With early voting under way, pressure is on for next debate

WILLIAMSBURG, Va. (AP) - With the White House race barreling toward the finish, President Barack Obama and Republican challenger Mitt Romney were staying out of the spotlight Monday, underscoring the intense focus each campaign is placing on the second presidential debate.
Obama's campaign, seeking to rebound from a dismal first debate, promised a more energetic president would take the stage Tuesday at Hofstra University in Hempstead, N.Y. Romney's team aimed to build on a commanding opening debate that gave the Republican new life in a White House race that had once appeared to be slipping away from him.
When the two candidates step back into the public eye at the debate, there will be exactly three weeks left until Election Day. But early voting is already underway in dozens of states, including some battlegrounds, giving the candidates little time to recover from any slipups.
Much of the pressure in the coming debate will be on Obama, who aides acknowledge showed up at the first face-off with less practice - and far less energy - than they had wanted. The president and a team of advisers are seeking to regain focus with an intense, three-day "debate camp" at a golf resort in Williamsburg, Va.
"It is going great," Obama said of his preparations Sunday, while taking a brief break to greet volunteers at a nearby campaign office.
Romney, who has made no secret of the huge priority his campaign puts on the debates, was practicing Monday near his home in Massachusetts.
Romney's advisers suggested the Republican nominee would continue to moderate his message - in tone, if not substance - as he did in the Oct. 3 meeting to help broaden his appeal to the narrow slice of undecided voters. In recent days, Romney has promised his tax plan would not benefit the wealthy, emphasized his work with Democrats as Massachusetts governor and downplayed plans to curtail women's abortion rights.
Democrats were dismayed that Obama didn't more aggressively call out Romney's move to the center during the first debate. Since then, the president has been more forceful in doing so on the campaign trail and in television ads.
During debate preparations, aides are working on tailoring that message to a debate format. And they're working on balancing aggressive tactics with the debate's town-hall format, which often requires candidates to show a connection with questioners from the audience.
Romney aides suggested the former Massachusetts governor would be prepared regardless of Obama's adjustments.
"The president can change his style," Romney adviser Ed Gillespie said on "Fox News Sunday." ''He can change his tactics. He can't change his record."
The Obama campaign released a new TV ad on Monday featuring factory workers lauding the president's record on job creation.
"We have a whole second shift that we brought in, new employees, and we have a future at our plant now," says a woman in the ad titled "Main Street." It will air in Colorado, Iowa, Nevada and Virginia, all key battleground states.
Obama's campaign, seeking to rebound from a dismal first debate, promised a more energetic president would take the stage Tuesday at Hofstra University in Hempstead, N.Y. Romney's team aimed to build on a commanding opening debate that gave the Republican new life in a White House race that had once appeared to be slipping away from him.
When the two candidates step back into the public eye at the debate, there will be exactly three weeks left until Election Day. But early voting is already underway in dozens of states, including some battlegrounds, giving the candidates little time to recover from any slipups.
Much of the pressure in the coming debate will be on Obama, who aides acknowledge showed up at the first face-off with less practice - and far less energy - than they had wanted. The president and a team of advisers are seeking to regain focus with an intense, three-day "debate camp" at a golf resort in Williamsburg, Va.
"It is going great," Obama said of his preparations Sunday, while taking a brief break to greet volunteers at a nearby campaign office.
Romney, who has made no secret of the huge priority his campaign puts on the debates, was practicing Monday near his home in Massachusetts.
Romney's advisers suggested the Republican nominee would continue to moderate his message - in tone, if not substance - as he did in the Oct. 3 meeting to help broaden his appeal to the narrow slice of undecided voters. In recent days, Romney has promised his tax plan would not benefit the wealthy, emphasized his work with Democrats as Massachusetts governor and downplayed plans to curtail women's abortion rights.
Democrats were dismayed that Obama didn't more aggressively call out Romney's move to the center during the first debate. Since then, the president has been more forceful in doing so on the campaign trail and in television ads.
During debate preparations, aides are working on tailoring that message to a debate format. And they're working on balancing aggressive tactics with the debate's town-hall format, which often requires candidates to show a connection with questioners from the audience.
Romney aides suggested the former Massachusetts governor would be prepared regardless of Obama's adjustments.
"The president can change his style," Romney adviser Ed Gillespie said on "Fox News Sunday." ''He can change his tactics. He can't change his record."
The Obama campaign released a new TV ad on Monday featuring factory workers lauding the president's record on job creation.
"We have a whole second shift that we brought in, new employees, and we have a future at our plant now," says a woman in the ad titled "Main Street." It will air in Colorado, Iowa, Nevada and Virginia, all key battleground states.
The Salt Lake Tribune announced in an editorial published Friday its endorsement of President Barack Obama for the 2012 race, questioning the "pragmatic, inclusive" former Massachusetts governor's change into Republican nominee Mitt Romney.
"The president has earned a second term. Romney, in whatever guise, does not deserve a first," the Utah newspaper said in the editorial.
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'nough said !
These guys are goofballs, it just keeps coming ! And anybody who thinks they'd be good for the country is either crazy or dilusional !
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I dunno...... there are still fewer people working today than when B HO took office. median income has gone from 51k to 47k during the last four years.  I think anyone still supporting B HO is either crazy or delusional.
 @kramr So John McCain wins the election in 2008.  Does any of what you just posted change?  Why? Â
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I contend that no man on earth entering the White House in the winter of 2009 could have done substantially better. Â Why? Â Because we have never in my lifetime seen a recession the likes of which hit that fall. Â Here's the one graph summary showing the unemployment curves for every recession since 1948. Â
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Which two recessions look the most alike? Â 2001 and 2007, except 2001 was a firecracker compared to 2007's H-bomb. Â Look at the slope of the jobs recovery in both. Â It's nearly identical. Â So we've had the two most recent president's attempts to recover from an economic downturn, one Republican, one Democrat, with vastly different responses and largely identical results, even though comparing 2001 with 2007 isn't even fair given the order of magnitude difference in severity.
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Explain to me how John McCain would have done better.
This is what the rightwingnutz want in the oval office, a guy, RIGHT NOW, is shipping equipment from a viable biz in freeport , Illionois to CHINA....Shipping jobs to china !
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This is why I get angry at YOU people that aspouse to this crooks life style ! And anyone arguing that "he doesn't run bain any longer"...well..he still owns 51% of bain...why ? MAJORITY STOCKHOLDER ! He still owns bain !
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His statement in the last debate....
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"I have no idea what youâre talking about. I maybe need to get a new accountant," Romney shot back. "The idea that you get a break for shipping jobs overseas is simply not the case."
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Ya right
Here's a funny...some lady calling Obama a communist...and she has NO CLUE as to what a communist is.
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Unfortunately, too many other voters are just like her...clueless. To them it's just rhetoric and sound bites and whichever thing sounds good to them and their friends, they go with that. Idiocracy.
"My biggest surprise after taking office was how little power the president actually has." - George H. W. Bush
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Friends, the president does not run the country, and anyone thinking he does is grossly misinformed. What once was fact is now a facade.
 @wrench You 're correct. The Supreme Court can only be a weapon if you can stack it on your side. And Executive Orders are only as good as the political backing to make them work.
We've all seen it work...Congress decides not to do anything, and nothing gets done. Hence, no jobs. Banks still financially rape their customers. And on and on and on.
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The opposite of PROgress is CONgress.
 @wrench Yea Executive Orders are so insignificant that they aren't even worth mentioning.
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one acronym.....scotus, pretty powerful weapon, look at the damage gdbya has done with that !
So tweedly de and tweedly dum go into seclusion to see who can manufacture the best way to con a vote. I suppose if either could guarantee at least one tenth of one percent of what they promise would actually come to pass it might then be a worthwhile endeavor, but wouldn't hold my breath.
This is not surprising, considering he blocked the military vote. The real issue is can the real voters overcome the Obama corruption, the floating electrons, the dead voting, the cats and dogs voting, Bugs Bunny and Yosemite Sam voting and the union intimidation voting. If not, welcome to the "flexibility" of the USSA, the United Socialist States of America, tax indenturement and entitlement dependency. Be sure and get your Obamaphone.
OBAMA HAS HAD 4 YEARS AND HE HAS FAILED!
US Economy Failing...
Iran Going Nuclear...
Millions Out Of Work...
Gasoline Prices Soaring...
Muslims Murder Americans...
16 Trillion National Debit...
Muslims attack US Embassy's...
US Credit Rating Downgraded...
Terror Warnings For Americans In Egypt...
Syria Stockpiles Chemical and Biological Weapons...
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 @KHEB You're such a tool. You do realize that if the republicans get into power, that the TSA or something like it will probably be serving at the poling stations, too. No ID, no vote.Yep, nothing like a free America, is there? (wink, wink)
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And your fancy list there...a lot of that happened way back during Dear Dumbya's Reign of Error.
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So as usual, you're talking out of your exit chute again.
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Oh, and make sure you don't lose that ID of yours. You'll probably end up in Lower Slobbovia or somewhere similar.
 @Mikey ...talk about an idiot with his up Obama's whatever...you take the cake.  Hard to believe you are so dense and like it that way...
You forgot that it "rained today"...what a goof !
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Just gotta pick a few of your stupid rants...
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muslims murder americans...dude thats just wacko !
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us credit rating downgraded...ah, bonehead, that was you wonderful teabaggers that boner couldn't control in the house !
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terror warnings for americans in egypt....well then leave ...jeeeze...not rocket science here !
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iran going nuclear......ya right, and iraq still has wmd's hidden somewhere in the desert !
@sargerator ...and sadly you will cast your vote...looks like you and I will cancel each other out.... there is a modicum of comfort in that...
Obama and his party controlled Congress for the two years immediately preceding his first presidential term. He voted for the spending that occurred in 2007-2009. He voted for TARP. He favored the housing policies that led to the financial crisis and recession. I'm shocked you find us so stupid as to believe someone other than Obama himself was responsible for his lousy performance in the last 4 years... Â
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@KHEB "He voted for the spending that occurred in 2007-2009."
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And thats exactly what robdme and Ly'n say they are going back to, village idiot credit card debt
"Obama and his party controlled Congress for the two years immediately preceding his first presidential term."
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I guess I'll do a "bill" here, "it depends on what you mean "controlled congress" is" !!
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RepubliCONs couldn't filabuster for a total of 5 months of which included christmas break.
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Now I'm figuring you're not a lier but just confussed because you may watch fauxe nooze talking heads but thats FAR from 2 years control !
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Why don't we be more truthful about this whole situation instead of throwing out miss statements and lies as robdme and Ly'n have been doing
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@KHEB @sargerator - KHEB - The repeal of Glass/Steagall was a leading factor in the financial crisis. This movement by the Republicans started during the Reagan administration was pushed until Clinton finally signed off. This gave Wall Street a free hand to gamble. The taxpayers lost. Our elected reps aren't working in our best interests. If they were, there would be no need for 35,000 registered lobbyists working on behalf of special interests.Â
@KHEB - It's obvious you get all your info from the talking heads. A president is not a cause all/cure all as most assume. Our decline has been over four decades in the making, not because of one administration. Do some in-depth research for your own enlightenment.
 @wrench .. amazing how blind you are...every single one of the things I listed, and there is a myraid  of other failings, has happened under Obama...he has been the worst prez ever.  Even Carter didn't create a climate of anger and frustration this guy has....he has been in office just short of 4 years and has fixed nothing to the better...he owns it all now....Just what do you think this prez has done that has personally been of benefit to you - NOTHING.....
 @KHEB Not gloating.  Just providing a counter-narrative to the claim that the country has been flushed down the toilet by our current President, who, if you've read kramr's posts, gets absolutely no credit for the things he's done right and all the blame for the things he's done wrong, plus the things well out of his control.Â
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I remember eight years under Bush.  I did fine then, too.  The economy did almost fail, but that wasn't  directly G.W.'s fault any more than $4/gallon gasoline is Obama's today.  The world won't end if Romney gets elected either, especially since I don't have a vagina, but the country will move in a direction less to my liking.  Obama hasn't been the president I had hoped he would be either, but probably for reasons vastly different from yours.  Â
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Foaming at the mouth partisan rants are the sign of a feeble intellect, as far as I'm concerned, and should be treated accordingly. Â
 @kramr  @Festivus Ok, you get credit for keeping it reigned in for this last post.  But don't play coy.  We both know your post history here.
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show me the hate in the post where I resspond to Fest.
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Its just pathetic that those on the left have to play the hate or race card every time someone responds to their posts with facts and logic to with something they disagree with but have no logical response to other than to play the hate/race card
 @Festivus   good for you festivus but over 12.1% unemployment is not a good feeling for them....,.I'm sure they would rather be gloating just like you....
"WTF is up with that, how the hell does my response"
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As festivus said, "foaming at the mouth"
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You just don't get it !
@Festivus @KHEBÂ Â """""Â I don't have it in me to foam at the mouth and hate the man in the White House trying to help the average American, regardless of his political party."""""
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I respond to your post with some simple facts and you turn it into a hate fest...... WTF is up with that, how the hell does my response claiming that the majority of Americans have not done as well as you have in the last few years  turn into something full of hate?????  I ddin't even blame anyone!!!! I just stated how things are......
 @kramr  @Festivus  @KHEB Well, since you seem so enamored of the idea that everything that happens in the world is directly the result of the action of the POTUS, I sincerely hope Romney wins.  Then I can sit back and come up with theories on the sad state of the green tree frog and Bangladesh and how Joseph Smith is personally responsible.Â
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On second thought, forget it. Â I don't have it in me to foam at the mouth and hate the man in the White House trying to help the average American, regardless of his political party. Hell, G.W. got us into a 2 10 year wars and I didn't have the psychopathic hatred some of you have for Obama.
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Maybe, just maybe, your reality is little bit skewed.
 @last boyscout  @Festivus Trick question since I just switched jobs two weeks ago.  But the company I worked for over the last six years is strictly doing commercial work, no government contracts whatsoever.  That's not true of where I am now, but both seem to be doing reasonably well.
 @Festivus Don't give specific details, but since your business is doing better, I'm curious, does your business sell to or do work for any government or state agencies? Or do you sell/do business with strictly  the general public? Many businesses are down that only deal with the general public. My sister in law is doing great, she's a school teacher.
@Festivus @KHEB @wrench   """""My salary is up. Has been every year since Obama took office."""" Good for you, but the median icome has gone from 51k to 47k while B HO has been in office... epic fail B HO
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good for you, but the majority of people across the county as well as Oregon are still down significantly sin B HO took office.
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IMHO, thats really nothing to brag about.  BEFORE  BarryCare it was possible to keep kids on the parents plan thru college.
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Osama is dead based on a large part the intel. gained by waterboarding during the bush years.Â
 All the feds did with the GM bailout was save the UAW. GM would have gone thru bankruptcy on its own just fine just like so many of the major airlines have done numerous times.  BTW, GM bailout has still screwed the tax payers.  GM stock has to be north of $50/share to break even and it closed today at $24.48.
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Based on what?????? the warm feeling a fart gives you??? did you forget about 09/11/2012.....a little hint, its NOT about the movie, its about our leader bragging about killing Osama.
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You may be better of than you were four years ago...... but the MAJORITY OF AMERICANS ARE NOT!!!!!!
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 @KHEB  @wrench Well, since you asked...
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My salary is up. Â Has been every year since Obama took office.
My 401k has recovered the value it lost when the economy collapsed in late 2008
My home value has recovered most of the value it lost when the economy collapsed in late 2008
My children, both in their early twenties, are still on my health care
Osama bin Laden is dead, and GM is alive (to steal from Joe)
The rest of the world looks more favorably on the US than they did 4 years ago.
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Am I personally better off than I was 4 years ago? Â Yes. Â As for a climate of frustration, it takes two parties to Tango. Â You might want to have a look at the number of fillibusters used over the last 4 years to see who the President's dance partner has been on that one.
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Drinking game:Â With Obama's new "aggressive" tactic mistakes will be made, so every time he has a Freudian Slip ("everybodyâs getting a fair share") you have to take a drink.
 @TimBurr WIth a little luck, you'll get your BAC up to .2 or .3% and we'll get a couple of hangover days of reprieve. Â
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@Tanbor Fudgely - We live in a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy. Considering the main stream media is owned by six corporations, and our government is controlled by corporate America, it's no mystery why only candidates of choice get the exposure. The puppeteers don't care which one of their puppets gets elected.  Ron Paul would be the best choice for the majority of the populace since he wanted to follow the constitution and not be swayed by special interests.
So Romney is now going to moderate his message. He needs to. He can be totally truthful and tell everyone what he really wants to do. He might not get elected. Instead, he's hoping you buy his Hope & Change. Well for one, I'm not buying it. If you want to get elected, be more specific about what you propose to do in office and quit lying and shifting your position Mr. Etch-a-Sketch.
@peckishpete  """"Instead, he's hoping you buy his Hope & Change."""""  I am desperately "hoping" for "change" next month far more because of the misrable failure B HO has been vs anything Mittens has been saying..... Mittens could say he invented the internet and he's still get my vote.Â
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what do you call B HO's voting against raising the debt limit in 2006???
What do you call B HO's flip flopping on gay marriage......
What do you call B HO's outright lie of cutting the deficit in half....
what do you call B HO's outright lie of more transparancy.....
What do you call B HO's outright lie of having every bill online for 5 days before he signs it...
What do you call B HO's outright lie of NOT having any lobbyists in his admin.....
What do you call B HO's wopper of a lie that BarryCare was not a tax....
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@kramr You are right. Both sides lie and flip-flop. Given that, I'll vote for the party that is not going to force their religious doctrine on me or try to base new laws on Biblical passage. I'll vote for the party that is not going to deny a woman the right to do with her body what she wants and the party that doesn't believe that life begins at conception. I'll vote for the party that is not going to deny a segment of this country the same basic rights as other just because you don't like the way they behave. I'm going to vote the party who will not put two more ultra-conservative judges on the Supreme Court - i.e., another two justices like Scalia who already has his mind made up on most issues and doesn't need to read briefs or listen to arguments on both sides. I'm going to vote for the party who stands for the little people in this country and not for the party of the rich and famous who earn their money on the backs of those little people and then shelter their earnings off shore or in illegal bank accounts in Switzerland.Â
@kramr Because he's part of a Republican platform against abortion rights and the right of gays to get married. I don't want anymore conservative religious whack-jobs like Akin setting up shop in Washington with possibly Romney's blessing. I don't want this country ruled by the Bible or turned into a theocracy. I don't hear anything like that from Obama or the Democrats.
@peckishpete  """"You are right. Both sides lie and flip-flop""""" Then why the hell do you pick on Mittens???? Partisanship, ya I figured as much.
 @peckishpete  @kramr  Just as you will, I will vote for the party that will not base new laws on Biblical passages. Instead, I will vote for the candidate who has no clue what the Bible says about anything and instead embraces Islam as a great religion and so is more inclined to base new laws (and a new constitution?) on the Koran.
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I will vote for the candidate who feigns concern with the plight of the little people while, at the same, time sends his wife and family on multiple taxpayer paid trips to exotic locales.
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My vote will be for the one who will assure the appointment of judges to the SCOTUS who, instead of protecting our freedoms, will give license to those who practice deviant lifestyles and to those who have no regard for the value of human life. Judges who will ignore the fact that most who are opposed to the murder of unborn humans, are even more opposed to their tax dollars being used to fund those abortions.
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I will vote for the candidate who, by any measure, is just a cool guy who likes to party with upstanding celebrities like Snoop Dogg, Jerry Springer, and Samuel L. Jackson. No doubt these fine folks do not take advantage of any tax loopholes to make certain they retain control of their wealth.
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I guess one of the few benefits of living in a navy blue state is neither candidate is airing commercials.
 @kramr Color has nothing to do with it. They're just damn lucky! ;-)
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SNL's take on last presidential debate...... pretty funny.
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 @kramr That was funny!