SKorea says NKorea has fired its long-range rocket

SEOUL, South Korea (AP) - North Korea fired a long-range rocket Wednesday morning in its second launch under its new leader, defying warnings from the U.N. and Washington only days before South Korean presidential elections.
South Korean Defense Ministry spokesman Kim Min-seok told a nationally televised news conference that a South Korean Aegis-equipped destroyer deployed in the Yellow Sea detected the launch but South Korea still didn't know the launch was successful. North Korea had indicated technical problems with the rocket and recently extended its launch window to Dec. 29.
Japan said one part of the rocket landed west of the Korean Peninsula and another part was expected to have landed east of the Philippines. South Korean President Lee Myung-bak planned an emergency national security council meeting Wednesday, and Japan protested the rocket launch.
North Korean leader Kim Jong Un took power after his father Kim Jong Il died on Dec. 17 last year, and the launch also comes about a month before President Barack Obama is inaugurated for his second term.
The North says the Unha rocket is meant to put a satellite in orbit. A similar launch in April broke apart shortly after liftoff, and the condemnation that attempt received is likely to be repeated. Washington sees the launch as a cover for a test of technology for missiles that could be used to strike the United States.
Rocket tests are seen as crucial to advancing North Korea's nuclear weapons ambitions. North Korea is thought to have only a handful of rudimentary nuclear bombs. But Pyongyang is not yet believed capable of building warheads small enough to mount on a missile that could threaten the United States.
North Korea has spent decades trying to perfect a multistage, long-range rocket. Experts say that ballistic missiles and rockets in satellite launches share similar bodies, engines and other technology. This is the fifth attempt at a long-range launch since 1998, when Pyongyang sent a rocket hurtling over Japan. Previous launches of three-stage rockets weren't considered successful.
Washington sees North Korea's pursuit of nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles as a threat to world security and to its Asian allies, Japan and South Korea.
North Korea under new leader Kim has pledged to bolster its nuclear arsenal unless Washington scraps what Pyongyang calls a hostile policy.
The launches Wednesday and in April came from a site on the west coast, in the village of Tongchang-ri, about 35 miles (56 kilometers) from the Chinese border city of Dandong, across the Yalu River from North Korea. The site is 45 miles (70 kilometers) from the North's main Yongbyon nuclear complex, and is said to have better roads and facilities than previous sites and to allow a southerly flight path meant to keep the rocket from flying over other countries.
Tensions are high between the rival Koreas. The Korean Peninsula remains technically at war, as the 1950-53 conflict ended in a truce, and Washington stations nearly 30,000 troops in South Korea as a buttress against any North Korean aggression. Tens of thousands more are in nearby Japan.
This year is the centennial of the birth of national founder Kim Il Sung, the grandfather of Kim Jong Un. According to North Korean propaganda, 2012 is meant to put the North on a path toward a "strong, prosperous and great nation."
The launch also follows South Korea's recent cancellation, because of technical problems, of an attempt to launch its first satellite from its own territory. Two previous attempts in 2009 and 2010 failed.
International condemnation is likely to follow quickly.
The U.N. Security Council has imposed two rounds of sanctions on North Korea following its nuclear tests, and a 2009 resolution orders the North not to conduct any launch using ballistic missile technology.
The council condemned a failed North Korean launch in April and ordered seizure of assets of three North Korean state companies linked to financing, exporting and procuring weapons and missile technology.
Under Security Council resolutions, nations are also barred from buying or selling weapons with North Korea, a key source of revenue for its authoritarian government.
North Korea has capable short- and medium-range missiles, but long-range launches in 1998, 2006, 2009 and in April of this year ended in failure. North Korea is believed to have enough weaponized plutonium for at least half a dozen bombs, according to U.S. experts. In 2010 it revealed a uranium enrichment program that could provide a second source of material for nuclear weapons.
Six-nation negotiations on dismantling North Korea's nuclear program in exchange for aid fell apart in early 2009.
A February deal for the United States to provide 240,000 metric tons of food aid in exchange for a freeze in nuclear and missile activities collapsed after the North's April launch.
North Korea said it chose a safe flight path so debris won't endanger neighboring countries. But there are still concerns over falling debris, and Japan's defense minister issued an order to missile units to prepare to intercept the rocket if it or its fragments threaten to hit Japan. Government spokesman Osamu Fujimura said Wednesday that no debris hit Japanese territory.
The first stage of the rocket was expected to fall in the Yellow Sea and the second stage in waters east of the Philippines, according to South Korea. Fujimura described two confirmed debris sites in those general areas after the launch.
South Korean Defense Ministry spokesman Kim Min-seok told a nationally televised news conference that a South Korean Aegis-equipped destroyer deployed in the Yellow Sea detected the launch but South Korea still didn't know the launch was successful. North Korea had indicated technical problems with the rocket and recently extended its launch window to Dec. 29.
Japan said one part of the rocket landed west of the Korean Peninsula and another part was expected to have landed east of the Philippines. South Korean President Lee Myung-bak planned an emergency national security council meeting Wednesday, and Japan protested the rocket launch.
North Korean leader Kim Jong Un took power after his father Kim Jong Il died on Dec. 17 last year, and the launch also comes about a month before President Barack Obama is inaugurated for his second term.
The North says the Unha rocket is meant to put a satellite in orbit. A similar launch in April broke apart shortly after liftoff, and the condemnation that attempt received is likely to be repeated. Washington sees the launch as a cover for a test of technology for missiles that could be used to strike the United States.
Rocket tests are seen as crucial to advancing North Korea's nuclear weapons ambitions. North Korea is thought to have only a handful of rudimentary nuclear bombs. But Pyongyang is not yet believed capable of building warheads small enough to mount on a missile that could threaten the United States.
North Korea has spent decades trying to perfect a multistage, long-range rocket. Experts say that ballistic missiles and rockets in satellite launches share similar bodies, engines and other technology. This is the fifth attempt at a long-range launch since 1998, when Pyongyang sent a rocket hurtling over Japan. Previous launches of three-stage rockets weren't considered successful.
Washington sees North Korea's pursuit of nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles as a threat to world security and to its Asian allies, Japan and South Korea.
North Korea under new leader Kim has pledged to bolster its nuclear arsenal unless Washington scraps what Pyongyang calls a hostile policy.
The launches Wednesday and in April came from a site on the west coast, in the village of Tongchang-ri, about 35 miles (56 kilometers) from the Chinese border city of Dandong, across the Yalu River from North Korea. The site is 45 miles (70 kilometers) from the North's main Yongbyon nuclear complex, and is said to have better roads and facilities than previous sites and to allow a southerly flight path meant to keep the rocket from flying over other countries.
Tensions are high between the rival Koreas. The Korean Peninsula remains technically at war, as the 1950-53 conflict ended in a truce, and Washington stations nearly 30,000 troops in South Korea as a buttress against any North Korean aggression. Tens of thousands more are in nearby Japan.
This year is the centennial of the birth of national founder Kim Il Sung, the grandfather of Kim Jong Un. According to North Korean propaganda, 2012 is meant to put the North on a path toward a "strong, prosperous and great nation."
The launch also follows South Korea's recent cancellation, because of technical problems, of an attempt to launch its first satellite from its own territory. Two previous attempts in 2009 and 2010 failed.
International condemnation is likely to follow quickly.
The U.N. Security Council has imposed two rounds of sanctions on North Korea following its nuclear tests, and a 2009 resolution orders the North not to conduct any launch using ballistic missile technology.
The council condemned a failed North Korean launch in April and ordered seizure of assets of three North Korean state companies linked to financing, exporting and procuring weapons and missile technology.
Under Security Council resolutions, nations are also barred from buying or selling weapons with North Korea, a key source of revenue for its authoritarian government.
North Korea has capable short- and medium-range missiles, but long-range launches in 1998, 2006, 2009 and in April of this year ended in failure. North Korea is believed to have enough weaponized plutonium for at least half a dozen bombs, according to U.S. experts. In 2010 it revealed a uranium enrichment program that could provide a second source of material for nuclear weapons.
Six-nation negotiations on dismantling North Korea's nuclear program in exchange for aid fell apart in early 2009.
A February deal for the United States to provide 240,000 metric tons of food aid in exchange for a freeze in nuclear and missile activities collapsed after the North's April launch.
North Korea said it chose a safe flight path so debris won't endanger neighboring countries. But there are still concerns over falling debris, and Japan's defense minister issued an order to missile units to prepare to intercept the rocket if it or its fragments threaten to hit Japan. Government spokesman Osamu Fujimura said Wednesday that no debris hit Japanese territory.
The first stage of the rocket was expected to fall in the Yellow Sea and the second stage in waters east of the Philippines, according to South Korea. Fujimura described two confirmed debris sites in those general areas after the launch.
NORAD says that N Korea put something in orbit. Same tech as an ICBM.
By 2050 (maybe) N.Korea will be able to successfully launch a weather balloon. Their only chance of making an ICBM launch a reality will be to buy one from China or Russia.
Update says that North Korea got it up.
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Of course we all know that the USSR and the USA first put men in orbit using ICBM's.
This darn rocket should have gone all around the world and landed back in North Korea!
Kim Jong Un's wife has a very pretty smile, but he really needs to buy suits that fit him... the ones he wears look like he got them off-the-rack at Goodwill... Â
 @margay1 ...I'm sure she loves him dearly. Much in the same way that Hugh Heffners bevy of wives love him.Â
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When you live in abject poverty under the authoritarian rule of a theocracy...... I'd marry him too if it meant that I could eat and live in a nice house.
@margay1 I think she is hot! Very classy looking. But he sure looks like a dork with that haircut!
 @margay1 His suit offers expansion room should he eat any 'American' food, ie. McD's.
So,, they had a sucessful launch. Were did it go?
 @lee986321 It says in the article. Twice.
Yaaaawwwwwnnnn. I'm sure that when the time is right, China will simply nullify the entire "leadership" of North Korea and assimilate them.
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Right now, NK simply provides too much entertainment value.
Strange that no one yet has said it went up, fell down, or went boom.
The really sad part is that you know damn well that the N Korean media is telling the citizens that there is now a satellite in orbit.... and, with state controlled media, the majority of citizens probably believe it.Â
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I'm surprised that the US doesn't put a FM/UHF broadcast vessel off the coast and beam 24/7 of truth (or, as N Korea would call it 'propoganda') for anyone with an antenna to watch and listen to.Â
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So sad to see these paper dragons still standing after all these years.Â
 @MarkKpic They're probably showing their people old Neil Armstrong footage with the American flag edited out and announcing to their people that they landed on the moon.
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Apparently Boeing has a microwave weapon that can fry all their electronics without killing anybody, but, you can't EMP an abacus.
 @MarkKpic "he really sad part is that you know damn well that the N Korean media is telling the citizens that there is now a satellite in orbit.... and, with state controlled media, the majority of citizens probably believe it. "
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Kind of like how the US media told us Saddam Hussein had WMD's, and with state controlled media, the majority of citizens believed it.....or like they are doing now with Iran.
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Also am I the only one that see the hypocrisy with the US crying UN, UN, UN when it comes to North Korea, Iran and in the past Iraq but when the UN votes to recognize the state of Palestine (last month) and what do the US and Israel do.....ignore the vote, then the US immediately cuts funding to Palestine and Israel announces the building or more settlements in the West Bank as punishment for the world voting against their wishes!  Kind of reminds me of the little pouty little kid who takes his ball and goes home when he doesn't get his way.....
 @B Smizzle >'Kind of like how the US media...'
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The major difference is that, in the US, people eventually figured out that GW's assertations were a load of merde. (of course, by that time it was too late to do anything about it). My point is that in N Korea, with the theocracy in control of the media, they could probably convince the majority of people that aliens had taken over central america.Â
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>'Also am I the only one that see the hypocrisy ...'
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Tomatoes/rhubarb. Don't forget to include references to 'zionist policies' to really make it a noble rant.Â
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The whole of the situation in the Middle East is nothing more than the continuation of history. The entire quagmire began decades ago, and has continued under theological extremists throughout known history. If current events are any indication, it's unlikely to change any time soon. The argument could be made that western cultures are as complicit in the problem by their funding of the regeimes through the purchase of oil.
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My observations about N Korea were more about a relic of the 'cold war' still having any sort of power over it's people. The only reason that Kim Jong Un and his party are still in power is because of material and financial support from countries like China, Iran and former Soviet Union. Without their support, his house of cards would have imploded a decade ago under it's own weight.Â
 @MarkKpic "The really sad part is that you know damn well that the N Korean media is telling the citizens that there is now a satellite in orbit.... and, with state controlled media, the majority of citizens probably believe it."
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http://www.newsday.com/news/world/north-korea-launches-rocket-carrying-its-first-satellite-u-s-u-n-condemn-1.4326297
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"North Korea, though struggling to feed its people, is now one of the few countries to have successfully launched a working satellite into space from its own soil; bitter rival South Korea is not on the list, though it has tried."
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http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/12/15866530-north-korean-satellite-tumbling-out-of-control-us-officials-say
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 @MarkKpic "The major difference is that, in the US, people eventually figured out that GW's assertations were a load of merde"
No the US people have not figured it out....they are falling for the same lies again this time with Iran and Syria.
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"Tomatoes/rhubarb. Don't forget to include references to 'zionist policies' to really make it a noble rant. "
Ah yes, don't forget to try and frame me as an anti-semite for asking a logical question that you avoided answering.  Please answer the question unless your personal attack is the answer, meaning yes you see the blatant hypocrisy but just can't bring yourself to say yes!  It's okay....we know!
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That's ok North Korea, I bet Kim Jong Un has trouble launching his rocket too.
@JTesla Ok, just to be fair, his wife is hot enough to make a dead man, well, you know what Mick Jagger said.
@JTesla .....but he is the sexiest man in the world (The Onion article)
 @JTesla  ...snicker...
It must not have been successful given that the US and most of the world have been spying and watching all this time.Â