GOP leader: House to vote on debt limit increase

WASHINGTON (AP) - The Republican-controlled House will vote next week to permit the government to borrow more money to meet its obligations, a move aimed at heading off a market-rattling confrontation with President Barack Obama over the so-called debt limit.
Full details aren't settled yet, but the measure would give the government about three more months of borrowing authority beyond a deadline expected to hit as early as mid-February, No. 2 House Republican Eric Cantor of Virginia said Friday.
The legislation wouldn't require immediate spending cuts as earlier promised by GOP leaders like Speaker John Boehner of Ohio. Instead, it's aimed at forcing the Democratic-controlled Senate to join the House in debating the federal budget. It would try to do so by conditioning pay for members of Congress on passing budget measures through the House and Senate.
"We are going to pursue strategies that will obligate the Senate to finally join the House in confronting the government's spending problem," Boehner told GOP lawmakers at a retreat in Williamsburg, Va. "The principle is simple: 'no budget, no pay.'"
The Senate hasn't passed a budget since 2009, which has drawn lots of criticism from Republicans but protected Democrats controlling the chamber from politically difficult votes. The GOP measure would cut off or delay paychecks for lawmakers in either House or Senate if their chamber had not passed a budget resolution by April 15, but it would not require the two sides to reconcile their differences to keep receiving pay.
Obama and fellow Democrats welcomed the developments on the debt limit.
"We are encouraged that there are signs that congressional Republicans may back off their insistence on holding our economy hostage to extract drastic cuts in Medicare, education and programs middle-class families depend on," said White House Press Secretary Jay Carney in a statement. "Congress must pay its bills and pass a clean debt-limit increase without further delay."
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., also welcomed the development, but his office appeared to suggest Senate Democrats would not accept it because of the measure on congressional pay.
"It is reassuring to see Republicans beginning to back off their threat to hold our economy hostage," said Reid spokesman Adam Jentleson. "If the House can pass a clean debt-ceiling increase to avoid default and allow the United States to meet its existing obligations, we will be happy to consider it."
In Washington-speak, a "clean" debt limit increase means a stand-alone measure without additional measures - like the "no budget, no pay" idea - attached. Jentleson said Reid and his fellow Senate Democrats have yet to decide how they'll respond to the measure.
GOP leaders have been grappling with how to gain leverage in their battles with Obama over the budget. Boehner successfully won about $2 trillion in spending cuts as a condition of increasing the government's borrowing cap in 2011.
Obama, however, was dealt a stronger hand by his re-election in November and successfully pressed through a 10-year, $600 billion increase on upper-bracket tax payers earlier this month.
Other choke points remain, including sharp, across-the-board spending cuts that would start to strike the Pentagon and domestic programs alike on March 1 and the possibility of a partial government shutdown with the expiration of a temporary budget measure on March 27.
Failing to meet those deadlines would have far less serious consequences than defaulting on U.S. obligations like payments to bondholders, Social Security recipients and myriad other commitments when the government confronts a cash crisis and can no longer borrow to make payments. That could cause a meltdown in financial markets and would inflame voters already disgusted with Congress.
Under Congress' arcane budget procedures, a congressional budget resolution is a nonbinding measure that tries to set parameters for future legislation setting agency budgets and curbing federal benefit programs like Medicare.
Boehner has previously invoked a promise that any increase in the government's borrowing cap would be matched, dollar for dollar, by spending cuts or "reforms" that could include curbs on the long-term growth in retirement programs such as Medicare. Friday's announcement did not repeat that specific promise.
"Before there is any long-term debt limit increase, a budget should be passed that cuts spending," Boehner said. "The Democratic-controlled Senate has failed to pass a budget for four years. That is a shameful run that needs to end, this year."
The measure picked up support from key GOP conservatives, including the current and former chairmen of the Republican Study Committee, a powerful group inside the House GOP.
"In order to allow time for the Senate to act, next week's bill will extend the debt limit for three months," the Study Committee said Friday in a statement. "This is a necessary first step as we work to halt the decline of America and puts the focus where it belongs: on the Senate who has failed to do their jobs to pass a budget for more than three years." The statement was issued by RSC Chairman Steve Scalise, R-La., and former chairmen, Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, Tom Price, R-Ga., and Jeb Hensarling, R-Texas.
Obama's budget is due early next month but is expected to be released several weeks later.
Full details aren't settled yet, but the measure would give the government about three more months of borrowing authority beyond a deadline expected to hit as early as mid-February, No. 2 House Republican Eric Cantor of Virginia said Friday.
The legislation wouldn't require immediate spending cuts as earlier promised by GOP leaders like Speaker John Boehner of Ohio. Instead, it's aimed at forcing the Democratic-controlled Senate to join the House in debating the federal budget. It would try to do so by conditioning pay for members of Congress on passing budget measures through the House and Senate.
"We are going to pursue strategies that will obligate the Senate to finally join the House in confronting the government's spending problem," Boehner told GOP lawmakers at a retreat in Williamsburg, Va. "The principle is simple: 'no budget, no pay.'"
The Senate hasn't passed a budget since 2009, which has drawn lots of criticism from Republicans but protected Democrats controlling the chamber from politically difficult votes. The GOP measure would cut off or delay paychecks for lawmakers in either House or Senate if their chamber had not passed a budget resolution by April 15, but it would not require the two sides to reconcile their differences to keep receiving pay.
Obama and fellow Democrats welcomed the developments on the debt limit.
"We are encouraged that there are signs that congressional Republicans may back off their insistence on holding our economy hostage to extract drastic cuts in Medicare, education and programs middle-class families depend on," said White House Press Secretary Jay Carney in a statement. "Congress must pay its bills and pass a clean debt-limit increase without further delay."
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., also welcomed the development, but his office appeared to suggest Senate Democrats would not accept it because of the measure on congressional pay.
"It is reassuring to see Republicans beginning to back off their threat to hold our economy hostage," said Reid spokesman Adam Jentleson. "If the House can pass a clean debt-ceiling increase to avoid default and allow the United States to meet its existing obligations, we will be happy to consider it."
In Washington-speak, a "clean" debt limit increase means a stand-alone measure without additional measures - like the "no budget, no pay" idea - attached. Jentleson said Reid and his fellow Senate Democrats have yet to decide how they'll respond to the measure.
GOP leaders have been grappling with how to gain leverage in their battles with Obama over the budget. Boehner successfully won about $2 trillion in spending cuts as a condition of increasing the government's borrowing cap in 2011.
Obama, however, was dealt a stronger hand by his re-election in November and successfully pressed through a 10-year, $600 billion increase on upper-bracket tax payers earlier this month.
Other choke points remain, including sharp, across-the-board spending cuts that would start to strike the Pentagon and domestic programs alike on March 1 and the possibility of a partial government shutdown with the expiration of a temporary budget measure on March 27.
Failing to meet those deadlines would have far less serious consequences than defaulting on U.S. obligations like payments to bondholders, Social Security recipients and myriad other commitments when the government confronts a cash crisis and can no longer borrow to make payments. That could cause a meltdown in financial markets and would inflame voters already disgusted with Congress.
Under Congress' arcane budget procedures, a congressional budget resolution is a nonbinding measure that tries to set parameters for future legislation setting agency budgets and curbing federal benefit programs like Medicare.
Boehner has previously invoked a promise that any increase in the government's borrowing cap would be matched, dollar for dollar, by spending cuts or "reforms" that could include curbs on the long-term growth in retirement programs such as Medicare. Friday's announcement did not repeat that specific promise.
"Before there is any long-term debt limit increase, a budget should be passed that cuts spending," Boehner said. "The Democratic-controlled Senate has failed to pass a budget for four years. That is a shameful run that needs to end, this year."
The measure picked up support from key GOP conservatives, including the current and former chairmen of the Republican Study Committee, a powerful group inside the House GOP.
"In order to allow time for the Senate to act, next week's bill will extend the debt limit for three months," the Study Committee said Friday in a statement. "This is a necessary first step as we work to halt the decline of America and puts the focus where it belongs: on the Senate who has failed to do their jobs to pass a budget for more than three years." The statement was issued by RSC Chairman Steve Scalise, R-La., and former chairmen, Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, Tom Price, R-Ga., and Jeb Hensarling, R-Texas.
Obama's budget is due early next month but is expected to be released several weeks later.
Shame on the legislators for even thinking of increasing the debt limit! Obama has over spent the budget, repeatedly!
The debt limit does not need increasing! Obama's spending needs reducing!
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The Democrats are not helping the working class! They are forcing the working class into poverty!
The debt doesn't exist. It's a conspiracy theory.
Logic dictates comments by JTesla, Repoman, and others have merit. Â
Make a budget: Â Â Stop spending before it is spent:Â Â And then the credit limit (debt limit) isnât really a problem.
(As reported here) âUnder Congress' arcane budget procedures â . . .   Â
Therein is the devil.   They have encumbered spend in the future without ever considering how to pay for it.   Automatic spending forward is not the logic used here in describing how we use our credit cards.
They talk in terms of â. . saving of $xx over 10 years . . â.  Â
1)Â Â Â Â Â The trouble is that those monies âsavedâ only total about 10% of the âproblemâ AND they are in todayâs dollars.
2)Â Â Â Â Â Thereâll be another âSuperstormâ â be it weather or some other manmade adventure.
There may well be a time for borrowing â but not for everyday groceries. Â
There may be unforeseen calamities:Â Â But these arenât them.
Take Social Security for example:  The SSA.gov website has a calculator that you can download and put into your spreadsheet.    It allows you to put your wages in year by year and then presents you with an estimate of what your benefit will be.  Â
Congress wrote the code for the spending on SS.  They could figure out the spreadsheet.  They just didnât.
OK. Take Medicare:   They did the same thing.   Rising health cost is NOT NEW.  âHealth Care Prices, 1950-1967:  Discussion of Trends and Their Significanceâ http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=340015#qundefined   Â
Congress knew that health care was the fastest rising component of living when Medicare was instituted under Johnson in 1965.    But again, they didnât run the calculations on cost.
Nixon and Carter both proposed plans for universal coverage and price controls because Medicare was already out of control.  In less than 10 years it was out of control.  https://digital.library.txstate.edu/bitstream/handle/10877/3336/fulltext.pdf Â
As you can see; this is bass-ackwards for the logic posted in these threads of comments.  Â
Am I for âPay-As-You-Goâ? You bet!     Can we get there today?  No, it would do real harm to our economy.  However, we must start. Â
The problem is complex. I wish there was a magic silver bullet â oh wait !! I probably shouldnât use that phrase.   I wish there were an easy solution. . .
The word used here *arcane* to describe the budget procedures must change and become transparent.  Our leaders must quit posturing for 2016 and lead.   We either row together or we will surely sink separately.Â
Just another kicking of the can down the road, putting off the inevitable showdown.
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'It would try to do so by conditioning pay for members of Congress on passing budget measures through the House and Senate.'
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'The GOP measure would cut off or delay paychecks for lawmakers in either House or Senate if their chamber had not passed a budget resolution by April 15, but it would not require the two sides to reconcile their differences to keep receiving pay.'
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Whew... for a minute there I thought I was going to have to say I agreed with Rep Boehner on something.Â
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But, as is typically the case, the Congressional ideology of self-serving before national service keeps me in disbelief. Tell ya what, Rep Boehner, how about you pass legislation that stops payroll until a budget is signed into law by the President? That way, neither party or house of congress can give ultimatums and claim innocence under the heading of 'well, we did OUR job. It's the other guys fault that they didn't agree with us.'
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C'mon, Ried, Boehner and the rest of you disfunctional lemmings... I double dog dare ya. The rest of the country is beholden to the whims of your partisan bickering, why not put your paychecks where your talk is?
Try passing an actual budget first. 1,360 days and counting.
Those repukes are really starting to tick me off. They need to quit playing games with BHO and his cronies and make a tough decision and stand firm on their prior "promises". Have they not yet figured out that BHO and his dummies will NEVER do what they agree to do when the Reps make these idiotic deals with them?
Good. Another temporary, stop-gap measure. Can't Congress do anything for a longer term than a couple of months? No wonder nothing in Washington ever gets done. They go through the same old hoops time and time again without ever really accomplishing anything.
Don't cry John. The Tea Party will understand... ha!
"In Washington-speak, a "clean" debt limit increase means a stand-alone measure without additional measures - like the "no budget, no pay" idea - attached. Jentleson said Reid and his fellow Senate Democrats have yet to decide how they'll respond to the measure."
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Exactly who interpreted the "washington speak" ??? It appears, as written, that the media does interpretations ??
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So much for that damn "liberal media" hey ??
The debt limit is not the fight, pass it and get it done with. The House Republicans need to keep their eyes on the March dates regarding cuts and expiration of the temporary budget. Those are the the items to fight over.
 @JTesla I agree. The problem is that Boehner is trying desperately to keep in good graces with the 'tea party'. As a result, EVERY issue is a fight over spending cuts. The house could take a vote on a bill declaring the sky is blue, and Boehner would somehow attach it to spending cuts.Â
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Although, in all fairness, with Ried and his cohorts over in the Senate, EVERY issue is over not addressing the basic issue of the government overspending. In the 'sky is blue' bill, there would be a half-billion or so in pork that would never get mentioned in the 'for the childruuuuun' PR blitz waged against the House for not passing it.Â
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Preciscly.
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You don't fight with your spouse about paying the Visa bill, you fight when they go out and USE it.
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Money's spent, you don't pay it back (or ask "Visa" to raise your limit), you go over and your credit is cut. Then you must spend MORE money to get that resolved.
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The Budget.
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Take care of the budget. And the debt ceiling will resolve itself. Talk about it, argue about it and find ways to trim it or ways to pay for what we want.
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It might not all be about austerity, but it must be about SOMETHING. We need to pay the bills.
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We either tighten our belts, or ask the boss for more money (both to some degree are needed).
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But we don't use THIS as the tool.
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