Enthusiasts worry drone bill could shoot down their hobby
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SALEM, Ore. (AP) — Model airplane enthusiasts from around Oregon — some with their planes in tow— showed up at a legislative hearing Wednesday to ask that any legislation passed to regulate drones not force them to give up their hobby.
In its original form, Senate Bill 71 could have had this effect, but lawmakers have proposed an amendment that would exclude model airplanes from many of the bill's provisions. Still, hobbyists were worried.
"This bill as written seeks to make criminals out of hobbyists and remove a very pleasant pastime from our reach," Salem Radio Controlled Pilots Association member Janice Williamson told lawmakers.
Oregon is among more than 30 states whose legislatures are considering bills that seek to regulate the use of drones in the United States. Use of the unmanned vehicles has been hotly debated because of their use by the U.S. military abroad.
The Oregon bill is primarily intended to protect citizens' privacy as the use of drones by law enforcement agencies and others becomes more widespread.
The measure would require law enforcement agencies to obtain a criminal warrant before using drones for surveillance of private property, in all but emergency circumstances. State or local government bodies would be required to register with the state Department of Aviation to fly an unmanned aircraft in Oregon's skies.
The legislation also has provisions that apply to private citizens' use of unmanned aircraft. For example, citizens who use model aircraft to stalk or spy would be charged with crimes under current privacy laws, and could face tougher penalties than now exist for violating someone's privacy.
Under an amendment introduced earlier this week, model airplanes would be exempt from many of the measure's provisions.
Also Wednesday, several speakers took issue with the legislation's language, saying it should use the term "unmanned aerial vehicle" instead of "drone."
"The word drone, I'd respectfully ask that the committee consider using the word unmanned aircraft," said Anthony Johnson-Laird, a representative from the Professional Association of Radio Controlled Aircraft Pilots.
"It has a relatively negative connotation, and because this industry is just getting started, I think the matter of the choice of words is important," he said.
As the country tries to figure out how to regulate drones, some at the hearing said they already are using unmanned aircraft in various ways.
Barbara Frederiksen-Cross, an aviation enthusiast from Hubbard, said her disabled husband flies a tiny drone around their country home when the dogs bark to see if someone is coming to the door.
"I would hate to think that he's violating the law doing that," she told lawmakers.
Another person who testified, Andrey Kim, showed up with an unmanned, hand-built aircraft he uses for aerial photography.
Sen. Floyd Prozanski, the committee's chairman, said the bill is a work in progress and the panel will take citizens' concerns into account as it is being worked on.
Copyright 2013 The Associated Press.
Next thing you know they'll have plans for building drone jammers out of microwave ovens and rf transmitters making them all crash.Â
they will simply farm out the drone recon to private firms. Like they do with photo radar.
That's ok, let 'em fly. I just bought a box of 12 gauge 'drone loads', and I need the practice.
@Spook89Â you should be careful because if they are flying lawfully you could be hit with a Class C Felony under ORS 164.365.
It's just wonderful that our government wants to protect us from evil, when our government is the biggest enemy we have.  This is a government who wouldn't protect our people in Benghazi, who wouldn't kill osama bin ladin during Clinton's presidency, who took four years to tell Israel, our closest ally, that we are on their side, not Iran's.  This is the same government who put  Janet Napolitano in as  Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security.  The same Napolitano who told us she and her department had everything under control, when a terrorist didn't blow up an airplane, killing dozens of people, only because he screwed up when he made the bomb.  They try to hide their incompetence by picking on innocent citizens instead of trying to fix the real problems we have in this country.
Anyone else tired of the nit-picky laws that are stifling every part of our lives?
I fly RC helicopters all the time, it takes all my focus, to me, anything that does that is therapeutic, takes my mind off all the other crud. No cameras on them, just flying them around the park or yard.
@deejm2112Â Wouldn't be more fun if your RC was armed and had a camera. Thumpers worst nightmare.
This sounds like a hobby I should check out.
@WA_Transplant It's actually pretty cool and not that expensive, although it can get expensive.
On 4 channel now, still working up to 6 channel, this is my fav (although it's out of stock there)Â http://www.xheli.com/67h-9116-3d-orange.html
I can get that sucker going really fast in an open area too.
What's awesome is that the federal government, via the FAA, has decided that if you use one of those Sharper Image toy helicopters with a camera on it for commerical purposes, you are required to have a Commercial Pilots License.
OR, you can pay somebody like me $45/hr to do it for you.
Now, of course, there are people like Floyd in Oregon who DO want to make it a felony to possess an R/C aircraft with a camera on it.  We live in that world now.
@Playanekes      So it doesn't really matter because there is already a law against private drones, right?Â
If I see one flying over my property, I will shoot it down! I don't care who owns it! It will be recycled!
@Freedom1267 I like the recycling part, but the concept of 'property' is antiquated and guns are scary (especially those awful black ones).
Ban em. Ban em all! Ban everything! And if you can't ban em, license em.
@oodathunked You're singing the People's tune!
@oodathunked You forget to tax 'em after charging them service, application and registration fees.
And if the blades are over 10", Ginny Burdick will send the FAA over to inspect your premises and "ramp check" your chopper.
Just remember, the number to report anything suspicious is 1-800-GA-SECURE.
Of course more feel good laws that target innocent civilians instead of the real criminals in the government.
I take offense to the use of "unmanned aircraft." What if a man is not the one unmanning it? Instead let's use the term IFO (identified flying object) or even DBAIJADWAC (don't be alarmed it's just dolt with a controller) or TADHYANGL (that's a dumb hobby, you are never getting laid) or even better yet WHIYCTYTAAAYHTSTMTAMTNYFAFFOT (what happened in your childhood that you think as an adult you have to spend this much time and money to neglect your friends and family for overpriced toys). Or we can just stick with drone.
@UselessOpinion LMAO.  That was a funny read.
@UselessOpinion That really was a "UselessOpinion"....thanks
@danoseknows @UselessOpinion Well, he did warn you.
"Â Also Wednesday, several speakers took issue with the legislation's language, saying it should use the term "unmanned aerial vehicle" instead of "drone.""
And then the article goes on to use the word "drone" 10 more times. Â Anything to sensationalize the news I guess... *sighs*
I'm cashing in on my scale flak cannons.......
I didn't realize there were so many peeping Toms out there. Â Can't they just get their porn from the interwebs like everyone else?
@Fake Pilot I make my own. Just me and a mirror.
@Oregon7812Â TMI....
Again we see the knee jerk reaction of regulate it/ban it! Just like firearms. Just like 32 oz sodas. Just like pharmaceuticals. When are people going to learn that the tool is not do harm? It's not the spoon that makes you fat. It's not the car that careens into the oncoming lane. It's not the hobbyist's RC plane that targets an American citizen with Hellfire missiles. The tool only does what it's controller makes it do. It's the thief, not the .38 that robs the AM/PM. It's the pervert, not the cellphone that takes unauthorized pictures in the locker room. It's not the tool- it's the person!
@Ironclad Hey, I already apologized for the locker room incident, can we please just let it go..
Well I wish they would find him and make him stop. He is creating havoc!!
Yeah...once they've outlawed all the guns, the drones will be free to follow you around all day unhindered!!
THE SKY IS FALLING!!! LMAO!
And if you're into nature- here's one that I threw together for fun from Silver Falls State Park.
https://vimeo.com/57339759
thanks all! Â @Master Bashum- is that firewater as in a tasty beverage or in the band? Â :P
@Kenji Sugahara Papers please...
@Fake Pilot @Kenji Sugahara would you like me to deliver them by airmail?  heheheh.
@Kenji Sugahara WOW! Great stuff!
Thanks Kenji for showing the cool things you can do with RC drones. This is the kinda stuff that 99.999999% of the hobbiest out there are doing and our legislature wants to ban.
Thanks for views I have never been able to see. This is very interesting.
@Kenji Sugahara  Very nice, Kenji!
Here's some videos that were shot by multi-copter. Â You might surprised at some of the stuff we can do:
Good mix of different genres:
https://vimeo.com/56866691
If you're into rally car racing:
https://vimeo.com/59930252Â
@Kenji Sugahara Awsome stuff
@danoseknows thanks!!  Until I started getting into all of this I never they could do these kind of things. Â
The USAF has been flying random recon flights over the US since 1968 that I know of, whats new. Â The CAP does digital aerial photos, and may want to use recon drones for downed US aircraft searches. Â I guess let the downed pilots die. Â I guess thats what our paranoid society wants. Â
@RandyHÂ "and may want to use recon drones for downed US aircraft searches." Pretty sure if they are downed in the US a Helicopter will suffice.Â
They are selling the real Drones to the UAE ....???
@Glenn Pierce united arab emirates? If so gross.
This article just drones on and on.
They should pick up a real hobby like firearm collecting.
I think you would be surprised to learn that people that are into these drones usually have both.
I have a collection of both myself.
@TreeWizard Get both!
@TreeWizard "Real hobby".  Got it.  I'll start right away.