Senate gun bill will include expanded background checks

WASHINGTON (AP) - Democrats are taking an aggressive stance in their drive to curb firearms, announcing that the gun control legislation the Senate debates next month will include expanded federal background checks for gun purchasers.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Thursday that the measure will include tougher laws and stiffer sentences for gun trafficking and increased school safety grants.
Closing background check loopholes will be the core of the legislation, just as it was the cornerstone of President Barack Obama's proposals for stemming gun violence following the December slayings of 20 first-graders and six staffers at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn.
Including expanded checks in the gun legislation signals that Democrats feel they can win bipartisan support for the measure or are happy to dare Republicans to reject the entire gun-control package and face political consequences in next year's elections.
Reid, D-Nev., said he hoped a trio of senators would craft a bipartisan background check compromise. If not, he said, senators would consider a stricter version that allows fewer exemptions approved by the Senate Judiciary Committee on a party-line vote.
"This moves the ball forward on gun safety in the Senate," said Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., one of the senators hunting a background check deal.
Schumer said he hoped an accord could be ready when the Senate returns from its upcoming two-week spring break. Moderate Sens. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., who has an A-rating from the National Rifle Association, and Mark Kirk, R-Ill., are also involved.
The background check system is aimed at preventing criminals and others from acquiring firearms. It currently applies only to sales by federally licensed gun dealers, not private transactions at gun shows or online.
The fate of the overall legislation remains uncertain, with Democrats all but sure to need Republican support for it to survive. Action would then shift to the GOP-run House, where leaders have shown no taste for expanding background checks for private purchases.
Earlier, Reid decided to exclude a proposed assault weapons ban from the bill, fearing it would sink the legislation, but will allow a vote on the plan as an amendment. The ban's sponsor, Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., seems sure to lose due to opposition from Republicans and moderate Democrats.
An Associated Press-GfK poll showed more than 8 in 10 people support broadening the background check requirement to gun shows. Other surveys show similar overwhelming support.
Critics appeared unbowed. The NRA and others say criminals ignore background checks in getting guns illegally, and warn the expansion would lead to a federal registry of gun owners.
"We remain as committed as we have been to opposing gun bans," said Andrew Arulanandam, an NRA spokesman. He declined to comment on a potential compromise but said if the Senate considers Schumer's version of background checks, "we will do whatever we can to defeat it."
The NRA wants Congress to fund more armed guards at schools, step up prosecutions of people who file false gun applications and increase the background check system's access to state records of people with mental and other problems.
Sen. Charles Grassley of Iowa, top Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, said of Reid's announcement, "I don't know how the leader expects members to vote on an ever-changing piece of legislation that has yet to gain bipartisan support."
In a hint of possible movement, one option that Schumer, Manchin and Kirk are considering would require background checks and record-keeping for private sales at gun shows and commercial sales online. It would exclude in-person, noncommercial transactions between people who know each other. The idea was described by two lobbyists and Senate aide who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss private talks.
Other exclusions could include gun transactions between relatives and acquisitions by people with state-issued concealed carry permits, and there would be an online background check system for people in remote areas. Veterans officially determined to have some psychological problems would be given a way to appeal that decision, which would otherwise bar them from getting firearms.
Schumer has insisted on record-keeping for all private gun sales, saying the files are needed to keep the system effective. That led to stalemated talks with conservative leader Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., who says the data would lead to federal records on gun owners.
If not included in the overall gun bill, an expansion of background checks could have been offered as an amendment. It likely would have needed support from 60 of the 100 senators to prevail - a difficult hurdle for Democrats.
"In order to be effective, any bill that passes the Senate must include background checks," Reid said in a written statement.
Gun control backers lauded the decision. Dan Gross, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, called it "a tremendous step and we recognize there is still a tough road ahead." He said his group would activate supporters to contact lawmakers.
"The majority leader's been a pretty steady guide throughout, and this a good example," said Mark Glaze, director of Mayors Against Illegal Guns, a group New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg helps lead.
Reid said that besides the assault weapons ban, he will allow votes on amendments including those related to high-capacity ammunition magazines and mental health. Many states poorly report mental health records to the federal background check system.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Thursday that the measure will include tougher laws and stiffer sentences for gun trafficking and increased school safety grants.
Closing background check loopholes will be the core of the legislation, just as it was the cornerstone of President Barack Obama's proposals for stemming gun violence following the December slayings of 20 first-graders and six staffers at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn.
Including expanded checks in the gun legislation signals that Democrats feel they can win bipartisan support for the measure or are happy to dare Republicans to reject the entire gun-control package and face political consequences in next year's elections.
Reid, D-Nev., said he hoped a trio of senators would craft a bipartisan background check compromise. If not, he said, senators would consider a stricter version that allows fewer exemptions approved by the Senate Judiciary Committee on a party-line vote.
"This moves the ball forward on gun safety in the Senate," said Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., one of the senators hunting a background check deal.
Schumer said he hoped an accord could be ready when the Senate returns from its upcoming two-week spring break. Moderate Sens. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., who has an A-rating from the National Rifle Association, and Mark Kirk, R-Ill., are also involved.
The background check system is aimed at preventing criminals and others from acquiring firearms. It currently applies only to sales by federally licensed gun dealers, not private transactions at gun shows or online.
The fate of the overall legislation remains uncertain, with Democrats all but sure to need Republican support for it to survive. Action would then shift to the GOP-run House, where leaders have shown no taste for expanding background checks for private purchases.
Earlier, Reid decided to exclude a proposed assault weapons ban from the bill, fearing it would sink the legislation, but will allow a vote on the plan as an amendment. The ban's sponsor, Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., seems sure to lose due to opposition from Republicans and moderate Democrats.
An Associated Press-GfK poll showed more than 8 in 10 people support broadening the background check requirement to gun shows. Other surveys show similar overwhelming support.
Critics appeared unbowed. The NRA and others say criminals ignore background checks in getting guns illegally, and warn the expansion would lead to a federal registry of gun owners.
"We remain as committed as we have been to opposing gun bans," said Andrew Arulanandam, an NRA spokesman. He declined to comment on a potential compromise but said if the Senate considers Schumer's version of background checks, "we will do whatever we can to defeat it."
The NRA wants Congress to fund more armed guards at schools, step up prosecutions of people who file false gun applications and increase the background check system's access to state records of people with mental and other problems.
Sen. Charles Grassley of Iowa, top Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, said of Reid's announcement, "I don't know how the leader expects members to vote on an ever-changing piece of legislation that has yet to gain bipartisan support."
In a hint of possible movement, one option that Schumer, Manchin and Kirk are considering would require background checks and record-keeping for private sales at gun shows and commercial sales online. It would exclude in-person, noncommercial transactions between people who know each other. The idea was described by two lobbyists and Senate aide who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss private talks.
Other exclusions could include gun transactions between relatives and acquisitions by people with state-issued concealed carry permits, and there would be an online background check system for people in remote areas. Veterans officially determined to have some psychological problems would be given a way to appeal that decision, which would otherwise bar them from getting firearms.
Schumer has insisted on record-keeping for all private gun sales, saying the files are needed to keep the system effective. That led to stalemated talks with conservative leader Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., who says the data would lead to federal records on gun owners.
If not included in the overall gun bill, an expansion of background checks could have been offered as an amendment. It likely would have needed support from 60 of the 100 senators to prevail - a difficult hurdle for Democrats.
"In order to be effective, any bill that passes the Senate must include background checks," Reid said in a written statement.
Gun control backers lauded the decision. Dan Gross, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, called it "a tremendous step and we recognize there is still a tough road ahead." He said his group would activate supporters to contact lawmakers.
"The majority leader's been a pretty steady guide throughout, and this a good example," said Mark Glaze, director of Mayors Against Illegal Guns, a group New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg helps lead.
Reid said that besides the assault weapons ban, he will allow votes on amendments including those related to high-capacity ammunition magazines and mental health. Many states poorly report mental health records to the federal background check system.
One requirement should be to explain how their "new law" would have prevented sales the existing laws failed to stop, and indicate the relevant incident.
Almost forgot this was just more feel-good legislation that piles another law on the estimated 200,000 federal laws not even the Justice Department can get a grip on.
Remember that Harry Reid, Obama, Feinstein, et al will always be armed pr have armed gaurds but do not ccare if you do or not. Â They have free health care and refuse the Obamacare themselves they have prescribed for you. Â They will always fly or drive or be flown or driven, they will not ever have to take the bus or train but will pose for photo ops for an image. Â They live in gated gaurded mansions not a high crime ghetto orapt.complex. Â I am.amazed they have hypnotized themasses as they have.
'Including expanded checks in the gun legislation signals that Democrats feel they can win bipartisan support for the measure or are happy to dare Republicans to reject the entire gun-control package and face political consequences in next year's elections.'
Aaaaand, there you have it.Â
The vast majority of this whole smoke and mirrors show has less to do with Sandy Hook and the protection of 'our childruuuun' than it does with reelection fodder come mid-terms.Â
About damn time that someone in the AP writers pool had the cajones to actually author the truth about it.Â
Do expande background checks make sense? Absolutely. If I want to purchase a gun at a retailer, or a gun show, I should undergo a background check. I've got nothing to hide. What do you have to hide?
Its not about hiding, people who are not felons should not need permission to own a legal product which millions do already.  The people are no s citizens than the police and should be able  openly carry also.  But you Want people to hide them because you are intolerant  or offended by the sight of freedom, so people carry concealed.  You recognize and are proud of military jets overflying the game yet should feel safer also with good armed citizens protecting our freedom liberty and life and limb as well.  But  you have been brainwashed and psychologically and  politically manipulated by the agenda of the enemies of Individual liberty and the news seldom reports the positive lives saved, rapes prevented, but sensationalized and politicizes any tragedy in the agenda of disarmament.  The s no longer fear elections so now y wish to remove their second fear, your second amendment birthright.
@pdxdPlenty to hide from my wife....
That's why Nixon invented the cover-up.
I'm all for more background checks! Let's start with the politicians! Let's publicize the results! Let's demand that any discrepancies be dealt with by banning the corrupt politicians from politics for life!
When the politicians except background checks for themselves I will except background checks for potential firearm buyers, as long as there are no requests for any firearm information included.
@Freedom1267Â Not many convicted felons currently in congress. Â I think they'd pass.
@Fake Pilot@Freedom1267
They may not be convicted felons ( not to say that they couldn't be), but they may well be mentally defective. Anybody that believes that making more laws will stop anybody from breaking the law has got to have serious mental problems.
Never forget that liberalism is a mental defect!
This is like saying we should make it harder for people to buy cars, because a few people were killed by drunk drivers.
@Conspirator Actually it's like saying we should check to see if someone has been convicted of a DUI before selling them a car.  That seems like a closer comparison to me.
Lets see no background check for illegal aliens but  tuition medical and welfare.  No or ignored background check on Obama.  But disarm good legal citizens.  by gathering data for disarmament or arbitrary removal of rights to self  defense. Â
@Ramona Where does it say disarming? don't see anything like that...
@deejm2112 @Ramona I was not talking to blind people,so dont worry.
@Ramona Are you a birther? Â
@Sundowner @Ramona Yes I was born why were you hatched?
@Sundowner @Ramona @deejm2112 Your welcome.
@Ramona @deejm2112  Well that's certainly a good solid answer.  Thanks anyway.
Just say no. Â Once our government was British. Â We said NO once. Â Things got better but the redcoats and torries are back. Take a look at the UK. Â A royal class and the disarmed yellow toothed serf class.
@Ramona It's bad to have one of the lowest gun death rates in the world...got it.
@deejm2112 @Ramona Yet here you are shaking with fear wishing you could be in the UK or force their confiscation on your neighbors.  You are the same mindless cyborgs that love UK healthcare too, I am shocked...
The gun crazies are out in force this morning, I see. Brace yourselves. The background checks are coming. And if you had any sense at all, you would realize that this is a MAJOR effing tool to keep the guns out of the hands of criminals. Of courxe, putting "sense" and "gun rights" in the same paragraph creates an immediate oxymoron. Accent on MORON.
@Mechanic Actually, background checks are here and they're not going to change at all. There will be absolutely no gun control legislation coming out of Congress, guaranteed.
Also, Democrats will get shellacked in the mid-terms because of this singular issue.
@MechanicÂ
You are deceived or live in an alternate reality if you think that background checks keep the guns out of the hands of criminals. Oregon has had background checks at gun shows for a long time and murder rates in Portland are going up.
Chicago specifically and Illinois in general have very strict gun laws and yet they have almost 2 murders a day in Chicago. Outside Chicago there are very few murders. Almost all the murders are black on black and gang related.
You make your statement but it has no basis in either logic or fact.
As for background checks coming, they have already been here for decades. What background checks are you talking about? Or don't you know the laws of the land, which is more than likely the case.
This law will never pass the House. To many gun supporters there and that includes the Democrats who represent area with high gun ownership.
@RalphCramden @Mechanic Pretty sure he is talking about "universal background checks", ie. all gun transfers require a background check.  Sounds good to me.
@Fake Pilot @RalphCramden @Mechanic One mans "good idea" is anothers Police State I guess..
@RalphCramden The murders committed in Chicago, are used by those who obtained the firearms outside of Chicago.
@pdxdÂ
Which is why I mentioned Illinois which has very tough gun laws. Wisconsin and Indiana have resident laws and background checks which is required of all FFL dealers.
The Chicago police stats say that almost every gun used in a murder was stolen.
@Mechanic Alas, if only we could just have a law that made criminals obey the law. Otherwise, the ONLY people it affects are the law-abiding.
@Mechanic Did you not notice the use of the word "others" in the eighth paragraph? Let me copy and past the first sentence for you: "The background check system is aimed at preventing criminals and others from acquiring firearms." Who are these "others", Mechanic? The word "others" needs to be clearly defined or dropped altogether or law-abiding citizens will lose their Second Amendment rights.
@theprodigal @Mechanic The crazies.
@Mechanic You I assume have not  the  check mechanic and if you have or own guns anyway that is the best demonstration yet of our own need to be armed, thank you.
yeah because more laws and regulations mean a whole lot to a CRIMINAL
I'd like to see criminal background checks on the members of congress.
@PeterAWolf And, don't forget about the ones currently facing charges or the ones already convicted and spending time in jail!
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/feb/20/jesse-jackson-jr-tells-court-i-am-guilty/
"I am guilty, your honor."
"The background check system is aimed at preventing criminals and others from acquiring firearms." Who are these others? Politcal dissidents (people who don't agree with the government's policies)? I'm all for felons being prevented from getting their hands on firearms, but the use of the word "others" in the article makes it sound like the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens are being infringed.
@theprodigal The crazies.
@theprodigal Exactly.  You solve 99% of the problem by looking CLOSELY at people that have already been known to violate the related law ... not at the large majority of people that have never and will never be a problem.