this is a small forum with limited people on it.
I have seen the technology first hand on how things can be created , manipulated to serve a pupose. My Moto, Trust no media on events such as this unless you thoroughly have investigated evey thing. We have to be the investigators now, We have to determine what is true and what is not true. we are the ones that now must rely on our own brains to do the thinking for us. I do not trust any main stream media. Especially when there are only 4 major corporations. why do you think KATU and its competitor use the same "YouNews" format for posting videos. Go a head...Investigate it. you will find that it is true.
@RalphCramden If they didn't make this stuff up to support their agenda, then what would they do? Hmm, being honest would be a good start. Journalists are not journalists anymore, they are partisan mouthpieces who are not allowed to think for themselves.
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Few journalists tell the truth anymore. They will adjust the story to fit their agenda.
This is not news.
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MSNBC and FOX News both color their reports and opinion arguments. You chose which color of KoolAide trips your trigger then let them fill your head with carefully edited and repeated contentions of innaccurate data that supports your chosen bend.
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 And you say "Rah, Rah!" and go around spreading the word in misguided ignorance.
Fools whichever style of talking head blather trips your trigger.
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It doesn't matter which one you like - they're all simply TV evangelists in a competitive market collecting multimillion dollar paychecks if they attract you, their believers, to watch them.
With the liberal media & our government, "the ends justify the means." It's ok to lie and manipulate because it furthers the Utopist agenda.
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Just for you special libs out there.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/30/obama-keet-shooting-all-time-hardly-sources-say/#ixzz2JVcSeyMG
Yeah I heard the edited an original versions. and if this is the way News is going...then who an what can be trusted?
Well the truth really changes the complexion of that whole exchange; he challenged the entire room.
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Itâs a shame that the bias of KATU keeps us from reading articles such as this.
MSNBC........social engineering by data manipulation.
@Rob C 503 just like Fox News but on the other side of the coin.
Any surprises here? The anti-gun bias is very prevalent in all of today's media. That includes internet news blogs.
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I'm damn Liberal in my opinions but I'm disgusted by the unrelenting media hysteria. The whole anti-gun hysteria is being pushed through exactly like the Patriot Act and the Iraqi War were both pushed through on the heals of a national tragedy and exploiting every last emotional image and sound bite for maximum effect. Â
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The Patriot Act and the Iraqi War both took flight on the wings of lies and have limited freedom in America, curtailed civil rights, increased government controls, starved the economy, and harmed the middle class.  And, neither has done a damn thing to improve American safety.
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Anytime anyone promises that you can give up your Rights or Liberties in exchange for safety, know that they are lying. It is a fairy tail; don't trade your precious cow for a handful of magic beans. The only thing that can make you safer is personal responsibility and making friends with your neighbors which....for anyone who thinks about it for a moment....is exactly what is being discouraged. We're told fear our neighbor and leave the driving to the government.
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Violence is the issue and it doesn't matter if it is guns or hammers or diesel fuel fertilizer bombs until violence is eliminated homicides will happen. The oldest story of homicide didn't involve a gun.
 @Icarus  @randomdude Sounds like modern T. Jefferson, any one willing to give up freedom for security shall have neither freedom nor security...or something a long those lines..But hey , those under 30, they haven't any idea what any of this means. cause they never had the education on the constitution. But what do they care...they all want gimme , gimme, gimme..Maybe a Civil war is needed to slap some reality in to folks.
 @randomdude What MSNBC would never do that. They are so pro gun. They have no bias.
Ahhh...the media...I'm reminded of BBC reporting the collapse of WTC Bldg 7 .... 20 minutes BEFORE it fell!!!
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http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/bbc_wtc7_videos.html
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Where's my tinfoil?
 @str1ngb3nd3r Yeah, I remember "Pull" it.
 @str1ngb3nd3r oh and the fireman stating that there were explosives.
 @str1ngb3nd3r oh and 1 word..Thermate.
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Down the memory hole with you!Â
It's unpatriotic to question the official storyline, haven't you heard?