Why is a man posting notes on car windows around town?
A casual sales pitch or something more sinister? The KATU Problem Solvers have been on the trail of a local man spotted leaving his phone number on car windshields around the Portland area.
The note reads: "I really like your car. If you ever want to sell it, please give me a call." The message is followed by a name – Norman – and a Portland-area phone number.
Yet it’s the sheer volume of notes that make this man’s seemingly casual interest in all these cars anything but – he's left similar notes on hundreds of cars and more of his would-be customers who’ve found them are contacting KATU every day.
"It's creepy," says 'Ted,' who found one of the notes on his daughter's car in Tigard. Their friends received the message as well – four times.
The family was one of several identified for this story that had their cars approached on multiple occasions and at multiple locations.
"You leave a note at their house, at their job, at the grocery store – that's pretty weird," Ted said (who asked that we not use his last name to protect his family's privacy). "This isn't normal what this guy is doing."
Ted's worry: who left the note? A stalker? A car prowler?
KATU On Your Side Problem Solver Kerry Tomlinson went undercover to find out the real story. Kerry called Norman, posing as a potential customer and telling him that she, too, found one of his notes on her car.
Norman told Kerry he once owned a car just like hers, right down to the color. And he said he was hoping, by chance, she'll sell it. Kerry then asked him how he found her car in the first place. First he said he works for FedEx and saw the vehicle on his route. But later in conversation he said he was actually riding with a friend who works for FedEx. Then he said he was simply at a friend’s house and spotted the vehicle.
Ted had a similar experience when he called Norman: "His story is changing each time you revisit it," Ted explained.
Kerry called again – posing as a different person. Norman gave her the same pitch and agreed to meet in person in the parking lot of a local restaurant to look at the car. KATU had a hidden Problem Solver camera rolling when Norman pulled up and began spinning his usual story to our undercover producer.
"He said UPS instead of FedEx, but everything else was the same," relates KATU news producer Kelly Hatmaker. "He seemed please to find it, like it was his favorite car."
But Norman was not pleased when Kerry approached him with a Problem Solver news crew in tow. He ducked our questions about his behavior and tried to hide his face from our camera, then quickly drove off.
But we already know who he is: Norman John Verbruggen the Third, from West Linn.
KATU News wanted to give Norman another chance to explain himself – calling him on the phone after the parking lot encounter. During our conversation with Norman, he claimed to be an independent car scout for dealerships who gets paid a couple hundred bucks per car he finds.
So why the lie? Why say he has a sentimental reason for buying the cars?
"It's not a bad lie," Norman said, explaining that people don't like to deal with auto dealerships, making it hard for him to close a sale. He added that he is on the "uppity-up" and "legal-beagle."
But the Oregon DMV says Norman is breaking the law. Spokesperson Shelley Snow says dealers are licensed to protect the consumer. That ensures that dealers all are bonded and have insurance, are properly trained to handle the paperwork involved in a car sale so you get the right title. Licensed dealers also have to have a place of business to make sales.
"That's so you know who to go back to," says Snow. "So it's not some fly-by-night scam you can't find and can't locate and you're just stuck."
And without that license, Snow says Norman's sale scheme is illegal and could put you at risk. And his sales pitch is making some of his would-be customers very uncomfortable.
"It almost looks like you're following people around town," Ted says. "Is that a legitimate way to do business? No."
The next step for Norman could be an investigation by the DMV for flipping cars without a license. The punishment can be serious: $5,000 for the first car, $2,500 for each car flipped after that.
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Okay, it's kind of creepy and you've posted a picture that looks like a mug shot ... even though it's not. Yes, it could be against the law if he is selling cars, but so far there is no evidence of that; he's evidently only buying them, so there's no issue with sellers not getting titles. Individuals sell their own cars all the time. Has anyone ever not been paid? Has anyone ever filed charges? People are uncormfortable, so maybe KATU could just explain that it's odd and unusual, but they have nothing to fear. That would be a real community service. Makling someone uncomfortable is not nice, but it's not against the law. So, what's the problem here that needs solving?
I got one of these notes on my car, while it was in my driveway far from the street or a parking lot. He came on my property and placed his note. I called, curious and to let him know that I wasn't interested. He was a jerk right off and hung up on me when I asked about his dealership. I called him back and let him know that if he came on my property again, it would hurt. No notes since, but the guy is still a creep engaging in regular trespassing and violating the law by operating an illegal dealership. Yeah, he's a real legal beagle alright. Beware this scumbag, and if you find such a note throw it away (or call the cops if he trespassed to place it, as seems to be his M.O.).
I got one of the notes, and called the guy 6 months later to sell my car.  He came and paid the value of the car (per my checking of the Kelly Blue Book), considering the repairs it needed.  He paid in real cash.  Sad if other people have been swindled, but I wasn't. Â
 @deathmetalcat You must be Norman.. hah hah!
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I thought this was mostly the realm of Mexicans in California who buy and sell vehicles on craigslist, etc. My Toyota truck got 4 signs on it one year, plus I was approached directly in parking lots at least 3 times. It never felt right; like they were staking you out for theft.
WE RECIEVED TWO NOTES FROM "NORMAN" WHEN WE CALLED THE PH# HE ACTED LIKE HE DIDN'T
KNOW WHY WE CALLED AND WASN'T INTERESTED IN BUYING A CAR OR SELLING US ONE????
WE THOUGHT IT VERY STRANGE
MY HUSBAND HAD A NOTE PUT ON HIS 1991 TOYOTA PICKUP AND
A YEAR LATER ONE ON HIS 2000 TOYOTA PICKUP
WHEN HE CALLED "NORMAN" HE DIDN'T ACT LIKE HE KNEW WHY WE CALLED AND WAS
NOT INTERESTED IN BUYING OR LOOKING AT THE TRUCk ? WE STIL THINK IT IS WEIERD!
JERRY
...mis-information here, folks: the story presents "Norman" as a SCOUT for dealers to BUY or him to BUY cars for dealerships, and then continues by stating how he puts car owners at risk as a SELLER of cars to them. So what is it, KATU? I understand, agree with and appreciate laws which protect consumers as you reported here. Now, is there a law inhibiting someone from BUYING a car from individuals? If so, then why? Please finish the story about Norman and his creepy actions, properly...
@Elroy Art no misinformation, just misunderstanding on your part. Norman being involved in a "car sale" does not make him the seller of the vehicle. At no point does the story identify him as the seller in the initial deal with owners. KATU has been pretty bad about alarmist junk lately, yeah, but I don't think that's the case here.
I got a "Norman" note on my car at my house a few weeks ago. Its still on my fridge in case I ever wanted to sell my car. Guess its going in the recycling bin now. Hah- I knew it was too hokie to be true!Â
I waited for this story to be edited because I don't watch TV, and, while it *is* long, it's nothing I hadn't already guessed. And, with that picture, the guy even *looks* like a crooked used-car salesman, one of the ones from the lots on SE 82nd, the ones that change their name and looks every 6 months or so.
There was a story like this last year about a guy who was leaving notes on peoples cars and houses.
Notes like "Sorry I punched you in the face" but that was Jefferson Smith. People who leave hundreds of notes on cars should be charged with littering, and indecency.
 @The Voice of Reason LOL!!
Is that some kind of a mullett?
 @I812 Why yes, I believe it *is* SOME kind of mullet...
 @whirledworld  @I812 I believe it's called the Soccer Roccer. Or, back in 1986, Gresham.You have to be having a tough time to be doing that kind of work. Maybe that's why he wears a hesher helmet.
@Playanekes @whirledworld Business in the front, party in the back!
Holy Smokes, they really dragged this guy over the coals!
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Then they sent him to the Hell of the Grilling Harpies
 @Lo Pan HAHA!! Them sireens turned him into a toad.
Here is the link to his dad's mug shot.
http://clackamasmugshots.com/mug/norman-john-jr-verbruggen-2
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His dad has a long history with police and lots of mugshots.
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Can't find out why his son, Norman John Verbruggen the Third, would have a mugshot.
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It appears he is buying cars and selling them without changing the title so that he can avoid coming up on the DMV radar. Then he sells to folks who don't change the title to their names and the original person gets all the tickets at their address. Many times cars with almost 2 years left before renewal on the plates are big finds for illegal aliens who buy them and then drive them till the registration runs out then then sells them to someone else. Sometimes this can go on for years with fake plates and fake temp stickers. It really is a scam.
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As Scotty said down below make sure that you notify DMV that you have sold the vehicle or you could be liable for any tickets or worse, any criminal activity. I sold a car once and did notify the DMV. But a few years later the police were at my door asking who I sold it to. It was involved in a bank robbery. I had the bill of sale and the name and license of the person I sold it to. It was good that I notified DMV or they might have come to my door with the SWAT team.
 @RalphCramden I bought a truck from a neighbor, who was a MC deputy, when I was young and dumb and had no idea. Just paid him cash, got the title, got insurance, and the tags were still current. What's the problem? Then I got a couple of parking tickets. Poor guy. That was probably a year later.
 @RalphCramden a mexican guy (perfectly bilingual) I went to school with set up a "car dealership" like this, dealing entirely in selling cars that could fly under the radar to illegals.
 @moej  @RalphCramden The cars you see in Fred Meyer parking lots, etc, that are for sale along 82nd are sold by a family of gypsies who are tipped off when a call goes to the tow companies, so when a store manager makes the required calls to have a vehicle towed, the family can move the vehicles before the tow trucks show up. Tip of the iceberg and most of it shouldn't be repeated. This guy is probably prospecting for that sort of organization, but it's probably all resold through Craigslist and private property.
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Many are easter block immigrants who are very good at scamming the public.
Notes like these were called "would you takes" 50 years ago. While they won't admit it, every traffic policeman has a monthly quota of tickets to write, Car salesman in the 1960's had a daily quota of phone calls, personal visits and "would you takes". They would cold call 5-10 people out of the phone book every day, visit 5 local businesses and pass out business cards, and leave 10 "would you takes" under the wiper blades of parked cars. This part of the salesman's job was called "prospecting". Wait another 50 years and someone will start printing a daily newspaper-that'll scare a lot of people!
... okay, but I'm confused. It doesn't sound like he's selling cars, or flipping them, even. If I understand your story right, he's just buying them on behalf of the dealership, right?
 @starshadow I'm with you, I thought he was just the legs. It sounded to me like he would involve the dealership "to close the deal" and actually sell the car. Hmmm. It is creepy though to seemingly target the same car in different areas.Â
Mo' Money!! Â The used car market is drying up when it comes to anything less than a gas-guzzling SUV and income taxes are going up 5.8% until next year and then get ready to really bend over the hood of your SUV...
It's been a while since I drove anything of interest, but I used to be asked face to face at gas stations, grocery stores, and any time I was around a dealership. I haven't gotten that in years, but I just assumed it was because I drive a grey import sedan nobody would want these days.Â
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I didn't know all those people, from Orlando to San Diego, were really stalkers following me around.
1985 yearbook pic?
@eyeonchina And....he could be sporting some leg warmers with what looks like the sweats he is wearing. Ha ha.....still living for his high school days and being Mr. Cool.....NOT.
 @eyeonchina IROC Camaro, and Van Halen blastin' out the t-tops no doubt.
It's a car salesman. They send e-mails to people selling cars on craigslist all the time. He'll buy the car and sale it at a profit. Case closed.
What a dumb story, they make this guy out to look like a CRIMINAL ! Socialism I tell you. If I were this guy I would sit home and never leave the couch, and SUCK THE WELFARE SYSTEM DRY ! This guy gets off the couch and hustles and hes damned to hell for it.
@Kim Slouth Hmmm, he must be your boyfriend, you're defending him so strongly. His path to success is a least somewhat ambitious, albeit misguided. Yours, on the other hand, sucking the welfare system dry -says a lot about your own path to success as a couch warmer.
It would be nice to know what kind of cars he really likes. My guess is he's looking for older Honda's, Toyota's and Acura's.  He'll try to find ones that need fixing or cosmetics and buy them cheap and "fix" them for resale. Be very careful with these folks. Get ID, bills of sale etc. Make sure you go to DMV and advise them of the sale.
 @Scotty9 I think it's more about the tags then the vehicle, per se. I think Ralph was right about the gaming of the system. I suspect that he looks for any car with over a year on the tags.
Oh God No ! Not the note !
Not news worthy, in the least !
Some marketing/buying campaign gone awray. Well, not awry, I bet this guy buys a ton of cars and at what he considers a good price. He probably works for/or is some local dealer/broker?
I've made the connection between this story and the story of the aerial occupiers outside the Standard Insurance building: The crows are working for the guy who's posting the notes.
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Car Owner: Hello. I found a note on my car with your phone number on it. What is this all about?
Sticker Man: I'm glad you called. You have a nice car. It would be a shame if something happened to it.
CO: Is that a threat?
SM: Oh, nothing like that... But, you know, there was this story on KATU.com about some crows downtown and, well, you know what crows do, don't you? And if that doesn't get your attention, I also know of a large flock of pigeons...
Why? Because he wants his 15 seconds of fame on KATU News?
I found a note like this on my 99 Toyota Tacoma last August in Gresham. I never followed up on it.
I thought it a bit suspicious because it came wrapped in a small plastic sandwich baggy.
It seemed too staged to be an actual spontaneous note.
You got me hooked. I'll be watching a 6PM.
It's now 5:09 Â , only 51 minutes to go!
I can understand why some is apprehensive with this. It could be a form of stalking, maybe some on is using the notes to see how well the car is watched. Maybe he is just an airhead. Who knows...But It seems very suspicious to me. He could be checking to see if it a woman who is alone or an elderly person or persons in which he can take advantage of. Or Just some one sticking notes on a car. but that adventure would be costly given the amount them notes cost.
 @lee986321 What makes you think he is not looking for a world champ cage fighter?
I, for one, am giddy with delight that the KATU Problem Solvers are on the trail of the sticky-note terrorist. I will be watching with rapt attention this evening, along with my wife and family, gathered before the only thing that provides meaning and direction in our lives.
Hahahaha!
This "story" is simply an ad to get you to watch the ads on the 6:00 news, which itself will be little more than ads to get you to watch Nightline and The Bachelor. Enjoy Coca-Cola and shop at Walmart. More at 11.
@badcat So true! Love my DVR and channels with no commercials.
 @badcat That's why DVRs were invented.Â
 @JohnQ.Public Yep, I don't watch that crap. And I zap through the fake "stories" with Angelica interviewing some weirdo about how this season of the bachelor is in any way newsworthy. Shameless. Hope she showered afterward.