Burdick says she canceled town hall after threats
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SALEM, Ore. - State Sen. Ginny Burdick, D-Portland, says she's creeped out by the video posted on YouTube of her doing chores around her home.
The anonymous poster wrote that Burdick lied about why she canceled a town hall on gun control at Portland State University.
KATU News asked Burdick Wednesday why she said there was a scheduling conflict when the video shows she stayed at home.
She said her office has been getting thousands of threatening and hostile emails about antigun bills.
She sent KATU News a few examples. One talked about lynching, another mentioned Hitler and Stalin. Burdick says it would have been foolish to hold a town hall in that kind of environment on a college campus.
"I've had town halls crashed by the extremist gun lobbyists before," she said. "They do not make life pleasant when they do that. They're disruptive and rude, and I didn't want to subject the students at Portland State to that kind of behavior."
She said there will be other town hall meetings scheduled.
Burdick called the police after she saw the YouTube video.
Tell me, Ginny, was it intimidation, and did it creep you out when you called Timothy Dunn's supervisors at ODOT to check on his payroll status for that day after you saw him at a pro-gun rally? Â Tell me, Ginny, was it intimidation for you and the Oregonian to support publishing the names and addresses of concealed handgun license holders? Â When maps of the homes of people with CHLs were published in New York it led to crime against those people. Â What is the point of such disclosure, if not intimidation, Ginny?
You've demonstrated that you're a coward and a creep yourself.
Ms. Burdick and all victims of right wing Brownshirt intimidation need to arrange police protection at her Town Halls and also contract heavily armed private security to protect the integrity of our institutions of democracy. Â I am outraged by elected officials who run for the hills the minute the American Brownshirt Scum show up and act up.
These lowlife Brownshirt Scum need to get as good....no, BETTER, than they give !!!
@jaydiamond :  "Lowlife Brownshirt Scum"?  Apparently you didn't attend the meeting that Ginny skipped out on and lied about.  All I saw were reasonable, well spoken people that were angry that a state legislator lied to them and wasted the valuable time and money they sacrificed in order to try to have a dialog with her.
And BTW, I'd be happy to debate you anytime, anywhere if you think perhaps you can control your temper and be somewhat civil.
Ginny Burdick started intimidating Citizens a long time ago, get it straight Katu:Â http://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/XcIBViewItem.asp?ID=2075
haha this lady is ridiculous.  she got caught in a lie and is now trying to blame others for her ineptitude. This is what happens when you try to push an unconstitutional ban that the people will not stand for.  She will probably run and hide behind the occupy Portland folk.Â
http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/health/2013/03/06/more-gun-laws-fewer-deaths-state-study-says/tbIJvM0CRjBzqsHQK8XOlM/story.html
Not a shining example to set when gun advocates need some positive suggestions on solving the murder crisis in this country. Makes all gun owners sound like total freaks with those kind of threats (besides being so 1860's ignorant) and we know they aren't. Then again, after reading the many comments "planted" on here ... I'm not so sure. The NRA is claiming they have membership up to now nearly 7% of the population but considering the total population of our country that is microscopic. Instead of making threats to politician's how about taking the high road and providing solutions that are realistic. The general populous will stand behind it, if it's reasonable.
In the 14 years I have been watching the state legislature, NOT freaking once has she proposed anything to protect those that under the laws of Oregon can't protect themselves; our children! If you oppose her this is what you get: http://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/XcIBViewItem.asp?ID=2075
Odd they never have any problem with events that bring foaming mouth liberals to the events.Â
She is the biggest threat.
"I've had town halls crashed by the extremist gun lobbyists before," she said. "They do not make life pleasant when they do that. They're disruptive and rude, and I didn't want to subject the students at Portland State to that kind of behavior."
We all know that it's only the extreme gun lobbyists that do that. It's never the anti-war people, the occupy people, the tea party people, etc etc. It certainly never involves college-aged people either. (That last one was sarcasm, for those with a reading comprehension disorder.)
Another shining example of Salem being a waste of money.
Could Ms Burdick herself have made, or had made, the recent video of her tending to her trash to try and increase public support of her position against guns? Where is real investigative journalism in our day and age instead of the knee jerk reporting that passes for news these days?
What the article doesn't tell you is that in lieu of the Burdick town hall, gun rights supporters showed up and put on their own presentation. Miraculously, no one was slaughtered in the process. Why isn't KATU mentioning that?
@William Saunderson It makes me say, "Hmmmmmmm"
Could it be that law-abiding citizens resent those trying to strip them of their constitutional rights?
Could it be that they see one only being group targeted? After all, Ms. Burdick hasn't proposed requiring insurance policies that pay out a mandatory $100,000 to ANYONE suffering ANY injury in ANY automobile accident. Nor has she proposed a $10,000 fine for each vehicle not insured - even though gun deaths (and in particular any kind of rifle deaths) are miniscule in comparison to automobile deaths. What about huge mandatory payouts for ANY kind of injury caused by the medical industry. They cause many times the deaths of automobiles.
Could it be that the populace is much smarter than for what she gives them credit? Perhaps intelligent people realize you don't increase safety one iota by making "gun-free" zones while realistically only expecting the good-guys to disarm. In fact, the opposite has proven true time and time again.
Could it be that upright citizens understand their constitutional rights against warrant-less searches, property confiscation without due-process and the meaning of "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"?
Funny how the article doesn't mention the email context of such ominous figures as "Hitler" and "Stalin". Could it be that intelligent citizens see through the ruse and that people DO learn from history? Let me add a few less-threatening names to the mix - Castro, Zedong, Pol Pot, Amin, the Ottoman Empire, the Akuza, Guatemala, Zimbabwe, et al. All had free reign to achieve their atrocities once the populace was disarmed. To be fair, many of these gun-control schemes started out as well-intentioned by sincere people before the named despots took over. The outcome, nevertheless, was the same.
I'm sure those citizens also discounted the cries of the "gun nut" naysayers - until it was too late. It's just that now, we have history to teach us the catastrophe of allowing politicians complete power. Politicians and government SHOULD fear an armed populace. Those that are for freedom of the people embrace it. Those that are not, seek to disarm them. Â
âThis year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!â
· Adolph Hitler (1889-1945), April 15, 1935
@Conspirator wow....talk about extremists...
@Conspirator "Could it be that law-abiding citizens resent those trying to strip them of their constitutional rights?"
No. Obviously, this has to do with Republicans, racism, extremism and people who can't accept the reality that it's Ginny's generations America now, and they get to do what they want, and if you don't like it, they'll stay home and do it anyway.
Being easy on sex offenders and criminals don't creep her out - but someone videoing her does? What a moron.
How does it feel to be a "victim"? In future you might consider the "victims" of crime before you propose going easy on criminals
She sent KATU News a few examples. One talked about lynching, another mentioned Hitler and Stalin. Burdick says it would have been foolish to hold a town hall in that kind of environment on a college campus.
The emails that REALLY scared her, probably were the ones saying "I will NOT vote for you again"
@disgustedman That, or the ones saying "I will not donate to your re-election campaign again."
@disgustedman Did she receive any of those "I will NOT vote for you again" emails, or did those have the lynching junk laced throughout?  I'm no politician, but I wouldn't have gone through with the meeting either in light of the threats.  If we learn from history........
@Sundowner @disgustedman Alleged threats.
If she reported them to the police, they might be legitimate threats. My guess is, her dog ate them.
I sent her a letter explaining that I understand her love for law but she can't make more criminals out of law-abiding citizens and attempt to solve anything. I didn't call her names, I didn't threaten to do anything except tell people not to vote for her.
So, yes. She got some of those. She doesn't answer them, though. I guess if you want to get her attention you have to use stronger words. Okay then.
Whoever scared her out of opening her hate-filled dishonest mouth in public, thank you. Heh Heh Heh.
Ginny plays the wounded politician very well. However she is just as bad:Â http://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/XcIBViewItem.asp?ID=2075
@Timothy Dunn Fascinating, but not at all surprising.
I wonder how many of those who loudly proclaim their "Right to bear arms", have read the Federalist paper # 29. Written by Alexander Hamilton expressing the deeper meaning of the phrase, "The right to bear arms". Please note the careful thought and purpose of the sentence, "Being  part of a well regulated militia". If you consider yourself a defender of the constitution perhaps you should spend time reading it, and considering the context thereof.
@Brian SkinnerThat's a mighty long finger you're wagging, there, preacher.
That argument is 200 years old. Stop assuming that people who study the Constitution (capital C, please) haven't had this discussion already. You're being sophomoric. So have some Jefferson:
"And what country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it's natural manure."Â Â -Thomas Jefferson
@Playanekes @Brian Skinner Interesting you missed this section:
"If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government, and which against the usurpations of the national rulers, may be exerted with infinitely better prospect of success than against those of the rulers of an individual state. In a single state, if the persons intrusted with supreme power become usurpers, the different parcels, subdivisions, or districts of which it consists, having no distinct government in each, can take no regular measures for defense. The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system, without resource; except in their courage and despair. The usurpers, clothed with the forms of legal authority, can too often crush the opposition in embryo. The smaller the extent of the territory, the more difficult will it be for the people to form a regular or systematic plan of opposition, and the more easy will it be to defeat their early efforts. Intelligence can be more speedily obtained of their preparations and movements, and the military force in the possession of the usurpers can be more rapidly directed against the part where the opposition has begun. In this situation there must be a peculiar coincidence of circumstances to insure success to the popular resistance."
@Playanekes @NotAChance @Brian Skinner That, was directed at Brian Skinner, not you.
And was directly from the Federalist paper #29.
@wvboy And I bet there isn't a judge alive who's going to go door to door telling people to hand over their guns. Nor is Ginny Burdick.Â
Not going to happen. What's more likely to happen in that case is that some beloved colonel or general--they exist--will cross the Rubicon, so to speak, and then SCOTUS and DC will discover what's what.
@NotAChance @Playanekes @Brian Skinner I didn't "miss" it, I just didn't quote it. The Tree of Liberty letter is interesting because he talks about how the imperialist press (a la Piers Morgan) is lying to the people about anarchy, but that the anarchy doesn't actually exist except a rebellion that he predicts will only happen once every 150 years.
Which is chilling, because this spring is the 150th anniversary of the campaign that ended at Gettysburg.
You can quote til the cows come home. Hamilton was a modern day Progressive Democrat for the most part and jefferson was a modern day States rights Southern Conservative Republican. Much as has been done with the bible. It can be interprited many ways and everyone says thiers is the right way. That is why we have a SCOTUS - and even they disagree most times as many decisions are not unanimous.
Now she wants to make the left lane illegal to drive in except for passing. As if traffic isn't already screwed up around here. Quit trying to control every aspect of our lives!
@Beergod A lot of states have that law already in place, it's kind of common sense, especially since I see slow drivers in the left lane all the time.
There is a good example of a politician who is completely out of touch with the people. She is the embodiment of much of what is wrong with this society; an ignorant, opinionated sheep who believes she has the right to interfere in other people's lives. She'll be donning that ridiculous smile as she attempts to take away our rights.
@James Gnau Kinda like Gabby Giffords, right? Â
@Sundowner @James Gnau No she did not do the town hall because she knew she would be overwhelmed with opposition...not because she was afraid for her life or safety.
@FreedomRocks I'll readily admit I called your comment(s) stupid as payback.  Never claimed to be totally immune to getting a bit bitchy when I get called names.  Not all liberals are hypocrites, nor are all conservatives hypocrites.
@Dr. Rawdog @FreedomRocks @Sundowner Ya that is better but my comment was never intended to be an informed comment it was simply my personal belief...
@Sundowner @FreedomRocks You are really proving my point about liberals being hypocrites. I know I made a comment where I called you stupid in another article today and you proceeded to tell me how that caused you to lose all respect for me. I responded with an apology and now you come back and do the exact same thing to me.
Then you wonder why I think all liberals are hypocrites and/or liers?
Either calling other peoples comments stupid is inappropriate and causes you to all to lose respect or maybe just don't deserve respect with your comments and your pointing that out by calling me stupid?
@FreedomRocks Well THAT'S a stupid comment.  Do you know her personally and she told you this?  Otherwise, you're back to blowing smoke....
@Sundowner @James Gnau Nothing like Gabby Giffords.Â
Why are you all ignoring the FACT that she seeks to make criminals out of law-abiding citizens, and that anytime you do that, you're absolutely certain to have them call you out on it at places like "Town Halls."
Obviously, she wanted a "town hall" with only one side of the debate there.
The Gabby Gifford shooting shows that attending such a meeting along with overly emotional but not insane gun owners there could be a true nutcase. Would any possible developments coming out of the canceled meeting justify the possibility of exposing the students at Portland State University to a nut case with a full clip and a bag full of bullets? Grow up Civ and join the adults living in the real world.
@John Dohh "Grow up %s and join the adults living in the real world."
Maybe you're not paying attention. You can talk to people like that on the internet, if you don't mind hiding in your condo. Burdick is where she belongs: at home doing chores. Haw haw.
See how easy it is to do that? What are you gonna do, hurl more insults?Â
@Playanekes "You can talk to people like that on the internet, if you don't mind hiding in your condo."
Tough guy speaketh with his keyboard again. Â You gonna start thumping your chest again telling us how tough you are Plyenekes. Â Funny you need so many guns.
@NotAChance @trololol @Playanekes @Dr. Rawdog There's medication you can take to stay awake.  Also to stave off those annoying symptoms of paranoia.  Good luck, bro.
@Dr. Rawdog @Playanekes You know Dr. Rawdog , the definition of coward  is on line.  Here is one :
cow·ard  [kou-erd]  noun  1.a person who lacks courage in facing danger, difficulty,opposition, pain, etc.; a timid or easily intimidated person.
Based on those definintion,fear of an inanimate object , that needs human intervention , is a true definition of coward.Â
@trololol @Playanekes What guns? Tell everybody you're not making THAT up, baby boy.
I collect black powder muskets. What are you going to accuse me of now?Â
HEY, GUESS WHAT, CHIMP: TOUGH GUYS SPEAKING WITH THEIR KEYBOARDS KEPT GINNY HOME WHERE SHE BELONGS. Ha Ha!!
@trololol @Playanekes Yawn. And then yawned again.
@John Dohh I do live in the real world, The world where 99.9 % of gun owners are law biding citzens.  You saying otherwise is just like me saying all liberal sheeple are socialists that want everything handed to them .  The same nutcase you speak of could have drove a car through the crowd, shown up in a suicide vest, or threw a molatov cocktail into the crowd. Blamoing the nutcases action on the firearm is using the firearm as the scapegoat, not holding the user of the tool responsable. But what do you expect from a bunch of liberal sheeple???
In any case , Buridick is a coward that by the way carries a has a CHL Â concealed handgun herself and owns firearms. Talk about a hypocrite!!!!
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@Dr. Rawdog @Civ @Playanekes Sorry , I forgot to put the word NOT in there. Here is the correct  post you liberal POS : go back to North Korea or whatever communist or socialist country you spawned from. We will NOT surrender to the likes of you or any orther sheeple that intends on pissing on our Constitution  or our flag.Â
@Dr. Rawdog @PlayanekesDr. Rawdog, go back to North Korea or whatever communist or socialist country you spawned from. We will surrender to the likes of you or any orther sheeple that intends on pissing on our Constitution  or our flag.Â
@Sundowner @Playanekes Where were the "gun zealots"?
Hmm. The alleged gun zealots. The same ones that terrorized the Million Mom March, who shot up the pro-2nd Amendment rally, who walked around town with AR-15s and didn't get arrested by the police for it even when liberals demanded it...clue... Â
Besides, if liberals want to claim that they're too afraid to go out in public because of alleged threats nobody seems to have actually reported, well, what's the problem?
Maybe if she doesn't want death threats, she shouldn't make enemies by attempting to make criminals out of law-abiding citizens.Â
@Dr. Rawdog@Playanekes "Try to follow along,"
Lick my bootheel, hippie.
@Dr. Rawdog @Civ @FreedomRocks I did not retract a damn thing. My statement still stands.  The only rumors i can  see is that guns jump off the table and shoot by themselves, just like cars hit people and belts hit kids on their own .
@Dr. Rawdog @FreedomRocks Wow , the internet is truthful and accurate.  I suppose that if it is not on the internet that it is not true...... believe what you want , I really don't care.  In any case , she comes from a family that has firearms:Â
http://victoriataftkpam.blogspot.com/2013/01/video-gun-grabber-ginny-burdick-gun.html
@Playanekes I never said I was on "her team" about HB3200.  Know what?  I wouldn't have shown up at the Town Hall meeting if I'd received threats either.  There's nothing stupid about that, as the entire Gabby Giffords shooting shows.  I'm NOT talking about actual 'law-abiding citizens', I'm talking about gun zealots and we both know there's a difference.  If people like you, who I assume to be a responsible gun owner who enjoys your rights to own weapons, would stand up and shout down the crazies that are out there, much of this entire national debate would quiet down to a level where something might be accomplished.
@Sundowner @FreedomRocks @Dr. Rawdog All of this carefully dodges the point that she is trying to make felons out of people who don't give her what she wants, which is irrefutable thanks to HB3200 which proves it.
No liberal is holding her accountable for attempting to make criminals out of law-abiding peaceful citizens and in so doing, making enemies out of those citizens.
So get used to it. She has chosen to make criminals, and thus enemies, and you've chosen to be on her team. It's not going to get any prettier or more civil.
@FreedomRocks @Dr. Rawdog  Gotta love it -- "I think there is old tape...."  And I think monkeys are going to fly out of your lower rear orifice.  Which one of us is right?  I can't prove mine and I'd bet my best friend's money you can't prove yours, either. Â
@Dr. Rawdog I think there is old tape of her admitting that I have heard before...