In gun debate, video game industry defends itself

WASHINGTON (AP) - The video game industry, blamed by some for fostering a culture of violence, defended its practices Friday at a White House meeting exploring how to prevent horrific shootings like the recent Connecticut elementary school massacre.
Vice President Joe Biden, wrapping up three days of wide-ranging talks on gun violence prevention, said the meeting was an effort to understand whether the U.S. was undergoing a "coarsening of our culture."
"I come to this meeting with no judgment. You all know the judgments other people have made," Biden said at the opening of a two-hour discussion. "We're looking for help."
The gaming industry says that violent crime, particularly among the young, has fallen since the early 1990s while video games have increased in popularity.
There are conflicting studies on the impact of video games and other screen violence. Some conclude that video games can desensitize people to real-world violence or temporarily quiet part of the brain that governs impulse control. Other studies have concluded there is no lasting effect.
Cheryl Olson, a participant in Biden's meeting and a researcher of the effect of violent video games, said there was concern among industry representatives that they would be made into a scapegoat in the wake of the Connecticut shooting.
"The vice president made clear that he did not want to do that," Olson said.
Biden is expected to suggest ways to address violence in video games, movies and on television when he sends President Barack Obama a package of recommendations for curbing gun violence Tuesday. The proposals are expected to include calls for universal background checks and bans on assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition magazines.
Obama appointed Biden to lead a gun violence task force after last month's shooting at a Newtown, Conn., elementary school that left 20 children and six educators dead.
Gun-safety activists were coalescing around expanded background checks as a key goal for the vice president's task force. Some advocates said it may be more politically realistic — and even more effective as policy — than reinstating a ban on assault weapons.
The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence said some 40 percent of gun sales happen with no background checks, such as at gun shows and by private sellers over the Internet or through classified ads.
"Our top policy priority is closing the massive hole in the background check system," the group said.
While not backing off support for an assault weapons ban, some advocates said there could be broader political support for increasing background checks, in part because that could actually increase business for retailers and licensed gun dealers who have access to the federal background check system.
"The truth is that an assault weapons ban is a very important part of the solution — and it is also much tougher to pass," said Mark Glaze, director of Mayors Against Illegal Guns.
Restrictions on high-capacity ammunition magazines are also seen by some as an easier lift politically than banning assault weapons.
The National Rifle Association adamantly opposes universal background checks, as well as bans on assault weapons and high-capacity magazines — all measures that would require congressional approval. The NRA and other pro-gun groups contend that a culture that glamorizes violence bears more responsibility for mass shootings than access to a wide range of weapons and ammunition.
In a 2009 report, the American Academy of Pediatrics declared, "The evidence is now clear and convincing: Media violence is one of the causal factors of real-life violence and aggression."
The report focused on all types of media violence. But for video games in particular, the pediatricians cited studies that found high exposure to violent ones increased physical aggression at least in the short term, and warned that they allow people to rehearse violent acts. On the other hand, it said friendly video games could promote good behavior.
A wide spectrum of the video game industry was represented at the meeting with the vice president, including the makers of violent war video games like "Call of Duty" and "Medal of Honor" and a representative from the Entertainment Software Ratings Board, which sets age ratings that on every video game package released in the United States.
The vice president met Thursday with representatives from the entertainment industry, including Motion Picture Association of America and the National Cable & Telecommunications Association. In a joint statement after the meeting, a half-dozen said they "look forward to doing our part to seek meaningful solutions" but offered no specifics.
Biden, hinting at other possible recommendations to the president, said he is interested in technology that would keep a gun from being fired by anyone other than the person who bought it. He said such technology may have curtailed what happened last month in Connecticut, where the shooter used guns purchased by his mother.
The vice president has also discussed making gun trafficking a felony, a step Obama can take through executive action. And he is expected to make recommendations for improving mental health care and school safety.
"We know this is a complex problem," Biden said. "We know there's no single answer."
The president plans to push for the new measures in his State of the Union address, scheduled for Feb. 12.
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Associated Press writers Lauran Neergaard and Darlene Superville contributed to this report.
Copyright 2013 The Associated Press.
This is really, really sad. It is sad that these incidences have occurred and innocents were injured/killed, but what is REALLY sad, and almost pathetic, is Biden and his false agenda.  It is sad that our leaders are using the tragedy as a liberal platform to coerce or convince people to side with them against constitutional rights.  Freedom, you are correct, they won't blame the person because that would be way to simple and not allow them to add a bunch of crap to their portfolios.
Far more profitable for them to blame the guns so they can have backup for their stupid agendas.
Far be it for them to actually hold anyone responsible for anything, or abide by the constitution.
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QUESTION #1:  How would additional gun legislation prevent this type of stuff from occurring?
QUESTION #2:  How would additional gun legislation prevent this type of stuff from occurring?
Answer the question! Â No, don't give me excuses. Answer it.
QUESTION #3:  Do you seriously think that placing restrictions on law abiding citizens is going to stop this stuff? Really?
Why?
How?
Do you think that criminals get their guns legally in most cases?
How do you propose to regulate this type of stuff when their are millions of unregistered guns in this country?
Impossible.
What about the people that already LEGALLY own this stuff?
You cannot take them away. Definitely without compensation. Â Where is the money going to come from? Â More debt? Ridiculous.
This is just ridiculous. Â I am tired of hearing about it.
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I vote for a video game where Biden is the cat, and you get to kick him around the house. What a moron that guy is.  Does anybody remember him running for president and plagiarizing JFK?  What a moron.  I can't believe that anyone listens to that guy.  A person could not possibly be more full of crap.
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I think a great video game would be where you're a cat, and all you do is run around and do cat stuff at night, like singing to attract other cats while dodging the angry old man's shoe, or catching a rat without getting chased by the stray dog. You get nine lives.
Why is it that the liberals want to blame everything but the person that commits the crime?
Liberals are always looking for an excuse for everything. In their minds nobody should be held responsible for their actions. The liberal mentality seems just plain ignorant to me.
Gun Control stuff is not very smart, because there are plenty of laws for Guns on the books already, and what we need to do is Change the Culture of Violence, because that is the only way we are going to change things in this country. The fact is we have a right to guns in this country, but we need to be smart about it.
Democratic Congressman Kurt Schrader of the 5th District of Oregon
 @lee986321 Did you really just put forth a statement regarding changing "the Culture of Violence" after making a post that advocated arming everyone and putting "bad guys in the ground"?
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Wait, why would that surpise me coming from you? Nevermind, carry on.
And my seconed thing is we can go round and round on this dance of making guns illegal.. Let me ask you this question point blank, "What can we do to offenders that will fear the laws." I say arm every one. and put a few of the bad guys in the ground. saves us taxes and after enough are put in the ground maybe we might get some peace and quite on this nonsense.
Personally I think they aught to create more games that are educational then mindless shooting and blowing t hings up..at least in RPG types people are collecting items and just not killing things for no reason.
Only fools and idiots could believe that more anti gun laws will make any difference!
Criminals and mental cases just don't care about breaking laws, new or old.
"The truth is that an assault weapons ban is a very important part of the solution â and it is also much tougher to pass," said Mark Glaze, director of Mayors Against Illegal Guns.
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AMAZING how he is the director of Mayors Against Illegal Guns AND he wants to make MORE guns illegal :)
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Can't make this stuff up!
 @Umhal I wonder if we'll hear from the group: Mayors For Illegal Guns?
 @JTesla Chuckle!  Reminds me of the Monty Python schtick... "Judaen People's Front...We're the People's Front of Judea!"
I think the head line actually says it all, "In gun debate, video game industry defends itself." It's not a debate on what to do about violence and crime, it's solely about the guns irrespective of violence and crime. Which is why the victim disarmament crowd isn't interested in having a conversation, and is instead rushing the legislation.
 @ChrisJ82 So in your other post you go on about all the 'cumulative elements, population density, poverty but cherry pick your stats  by using flawed formulas where data has no true parallel resulting to violence and now you slide another direction, interesting, but your still on track cause "guns don't kill people, people kill people" ,in your NRA slant, and they do it pretty deadly with the AR15 and other battlefield weapons with the clips nobody can ethically use hunting....how is it in your thinking that it's ok to permit and market battlefield weapons to the public? 1776 we had slavery too so times change as society becomes educated and evolves, you know how to bend things to support your arguments, but close inspection reveals the same old cat, use fear, they want all guns! over and over the lie is repeated so sooner or later is part and parcel of the myth, oh you are clever, but unfortunate, in that sense of community,missing from you, where we trust one another, because we know our neighbors and help out where we can, see that is the Oregon were proud to be part of one that cultivates peace, yes we have to deal with compassion to those without it, your no demon, misled maybe, were praying for you, that your heart turns, and a warmth for humanity fills you as much as the fear does now. Peace, you will be free if you open your heart, and you can be a force for peace lifting yourself and others along the way.
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 @ChrisJ82 You know, I have to commend you for using the phrase "Victim Disarmament Crowd" because it's absolutely spot on in it's clarity and intent.
We need a ban on high-capacity video games that allow game-play beyond one hour at a time, or twenty hours total. (With an exception for gov't employees, of course.)
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Biden's pretend attempt at touching all bases before falling back on the "assault" weapons ban. After all the big guns are taken away, people will use handguns to do their evils and then Biden will want to take those too.
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 @TimBurr I so expect more from you than to pull that out, repeat a lie often enough people will accept it as truth, what happened to you? You and your brothers loved to roll around shooting caps yelling kerpow! but you know what 1st responders have to endure....just sad, the facts are killings rose 66% in mass killings directly as result of those weapons being available, you are person who has given to your community, is it really the neighborhood you want,? Good luck to you.
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Julie Woodward, age 17, was on Zoloft when she hung herself in her family's detached garage.
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Matthew Miller was 13 when he saw a psychiatrist because he was having difficulty at school. The psychiatrist gave him samples of Zoloft. Seven days later his mother found him dead, hanging by a belt from a laundry hook in his closet.
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Kurt Danysh, age 18, and on Prozac, killed his father with a shotgun. He is now behind prison bars, and writes letters, trying to warn the world that SSRI drugs can kill.
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Hammad Memon, age 15, shot and killed a fellow middle school student. He had been diagnosed with ADHD and depression and was taking Zoloft and "other drugs for the conditions."
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Matti Saari, a 22-year-old culinary student, shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine.
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Steven Kazmierczak, age 27, shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amounts of Xanax in his system.
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Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen, age 18, had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School â then he committed suicide.
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Asa Coon from Cleveland, age 14, shot and wounded four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon was on Trazodone.
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Jon Romano, age 16, on medication for depression, fired a shotgun at a teacher in his New York high school.Missing from list... 3 of 4 known to have taken these same meds....
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What drugs was James Eagan Holmes on, age 24..... killed 12 people and injuring 59 others in Aurora Colorado
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WHY IS THIS NOT A PRIORITY OF DISCUSSION AS WELL???????
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I believe the constitution to be a living document that can be adjusted and revised as to extend rights not to limit or take away rights of the good, law abiding and responsible people. I wish we could look into the mental health aspect of this as passionately as we discuss the gun control topic. I find it far more concerning that we give many people these prescription drugs that have a history of making people more mentally unstable. Prescriptions that openly state that they may have suicidal mood altering side effects.
 @holymolE HELL YES!  Here's the warning at Drugs.Com for Ambien:
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"Report any new or worsening symptoms to your doctor, such as: depression, anxiety, aggression, agitation, confusion, unusual thoughts, hallucinations, memory problems, changes in personality, risk-taking behavior, decreased inhibitions, no fear of danger, or thoughts of suicide or hurting yourself."
 @holymolE May I use this on my facebook page? Its very well done.. thank you! :)
 @holymolE Though to play devil's advocate, the drugs may only be a common symptom, while the common cause can still be the underlying mental disorder.
If looking back, all schools shootings have been kids(?) taking parents guns.  Why not start at the route of the problem, and require those who have guns at home to LOCK them up.  A 6-12 month moratorium.  If a child/minor uses a gun not locked up and kills someone, then the guns owner(s)  face negligent  manslaughter charges.
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 @RandyH As a gun owner I would fully support legislation that requires gun owners to secure their stored weapons with an anti-theft device, and I would comply with any reasonable legislation to that effect.
Okay, pick a number between one and ten and decide which amendment you are willing to compromise this time to feel safe. Once you do that then, pick from the nine left that you are willing to lose because it's not important to you. Take your time, because it won't happen immediately. And finally, you may recognize this quote from a charismatic leader..."It also gives us a very special, secret pleasure to see how unaware the people around us are of what is really happening to them." ---Hitler
Stupid politicians barking up the wrong tree ............
 the vast majority of those 11,000+/- who die by gun deaths each year in the US are young black men in gangs killing each other. That is not the result of video games...... IT IS THE RESULT OF 70%+ ILLEGITIMATE BIRTH RATE AMONG BLACKS.
I'm thinking that since the obozo wrecking crew, and crazy Joe, is getting so much push back from people about the 2nd Amendment, as in leave it alone, that they will now go after your 1st Amendment rights, as in censorship. Heck Joe, let's go one step further. Don't stop at video games, go after everything. Books, magazines, TV & movies, records, CD's, the Beatles 'Helter Skelter', comics, etc. Lets just become a Fahrenheit 451 society and call it good. Problem(s) solved.
I can see the headline right now, if there is still going to be newspapers and internet:
'Censorship in Socialist America was implemented by obozo's Minister of Propaganda, Joseph Biden'.Â
@theobserver --- welcome to the United Socialist States of American, courtesy of the Great Divider.
"Vice President Joe Biden, wrapping up three days of wide-ranging talks on gun violence prevention, said the meeting was an effort to understand whether the U.S. was undergoing a "coarsening of our culture." This one time I have to agree with Biden. When our society has come to or (fallen to) a point where an unwanted unborn fetus can simply be killed and then disposed of, then yes, we are experiencing a "coarsening of our culture". I'm not passing judgement whether it's right or wrong, it's not my decision. It does offer an example of the changes in societal behavior as to what's acceptable and considered normal by today's standards.   Â
 @last boyscout No, abortion is not today's standards they are yesterdays (1970's) standards. Â
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By today's standards, we can kill 168 children in Pakistan with drone strikes and not even talk about it!