Early look at Windows 8 baffles consumers

NEW YORK (AP) - The release of Microsoft's Windows 8 operating system is a week away, and consumers are in for a shock. Windows, used in one form or another for a generation, is getting a completely different look that will force users to learn new ways to get things done.
Microsoft is making a radical break with the past to stay relevant in a world where smartphones and tablets have eroded the three-decade dominance of the personal computer. Windows 8 is supposed to tie together Microsoft's PC, tablet and phone software with one look. But judging by the reactions of some people who have tried the PC version, it's a move that risks confusing and alienating customers.
Tony Roos, an American missionary in Paris, installed a free preview version of Windows 8 on his aging laptop to see if Microsoft's new operating system would make the PC faster and more responsive. It didn't, he said, and he quickly learned that working with the new software requires tossing out a lot of what he knows about Windows.
"It was very difficult to get used to," he said. "I have an 8-year-old and a 10-year-old, and they never got used to it. They were like, 'We're just going to use Mom's computer.'"
Windows 8 is the biggest revision of Microsoft Corp.'s operating system since it introduced Windows 95 amid great fanfare 17 years ago. Ultimately, Windows grew into a $14 billion a year business and helped make former Chief Executive Bill Gates the richest man in the world for a time. Now, due to smartphones and tablets, the personal computer industry is slumping. Computer companies are desperate for something that will get sales growing again. PC sales are expected to shrink this year for the first time since 2001, according to IHS iSuppli, a market research firm.
The question is whether the new version, which can be run on tablets and smartphones, along with the traditional PC, can satisfy the needs of both types of users.
"I am very worried that Microsoft may be about to shoot itself in the foot spectacularly," said. Michael Mace, the CEO of Silicon Valley software startup Cera Technology and a former Apple employee. Windows 8 is so different, he said, that many Windows users who aren't technophiles will feel lost, he said.
Microsoft is releasing Windows 8 on Oct. 26, and it doesn't plan to cushion the impact. Computer companies will make Windows 8 standard on practically all PCs that are sold to consumers.
Speaking to Wall Street analysts on Thursday, Microsoft's chief financial officer Peter Klein said he isn't very concerned that user confusion could slow the adoption of Windows 8. When Microsoft introduces new features, he said, people eventually realize that "those innovations have delivered way more value, way more productivity and way better usability." That's going to be true of Windows 8 too, he said.
Instead of the familiar Start menu and icons, Windows 8 displays applications as a colorful array of tiles, which can feature updated information from the applications. For instance, the "Photos" tile shows an image from the user's collection, and the "People" tile shows images from the user's social-media contacts. (Microsoft is licensed to use AP content in the Windows 8 news applications.)
The tiles are big and easy to hit with a finger - convenient for a touch screen. Applications fill the whole screen by default - convenient for a tablet screen, which is usually smaller than a PC's. The little buttons that surround Windows 7 applications, for functions like controlling the speaker volume, are hidden, giving a clean, uncluttered view. When you need those little buttons, you can bring them out, but users have to figure out on their own how to do it.
"In the quest for simplicity, they sacrificed obviousness," said Sebastiaan de With, an interface designer and the chief creative officer at app developer DoubleTwist in San Francisco.
Technology blogger Chris Pirillo posted a YouTube video of his father using a preview version of Windows 8 for the first time. As the elder Pirillo tours the operating system with no help from his son, he blunders into the old "Desktop" environment and can't figure out how to get back to the Start tiles. (Hint: Move the mouse cursor into the top right corner of the screen, then swipe down to the "Start" button that appears, and click it. On a touch screen, swipe a finger in from the right edge of the screen to reveal the Start button.) The four-minute video has been viewed more than 1.1 million times since it was posted in March.
"There are many things that are hidden," said Raluca Budiu, a user experience specialist with Nielsen Norman Group. "Once users discover them, they have to remember where they are. People will have to work hard and use this system on a regular basis."
Mace, the software CEO, has used every version of Windows since version 2.0, which came out in 1987. Each one, he said, built upon the previous one. Users didn't need to toss out their old ways of doing things when new software came along. Windows 8 ditches that tradition of continuity, he said.
"Most Windows users don't view their PCs as being broken to begin with. If you tell them 'Oh, here's a new version of Windows, and you have to relearn everything to use it,' how many normal users are going to want to do that?" he asked.
The familiar Windows Desktop is still available through one of the tiles, and most programs will open up in that environment. But since the Start button is gone, users will have to flip back and forth between the desktop and the tile screen.
There's additional potential for confusion because there's one version of Windows 8, called "Windows RT," that looks like the PC version but doesn't run regular Windows programs. It's intended for tablets and lightweight tablet-laptop hybrids.
Budiu believes the transition to Windows 8 will be most difficult for PC users, because Microsoft's design choices favor touch screens rather than mice and keyboards. Alex Wukovich, a Londoner who tried Windows 8 on a friend's laptop, agrees.
"On a desktop, it just felt really weird," he said. "It feels like it's a tablet operating system that Microsoft managed to twist and shoehorn onto a desktop."
Not everyone who has tried Windows 8 agrees with the critics.
Sheldon Skaggs, a Web developer in Charlotte, N.C., thought he was going to hate Windows 8, but he needed to do something to speed up his 5-year-old laptop. So he installed the new software.
"After a bit of a learning curve and playing around with it a bit more, you get used to it, surprisingly," he said.
The computer now boots up faster than it did with Windows Vista, he said.
Vista was Microsoft's most recent operating-system flop. It was seen as so clunky and buggy when released in 2007 that many PC users sat out the upgrade cycle and waited for Windows 7, which arrived two and a half years later. Companies and other institutions wait much longer than consumers to upgrade their software, and many will keep paying for Windows 7. Many companies are still using Windows XP, released in 2001.
Colin Gillis, an analyst at BGC Financial, is optimistic about Windows 8, pointing out that it's snappy and runs well on PCs with limited processing power, making it suited for compact, tablet-style machines. But he also notes that through Microsoft's history, roughly every other operating-system release has been a letdown.
Intel Corp. makes the processors that go into 80 percent of PCs, and has a strong interest in the success of Windows. CEO Paul Otellini said Tuesday that when the company has let consumers try Windows 8 on expensive "ultrabook" laptops with touch screens, "the feedback is universally positive." But he told analysts that he doesn't really know if people will embrace Windows 8 for mainstream PCs.
"We'll know a lot more about this 90 days from now," he said.
Microsoft is making a radical break with the past to stay relevant in a world where smartphones and tablets have eroded the three-decade dominance of the personal computer. Windows 8 is supposed to tie together Microsoft's PC, tablet and phone software with one look. But judging by the reactions of some people who have tried the PC version, it's a move that risks confusing and alienating customers.
Tony Roos, an American missionary in Paris, installed a free preview version of Windows 8 on his aging laptop to see if Microsoft's new operating system would make the PC faster and more responsive. It didn't, he said, and he quickly learned that working with the new software requires tossing out a lot of what he knows about Windows.
"It was very difficult to get used to," he said. "I have an 8-year-old and a 10-year-old, and they never got used to it. They were like, 'We're just going to use Mom's computer.'"
Windows 8 is the biggest revision of Microsoft Corp.'s operating system since it introduced Windows 95 amid great fanfare 17 years ago. Ultimately, Windows grew into a $14 billion a year business and helped make former Chief Executive Bill Gates the richest man in the world for a time. Now, due to smartphones and tablets, the personal computer industry is slumping. Computer companies are desperate for something that will get sales growing again. PC sales are expected to shrink this year for the first time since 2001, according to IHS iSuppli, a market research firm.
The question is whether the new version, which can be run on tablets and smartphones, along with the traditional PC, can satisfy the needs of both types of users.
"I am very worried that Microsoft may be about to shoot itself in the foot spectacularly," said. Michael Mace, the CEO of Silicon Valley software startup Cera Technology and a former Apple employee. Windows 8 is so different, he said, that many Windows users who aren't technophiles will feel lost, he said.
Microsoft is releasing Windows 8 on Oct. 26, and it doesn't plan to cushion the impact. Computer companies will make Windows 8 standard on practically all PCs that are sold to consumers.
Speaking to Wall Street analysts on Thursday, Microsoft's chief financial officer Peter Klein said he isn't very concerned that user confusion could slow the adoption of Windows 8. When Microsoft introduces new features, he said, people eventually realize that "those innovations have delivered way more value, way more productivity and way better usability." That's going to be true of Windows 8 too, he said.
Instead of the familiar Start menu and icons, Windows 8 displays applications as a colorful array of tiles, which can feature updated information from the applications. For instance, the "Photos" tile shows an image from the user's collection, and the "People" tile shows images from the user's social-media contacts. (Microsoft is licensed to use AP content in the Windows 8 news applications.)
The tiles are big and easy to hit with a finger - convenient for a touch screen. Applications fill the whole screen by default - convenient for a tablet screen, which is usually smaller than a PC's. The little buttons that surround Windows 7 applications, for functions like controlling the speaker volume, are hidden, giving a clean, uncluttered view. When you need those little buttons, you can bring them out, but users have to figure out on their own how to do it.
"In the quest for simplicity, they sacrificed obviousness," said Sebastiaan de With, an interface designer and the chief creative officer at app developer DoubleTwist in San Francisco.
Technology blogger Chris Pirillo posted a YouTube video of his father using a preview version of Windows 8 for the first time. As the elder Pirillo tours the operating system with no help from his son, he blunders into the old "Desktop" environment and can't figure out how to get back to the Start tiles. (Hint: Move the mouse cursor into the top right corner of the screen, then swipe down to the "Start" button that appears, and click it. On a touch screen, swipe a finger in from the right edge of the screen to reveal the Start button.) The four-minute video has been viewed more than 1.1 million times since it was posted in March.
"There are many things that are hidden," said Raluca Budiu, a user experience specialist with Nielsen Norman Group. "Once users discover them, they have to remember where they are. People will have to work hard and use this system on a regular basis."
Mace, the software CEO, has used every version of Windows since version 2.0, which came out in 1987. Each one, he said, built upon the previous one. Users didn't need to toss out their old ways of doing things when new software came along. Windows 8 ditches that tradition of continuity, he said.
"Most Windows users don't view their PCs as being broken to begin with. If you tell them 'Oh, here's a new version of Windows, and you have to relearn everything to use it,' how many normal users are going to want to do that?" he asked.
The familiar Windows Desktop is still available through one of the tiles, and most programs will open up in that environment. But since the Start button is gone, users will have to flip back and forth between the desktop and the tile screen.
There's additional potential for confusion because there's one version of Windows 8, called "Windows RT," that looks like the PC version but doesn't run regular Windows programs. It's intended for tablets and lightweight tablet-laptop hybrids.
Budiu believes the transition to Windows 8 will be most difficult for PC users, because Microsoft's design choices favor touch screens rather than mice and keyboards. Alex Wukovich, a Londoner who tried Windows 8 on a friend's laptop, agrees.
"On a desktop, it just felt really weird," he said. "It feels like it's a tablet operating system that Microsoft managed to twist and shoehorn onto a desktop."
Not everyone who has tried Windows 8 agrees with the critics.
Sheldon Skaggs, a Web developer in Charlotte, N.C., thought he was going to hate Windows 8, but he needed to do something to speed up his 5-year-old laptop. So he installed the new software.
"After a bit of a learning curve and playing around with it a bit more, you get used to it, surprisingly," he said.
The computer now boots up faster than it did with Windows Vista, he said.
Vista was Microsoft's most recent operating-system flop. It was seen as so clunky and buggy when released in 2007 that many PC users sat out the upgrade cycle and waited for Windows 7, which arrived two and a half years later. Companies and other institutions wait much longer than consumers to upgrade their software, and many will keep paying for Windows 7. Many companies are still using Windows XP, released in 2001.
Colin Gillis, an analyst at BGC Financial, is optimistic about Windows 8, pointing out that it's snappy and runs well on PCs with limited processing power, making it suited for compact, tablet-style machines. But he also notes that through Microsoft's history, roughly every other operating-system release has been a letdown.
Intel Corp. makes the processors that go into 80 percent of PCs, and has a strong interest in the success of Windows. CEO Paul Otellini said Tuesday that when the company has let consumers try Windows 8 on expensive "ultrabook" laptops with touch screens, "the feedback is universally positive." But he told analysts that he doesn't really know if people will embrace Windows 8 for mainstream PCs.
"We'll know a lot more about this 90 days from now," he said.
Windows XP will still remain in the game, even after support ends for it in 2014.
Oh and I love how you have to have 3rd party to run a DVD player..But DVDs are coming to an end..Still we can make an ISO of one said dvd and use the ISO to play a movie.
Until something truly better comes along, it's XP Professional SP3 for me.
Microsoft: you can get a much better OS but you can't pay more.
I tried it (the RC)....didn't like it. Pretty much an OS built for a touchscreen.
 @Saltire I have the RTM. A lot better then the R.C.
Testers have been saying Windows 8 was horrid on the PC platform since the first RC was released, and Microsoft continued to push the garbage rather than ditching it like they should have done. I see an increase in Apple market share coming soon.
 @Ramsesthegreat I do have to agree with you on this one many of have complained, commented and said look MS you need to change this or people will not want it. and it dieffinatley will not fly with business. but, we can speak all we want, it just falls on deaf ears. Liek I said I will pay 15 bucks, but then, I will install it as a secondary system. So the OS will be a secondary not a primary. Linux will become my main system. Kind of ticked at what Apple has done with there Lawsuits and there becoming just as bad as MS. Right now the Linux community is praying that MS will fall flat on its face. It will open up resources for gaming companies to change over to both Apple and Linux.
 @Ramsesthegreat I am currently how ever running a version of Windows 8 that is legit and not a trial version.
 @Ramsesthegreat I was hoping that KATU will allow posting of the software so that they can see it up close and personal. Not every one goes to YouTube and some people like the You News as it isn't full of hype.
 @Ramsesthegreat I see that KATU didn't allow for my story on YouNews.
The real failure here is the one-size-fits-all mentality. Â My phone/tablet/desktop are not the same device. Â I do not need the same OS on each. Â I will never use a touchscreen on my desktop, and I won't develop software on my tablet. Â Don't force me to compromise on every device I use.
also the video above with the Fish is the first release of Windows 8 beta
I would also like to add to a heated debate. Microsoft can remove , repair, or deactivate you software at any time they feel fit . Especially if they believe something shouldn't be there. and the OS does a lot of reporting and phoning home
 @lee986321 More phoning home? I'm done with MS (pretty much as a whole) due to their incessant updates and their paranoia on whether your software is all licensed properly. Most of the network traffic that I've monitored on a one particular server was it phoning home.
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The Mac may have its faults but at least I get done what I want instead of a zillion popups warning me about stupid os-level crap.
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 @Jamie Linux is good too, if you have the ability, give Ubuntu 12.10 a try, yeah, it takes soem settling up but once it is running, it has a few quirks. at any rate I for see Linux systems like Apple and Ubuntu type software about to make a big entry. there are talks that chip and hardware manufactures are having issues with MS licensing there things.
I think we may witness Either MS demise or...a Change that way MS does things for them to survive. but hey for 15 bucks...I am not complaining lol 15 bucks for an OS well that is all good...but anything more and I wouldn't pay a dime.
 @lee986321  @Jamie I prefer Ubuntu 10.04 as the 12.10 version reminds me way too much of windows with the side bar.  My first leap into the Linux world was about four years ago and I did it blind (removed windows XP and installed Linux) and my only regret is that I didn't do it sooner.Â
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Yeah, there is a learning curve but by the end of the first day I knew I would never go back :DÂ
I would also like to take time to "quote a relatives of my Fiance's Her words, What the Hell is this Crap?
Marcy is taking computer classes and she had no clue that this was in the works.
I replied this is Windows 8, and she said "I will Never update" I have a feeling that she will be in for a rude awakening when she arrives at college some time and find the PCs updated to the new OS. Then again mybe not..who knows.. Iam wondering how many people will go to work and the Companies that chose to upgrade , I wonder how much shock there will be.
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I would like to Challenge KATU to take the Windows 8 challenge. and offer a non biased opinion. I also would like to see the reactions of some of the team members.
 @lee986321 I don't think businesses will update quickly if at all to Windows 8 ... There are a lot of businesses out there still running on XP. Â
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Honestly I think that Microsoft is gambling that most people are going to migrate to tablets and are hoping to get most of the market as this shift happens. Â My husband has a desktop and is thinking of just going straight to a tablet and ditching his old PC and I think those are the people windows is hoping to get. Â
I am going to take some screen shots of what I have and hopefully you will see both sides pros and cons.
I have ran all Versions of Windows 8, I have the Final Version. Also People need to take note that on Windows essentials 2012, there has been some major changes as well as a new ToS that one should read.
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I am willing to pay the $15.00 for the upgrade disk. I have found many features. The best feature is to use ALT+F4 and that will bring up the shut down menu.
I how ever do not see any business that will be willing to upgrade.
Also you will need to know that up on the release of this New windows you will not be able to get Windows 7 through retailer markets, its Count Down of death has now began.
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I how ever foresee a large boost in the interest of Linux as well as MAC.
I will ahve to agree, I do believe Microsoft has shot themselves in the foot.
Oh I know that Video. just be thankful for the manual that will accompany with the OS.
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I will say this when I performed a "Bench Mark test", instead of Crashing the OS did indeed Run FFXVI. instead of crashing, so the truth is in soem way s it does run better then Windows 7. One will have to use thrid party Software or Purchase Windows Media Center to Run there DVDs and Or DVD ISO and Or MPG files from Cameras that uses MPG format. AVCHD is in Standard definition, I guess is out.
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One can use the Start icons to gain access to a great number of things like FB, Google, and twitter.
installing takes only a few minutes, Boot up is neck in neck with Linux 12.10. tiles are adjustable in size, and there is an app to create your own tiles.
The tiles are big and easy to hit with a finger
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Nothing on my computer has a large icon. It takes up space I need to actually use the application So this to me is a bad thing. -1
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Applications fill the whole screen by default
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I multitask. I may have 14 or 20 open applications and windows at any one time. I see 5 screens and have them âspannedâ to allow me to play videos on any one, or to span an application (like Visual studio) over more than one screen. Â So this to me is a bad thing. -1
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The little buttons that surround Windows 7 applications, for functions like controlling the speaker volume, are hidden, giving a clean, uncluttered view
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I like the little buttons. I use them thatâs why they exist. To me this is a bad thing. -1
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"There are many things that are hidden," said Raluca Budiu, a user experience specialist with Nielsen Norman Group. "Once users discover them, they have to remember where they are. People will have to work hard and use this system on a regular basis."
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That is just change, it happens. But people will be pressured to not want it. -0
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The familiar Windows Desktop is still available through one of the tiles, and most programs will open up in that environment. But since the Start button is gone, users will have to flip back and forth between the desktop and the tile screen.
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My screen is empty of icons. They are under things and thus I donât use them so I donât waste the CPU to render them. Having to minimize stuff to get to applications is a HUGE pain in the butt. This alone is a deal breaker. -10
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Budiu believes the transition to Windows 8 will be most difficult for PC users, because Microsoft's design choices favor touch screens rather than mice and keyboards. Alex Wukovich, a Londoner who tried Windows 8 on a friend's laptop, agrees.
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Not just a 5 screens a keyboard and mouse. I also have an additional pad. I have too specific ways to use input over using the simply kindergartener touchscreen. -1
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The computer now boots up faster than it did with Windows Vista, he said.
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So does my Windows 95 computer. Post âNTâ Microsoft decided to put 200 additional services on the computer. Most people will never use. But because they âmightâ want to âsomedayâ they start. So itâs not surprising, in fact I would be disappointed, if Microsoft didnât have a better performing operating system than Vista. Thatâs kinda like hoping Ford makes a better car than the Edsel.
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Many companies are still using Windows XP, released in 2001.
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Backward compatibility. Sorry Microsoft but the enterprise for good or ill gets stuck using an application that become legacy.
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All in all we have nothing but negatives (personally -15 professionally -20).
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I donât have faith this will go anywhere. I am certain Microsoft will try and squeeze makers like they did to force adoption of Windows 7 (they pulled all the OEM XP and would not allow companies to buy any more licenses to install it).
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That will manufactures will move on to another OS.
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 @Repoman meh many are also using the task bar for there icons.
 @Repoman DVD and MPG has been nixed, how will you feel if you have to purchase 3rd party Software just to View an MPG file? I got Lucky and didn't trash NERO 10, At least I can edit my video using 5.1 surround sound. And I was lucky that it handles all the Video Formats. How ever when one loads certain software windows will need to down load . NEt Frame work Versions.
Hacks have came out to reinstate the Start menu, I have played with those. some good things some bad things about them. One major thing that irked me is while up dating my Video Graphics, it crashed other apps, like Photos and such and then it ceased to play the Videos in the "What ever in hell they want to call it" interface MS can not use "Metro" as they got in trouble from some German based Organization that was already using the term.
All I can say is...I think this will boost Apple and Linux Popularity, Open Source always needed some help to get its footing. remember Dell Offered a Linux based system to its alternative Windows Vista Systems.
Really stupid move.