Some asking whether law should forbid 'caller ID spoofing'
SEATTLE -- The number on your caller ID might not be who you think it is.
It's called "caller ID spoofing," and while it's perfectly legal at the moment, a number of high-profile cases have some asking if the law should be changed.
Most use the spoofing technique for a few laughs, but police say can also be very dangerous.
When police received a 911 call from someone saying he was holding two people at gunpoint and threatening to kill them, police took the call very seriously. It turns out the call was from a teenager in another state, and he was lying about the whole thing. He used caller ID spoofing to pretend the call was coming from another home.
That's an example of why critics of spoofing say it's getting out of hand.
"As a consumer, you can't stop it," said Paul Judge. "The best you can do is realize that's it's possible."
Using spoofing, callers can make it appear they're calling from the White House.
Meir Cohen is the founder of Spoofcard, one of the several for-profit caller ID spoofing services currently available.
"It may be deceiving to put in someone else's number, but it's not a crime," Cohen said.
Spoofcard promotes itself as a fun and legal way to pull a phone prank on someone, but Shannon Casad would disagree.
Someone picked Casad's phone number to spoof. The scammer began calling people everywhere, and Casad's number was showing up in the caller ID. She said her phone ringing off the hook with angry call-backs.
"They said, 'Who are you and why are you calling me?'" Casad said. "Over three days, I had close to 100 calls from all over the U.S. and I obviously don't know any of these phone numbers."
There have been multiple attempts to ban caller ID spoofing, and in 2010 Congress compromised and President Obama signed a law that says spoofing is legal because there are legitimate uses for it.
"We have a lot of battered women that are using it to protect their phone numbers. We have a lot of law enforcement that use it to catch the bad guys," Cohen said.
Cohen does admit there a few rotten apples who misuse the technology, like Paris Hilton. Hilton had her Spoofcard accound canceled after being accused of using it to hack into voicemails. That's also how the English tabloid News of the World got into big trouble.
Many say hacking voicemail is all too easy with a Spoofcard.
Cell phones often bypass access codes and go directly to voicemail when you call your cell phone number using that same number. With that in mind, someone can set up a spoof card using you cell phone number and get direct access to your voicemail without having to know your access code.
Federal law prohibits telemarketers, collection agencies and anyone using caller ID spoofing to defraud, but the reality is that very few spoofing criminals are caught.
"There's no way to police it on an individual basis," Cohen said.
Florida and Mississippi have tried to ban the practice entirely, but Cohen fought back in court and won. He has a warning to other states thinking about doing the same.
"We are confident that we have set a precedent in Florida and Mississippi for any other states that would think about trying to do the same thing," he said.
Cohen said his company hands over a user's call history to authorities if it gets a court order to do so. Anyone who feels they've been spoofed should register a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission.
Thats funny - the same day Katu runs this story about how to spoof your ID somebody calls in multiple bomb threats in WA. First there was caller ID, then they came out with caller ID blocking, then came caller ID blocking override then caller ID blocking override override lol. Like Nobody said, there doesn't seem to be any good use for spoofing.
Hard for me to think of any possible scenario under which it would be acceptable to spoof an ID. All allowing it does is enable telemarketers, scammers, thieves and politicians (or are those last two the same thing). It should not be legal to spoof or hide your ID.
 @Nobody Says the person using an anonymous handle on a forum...
Remember when we didn't have caller ID at all? That wasn't very long ago. I don't care either way.
I keep an air horn beside my phone, the aerosol type for bicycles. The gal I spoke with in the state's Attorney General's office couldn't think of any laws forbidding this. She may not have been a lawyer, so, this is not me saying it's legal, just I couldn't find anything forbidding it. It got the "lower your credit card interest" scammers to stop calling me! Unfortunately you have to sit through the computer generated calling system then press the appropriate number to speak with a representative. I don't like the concept of anyone being able to fake the number they are calling from. I don't even see where the joke for using it may lay. If you don't want your number to be seen then block it. This gives the person you are calling a fair chance, for if you don't want them to see your number then maybe they don't want to speak with you?! As for the police? Really, they should have no issue with using this in conjunction with a proper investigation. Creditors and other businesses that have a lawful use for this can be licensed to use it thereby making it traceable.
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 @HarryJuku Concur! That is my policy too.
Banning spoofing isn't going to do a thing. A large percentage of the spoof calls are already illegal in some way, so I doubt it will bother these guys to break one more law while they are at it.
The problem is the way the technology was implemented. The protocol has no security at all built into it, so the caller ID is relatively easy to hack. Remember, most of these calls start as VoIP, meaning they are generated from the internet and thus under software control.
Finally, there are a few more "legitimate" uses of IP spoofing. Services that forward calls to individual cell phones will want to display the original number. Also large organizations with numerous phone lines will want their caller ID to show a main number-or an 800 number- as the originating line. And if you use a calling card, the company handling your call often sends along your phone number as the originator-rather than the calling card phone that actually made the call.
The New York Times used to spoof their number on all outgoing calls (111-111-1111) so that there were no phone records of calls from NYT reporters.
Yeah them Damn robob cals went to caller ID Spoofing, Collection agencies went to caller Id Spoofing, Hell, Caller Id spoofing is the new Norm..And the collection Agencies, egads they seem to Phish for people I have never met, or known..and any one ever have an issue like this after a number change, Hell had one collection agency call my Fiance a number of names and were from India and they had the wrong person all together...Freaking A I set them straight when I said here in the US you can not threaten a person bodilly harm.. and I got the name of the agency that did that..and I further said, My country is at war with your country, maybe I aught to call in the armed forces and have your place of orgion declared as a hostile threat. and since you threatened that makes you a terrorist..the guy immediately said so sorry for wrong number, please, I beg you don't call the military..I pretended to call an official he was scared to death... Never heard from them ever again.
Funny how even Innocent people get them damn calls just because of a recycled number.I finally just ignore the spoofed numbers. Or play the 10,000 question game with he agency that calls..When Board I love to have fun with them. when they call for A Tracey or what ever, I say I can not legally give out the information rather that person exists or does not exist at this address.. And Then I say this call is being recorded recorded..
Do you wish to continue.. I actually had an Chancey give me 10 peoples first and last names..addresses, and the like and they were asking me if I new these people..Like what the hell am I..some damn Oracle or something?Word must circulate as the calls have finally ceased, well for now, so Please, for innocent peoples sake, please pay your bills because people like me are pissed off at getting calls for you.
I have a bill collector calling me for a bill of my sister. He told me that since she was my sister I needed to pay for the bill. After I told him that I don't talk to her and have not in 7 1/2 years and I am not liable for her bill. When I see that number I now awnser my phone with"911 how can I help you." They have not called for a bit. To see more Idea's on how to mess with bill collectors or telemarketers then goto tomm mabe on you-tube and watch what he does. The Best is the Homicide prank.LMAO
Time to nip this in the bud. Permanently.
Caller ID + answering machine - if it doesn't display the name of someone I'm willing to talk to, like my son or mother, then I don't answer. If it's someone legit that I need to talk to, they will leave a message.
@bydl I hate it when they just give a number. No Name just a call this number. Who would call those back? I only call back when I know who it is that I'm calling and why.
 @bydl ~  Yep; that's just what I do..!  If it's a number (or name) that I know, I'll pick up the call; otherwise, I just let it go to voice-mail.   I'd guess that at least 95% of those that I let go to V-M just hang up; no message...and all that tells me is that is wasn't anybody I wanted to talk to anyway (read: Good Riddance!).
what people dont realize is you can check someone else voicemail with this.
If you spoof your number to make the system think its the owner dialing their own number to get acces to their voicemail then you now also have access to their voicemail.
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Bad things can be done with this. The problem is a normal person hasn't figured out the harm yet so its legal.
 @mike The problem there is the lack of security in the VMS, not the caller ID spoofing.  Blaming the spoofing, is like blaming a screwdriver for starting a car.
 @mike sounds like a step in the direction of identity theft since there is often times one might talk with the bank or attorney or any number of private calls. Spoofing is also like harassment and stalking as well. Lying via phone spoofing is phone-fraud in my opinion.
How about busineses and corporations who are trying to trick you into answering?
@erudite Then awnser you're phone in broken english. I like to speak German if I don't know the number. If it is one of my friends they awnser back. If it is not then they hang up.
 @erudite these are my favorite, I answer with long silence.see if any one Answers or hangs up..They called me I didn't call them.
âIt's 100 percent legal as long as it's not used with the intend to defraud or cause harm,"Â Well why else would you be spoofing a number then?
 @dkgiovenco Ding! Ding! Ding! You EXACTLY hit the heart of this wretched "invention". It causes harm and defrauds by the very nature of it's existence and use.
@whirledworld @dkgiovenco Who is defrauding who when someone won't answer the phone to talk to someone they owe money to? The answer...the person who owes the money.
i don't have caller id. it is useless and should be a free service of the phone company. i tried it when it was first offered and most of the sales calls were blocked info. no way would i pay even a buck a month to have it.
I've used spoofing in the past, but only for little practical jokes that aren't even remotely harmful. It's a little too easy to use the spoofing for illegal activities, such as scams, harassing, etc... So given the opportunity to outlaw it, I would vote to make it illegal. The possibility for harm far outweighs the good.
@advocatus diaboli I used it once to send five pizza's over to a friends house once. Then we waited for the Pizza man to leave and a group knocked on his door asking where the Pizza was.
 @cpt.iceman  @advocatus If your pal did not pay for those pizzas and sent them away, that is theft by deceit and fraud. Both the pizza place and the delivery person's earnings were damaged by this really f'd up scheme of yours. You just DON'T mess with other people's efforts to earn an honest living for your own selfish and stupid "joke".Â
I do this frequently. One of the best 'spoofs' to have show up is Washington County Jail.
You can defeat the app, but a lot of people (especially the elderly) will and do get taken for a ride, which isn't so funny.
 @Don_Keyshow get a life