Obama, Republicans cooperate on spending — for now

WASHINGTON (AP) - The Obama administration and congressional Republicans are quietly working in tandem to blunt the impact of short-term spending cuts that kicked in with dire White House warnings a few days ago, with both sides eager to pocket the full savings for deficit reduction as they pivot to a new clash over Medicare.
The overall size of the cuts remains in place: $85 billion in reductions through the end of the budget year on Sept. 30, half from defense and half from domestic programs as diverse as education, parks and payments to doctors and hospitals treating Medicare patients.
But legislation drafted by House Republicans to prevent a government shutdown on March 27 also gives the Pentagon and the Veterans Affairs Department flexibility to allocate cuts that no agency currently has. A vote on the measure was arranged for Wednesday.
Senate Democrats seem likely to agree to the flexibility if it can be expanded to include other agencies, according to several officials who described closed-door talks that also involved the White House. Among the candidates are the departments of Homeland Security, Transportation, Justice and State. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity, saying they were not authorized to disclose details.
The move marks a reversal for President Barack Obama and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., both of whom spoke dismissively in recent days of Republican plans for flexibility in administering the cuts.
"The problem is when you're cutting $85 billion in seven months, which represents over a 10 percent cut in the defense budget in seven months, there's no smart way to do that," the president said Feb. 26 in Newport News, Va.
"You don't want to have to choose between, Let's see, do I close funding for the disabled kid or the poor kid? Do I close this Navy shipyard or some other one?"
Asked last week whether he would agree to flexibility, Reid said: "No, why would I? I don't have a reason to do so."
Pentagon officials embraced flexibility even before the measure came to a vote in the House.
The difference for the Navy is "almost night and day," the service's top uniformed officer told Congress on Tuesday. With flexibility, said Adm. Jonathan Greenert, the chief of naval operations, work could proceed on the overhaul of two aircraft carriers and construction on a third, all projects that the Pentagon had said would be curtailed without any changes.
The Pentagon did not immediately say whether it also would be able to order the USS Harry S. Truman to the Persian Gulf region, a mission it announced earlier would fall victim to the cuts.
Whatever the eventual impact of the spending cuts, the long-running struggle between the parties over deficits soon will shift to rival budgets under preparation by House Republicans and Senate Democrats.
Republican officials said Tuesday that Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., the chairman of the House Budget Committee, had decided against accelerating plans for a highly controversial overhaul of Medicare, the program that provides health care for people aged 65 and older. Several members of the rank and file have said in recent days Ryan was considering a budget that would implement far-reaching changes beginning in less than a decade.
The Republican proposal would give future retirees a choice between the existing program and one that provides beneficiaries a voucher for their care. In its previous forms, it also capped the overall cost of the program.
Republicans say their approach would help ensure the survival of Medicare for future retirees.
Democrats say it would end the guarantee of health care coverage for seniors that has existed since the 1960s by imposing steadily higher costs on beneficiaries.
Ryan's suggestion to accelerate the overhaul drew objections from some Republicans because it would have meant reversing a pledge the party has made to leave Medicare generally unchanged for anyone currently aged 55 and older.
The switch had few if any supporters at a closed-door leadership meeting earlier in the week, according to Republicans who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the session.
One lawmaker not at the session, Rep. Mike Simpson of Idaho, told reporters on Tuesday there was concern among some Republicans that incumbents and candidates in swing seats could be harmed in the 2014 elections. "You've told people you'd be doing one thing" and then changing the pledge, he said.
Democrats are poised to attack Republicans over their plans regardless.
Even before reports first surfaced of a possible change in the Republican timetable, Reid told reporters, "Republicans plan to make more extreme cuts to Medicare and Medicaid, education, medical research. They are in an untenable position."
Obama has proposed cuts totaling $400 billion or more to Medicare and other health care benefit programs but has refused to accept the type of change that Republicans seek.
In his State of the Union address last month, the president said he wants to reduce taxpayer subsidies to prescription drug companies, impose higher costs on wealthier seniors and make payments to providers based on "the quality of care seniors receive" rather than the number of tests.
"I am open to additional reforms from both parties, so long as they don't violate the guarantee of a secure retirement," he said.
The overall size of the cuts remains in place: $85 billion in reductions through the end of the budget year on Sept. 30, half from defense and half from domestic programs as diverse as education, parks and payments to doctors and hospitals treating Medicare patients.
But legislation drafted by House Republicans to prevent a government shutdown on March 27 also gives the Pentagon and the Veterans Affairs Department flexibility to allocate cuts that no agency currently has. A vote on the measure was arranged for Wednesday.
Senate Democrats seem likely to agree to the flexibility if it can be expanded to include other agencies, according to several officials who described closed-door talks that also involved the White House. Among the candidates are the departments of Homeland Security, Transportation, Justice and State. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity, saying they were not authorized to disclose details.
The move marks a reversal for President Barack Obama and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., both of whom spoke dismissively in recent days of Republican plans for flexibility in administering the cuts.
"The problem is when you're cutting $85 billion in seven months, which represents over a 10 percent cut in the defense budget in seven months, there's no smart way to do that," the president said Feb. 26 in Newport News, Va.
"You don't want to have to choose between, Let's see, do I close funding for the disabled kid or the poor kid? Do I close this Navy shipyard or some other one?"
Asked last week whether he would agree to flexibility, Reid said: "No, why would I? I don't have a reason to do so."
Pentagon officials embraced flexibility even before the measure came to a vote in the House.
The difference for the Navy is "almost night and day," the service's top uniformed officer told Congress on Tuesday. With flexibility, said Adm. Jonathan Greenert, the chief of naval operations, work could proceed on the overhaul of two aircraft carriers and construction on a third, all projects that the Pentagon had said would be curtailed without any changes.
The Pentagon did not immediately say whether it also would be able to order the USS Harry S. Truman to the Persian Gulf region, a mission it announced earlier would fall victim to the cuts.
Whatever the eventual impact of the spending cuts, the long-running struggle between the parties over deficits soon will shift to rival budgets under preparation by House Republicans and Senate Democrats.
Republican officials said Tuesday that Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., the chairman of the House Budget Committee, had decided against accelerating plans for a highly controversial overhaul of Medicare, the program that provides health care for people aged 65 and older. Several members of the rank and file have said in recent days Ryan was considering a budget that would implement far-reaching changes beginning in less than a decade.
The Republican proposal would give future retirees a choice between the existing program and one that provides beneficiaries a voucher for their care. In its previous forms, it also capped the overall cost of the program.
Republicans say their approach would help ensure the survival of Medicare for future retirees.
Democrats say it would end the guarantee of health care coverage for seniors that has existed since the 1960s by imposing steadily higher costs on beneficiaries.
Ryan's suggestion to accelerate the overhaul drew objections from some Republicans because it would have meant reversing a pledge the party has made to leave Medicare generally unchanged for anyone currently aged 55 and older.
The switch had few if any supporters at a closed-door leadership meeting earlier in the week, according to Republicans who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the session.
One lawmaker not at the session, Rep. Mike Simpson of Idaho, told reporters on Tuesday there was concern among some Republicans that incumbents and candidates in swing seats could be harmed in the 2014 elections. "You've told people you'd be doing one thing" and then changing the pledge, he said.
Democrats are poised to attack Republicans over their plans regardless.
Even before reports first surfaced of a possible change in the Republican timetable, Reid told reporters, "Republicans plan to make more extreme cuts to Medicare and Medicaid, education, medical research. They are in an untenable position."
Obama has proposed cuts totaling $400 billion or more to Medicare and other health care benefit programs but has refused to accept the type of change that Republicans seek.
In his State of the Union address last month, the president said he wants to reduce taxpayer subsidies to prescription drug companies, impose higher costs on wealthier seniors and make payments to providers based on "the quality of care seniors receive" rather than the number of tests.
"I am open to additional reforms from both parties, so long as they don't violate the guarantee of a secure retirement," he said.
Well if it is really the Republicans fault than all I can say to them isâ¦â Thank you very much, Thank you very muchâ¦.â Though it is only a cut in growth, at least it is a start. Now if we really would start cutting at our budget and be serious about it. How about we start with a 50% cut in salary with the President, Senate, and Congress. All in favor say âAYE!â.
Since obama and his democrat puppets are responsible for the debt crisis,  the Republicans shouldn't give an inch.  They should stand their ground and make his highness beg for any compromise.  This is what his highness expects from the Republicans.  When all is said and done, this fool for a president will go down in history as one of, if not America's worst  president.  He is no better than any other dictator in the world and one day the dumbos who voted him into office will see that.  Too bad the rest of us have to suffer because of their stupidity.
@Shadow This sounds just like your obstructionist traffic policy. Is that all you know how to do, get in other people's way and impede whenever possible? Constipated much?
@Shadow
"Since obama and his democrat puppets are responsible for the debt crisis"
No actually, both parties are to blame. Â Bush started it, Obama continued it while the other lawmakers let it happen! Â You need to realize neither party has your best interests in mind.
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/boehner-s-house-has-increased-debt-18944-household
@Shadow  is this the twilight zone? did 2000 - 2007 disappear?
@Trickledown @Shadow 2008 and some of 2009 disappeared too...amazing ! When their god uncle ronny raised taxes the republicons became mutes...just odd but then thats the good 'ol republicon party !Â
@B Smizzle @Playanekes @sargerator @Trickledown @Shadow I respect your words, but, the Republicans aren't trying to make criminals out of law-abiding citizens, or calling me "gun nuts" or "terrorists" or "racists" or "extremists" for supporting the Constitution. And, I don't see the Democrats standing up and telling people like Cuomo, Feinstein, Reid, Biden or Burdick that they're out of line.
The Republicans aren't trying to shut down Head Start while sending a quarter-billion dollars to Egypt. (They're just trying to shut down Head Start. But at least they're honest about it. Kitzhaber wasn't to shut it down, appoint an Education Czar, and create a state-run version of the same thing. Fact.)
I have to vote Republican next time to punish the Democrats. It's like the old man allegedly used to say "Son, this is gonna hurt me as much as it hurts you, but, it has to be done."
Otherwise, I've been voting Independent since before Perot, and, people have been criticizing that philosophy since the '90s so I'm used to it. I'll walk miles in those shoes again; but only after the Democrats understand that they don't get to marginalize, criminalize or misrepresent me either.
@JTesla I've flown single-engine airplanes from Alaska to Texas and Minnesota in the last year and a half, but, yeah...I do need to get out more.Â
@Playanekes "and that has proved to be the biggest, most humiliating mistake of my life."
You need to get out more.
@Playanekes @sargerator @Trickledown @Shadow I would rather not call you a Republican, I would rather call you an independent and free thinker! Â
You say voting for Obama in 2008 was the biggest mistake of your life but say you are going to vote Republican next time. Â You are going to vote for the other party that started this country into this nosedive and is doing NOTHING but helping Obama.
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/boehner-s-house-has-increased-debt-18944-household
Until the Republicans are serious about balancing the budget voting for either major party will continue to be your biggest mistake ever!
@sargerator @Trickledown @Shadow Yeah, that's probably is going to melt down your puny minds, but, 2000-2007, as well as 2008 and 2009, are over.
It's 2013 now. I voted for Obama in 2008 and that has proved to be the biggest, most humiliating mistake of my life. Don't listen to the criticism if independent, politically-neutral citizens if it offends your King.
Go ahead an call me a Republican anyway because that's the only trick you've got. I'm voting Republican next time and hoping my brand new NRA membership--thanks to comments on this forum-- help destroy Democrats in Washington too.
"Democrats are poised to attack Republicans over their plans regardless."
And remember not to contradict the fear mongering stories coming out of the WH.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar/5/email-tells-feds-make-sequester-painful-promised/
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/03/06/white-house-cries-wolf-3-times-over-past-10-days-about-sequester-cuts/
The republican party has truly lost its compass. Actually it was being re-calibrated by Christi while taking a stroll with Bama. Now the republican party has to wait for its next great white hope. Oh wait, since they got their clocked cleaned last election, they will rely on their next candidate- Their great brown hope.  Did you know Obama won? Someone pass the popcorn.
@lousecrapton Is this what passes for "intelligent" at your house?
That makes me want to line partisan Democrats and Republicans up and shove them into a pond filled with starving piranhas, is the way they treat social debate like it's a college football game.  Go Team. Rah Rah Rah.   If your players suck, well, it's because the refs are working for the other team. If your team displays extreme lack of sportsmanship, well, so does the other guy. Look over there!! Â
@Playanekes @lousecrapton That's the way they operate when they can't think for themselves. Just regurgitate what they've heard on tv.
@lousecraptonSomething to munch on while Rome burns.
@TimBurr @lousecrapton At least someone will enjoy the golf courses while they're still around.
@axpman @TimBurr @lousecrapton How was obamas 4 day weekend with tiger woods? golf and chicks
Every time I think this President can't stoop any lower, he finds a way to do it. Funny how they mention cutting off funding for poor/hungry and/or disabled children, yet they find a way to fund the Muslim Brotherhood.Â
@KachinaPssst. The media isn't supposed to talk about that.
You know... the whole "So, it is our opinion that however you manage that reduction, you need to make sure you are not contradicting what we said the impact would be" thing.
"The Obama administration and congressional Republicans are quietly working in tandem to blunt the impact of short-term spending cuts"
So the sequester, the fiscal cliff, is actually a little speed bump.
Defence spending grew from $295 billion in 2000 to $700 billion in 2011, sure wish we had that $4,400,000,000,000 back.
@trololol It's closer to 900 billion.
Cooperate on spending? Come on - just last month they overspent by 50 + BILLION, gifting eastern states with federal monies that this country does not have. \When our prez and our U.S. Congress should have told these states to incur the debt for themselves - or actually start up a rainy day account for those predictable hurricanes that hit the Eastern Seaboard predictably - and will continue to do so. So that UNCOOPERATIVE ACT by the prez and the dems and the GOP put us all  a hug hole of holes this month.Â
Cutting 80 billion this month isn't even going to come close to what should be a sustainable budget that they all should be (line item) publishing today. Refusing to overhaul Medicare now? Come on - lies, lies, lies KATU - as to that all being a sign of this Congress "cooperating" with the tax payers that pay all of their bills.Â
KATU sees a pattern of "cooperation" in D.C. in regard to tamping down (over)spending of our elected leaders? Come on - that's a lie, KATU. You obviously follow the "news" - how can you assert a mistruth like this?Â
Here is proof positive B HO Â is just a slime ball playing politics.....
He has closed the white house tour office because clearly  the  salaries of the seven people who work there  will put quite a dent  in the 85billion  in cuts.............. [rolleyes]
@kramr    The only way he could go any lower is to sell weapons to the Iranians and give that money to egypt.
@Trickledown@kramrEgypt is #2 on foreign aid funding. "For the current fiscal year, President Obama is requesting $1.55 billion in aid to Egypt, about 80 percent of it in the form of military assistance."
Because fighter jets, tanks, armored personnel carriers, attack helicopters, anti-aircraft missiles, and surveillance aircraft are all so important to building a healthy democracy.Â
http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/30/16773231-us-aid-seems-secure-despite-egyptian-turmoil?lite
@kramr [roll eyes] No whining about the cuts... This is what you asked for. Besides, you can still go tour Congress...
@Max Quinn @kramr  no whining about the cuts....... just commenting on which cuts  B HO is choosing to  make.  its  crystal clear B HO is choosing to make cuts that are visible and/or painful so as to tug at the heart strings of Americans.  Obviously  the 2%  cuts (or more accurately  the reduction in growth)  could easily  be done with without the  fear mongering
@kramr @Max Quinn It's the only game his knows how to play. He's an installed dictator with no leadership skills. He has to play on emotion since he has no other cards left to play.Â
@kramr I heard ihe tour guides were VOLUNTEERS, so where is the budget "savings" coming from I wonder.
@Kachina @kramr They originate in the same place as all his other "promises".
@kramr  While I agree that it may not "put a dent" in the budget, I do welcome this as a start. BTW, I am not an Obama fan but its good that SOMETHING changes since we cant continue the way we have been.
@kramr The people that conduct thoes tours are volunteers. They are not even paid employees. BHO is nothing but a LIAR and no chief.
@kramr I also heard obama mixed up a star trek and star wars reference...OMG ! ...D'OH !
@kramr I heard obama turned to the left this morning instead of the right...AAARRRGGG !
@sargerator Deep Thoughts by Captain Strawberry.
It appears what many of us has suspected to be true.... B HO Â IS Â fear mongeringÂ
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03/06/leaked-email-adds-fuel-to-claims-white-house-playing-politics-over-impact-cuts/
@kramr Haha, you claim fear mongering then link a site from the fear mongering capital of the media?
@Ramsesthegreat @kramr I thought MSNBC was the fear mongering capital of the media.
@kramr Ah , fauxe nooze rhetoric, "Some political strategists say"....ya those dependable "some say" individulas..HA ! Oh, and did you read the actual email ?? What is the controversy ?? Really ? Glad you've confirmed your "go to" information comes from fauxe nooze !
@sargerator @kramr Ya because I never hear left-leaning rhetoric coming from all of the other combined new stations...oh wait I guess that is all I hear coming from them.
@sargerator @FreedomRocks @kramr There's the resident ignoramus trying to use "Faux" again like he's sophisticated and clever.
He's been corrected, but, some monkeys are simply untrainable.
Like Biff from Back to the Future.
@sargerator @FreedomRocks @kramr Actually I run into people all the time who believe their views, actions, and time are more important than everyone around them.
I didn't think that was something that was specific for liberals but maybe I'm wrong.
Why actually expand your horizons and understand everything around you when you can limit yourself to a very narrow perspective of distorted views and info and live in fantasy land...
@FreedomRocks @sargerator @kramr Well. we all have fantasies !
It was actually pretty funny after Juan Williams got fired for making a comment that the psychopathic leftists he worked for fired him over.
For the first two months he was on Fox news he actually seemed like he had become somewhat centralized in his beliefs. However even working for Fox after two years he's back to being a liberal drone he always was...
@sargerator @FreedomRocks @kramr Have you ever actually watched Fox news?
I see more Democrats and flaming liberals on Fox news than MSNBC.
What you don't like is having a conservative sitting across from them to argue all the crazy ideas they throw out. You just want to hear a single opinion your in full agreement with not any arguments against it so you can feel your beliefs are correct and the only legitimate ones...
 Sad your not even open to hearing both sides...
@FreedomRocks @sargerator @kramr Is that because "all of the other combined new stations" have so many republicon ex governors, prez candidates and whitehouse staff on their network...oh...wait..thats fauxe nooze right ?
"You don't want to have to choose between, Let's see, do I close funding for the disabled kid or the poor kid? Do I close this Navy shipyard or some other one?"
I have an idea. Stop spending a hundred billion dollars on nuclear waste storage facilities and then defunding them. Stop giving billions of dollars to Egypt AND Israel. Stop building drone bases in Africa.
Stop the $750,000,000 Navy drone development program you funded in 2012 and advertised in Air Jobs Digest.
The Republicans are wallowing in sins of their own, but, they took their political lumps for it. It's time for America to clean the Democrat side of the house now too. These people are as corrupt as any Wall Street banker they still haven't held accountable or put in prison.
It's unbelievable that our president would say  "You don't want to have to choose between, Let's see, do I close funding for the disabled kid or the poor kid?".when neither is necessary to do. For Obama to suggest that there is absolutely no fat to cut, no excessive funding, no Solara type schemes that could be cut is just idiotic.Â
@last boyscout ... every time he opens his mouth he just further reinforces his disdain for the American People...and how STUPID he really thinks we are....of course there is that 47% that is - --
@last boyscout Pretty sad but it shows you that he has absolutely no desire to cut a single dime in spending.
@FreedomRocks @last boyscout So are you part of the headline in this article ?
http://www.newrepublic.com/blog/jonathan-cohn/110606/obama-deficit-reduction-offer-spending-cut-tax-increase-boehner#
This one might be too complicated for you ? Afterall it has links to all statements, even fauxe nooze !
http://mediamatters.org/research/2013/01/03/media-ignore-past-spending-cuts-in-reports-on-b/192008
@sargerator @FreedomRocks @last boyscout Oh yes, lets source media matters -- a well known George Soros AKA liberal website. Â
Find a real credible source.
@sargerator @FreedomRocks @last boyscout It's identical to what the local school districts do when they say they're taking a 5%% cut. What they really mean is that 20%% increase was reduced to a 15%% increase.
Anyone with any real morals and values would not be able to look someone in the face and call an increase of 20%%Â dropped down to 15%% a 5%% cut in their budget...
@sargerator @FreedomRocks @last boyscout Oh please... Obama did not propose any real cuts it was a very very slight decrease in the overall huge increase in spending and he called it a cut...