Obama: Fiscal cliff deal close, not done as deadline looms

WASHINGTON (AP) - Agonizingly close to a New Year's Eve compromise, the White House and congressional Republicans agreed Monday to block across-the-board tax increases set for midnight, but held up a final deal as they haggled away the final hours of 2012 in a dispute over spending cuts.
"It appears that an agreement to prevent this New Year's tax hike is within sight," President Barack Obama said in an early-afternoon status report on negotiations. "But it's not done," he added of legislation that redeems his campaign pledge to raise taxes on the wealthy while sparing the middle class.
Even by the dysfunctional standards of government-by-gridlock, the activity at both ends of historic Pennsylvania Avenue was remarkable as the White House and Congress struggled over legislation to prevent a "fiscal cliff" of tax increases and spending cuts.
As darkness fell on the last day of the year, Obama, Vice President Joe Biden and their aides were at work in the White House, and lights burned in the House and Senate. Democrats complained that Obama had given away too much in agreeing to limit tax increases to incomes over $450,000, far above the $250,000 level he campaigned on. Yet some Republicans recoiled at the prospect of raising taxes at all.
A late dispute over the estate tax produced allegations of bad faith from all sides - but no swift compromise.
Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell - shepherding final talks with Biden - agreed with Obama that an overall deal was near. In remarks on the Senate floor, he suggested Congress move quickly to pass tax legislation and "continue to work on finding smarter ways to cut spending" next year.
The White House and Democrats initially declined the offer, preferring to prevent the cuts from kicking in at the Pentagon and domestic agencies alike. Officials said they might yet reconsider, although there was also talk of a short-term delay in the reductions.
While the deadline to prevent tax increases and spending cuts was technically midnight, passage of legislation by the time a new Congress takes office at noon on Jan. 3, 2013 - the likely timetable - would eliminate or minimize any inconvenience for taxpayers.
For now, more than the embarrassment of a gridlocked Congress working through New Year's Eve in the Capitol was at stake.
Economists in and out of government have warned that a combination of tax hikes and spending cuts could trigger a new recession, and the White House and Congress have spent the seven seeks since the Nov. 6 elections struggling for a compromise to protect the economy.
Even now, with time running out, partisan agendas were evident.
Obama used his appearance to chastise Congress, and to lay down a marker for the next round of negotiations early in 2013 when Republicans intend to seek spending cuts in exchange for letting the Treasury to borrow above the current debt limit of $16.4 trillion.
"Now, if Republicans think that I will finish the job of deficit reduction through spending cuts alone - and you hear that sometimes coming from them ... then they've got another think coming. ... That's not how it's going to work at least as long as I'm president," he said.
"And I'm going to be president for the next four years, I think," he added.
Officials in both parties said agreement had been reached to prevent tax increases on most Americans, while letting rates rise on individual income over $400,000 and household earnings over $450,000 to a maximum of 39.6 percent from the current 35 percent. That marked a victory for Obama, who campaigned successfully for re-election on a platform of requiring the wealthy to pay more.
Officials said any agreement would also raise taxes on the value of estates exceeding $5 million to 40 percent, but a late dispute emerged on that point as well as on spending cuts. Democrats accused Republicans of making a 11th-hour demand to have the $5 million threshold rise each year to take inflation into account. GOP officials said the White House had agreed to the proposal on Sunday night, a claim administration officials disputed.
Any compromise was also expected to extend expiring jobless benefits for 2 million unemployed, prevent a 27 percent cut in fees for doctors who treat Medicare patients and likely avoid a near-doubling of milk prices.
Much or all of the revenue to be raised through higher taxes on the wealthy would help hold down the amount paid to the Internal Revenue Service by the middle class.
In addition to preventing higher rates for most, any agreement would retain existing breaks for families with children, for low-earning taxpayers and for those with a child in college.
In addition, the two sides agreed to prevent the Alternative Minimum Tax from expanding to affect an estimated 28 million households for the first time in 2013, with an average increase of more than $3,000. The law was originally designed to make sure millionaires did not escape taxes, but inflation has gradually exposed more and more households with lower earnings to its impact.
To help businesses, the two sides also agreed to extend an existing research and development tax credit as well as other breaks designed to boost renewable energy production. Details on those provisions were sketchy.
Obama's remarks irritated some Republicans.
Sen. John McCain of Arizona they would "clearly antagonize members of the House."
There was no response from Speaker John Boehner, who has been content to remain in the background while McConnell did the negotiating.
Some Democratic officials said that with his comments, Obama was hoping to ease the concerns of liberals in his own party who feared he had given away too much in the current round of talks over taxes.
Obama campaigned on a call for higher tax rates on income over $200,000 for individuals and $250,000 for couples, far lower than the $400,000 and $450,000 that Biden and McConnell have set.
Similarly, the pending agreement on the estate tax would allow more large estates to escape taxation than many Democrats prefer.
By late afternoon, the two sides remained separated by a stubborn dispute over spending cuts scheduled to take effect on the Pentagon and domestic programs alike.
Officials familiar with the talks said the White House has been seeking agreement to stop the cuts from taking effect, either for a period of months or a year, and wanted to count higher taxes created elsewhere in the legislation to offset the cost.
Republicans have said they are willing to delay the across-the-board cuts, but only if Obama and Democrats agree to targeted savings from government programs to take their place.
"It appears that an agreement to prevent this New Year's tax hike is within sight," President Barack Obama said in an early-afternoon status report on negotiations. "But it's not done," he added of legislation that redeems his campaign pledge to raise taxes on the wealthy while sparing the middle class.
Even by the dysfunctional standards of government-by-gridlock, the activity at both ends of historic Pennsylvania Avenue was remarkable as the White House and Congress struggled over legislation to prevent a "fiscal cliff" of tax increases and spending cuts.
As darkness fell on the last day of the year, Obama, Vice President Joe Biden and their aides were at work in the White House, and lights burned in the House and Senate. Democrats complained that Obama had given away too much in agreeing to limit tax increases to incomes over $450,000, far above the $250,000 level he campaigned on. Yet some Republicans recoiled at the prospect of raising taxes at all.
A late dispute over the estate tax produced allegations of bad faith from all sides - but no swift compromise.
Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell - shepherding final talks with Biden - agreed with Obama that an overall deal was near. In remarks on the Senate floor, he suggested Congress move quickly to pass tax legislation and "continue to work on finding smarter ways to cut spending" next year.
The White House and Democrats initially declined the offer, preferring to prevent the cuts from kicking in at the Pentagon and domestic agencies alike. Officials said they might yet reconsider, although there was also talk of a short-term delay in the reductions.
While the deadline to prevent tax increases and spending cuts was technically midnight, passage of legislation by the time a new Congress takes office at noon on Jan. 3, 2013 - the likely timetable - would eliminate or minimize any inconvenience for taxpayers.
For now, more than the embarrassment of a gridlocked Congress working through New Year's Eve in the Capitol was at stake.
Economists in and out of government have warned that a combination of tax hikes and spending cuts could trigger a new recession, and the White House and Congress have spent the seven seeks since the Nov. 6 elections struggling for a compromise to protect the economy.
Even now, with time running out, partisan agendas were evident.
Obama used his appearance to chastise Congress, and to lay down a marker for the next round of negotiations early in 2013 when Republicans intend to seek spending cuts in exchange for letting the Treasury to borrow above the current debt limit of $16.4 trillion.
"Now, if Republicans think that I will finish the job of deficit reduction through spending cuts alone - and you hear that sometimes coming from them ... then they've got another think coming. ... That's not how it's going to work at least as long as I'm president," he said.
"And I'm going to be president for the next four years, I think," he added.
Officials in both parties said agreement had been reached to prevent tax increases on most Americans, while letting rates rise on individual income over $400,000 and household earnings over $450,000 to a maximum of 39.6 percent from the current 35 percent. That marked a victory for Obama, who campaigned successfully for re-election on a platform of requiring the wealthy to pay more.
Officials said any agreement would also raise taxes on the value of estates exceeding $5 million to 40 percent, but a late dispute emerged on that point as well as on spending cuts. Democrats accused Republicans of making a 11th-hour demand to have the $5 million threshold rise each year to take inflation into account. GOP officials said the White House had agreed to the proposal on Sunday night, a claim administration officials disputed.
Any compromise was also expected to extend expiring jobless benefits for 2 million unemployed, prevent a 27 percent cut in fees for doctors who treat Medicare patients and likely avoid a near-doubling of milk prices.
Much or all of the revenue to be raised through higher taxes on the wealthy would help hold down the amount paid to the Internal Revenue Service by the middle class.
In addition to preventing higher rates for most, any agreement would retain existing breaks for families with children, for low-earning taxpayers and for those with a child in college.
In addition, the two sides agreed to prevent the Alternative Minimum Tax from expanding to affect an estimated 28 million households for the first time in 2013, with an average increase of more than $3,000. The law was originally designed to make sure millionaires did not escape taxes, but inflation has gradually exposed more and more households with lower earnings to its impact.
To help businesses, the two sides also agreed to extend an existing research and development tax credit as well as other breaks designed to boost renewable energy production. Details on those provisions were sketchy.
Obama's remarks irritated some Republicans.
Sen. John McCain of Arizona they would "clearly antagonize members of the House."
There was no response from Speaker John Boehner, who has been content to remain in the background while McConnell did the negotiating.
Some Democratic officials said that with his comments, Obama was hoping to ease the concerns of liberals in his own party who feared he had given away too much in the current round of talks over taxes.
Obama campaigned on a call for higher tax rates on income over $200,000 for individuals and $250,000 for couples, far lower than the $400,000 and $450,000 that Biden and McConnell have set.
Similarly, the pending agreement on the estate tax would allow more large estates to escape taxation than many Democrats prefer.
By late afternoon, the two sides remained separated by a stubborn dispute over spending cuts scheduled to take effect on the Pentagon and domestic programs alike.
Officials familiar with the talks said the White House has been seeking agreement to stop the cuts from taking effect, either for a period of months or a year, and wanted to count higher taxes created elsewhere in the legislation to offset the cost.
Republicans have said they are willing to delay the across-the-board cuts, but only if Obama and Democrats agree to targeted savings from government programs to take their place.
By GOD I GOT IT I FINALLY KNOW WHERE THE MONIES ARE GOING!
http://www.space.com/17568-100-year-starship-symposium-kicks-off.html
under the auspices of the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), to ponder the technology, psychology, sociology, and economics of interstellar spaceflight.
Notable attendees include actors Nichelle Nichols and LeVar Burton, who appeared on television's "Star Trek" and "Star Trek: The Next Generation," respectively; space journalist Miles O'Brien; alien-hunting astronomer Jill Tarter, a co-founder of the SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) Institute; and Johnnetta Cole, director of the Smithsonian National Museum of African Art. Former President Bill Clinton is backing the conference as its honorary chair, and the symposium chair is former astronaut Mae Jemison, the first African American woman to travel to space.
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The meeting will run from Sept. 13 through 16, and will feature scientific presentations on the propulsion and other technologies that might be needed to send a probe to another star, as well as discussions of the social ramifications of becoming an interstellar civilization, and the biological consequences for humans traveling on multi-generation starships.
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And there you have it..right were all the defense and all the trillions being sucked up into one giant black hole.
MSN REPORTING...... a deal has been reached.
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The only question that remains....... is how far down the road was the can kicked
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If there are tax increases only in this agreement, then these will be known as the new  Democrat tax increases. If there are spending cuts, then they will be known as Republican spending cuts. I'd prefer to be known for cutting government spending, than to be known for raising peoples taxes. But I'm in the minority. I work, and I pay taxes.
OKAY!! Just now heard....there's been some kind of deal reached. It's at least something. Let's not start bickering about how much we think it should be and all that...it's something. It's maybe a beginning. Isn't that what we want??? So let's hang tight and see what they're compromising on...keep hopeful!
 @fracas When? They adjourned...
He was elected president.......not king !
 @Rob C 503 Do you want to bet? You spend your day hovered over your computer, read Pravda, BBC, Canada Free Press, et al. Any paper online that is not part of U.S mainstream mediums, Sir.
So...I just heard. We've all been let down. And why? Because no one learned the art of compromise. No one. I'm so utterly disappointed in both Democrats and Republicans. I'm so ashamed of where we are. I'm almost of ashamed of being American. I'll always be one....but these people that supposedly represent us? I'm ashamed of them. We've all been slapped in the fast and sent to bed without dinner. I could cry. Happy New Year....for what?
 @fracas Where do we go to vent our frustration and disappointment?? We are just 'serfs' and have nothing to offer to Der Leader. He had this planned from the beginning and I fear dark days ahead...
@boned @fracas I'm not putting the full blame on the president. I'm thinking that the Republicans are paying us back for not electing one of their own. Could be. I just hoped that he wasn't so stubborn. I will admit to voting for him. The Republicans showed me nothing at all. I figured 4 years wasnt' nearly enough time to take care of all the garbage he inherited. Yet, this just leaves me really wondering where we're headed now :(
THIS is the leader you all just had to keep on keeping on - in our White House? Same ole arrogance. Same old status quo. Same old fiscal ineptness and indifference.Â
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And now I am set to be punished personally by him TONIGHT? Whoa, Mr. President. Wait a second, sir. Â
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What else can we expect in the coming four years? Punishing and tanking us all? Ah, Mr. Prez - how much are you set to spend on your self congratulatory PARTY in just a couple weeks - "celebrating" your retention as Lord God King of us all? Ah, Mr. President - just don't bother. Partying and self congratulating yourself about your campaign victory in my presence, sir. Just DON'T.Â
@englishdaisy So...the Republicans hold no responsibility in this at all??? You're totally wrong. Neither side is angelic English....both sides are letting us down.
 @englishdaisy As he pats himself on the back while telling America, 'What a great man am I AND it is all the Elephants fault!!' I fear some very dark days ahead in America, but Omama will rescue all of us so we can his ring...
Mr Obama, maybe you never heard this, but close only counts in horseshoes and hand-grenades.
 @poorsob Don't forget tactical nukes
 @theprodigal On the resistance...
Hickory, dickory, dock, The mouse ran up the clock. The clock struck one, The mouse ran down, Hickory, dickory, dock.
 @special effects And on the 8th day, Der Leader pronounced himself the real King...Â
But yet they go right down to the wire. Just like school kids and their homework......and they must stop to vote themselves raises and benifits ...while the American public had to tighten their belt and wait it out, Boy  this is a case of " Never have so few, done so little, and made so much, while screwing so many"Â
 @shadowwalker ~  Yeah, isn't that amazing..?   Or maybe not; this is, after all, politics... No time to work on the peoples' issues; things that will affect everyone in the country, at a time when many, many people are seriously hurting ... but LOTS of time to vote raises for themselves ..!  Guess we never need to wonder where their priorities are, do we (as if we ever did, that is...)...Â
I can hardly believe the cold-hearted, pure selfishness that pervades our so-called "leaders" in DC these days... on BOTH sides of their precious "aisle"...
 @margay1  @shadowwalker A fool never knows what he is missing and a wise man never misses what he knows and we are all screwed, but we allowed this to happen so I guess we get what what we got...
Even returning everybody to the Clinton tax rate won't solve the problem ** forgetting the debt **.
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Clinton enjoyed success for 2 very important reasons that are absent in the economy today:
    1)  The dot com bubble was generating taxable income.
    2)  We were on the front end of the 'global' trade agreements - meaning we opening trade in other markets and the other shoe - jobs (over there for local content) - hadn't fully matured.  [We were moving jobs off, they hadn't fully gone yet. I was one of many being asked to train my 'replacements' in Europe and Asia.] Â
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You can't raise the same amount of money raised in the Clinton era with this environment.
Now add the trade imbalance and debt. Â
It's not a simple revenue (tax) issue. Â
@NorthernBlackBear ... you are soooo right. No one pays attention when I bring up the same arguments...Clinton had Bill Gates to thank for the state of his economy. Then he turned around and did the NAFTA deal so we could all watch jobs sail away...remember Perot making the sucking sound? He was right...
Could we have a more incompetent group of leaders? I suppose so, but it would be hard to beat this idiots.
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They set a pretty low standard.
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Politicians in D.C., quit your name calling and finger pointing.  Do what you were hired to do. Obamas' finger pointing is in the wrong position. It should be straight up and with the middle finger because that's what he's doing to America, the big baby.
Yeah, that figures. So what does the idiot do? He gives everyone in Congress and the House a $900. raise and the American people get zilch from a do nothing leadership. Voters, band together and vote all of them out.
@Bdou ...
kinda makes one sad...grandmothers and grandfathers and future grand's have been thrown over obama's-cliff, it's his cliff, not the fiscal, not anyone else's...his cliff. I would never have dreamed in my worst nightmare we would ever have elected such a narcissistic, inept, dangerous to our way-of-life, man for president, let alone twice. Can't you feel him laughing at all of us? My-oh-my....The only good thing is that our fore-fathers and our ancestors did not live to see what has become of the country they worked so hard to build and create....
Sorry for all of you obama fans.  This whole fiasco is his fault.  How come the dumbocrats are so stupid to believe that raising taxes will fix our budget problems.  Any time you take money out of people's pockets the economy suffers.  I guess that since most of the people who voted this worthless excuse for a  president into office are deadbeats, it's no wonder he got elected.  He promised them he would take care of them in exchange for their vote.  Millions of the dummies fell for his snake oil pitch, voted him into office and now look at us.  He and his sheep are still blaming the Republicans for everything that has gone wrong since time began.  What a bunch of ignorant fools.
 @boomer You blame Obama for the whole thing and call his supporters stupid.
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Have you met Mr Pot, Mr Kettle?
 @Mikey  @boomer They are all a bunch of self centered crooks. Hellloooo. what do we do when we run out of money? We stop spending. It has never made sense to me to borrow from one country to give to another...let them borrow their own money
Obama was elected in large to his economic policy by a fairly large majority of the VOTING PUBLIC! Yet the GOP still doesn't seem motivated to listen to US. I can only hope when it comes time for US to vote in any of the next elections at any level! They have held us all hostage since the election with a "If I can't win, I won't play" attitude. Thank alot for that.
@Justmark ,,,...  "large majority?" Are you that brain-dead...obama managed a weak 50.6 %, percent, of the vote, hardly a mandate...I sure as heck do not consider that monumental and wonder how you managed to...his economic policy had nothing to do with it...it was his give-aways to the 47%...the divide and concur, pitting the hard-working people against the occupier types....etc., etc.
A fairly large majority? Don't think so - it was a closer race than that. Just because you want to live off the government teat, doesn't mean the rest of us do. The GOP is very motivated to keep the donkeys from taking all their money and just handing it over to those who fail to understand that they should be contributing members of society - not leaches.
 @wondering BS. Both parties are only interested in keeping themselves in power. Neither one of them give a rat's patootie for their constituents. Washington just likes to pretend they do so that they can get in the good graces of the corporations and the rich and powerful to provide for themselves when they get re-elected or retire.
Very nicely choreographed event Obama. You stand here, and you right here, boy, girl, boy, girl black, white, that's it, make it look real nice. What a sham. No wonder he won the election, if this kind of photo opp is all it takes to fool his voters. Obama makes Jimmy Carter look like a real leader by comparison.
 @last boyscout Booooring.
Maybe the US should stop playing World Defender and Preacher of Democracy and take better care of the folks at home instead of hitting us with tax increases and reduced benefits?
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I realize that the billions we give away in foreign aid only represents a small fraction of the overall budget but when you're bankrupt and broke every cent counts...right?
 @JohnQ.Public We have no business supporting every other government through Foreign Aid.
 @JohnQ.Public I couldn't agree more.
i enjoy the circle jerk of comments in this forum every time there's an article on obama
@diddy_bop ... I bet you think you're funny...well, enjoy yourself for the day to pay the piper is knocking on your door....
Obama looks so natural pointing a finger in denial. Obama could not lead himself out of a wet paper bag, he has ZERO leadership qualities nor does he want any. At a time when our country needs a leader working 24/7 he's standing around with his thumb up his noise pointing fingers, laying blame, accepting ZERO responsibility and accountability. Obama's crusade to "fundamentally transform America" and incinerate any opposition is on full throttle. If you think for one instant he has our country's best interests in mind you are terribly mistaken. This is his time to eradicate all he loathes and he is happier than a pig in excrement getting his chance to transform America into a third world country and allow the Iranians, Russians, and Chinese of the world to fill in where America once stood for freedom and independence. Obama and the leftists are winning, America as we knew it will be lost. Pat yourselves on the back liberals, you really are good at politics.
Shame on anyone who believed that Obama really had any intention of reducing his profligate spending in the first place. The man is without conscience and has the integrity of a sewer rat.
 @KHEB Hate to break this to you, KHEB, but NO politician has this country's best interests at heart. That is completely against anything they stand for, which is to keep their party in power regardless of what it costs the country.
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Republitards and Dumbicraps are simply two sides of the same coin. But the really sad part is so many people have learned to drink the sewage they spout and pretend it tastes like fine wine.
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I'm afraid your precious Republicans are no different than the picture you paint of the Democrats. They phrase their ideas in a different way, but it still involves taking what's yours and making themselves rich from it.
Obama's legacy will include the inability to pass a budget, and being a last minute Larry. There is no planning, no being proactive or responsible. Everything that happens in this administration requires a lot of drama, hostility and finger pointing before doing something at the last minute, in the midnight hour. Did you hear anything about spending cuts? No one has the stones to address this issue.Â
Dems blaming Repubs, Repubs blaming Dems. Â Instead of actually working together, let's make another speech about the doom and gloom and make sure everyone knows it's the other guy's fault all this doom is coming. Â If someone would just lock these 2 in a room together until they get along, maybe they'd come to an agreement. Â Just like 2 yr olds who fight over a toy.
 @380 Lady ~ At least with a couple of 2-year-olds, you have the option (as an adult) to go in there and take the toy away from them...  Too darned bad we don't have that option here with these politicians...
@margay1 ....great anology, Margay.
As Gomer was fond of saying, "Surprise! Surprise! Surprise!"