Report: NM teen had homicidal, suicidal thoughts
ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) - The New Mexico teenager accused of fatally shooting his parents and three younger siblings told police he had been having homicidal and suicidal thoughts.
According to a probable cause statement, a Bernalillo County sheriff's detective questioned 15-year-old Nehemiah Griego on Saturday about the killings at the family home in a rural area southwest of Albuquerque.
The statement says Griego told the detective he first shot his mother as she was sleeping and then shot a younger brother in the same room and then two younger sisters in another.
It says he then told the detective he waited for his father to return home and then gunned him down.
Sheriff's spokesman Deputy Aaron Williamson said Monday he couldn't immediately comment on the document.
According to a probable cause statement, a Bernalillo County sheriff's detective questioned 15-year-old Nehemiah Griego on Saturday about the killings at the family home in a rural area southwest of Albuquerque.
The statement says Griego told the detective he first shot his mother as she was sleeping and then shot a younger brother in the same room and then two younger sisters in another.
It says he then told the detective he waited for his father to return home and then gunned him down.
Sheriff's spokesman Deputy Aaron Williamson said Monday he couldn't immediately comment on the document.
I read on another news site that this 15-year-old (the family's last name is "Griego") had apparently not had any previous encounters with local LEOs...Â
sfgate.com has the full AP story on this; there's quite a bit more info there...Â
All in all, it looks like this teen had some really serious mental issues that were not being addressed, for whatever reasons... I'm wondering if he might have been on some meds that led to this (or helped, anyway)... also wondering if his mental issues might have been why he was home-schooled... many questions; not many answers yet...
 @margay1 He was the right age for schizophrenia (or manic depression) to be forming.  If the family were strictly religious, they may have felt that God would make the situation better rather than getting their son the medical help he apparently needed.
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All I can say is, thank goodness the people at the Church decided contacting police was the best course of action. Â Nehemiah had intended on going to WalMart and opening fire but listened to a trusted friend at the Church who redirected him allowing police the opportunity to make contact away from other people.
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http://www.abqjournal.com/main/2013/01/21/news/five-dead-teen-accused-in-killing-spree.html
Guidance of some sort was missing. It doesn't have to be spiritual. This kind of behavior is approaching "trend" status. I wonder how much farther it's going to go.
 @SVB7 It isn't necessarily guidance if it happens to be mental illness (not saying it was but it seems likely).  Lack of understanding a mental crisis and not knowing who to turn to or when makes it very challenging.
Gun or not this person chose to kill, Religious up bringing or not, this kid chose to kill, he is an individual, with his own mind made up. We all have a choice. Go against that which we are taught to hold sacred or go into the darker and more evil side.
"Go against that which we are taught to hold sacred or go into the darker and more evil side."
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Boy, did I pick the wrong day to renounce Catholicism.
 @str1ngb3nd3r Lol!
The Albuquerque Journal claims that the kid's father was a strict pastor who homeschooled him and forbade him from playing violent video games or using the internet except for limited times/purposes.
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 @Whobeke He knew wrong from right and chose to do wrong, just like Cain who had killed his brother Able. This was clearly premeditated, planned out, He wanted nothing to d with being a "Christian" He made his choice and he will pay for that choice for the rest of his life.
And so it is coming true father shall raise against son and son against his father as to such as to slay each-other.
it is a sad that this is happening. well it all points to lack of morals and loss of self worth and the loss of spiritual guidance..
 @lee986321 And this guy was a preacher.  He provided spiritual guidance to prisoners and fire fighters.  Go figure.
 @blotto Well evidently then the kid had larger issues and the father ignored all the warning signs. So the father is just as much to blame in all this as does his son. Christain or not we have a duty to get our kids help when the need it. and if they speak on things that are not of honer then we must correct them and if uncorrectable, then let the professionals handle it. Nothing wrong with God fearing people sending there kids to the shrink if they really need one.
And a girl age 5 threatens to shoot another girl and gets suspended...and get this...all Over a hellp Kitty toy bubble gun..But they are addressing the fact of the words "Shoot", "you with" a gun"
this took place in Pennsylvania.
The little Girl has been suspended from school for 2 days .
there is the story in part:
A 5-year-old Pennsylvania girl who told another girl she was going to shoot her with a pink Hello Kitty toy gun that blows soapy bubbles has been suspended from kindergarten.
Her family has hired an attorney to fight the punishment, which initially was 10 days for issuing a 'terroristic threat.' But her punishment was reduced to two days after her mother met with school officials and had the incident dropped to 'threatening to harm another student,' which apparently carries a lesser punishment.
So how is that for starting at a young age?
Where did Jr. get the gun?Â
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Same place most of the mass murderers get them - from home. And it isn't a coincidental pattern that many of these homes have multiple guns and assault rifles. These are the homes of gun nuts who are passing pathology and easy opportunity on to their mentally ill kids. WAKE UP AMERICA. OUR GUN CULTURE IS TO BLAME FOR THIS.
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These are not coincidences, they are a kind of copy cat event, and they are getting more and more frequent. I think it's time for the media to tone down the amount of attention they are giving these stories in hopes that they will stop sparking others to violence.
@ormom Blah, Blah, Blah. You need a new mantra; this one is getting old!
 @ormom  @JohnQ.Public Show me the stats on that one please.
 @JohnQ.Public  @lee986321  @TreeWizard  @ormom More than likely the guns were his father's.  As I posted in the original story, they lived in a fairly rural area of Albuquerque (at least it was until subdivisions crept in) so guns wouldn't have been uncommon.
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I don't know if his dad had any criminal record to keep him from owning guns (he was a self-reported reformed gang member who had served in Desert Storm) or not. Â In addition to the strong possibility his father owned the guns, his dad was known to work with troubled youths and ex-cons. Â He had even allowed some of them to live on his property.
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The kid could have turned to one of these people to help him gain access to a weapon. Â This is probably part of the reason they haven't said it was his father's gun or who the gun(s) belonged to.
 @JohnQ.Public  @lee986321  @ormom I think that was addressed at ormom.
 @lee986321  @TreeWizard  @ormom Huh? I am just curious where the gun came from, there weren't any accusations or assumptions in my post whatsoever.
 @blotto  @TreeWizard  @ormom  @JohnQ.Public What you call me and say about me makes no difference. I am who I am by choice, I can be a great person, or I can be a very tactful and deliberate when time deserves it. . I for see this country headed down a dark path and I will hold nothing Back. People make the decisions to kill one another regardless if they use guns or a machetes Now I can not but help it if people close there eyes and shun the truth. The truth is that we very well could be heading into civil war.
And that isn't the culture that makes me think that, it is what I hear and see every day news or not. People need to open there eyes, People just can't spew off some opinion and then state it as fact with out evidence.
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Maybe I inherited this from my great, great, great, Grandfather Robert E Lee, You know He did make one mistake and that was to trust the government to be fair. He was stripped of everything. His home was taken by him from force and turned in to that tomb area.
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I also have over 600 years of Scottish blood in my veins as well as 200 years of Spanish blood. Both sides my ancestors have seen plenty and heard plenty.
That is all irrelevant unless one studies there history.
It is time to take a stand .
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Just as time in the-past in the medieval times peoples homes were ransacked and burned in order to seize weapons. the same is now Boding for today. Be warned . when you give up your rights, you give up your freedoms.
 @lee986321  @TreeWizard  @ormom  @JohnQ.Public Wow, dude!  Even if Oregon Mom is wrong, your response is out of control. Â
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My theory is that the kind of rage you are showing here contributes to our culture of violence. Â Once you dehumanize others, as you have done in your post, you open the door to violence. Â
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BTW, I am not calling you a violent person; I don't know you. Â But your rhetoric sets the stage for violent action. Â I wonder if you care.
 @TreeWizard  @ormom  @JohnQ.Public You are paranoid and delusional, it is not the gun culture to blame for this You misguided Parrot,
Look I grew up in the gun culture and what you speak is lie and deceipt, your just a little viper spewing venom on whom ever it will fall on..I feel bad for you as your ignorance has you sounding like a noisy gong out of place.
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You are speaking nothing more then an opinion, not from any facts.
Now either back up your facts or take your mindless drivel and spew your toxic venom elsewhere.
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And did he have previous conversations about these issues with others before this incident?
 @RalphCramden  @JohnQ.Public He could have obtained the gun from any one and anywhere a serial number will track it to the original owner. or he could have got it off the "Black Market" or from a gang member. Or he could have found the weapon on the road side, rare , very rare, but it can happen..Just like those rounds that were found on the highway.
 @RalphCramden  @JohnQ.Public if he had homicidal idealization, then yes he spoke of it.
Without meaning to sound harsh, it is regrettable that he did not act on the suicidal impulses before he acted on the homicidal ones.
@felines99 Sorry, but I don't think that is harsh at all. Killing your little brother for no reason; now THAT is harsh!
@felines99 I agree. You can die if you want to, but don't make it my problem or my fault.
 @tcm  @felines99 If one commits suicide to me that is a foolish and selfish thing to do.
 @lee986321  @tcm I don't think it is necessarily a selfish thing to do. I really don't believe that we can determine that is since we cannot feel that person's pain.
Yeah, but we're discussing the lesser of two evils...c'mon lee, keep up.
 @felines99 I agree with you. If you want to die, than die. Don't drag others into it with you.
That is just sad.