AP investigation: President Nixon wished for total handgun ban

WASHINGTON (AP) - Few presidents in modern times have been as interested in gun control as Richard Nixon, of all people. He proposed ridding the market of Saturday night specials, contemplated banning handguns altogether and refused to pander to gun owners by feigning interest in their weapons.
Several previously unreported Oval Office recordings and White House memos from the Nixon years show a conservative president who at times appeared willing to take on the National Rifle Association, a powerful gun lobby then as now, even as his aides worried about the political ramifications.
"I don't know why any individual should have a right to have a revolver in his house," Nixon said in a taped conversation with aides. "The kids usually kill themselves with it and so forth." He asked why "can't we go after handguns, period?"
Nixon went on: "I know the rifle association will be against it, the gun makers will be against it." But "people should not have handguns." He laced his comments with obscenities, as was typical.
Nixon made his remarks in the Oval Office on May 16, 1972, the day after a would-be assassin shot and paralyzed segregationist presidential candidate George Wallace. As president, Nixon never publicly called for a ban on all handguns. Instead, he urged Congress to pass more modest legislation banning Saturday night specials, which were cheaply made, easily concealed and often used by criminals.
Not all of the president's men appeared to share his passion on the issue. The recordings and memos show that Nixon administration officials saw gun control as a political loser.
Nixon, a Republican, did say publicly that if Congress passed a ban on Saturday night specials, he would sign it. But in a sign of how potent the NRA was even 40 years ago, this narrow piece of legislation never made it to his desk, and there is no sign that he ever sent a draft bill to Capitol Hill.
Today, President Barack Obama faces similar hurdles in trying to ban assault weapons and large-capacity ammunition magazines. Gun control advocates say no one needs such powerful weapons to kill an intruder or take down an animal. In Nixon's time, the argument of such advocates was that Saturday night specials were too poorly made to be relied on for self-defense or hunting.
"Let me ask you," Nixon said to Attorney General John Mitchell in June 1971, "there is only one thing you are checking on, that's the manufacture of those $20 guns? We should probably stop that." Saturday night specials sold for $10 to $30 at the time. Mitchell responded that banning those guns would be "pretty difficult, actually," because of the gun lobby.
"No hunters are going to use $20 guns," Nixon countered.
"No, but the gun lobby's against any incursion into the elimination of firearms," said Mitchell.
The term Saturday night special originated in Detroit, where police observed the frequency with which the guns were used to commit weekend mayhem. Lynyrd Skynyrd memorialized the weapon in its 1975 song, "Saturday Night Special," in which the Southern rock band sang: "Ain't good for nothin'/But put a man six feet in a hole."
Nixon's private comments were not always supportive of gun control, particularly measures that would go beyond handguns. For example, in a taped conversation just a few days after saying that people shouldn't have handguns, the president asked rhetorically, "What do they want to do, just disarm the populace? Disarm the good folks and leave the arms in the hands of criminals?"
But most of his comments on the tapes, available at the websites of the National Archives and of the University of Virginia's Miller Center, were in favor of stronger gun control.
At a June 29, 1972, news conference, about six weeks after Wallace's shooting, Nixon said he'd sign legislation banning Saturday night specials. Later that year, the Senate did pass such a bill, but the House never acted on the legislation.
The bill's sponsor, Indiana Democrat Birch Bayh, said in a recent interview that the NRA helped prevent his bill from getting through Congress. The Nixon administration supported an unsuccessful Republican alternative Senate bill on Saturday night specials that had a definition the NRA preferred.
The shooting of another politician put gun control back on the radar the following year. On Jan. 30, 1973, two robbers shot Sen. John Stennis, D-Miss., and surgeons initially thought he would die. Stennis survived and lived until 1995.
The day of the shooting, Nixon told White House special counsel Charles Colson, "At least I hope that Saturday night special legislation, at least we're supporting that, you know. We're not for gun control generally, but we are for that. God damn it that ought to be passed. Or was it passed?"
When Colson told him it hadn't, Nixon instructed his counsel, "We better damn well be for it now, huh?"
At a news conference the next day, the president repeated his call to ban Saturday night specials. He also volunteered a comment that few national politicians would make today: "Let me say, personally, I have never hunted in my life. I have no interest in guns and so forth."
By March 1973, aide John Ehrlichman was telling Nixon that gun control was a "loser issue for us."
"You've got a highly mobilized lobby," he told the president. "I think what we have to do is carve out a little piece of it, and Saturday night specials, of course, has been our tactic."
Other White House officials also argued against doing much, including Tom C. Korologos, a White House deputy assistant for legislative affairs who later was an outside lobbyist for the NRA and ambassador to Belgium under President George W. Bush.
"The thing that worries me is that the president's hard-core support comes from the gun-folk and obviously we need support these days," Korologos wrote in an Aug. 31, 1973 memo, referring to the Watergate scandal that would undo Nixon's presidency.
"Lurking in the background is the president's personal statement: 'I'm a liberal on gun control,'" Korologos said. Nixon might have made this statement privately; there is no record of him saying it publicly.
Korologos' conclusion: "I vote for a 'talk' meeting and then 'tough it out' by doing nothing and hope nobody gets shot in the next three years."
The effort to ban Saturday night specials receded in recent decades as the focus of gun control advocates shifted to rein in more powerful weapons.
Nixon's focus soon shifted, too.
In June 1972, a little over a month after his chat about banning handguns, Nixon had a recorded conversation that showed him trying to get the FBI to stop investigating the break-in at Democratic offices at the Watergate office building by burglars tied to his re-election committee.
Few remember the tapes about handguns. History forever remembers the tape that gave Nixon's Watergate pursuers their "smoking gun."
Several previously unreported Oval Office recordings and White House memos from the Nixon years show a conservative president who at times appeared willing to take on the National Rifle Association, a powerful gun lobby then as now, even as his aides worried about the political ramifications.
"I don't know why any individual should have a right to have a revolver in his house," Nixon said in a taped conversation with aides. "The kids usually kill themselves with it and so forth." He asked why "can't we go after handguns, period?"
Nixon went on: "I know the rifle association will be against it, the gun makers will be against it." But "people should not have handguns." He laced his comments with obscenities, as was typical.
Nixon made his remarks in the Oval Office on May 16, 1972, the day after a would-be assassin shot and paralyzed segregationist presidential candidate George Wallace. As president, Nixon never publicly called for a ban on all handguns. Instead, he urged Congress to pass more modest legislation banning Saturday night specials, which were cheaply made, easily concealed and often used by criminals.
Not all of the president's men appeared to share his passion on the issue. The recordings and memos show that Nixon administration officials saw gun control as a political loser.
Nixon, a Republican, did say publicly that if Congress passed a ban on Saturday night specials, he would sign it. But in a sign of how potent the NRA was even 40 years ago, this narrow piece of legislation never made it to his desk, and there is no sign that he ever sent a draft bill to Capitol Hill.
Today, President Barack Obama faces similar hurdles in trying to ban assault weapons and large-capacity ammunition magazines. Gun control advocates say no one needs such powerful weapons to kill an intruder or take down an animal. In Nixon's time, the argument of such advocates was that Saturday night specials were too poorly made to be relied on for self-defense or hunting.
"Let me ask you," Nixon said to Attorney General John Mitchell in June 1971, "there is only one thing you are checking on, that's the manufacture of those $20 guns? We should probably stop that." Saturday night specials sold for $10 to $30 at the time. Mitchell responded that banning those guns would be "pretty difficult, actually," because of the gun lobby.
"No hunters are going to use $20 guns," Nixon countered.
"No, but the gun lobby's against any incursion into the elimination of firearms," said Mitchell.
The term Saturday night special originated in Detroit, where police observed the frequency with which the guns were used to commit weekend mayhem. Lynyrd Skynyrd memorialized the weapon in its 1975 song, "Saturday Night Special," in which the Southern rock band sang: "Ain't good for nothin'/But put a man six feet in a hole."
Nixon's private comments were not always supportive of gun control, particularly measures that would go beyond handguns. For example, in a taped conversation just a few days after saying that people shouldn't have handguns, the president asked rhetorically, "What do they want to do, just disarm the populace? Disarm the good folks and leave the arms in the hands of criminals?"
But most of his comments on the tapes, available at the websites of the National Archives and of the University of Virginia's Miller Center, were in favor of stronger gun control.
At a June 29, 1972, news conference, about six weeks after Wallace's shooting, Nixon said he'd sign legislation banning Saturday night specials. Later that year, the Senate did pass such a bill, but the House never acted on the legislation.
The bill's sponsor, Indiana Democrat Birch Bayh, said in a recent interview that the NRA helped prevent his bill from getting through Congress. The Nixon administration supported an unsuccessful Republican alternative Senate bill on Saturday night specials that had a definition the NRA preferred.
The shooting of another politician put gun control back on the radar the following year. On Jan. 30, 1973, two robbers shot Sen. John Stennis, D-Miss., and surgeons initially thought he would die. Stennis survived and lived until 1995.
The day of the shooting, Nixon told White House special counsel Charles Colson, "At least I hope that Saturday night special legislation, at least we're supporting that, you know. We're not for gun control generally, but we are for that. God damn it that ought to be passed. Or was it passed?"
When Colson told him it hadn't, Nixon instructed his counsel, "We better damn well be for it now, huh?"
At a news conference the next day, the president repeated his call to ban Saturday night specials. He also volunteered a comment that few national politicians would make today: "Let me say, personally, I have never hunted in my life. I have no interest in guns and so forth."
By March 1973, aide John Ehrlichman was telling Nixon that gun control was a "loser issue for us."
"You've got a highly mobilized lobby," he told the president. "I think what we have to do is carve out a little piece of it, and Saturday night specials, of course, has been our tactic."
Other White House officials also argued against doing much, including Tom C. Korologos, a White House deputy assistant for legislative affairs who later was an outside lobbyist for the NRA and ambassador to Belgium under President George W. Bush.
"The thing that worries me is that the president's hard-core support comes from the gun-folk and obviously we need support these days," Korologos wrote in an Aug. 31, 1973 memo, referring to the Watergate scandal that would undo Nixon's presidency.
"Lurking in the background is the president's personal statement: 'I'm a liberal on gun control,'" Korologos said. Nixon might have made this statement privately; there is no record of him saying it publicly.
Korologos' conclusion: "I vote for a 'talk' meeting and then 'tough it out' by doing nothing and hope nobody gets shot in the next three years."
The effort to ban Saturday night specials receded in recent decades as the focus of gun control advocates shifted to rein in more powerful weapons.
Nixon's focus soon shifted, too.
In June 1972, a little over a month after his chat about banning handguns, Nixon had a recorded conversation that showed him trying to get the FBI to stop investigating the break-in at Democratic offices at the Watergate office building by burglars tied to his re-election committee.
Few remember the tapes about handguns. History forever remembers the tape that gave Nixon's Watergate pursuers their "smoking gun."
 Just wait for the "Tricky Dicky" news coming this week from way back in 1968. Nixons back door negotiations with North Viet-Nam when he was canidate Nixon. He should be dug up and shot for treason. He extended the war at least 5 more years.
LOL! Yeah, right.
"I am not a crook!" -- Richard Nixon, disgraced former U.S. President.
If you think the second amendment is absolute, then you also have to think that it's OK for felons to own guns. And for the mentally ill to have universal access to guns. Good Luck with that.
Universal background checks are only a problem if you have something to hide. As for the paranoia about "registration", even Sean Hannity called it the Lie that it is (and is catching a lot of flak over it).
If you have a problem with magazine limits, then you have to oppose Hunting regulations that limit magazine capacity. Again, good luck with that,.
@ShallowEnder Hitler did the registration thing, and then he came for all the guns. If you've bought into the lie that it's just a background check, like a credit check, and then somehow magically the Feds dump all that information you'll be sorely mistake. Ask any database programmer, you never let information go to waste.
@axpman
Each month my boss tells me I must delete about 1.5 Gigs of information from out database (I have a script I have on a job each week).Â
When I see it run I cringe. As a scientist it hurts to see data just go away, but as a public servant if the data is available, I must make it available and if I have 4 years I must keep EVERYTHING for 4 years, and data piles up quick (like I said a gig a month).Â
But if I had say; the Pentagons kind of money, well storage is cheap. I bet I could just keep buying storage and keep storing every piece of data I get. No one can ask me for it (because I am the Pentagon they apparently can ignore FIA requests like I ignore people panhandling on freeways) so why not?
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@TheUglyTruth Not to mention the Mark and Gabby Gifford's anti gun tour wanting to take away semi-automatic weapons and assault rifles using her shooting to build sympathy for their cause.
 I've only heard a very few limited media outlets post fact that Mark Gifford's was caught buying an assault rifle and high-capacity magazines this week.
 After getting busted and outed in some the newspapers he claimed he bought it and was going to turn it over to the police.
You really have to love the hypocrisy of much of the left, all of the media, and all of the politicians.
I guess he just really wanted to make sure he had his assault rifle and high-capacity magazines before he ensured you couldn't get yours...
This will make 100 comments.
Wish in one hand...
Nixon was a loser, an embarrassment so you don't get the Nixon pass on your argument to take our guns, try again.....
I love cheap guns, I own 2 of them. A little .22 pistol, and an AB-10 (tech-9 minus the deadly heat shield) They're just fun, I don't have to worry about them getting messed up.
@Jeepers Ya used to be there but dumped all my older less expensive ones and went for high quality. By dumped I mean sold to an FFL dealer not to general public with no back ground checks. Unlike the most of the left I am not a hypocrite about gun rights and usage and even though I got 20-30% less for my guns I know they were not going to felons or criminals via me...
I don't care if JFK rises from the grave to hand deliver an epistle from the founding fathers flanked by angels.
I. Will. Not. Be. Disarmed.
"No hunters are going to use $20 guns," Nixon countered."
Politicians don't get it. The 2nd amendment has nothing to do about hunting. It's all about preventing government tyranny and government abuse of the citizens.
Seems like this is just more propaganda to make the democrats seem less gun ban happy.
@axpman Yep and I bet KATU won't be posting any news articles about Mark Gifford's getting caught buying an assault rifle and high-capacity magazines this week after just finishing his anti-gun to her with his wife Gabby wanting to take away people's rights to get semiautomatic weapons...
@FreedomRocks Gotta keep the propaganda flowing. Apparently K2 wouldn't want to alienate the system by posting real information, they might lose their license to repost AP articles and other such trash.Â
@axpman Or make us forget about Benghazi.
@TreeWizard @axpman Let me help you out there...
LOOK Shinny penny shinny penny...
Gee that was easy...
Is it just me or does it seem that there is a direct correlation between a politician's level of corruption and their zeal to control the populace - er, I mean guns? (for the children, of course) Coincidence?
@Conspirator It's just you. Usually you can't smell your self, but if you can, it means you really need a shower.
@Conspirator It's not you. I've often thought the same thing.
Elvis gave Nixon a .45 pistol. Elvis had a better eye for firearms than home decorating. LOL
I can't see Obama accepting an AR-15 from Ted Nugent.
@The Resistance 45ACP!! Because no matter how you slice it, 9mm is for wimps!
I can only hope that Obummer resigns like Nixon did.
@The Resistance He should be OK he didn't do half what bush did so....
@yesiam @The Resistance That will probably sum up his presidency. As long as Obama doesn't do anything we will all be ok.
I more thing I am grateful for, 1973 rescinding my orders, ending draft, handgun ban, thank you sir, had already done funerals at forest lawn for year 68-69 knew what lay ahead at the end, Nixon far less a crook than what passes today, he did get EPA going and started park funding after lapse, anyways, thanks for missing that final tour sir.
President Obama is more like President Nixon in many ways.
@Saltire How so? Lower gas prices, we exported more to china than imported, they were both half white , oh ya they both had daughters. It was funny when grace slick laced one of his daughters drink with LSD.
@Bert @Saltire They both have equally transparent administrations. They both are pretty thin-skinned to criticism. They both really don't like anyone who has a position that is contrary to the one the espouse.
@Bert @Saltire Lower gas prices? Where? They are absolutely record high prices. Certain much higher than when he took office.
Richard "I am not a crook" Nixon was also extremely paranoid. This paranoia led to Watergate, the cover-up, and ultimately his resignation in disgrace. I wonder whatever happened to his sidekick, Spiro T. Agnew?
@theobserver Clinton did not recognize Monica Lewinsky until he saw a picture of the top of her head while under oath
And just look what happened to this fine President a month later. Obama & Nixon could have been real good friends I think. Both are / were screwed up in their thinking.
@TimBurr You are wrong. Nixon put the country first.
That Nixon. He was wise. And also hypocritical and full of excrement and generally remembered for his crookedness and disgrace. Nixon, Feinstein and Ginny Burdick sure have a lot in common.
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@Welfair Chick @Playanekes I'm trying to imagine what Sam Adams and Richard Nixon have in common besides gun control.Â
Arlo Guthrie pointed out that it's not what was on the tapes that got Nixon in trouble, but what had been erased. And what had been erased is almost exactly in length as the song Alice's Restaurant.
@Playanekes @Welfair Chick So now I'm picturing Tricky Dick sitting in the Oval Office smoking a bowl listening to the gentle strains of "...you can get anything you want at Alice's Restaurant".  I couldn't stand him and I liked Cloth-Coat Pat even less. Â
Interesting. When Elvis met with Nixon in December 1970 (to ask for a Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs badge), he brought a Colt .45 pistol mounted in a display case, as a gift for the President. The Secret Service confiscated the gun before Elvis entered the Oval Office, however. I think Presley would have been shocked to learn how Nixon really felt about individuals owning handguns.
@felines99 When Bobby Kennedy was in Portland his secret service told the deputies to back off because Senator Kennedy didn't like to be seen with a big police presence. When the citizens of Portland mobbed the limousine the sheriff told the secret service that the deputies had obliged and that the situation was in secret service hands. The secret service did a great job protecting Senator Kennedy.
@Playanekes @felines99 He lost to McCarthy, but he was loved here, lost primary but scooped california and would have changed much of what we know, and argue today.
@Playanekes @felines99  Until 5 June 1968 . . . .
@Sundowner @felines99 @Playanekes If you are referencing RFK's assassination, if you don't know now, you probably never will. For myself, I don't believe in the conspiracy theories.
@felines99 @Playanekes Actually his story is pretty incredible.  It's been almost 45 years and I still don't feel like I know exactly what happened and certainly don't know why.
@Playanekes @felines99 And his daddy was a bootlegger and mobbed up
That God Damned RINO Richard Nixon...bwaahhhaaahahaaa
Who cares what a dead President thinks...
Oh Wait the Constitution was made by dead presidents..
@yesiam And was is Nixon's legacy, as opposed to Jefferson's or Hamilton's?
@yesiam  Dead presidents don't "think", they thought. I do care what they thought at the time they were founding our nation.
@Scotty9 You do know that they all disagreed and fought amongst themselves yes? Then they changed their minds, like TJ. Plus we've done all the things Washy told us never to do.
@Harry Merkin @Scotty9 Could it have been any other way?
@yesiam That's right and it still the law of the land, although many, including our supposed Commander in Chief, fail to realize this on a daily basis.