Clinton joins other Dems in backing gay marriage

WASHINGTON (AP) - Hillary Rodham Clinton's embrace of gay marriage Monday signals she may be seriously weighing a 2016 presidential run and trying to avoid the type of late-to-the-party caution that hurt her first bid.
Her chief Democratic rivals endorsed same-sex marriage as much as seven years ago, and it's widely popular with Democratic and independent voters.
By supporting gay marriage a full two years before the next presidential primary warms up, Clinton may render the issue largely settled among Democrats, should she decide to run.
But things could be vastly different in the November 2016 general election, regardless who wins the Democratic nomination. That nominee is virtually certain to support same-sex marriage, whereas there's a strong possibility the Republican nominee will not.
That could be a problem for the GOP nominee if same-sex marriage becomes a prominent issue. A poll released Monday shows a dramatic shift in attitudes about legalizing gay marriage, with 58 percent of Americans now supporting it.
Three years ago, the figure was 47 percent, the ABC News/Washington Post poll reported.
Partisan breakdowns show why it's virtually essential for a Democratic presidential hopeful to support same-sex marriage, and why it's difficult for GOP contenders to do the same.
Seventy-two percent of Democrats, 62 percent of independents and 34 percent of Republicans support same-sex marriage, the ABC-Post poll found. Unless Republicans' opinions change significantly in the next two years, a GOP presidential hopeful may struggle to win the nomination without opposing gay marriage, even if the position causes problems in the November general election.
For those who lived "through the long years of the civil rights and women's rights movements, the speed with which more and more people have come to embrace the dignity and equality of LGBT Americans has been breathtaking and inspiring," Clinton said in a six-minute video, referring to lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender persons.
In the video, released by the gay rights advocacy group Human Rights Campaign, Clinton says gays and lesbians are "full and equal citizens and deserve the rights of citizenship."
"That includes marriage," she says, adding that she backs gay marriage both "personally and as a matter of policy and law."
Clinton recently stepped down as secretary of State, freeing her to talk more openly about U.S. domestic political matters. Some Democratic activists cautioned that her Monday statement isn't a sure sign she plans to run for the office that her husband, Bill, won two decades ago.
"I have no idea whether she is going to run or not," said veteran strategist Jim Manley. "All I know is that she was going to have to make this move quickly after stepping down as secretary of State if she was even going to think about it."
Other potential Democratic candidates got there earlier. New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo announced his support for same-sex marriage in 2006, and then made a major push in 2011 to enact it into state law. In part by promising political help to Republican legislators whose votes he needed, Cuomo claimed a major victory only two years after the same legislature had refused to legalize gay marriage.
Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley, also eyeing a presidential bid, followed suit. After giving only partial support to a gay marriage proposal in 2011, he made it a priority in 2012, and won passage in the Democratic-dominated legislature. O'Malley, pursuing an ambitiously liberal agenda, also led the recent decision to rescind Maryland's death penalty.
Vice President Joe Biden is credited -- or blamed -- for nudging President Barack Obama to announce his support for same-sex marriage last May when Biden endorsed the idea in a televised interview.
Same-sex marriage is now legal in nine states and the District of Columbia. Civil unions are legal in eight more states, with Colorado on the verge of joining. Many other states have outlawed gay marriage.
Americans' attitudes, especially among Democrats, have tipped the balance on gay marriage in the space of one presidency. Obama, Clinton, Biden and other Democratic presidential candidates opposed legalizing same-sex marriage in 2008, although they endorsed versions of civil unions.
Clinton's bigger problem that year involved a different issue: opposition to the Iraq war, which had become deeply unpopular with Democratic voters by 2007. Clinton defended her 2002 Senate vote authorizing an invasion of Iraq. Obama, as an Illinois state legislator, had condemned the war from the start. By lagging behind Obama on this key issue as the 2008 primaries approached, Clinton lost valuable ground to the lesser-known lawmaker from Illinois.
With major Democratic politicians now taking a similar stand on gay marriage, the issue seems unlikely to play the type of role in 2016 that the Iraq war played in 2008.
President Bill Clinton signed the Defense of Marriage Act in 1996. DOMA requires the federal government to refuse to recognize same-sex marriages. It also allows states to do the same when dealing with gay or lesbian couples married in other states.
In 2000, Hillary Clinton was typical of prominent Democrats in saying marriage "has a historic, religious and moral context that goes back to the beginning of time. And I think a marriage has always been between a man and a woman."
Bill Clinton recently wrote an op-ed saying it's time to overturn DOMA. The Supreme Court will hear a challenge to the law this month.
As support for gay marriage becomes the mainstream position among Democrats, the issue is increasingly divisive among Republicans. Sen. Rob Portman of Ohio last week became the only Republican senator to support legalizing same-sex marriage. He did so after learning that one of his adult sons is gay.
Dozens of prominent Republicans have urged the Supreme Court to overturn DOMA. But many GOP-controlled states have asked the court to uphold the law.
Copyright 2013 The Associated Press.
Surprise, surprise, former secretary of deceit and corruption backs morally corrupt society ideals.....Almost makes me want to laugh, or cry......
Time for Monica to write her book
Wonder why she waited to make that announcement until after she stepped down.......
She could not remember any thing about Benghazi, but has her own opinions on gay marriage. She is such a deceitful untrustworthy individual. Why would anyone care what her opinion is or have any trust in anything that she says?
A vision after her immaculate concussion
It was about time for Hillary to come clean in the gay marriage issues, she will be our President and when people talk about freedom it should be for everybody. I believe that is no goverment business to get on the way for those that want to marry and are of the same sex.There are some people out there that want to attack those that chose their way of life and at the same time there are gays everywhere and probably in every family. Nobody should hide behind religion to oppress other people, in a free society everbody should have the same rights and participate in our society no matter wha you do with your private life!
Who could have imagined a politician whose opinions shift whichever way public perception runs? People really need to google the name Jeffery Zeifman before they even consider whether she would be a good presidential candidate. Then again, the American public, by and large, is filled with morons who love being led around by the nose and told for whom to vote.
@stephcra Then again, the American public, by and large, is filled with morons who love being led around by the nose and told for whom to vote.???
So the republicans.???
Like rick santorum said" we republicans will never get the smart people to vote for us""
Glad I could help you out with that. Thanks for stopping by...
Maybe weighing a presidential bid???It's a fore gone conclusion. And she will pander to every and any group to get their vote.Poor crazy Joe Biden. What will become of our resident lunatic ?
@Rob C 503Â Hey -- be nice. Â Our resident lunatic had a heart transplant and is laying very low. Â It's too bad Sarah Palin isn't a nurse -- she could have signed on to be one of his caregivers and we'd never hear from either of them again. Â
@Sundowner @Rob C 503 I like Sarah Palin.
Marriage is between a man & a woman. Â Anything else is a fraud and a lie.
Quick, legalize gay marriage so she doesn't have a chance to run!
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@Molly Head And we will call the ticket dumb and dumber OK...
@yesiam @Molly Head Na, they won the last election
how much did the gay mafia pay her off?
I like Hilary, but seriously, is this what we've become? A nation that chooses their president based on their sexual views (sincere or crafted)? Really? I'm really pissed at her for bringing it up. Can we never take a rest from the subject? Just let people marry who they want. There's nothing left to protect or defend. Hasn't been for eons, if ever. The 'sanctity" marriage was destroyed long ago. Adultery. Abuse. Divorce. So what's it matter? Marriage is what You make of it. You and your spouse. Whoever that may be. If people would regain focus on their own relationships instead of being obsessed with others, we'd be better off.
@Lips How far is the leap from political marriage to gay marriage.
@Lips I see what you're saying. I think it will stop being a focus once gay rights become federally protected. Then you wont see messages like this. Kind of like how we don't see people clamoring on about women's or black rights anymore. Once a group is elevated to equal status, the hooplah dies down and it's on to the next thing.
@Morticae @Lips Or the spotted owl
@Morticae @Lips Pretty sure I've seen Al Sharpton clamor a few times. lol. Can't wait to see what the ''next thing'' will be. Hope it's interesting.
Many Politicians today will sell their soul to the Devil.....for votes......they did it in Christ day and they are doing it in our day and Hillary is another example . ......A little late jumping on that band wagon Hillary. Please go quietly into retirement. You and your old man have done enough damage!
@shadowwalker Yea who needs a balanced budget bush fixed that right.???
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@feral aren't you a zoophile?
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@feral @TreeWizard True.
Why am I not surprised? The Republicans better learn how to pander to the masses or they will lose again.
The way things seem to go now days, I see her getting elected. I shudder to think what damage she would do to this country.Â
12 to 16 years of Democrats and the we will be the United Socialist States of America.
@The Resistance Si
Her bumper sticker is already on my car. She's running in 2016.
@WendyTeagarden .....why are you damaging your car?
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@feral @WendyTeagarden Everyone knows the CIA and the NSA collaborate in selection of future Presidents and VPs.
Riley Martin.
William Shatner..  LOL!
@feral @TreeWizard @WendyTeagarden I bet Mel Gibson does.
@feral @TreeWizard @WendyTeagarden Lets take the syndicate on.
@feral @TreeWizard @WendyTeagarden I can get behind that. Don't the banks and CIA and NSA work together?
@WendyTeagarden It's going to suck for you when she loses.
@TreeWizard I can handle a loss; How about you????????
@Lips @TreeWizard @badcat Thanks. GuNight.
@TreeWizard @Lips @badcat Cause orgy pits are the worst. Worse than gym pits. Just looking out for ya.
Night.
@Lips @TreeWizard @badcat Why will that help? Follow up question, why do I need Arrid Extra dry?
@TreeWizard @Lips @badcat Ick. Pack some Arid Extra Dry.
@Lips @TreeWizard @badcat Wtf is a hermaphrodited flowers? is that like some kind of new sex venture, like an orgy pit?
@TreeWizard@Lips@badcatDon't be ridiculous. I seriously doubt you're bearing hermaphrodited flowers.Â
@Lips @TreeWizard @badcat I don't understand? What is "Dear Lips"? Hey am a polygamist.
@TreeWizard @Lips @badcat Please, you're so full of it. What do you think this is, Dear Lips?
@Lips @TreeWizard @badcat I just want a friend, and I was hoping you would share some fritters. =(
@TreeWizard @Lips @badcat No. It was a bold faced lie. You know it. But you liked it anyway. What's wrong with you?
@Lips @TreeWizard @badcat You make apple fritters at 12 at night?
@TreeWizard @badcat That's crazy. I just baked homemade apple fritters. Still have flour on the tip of my nose.
@badcat @TreeWizard When I hear her name I think of apple fritters.Â
@TreeWizard Zombie Amanda Fritz? Still confused.
@badcat @TreeWizard A thing that comes out of the ground that dirty hippies like to hug.
@TreeWizard What's a "tree"? I'm confused....
@Lips @badcat @TreeWizard Well that's a thinker. I still don't understand what you guys are talking about.
@badcat @Lips @TreeWizard You like me for saying you don't like talking to me? I like it.
@Lips @badcat @TreeWizard I had to shower. I wasn't trying to fool you. Aw you went badcat on me.
@badcat @Lips @TreeWizard Maybe he doesn't like talking to me.
@Lips @TreeWizard And no response.....   lol
@TreeWizard @badcat Can't fool me with your WizardTree.
@TreeWizard I'm waiting for Lips to comment on the dippitydoodah, but as to the moss, I read that when I was studying the underground railroad. Sorry if that derailed the topic. heh!
@badcat @TreeWizard Okay, this dida business is bothering me.
@TreeWizard Really?  I heard that from Harriet Tubman.
@badcat @TreeWizard That's a bold face lie.
@TreeWizard Moss grows on the north side of trees.
@badcat Okay am lost again.
@TreeWizard @badcat @Lips Dida is alpha.  Your capitalization was a giveaway. lol
@badcat @TreeWizard @Lips What is a Dida?
@TreeWizard @badcat @Lips Sorry, dida.
@badcat @Lips So rude to me. I guess I should ask what part confuses you?
@Lips Can't wait to hear his reply to you. Guess he's taking his time thinking about exactly what to say?
@TreeWizard @badcat I'm very confused. ??? Help.
@TreeWizard @badcat  BC and I and a few others have been around forever here, but we also email and talk etc. We have our way's! :) Â
@Khre'Riov Ael i-Mhiessan t'Rllaillieu @badcat How do you know all of this?
@badcat No, it was Dragon Riders of Pern, and Dragon name.
@Khre'Riov Ael i-Mhiessan t'Rllaillieu Was "Tamianth" a Klingon word? Never occurred to me before, but it sounds like it could be...
@Khre'Riov Ael i-Mhiessan t'Rllaillieu @TreeWizard Oh.
@TreeWizard @Khre'Riov Ael i-Mhiessan t'Rllaillieu LOL! Yeah, you guy's just posting faster then I can.. lol!Â
Oh, A klingon.. Tree, Star Trek..Â
@badcat @TreeWizard BC.. no worry's here..Â
@Khre'Riov Ael i-Mhiessan t'Rllaillieu @TreeWizard Okay good, at least you understand what is happening.
@TreeWizard She means me.. Â
@TreeWizard @badcat LOL, you don't want to know them either tree...
BC, I was trying to forget those tards! But I'll pass on voting for hillary. And its Rihannsu
@badcat @TreeWizard Wtf is a Klingon? And why are we not cool anymore?
@TreeWizard Ok. Say hi to the Klingon for me. We used to be cool, but I guess not anymore. =(
@badcat @TreeWizard I don't know who any of those people are. I am just me, and this is my only account.
@TreeWizard For the past couple of weeks I'd been thinking that you were DiDa, but now that he's posting under his old name, I'm thinking that maybe you're just one of his bootlicks from the old Breitbart crowd. Jackson-something, perhaps? It's been too long, and I can't remember all the stupid little trolls from the last time you guys invaded this site...
@badcat @TreeWizard That makes one of us.
@TreeWizard I have no idea what that's supposed to mean.
@badcat @WendyTeagarden Sounds like you two want to gargle her marbles.Â
@WendyTeagarden Those aren't cajones. Unless they're rear mounted and trunk sized.
@badcat They can't stand a woman with bigger cajones than they have.
@WendyTeagarden No, they can't. Look at them still crying in disbelief over 2012. It's going to be sweet to see it happen again!! =)
@TreeWizard I can just see the bumper sticker " Do these butts make my car look fat?"
@WendyTeagarden @TreeWizard I can. I just won't have to in 2016.