Obama, Romney both see reasons to worry in Florida

APOPKA, Fla. (AP) — President Barack Obama and Republican Mitt Romney have this in common when it comes to Florida: They're both worried about the biggest election battleground prize.
The president has an edge here, but Democrats fear the advantage may be fleeting and fret about Florida's undecided voters. They're also nervous about legal battles over state voter laws that could cut into Obama's support among minorities.
Republicans are concerned that Romney hasn't closed the deal in a state hampered by joblessness and home foreclosures, even though he's cast himself as the economic fixer and, along with his allies, has spent significant money and time here.
The state is especially critical for Romney.
With his paths limited toward the 270 electoral votes needed to win the White House, Romney's chances are far more difficult if he doesn't claim Florida's enormous cache of 29. That explains why he's starting to pour even more money into television commercials here now that he has access to general election funds. Both campaigns expect Republicans to outspend Democrats on the airwaves in the final weeks of the race in a state that already has seen each side spend roughly $60 million on TV ads.
The situation in Florida — and the campaigns' anxieties about it — reflects the overall state of the presidential race.
A new smattering of polls shows Obama ahead by several percentage points in key states including Florida, Ohio and Virginia, as well as nationally. The clock is ticking toward November, Obama clearly has momentum on his side and Romney faces dwindling opportunities to change the race's trajectory.
Without Florida, Romney would have to win all of the states that are leaning his way, as well as all of the others that Obama won four years ago but now are too close to call — Ohio, Virginia, Iowa, Colorado, Nevada and New Hampshire — and still pick up two more electoral votes elsewhere, in states that are even more difficult. The uncertainty of Florida partly explains why Romney now is making a play for Wisconsin. That state, which offers 10 electoral votes, has voted for Democrats for decades, but the GOP has seen down-ballot success there lately and Romney running mate Paul Ryan lives there.
Obama already has far more states — and, thus, electoral votes — in his likely-winners column. Because of that edge, he can hold the White House without Florida as long as he wins most of the other toss-up states. His standing has suffered here along with the state's economy, four years after he won the state by cobbling together a coalition of Hispanics, African-Americans and independents to go with other Democrats.
This year, undecided voters, and those not entirely sold on their candidates, may well tip the balance here. Few seem hot on either contender. And most say the economy is Issue No. 1 in a state whose 8.8 percent unemployment rate is among the highest in the nation, as is its foreclosure rate.
Kathy Belcher, a Democrat from Apopka, is leaning toward Obama but says she would be willing to give Romney a chance if he offered more details on the economy and health care.
"It seems with Obama, people are getting a handout," Belcher said. So, she added, she's considering voting for Romney if he can assure her that won't happen under him. "But that hasn't happened."
Donna Sprenkle, a registered Republican from Apopka, plans to vote for Romney — reluctantly. She doesn't think he's explained well enough how he would fix the economy.
"I know somebody just can't overnight bring it back," Sprenkle said.
These are among the persuadable voters Obama, Romney and their top surrogates are courting as they make weekly campaign stops in Florida. Both candidates are expected to visit next week as the latest public poll — an NBC News/Wall Street Journal/Marist Poll released Thursday — shows Obama with a 49 percent to 44 percent advantage over Romney.
Democrats caution that the numbers could change. And some party insiders who expect the race to come down to three states — Florida, Ohio and Virginia — say it's still Florida that concerns them the most given the state's unpredictable voting patterns. Republican George W. Bush won the state twice, including in the 2000 recount, before Obama won it four years ago.
"Even with all of the missteps by Romney, Obama hasn't been able to put it away," said Steve Vancore, a Florida-based Democratic pollster. "There's still time for this to change."
Romney aides argue that convincing voters Obama is to blame for the state's weak economy is the Republican's best chance of winning Florida. To press its economic message, Romney is running an ad here that emphasizes the housing crisis and argues that Florida voters aren't better off than they were four years ago. More ads are expected on housing and the economy through the fall.
Romney's team doesn't mention that Republicans governed the state before, during and after the recession.
"What is somewhat troublesome is that, with the economy the way it is, Romney isn't doing better," said Alex Patton, a Republican consultant in Florida. He suggests Romney broaden his pitch to other issues, saying: "He needs a little extra push."
That may come in the form of more TV ad dollars.
Obama's campaign hopes to counter that GOP cash infusion with an extensive registration and get-out-the-vote operation that includes more than 80 field offices across the state. Romney's campaign has 47 offices in Florida.
But Democrats worry that their efforts could be hampered by the legal wrangling in Florida over early-voting and voter-registration laws. Florida voters across the state will probably be limited to no more than eight days of early voting, down from 14 days in 2008. Obama's advantage among people who voted early was one of his keys to victory.
The state's GOP-led Legislature and Republican governor also instituted new requirements on voter registration drives, including a 48-hour deadline for turning applications in to election officials. A federal judge recently blocked that provision, but same Democrats say it had already slowed their registration efforts.
Democrats also are concerned about holding their advantage with Hispanics, particularly the Puerto Rican population that's growing rapidly along the swing-voting Interstate-4 corridor in central Florida. Romney is trying to chip away at Obama's advantage with Hispanics — the Democrat carried them with 57 percent of the vote in 2008 — by accusing him of breaking his promise of comprehensive immigration reform.
Obama backers say Romney may have an easier time softening the president's support among Jewish voters in Democratic-friendly South Florida, some of whom question Obama's commitment to Israel. The GOP has fodder, including the Democratic convention fight over including a reference in the party platform to Jerusalem being Israel's capital, an apparent split between Obama and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Iran, and the tumultuous events at U.S. embassies in the Middle East.
Democrats had been hoping to narrow the GOP's advantage among seniors after Romney chose Ryan as his running mate. The Wisconsin congressman is the architect of a controversial budget proposal that includes an overhaul of Medicare. But strategists in both parties say Republicans appear to have mitigated that risk by aggressively countering Democratic criticism on Medicare just after Ryan was picked.
Associated Press Deputy Director of Polling Jennifer Agiesta contributed to this report. Follow Julie Pace at http://twitter.com/jpaceDC.
Copyright 2012 The Associated Press.
The list of senior terrorists killed during the Obama presidency is fairly extensive.
Thereâs Osama bin Laden, of course, killed in May.
Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) leader Anwar al-Awlaki as of today.
Earlier this month officials confirmed that al Qaedaâs chief of Pakistan operations, Abu Hafs al-Shahri, was killed in Waziristan, Pakistan.
In August, âAtiyah âAbd al-Rahman, the deputy leader of al Qaeda was killed.
In June, one of the groupâs most dangerous commanders, Ilyas Kashmiri, was killed in Pakistan. In Yemen that same month, AQAP senior operatives Ammar al-Waâili, Abu Ali al-Harithi, and Ali Saleh Farhan were killed. In Somalia, Al-Qaâida in East Africa (AQEA) senior leader Harun Fazul was killed.
Administration officials also herald the recent U.S./Pakistani joint arrest of Younis al-Mauritani in Quetta.
Going back to August 2009, Tehrik e-Taliban Pakistan leader Baitullah Mahsud was killed in Pakistan.
In September of that month, Jemayah Islamiya operational planner Noordin Muhammad Top was killed in Indonesia, and AQEA planner Saleh Ali Saleh Nabhan was killed in Somalia.
Then in December 2009 in Pakistan, al Qaeda operational commanders Saleh al-Somali and âAbdallah Saâid were killed.
In February 2010, in Pakistan,  Taliban deputy and military commander Abdul Ghani Beradar was captured; Haqqani network commander Muhammad Haqqani was killed; and Lashkar-e Jhangvi leader Qari Zafar was killed.
In March 2010, al Qaeda operative Hussein al-Yemeni was killed in Pakistan, while senior Jemayah Islamiya operative Dulmatin  - accused of being the mastermind behind the 2002 Bali bombings â was killed during a raid in Indonesia.
In April 2010, al Qaeda in Iraq leaders Abu Ayyub al-Masri and Abu Omar al-Baghdadi were killed.
In May, al Qaedaâs number three commander, Sheik Saeed al-Masri was killed.
In June 2010 in Pakistan, al Qaeda commander Hamza al-Jawfi was killed.
Remember when Rudy Giuliani warned that electing Barack Obama would mean that the U.S. played defense, not offense, against the terrorists?
If this is defense, what does offense look like?
-Jake Tapper
Mitt save us from obama.......he has done terrible things to America.
sort, you notice that robme's signs are in spanish in the backgorund. What does that tell you about mitt. I thought you pubes were for English as the offical language? I keep telling you guys about mitt and his religon but your not listening.
 @sortbait Like you did to the sock puppet I am So telling your mom.....
I can't stop laughing.
>'Kathy Belcher, a Democrat from Apopka, is leaning toward Obama but says she would be willing to give Romney a chance if he offered more details on the economy and health care.'
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It reminds me of the Saxton campaign a few years back here in OR. The only definitive position that Ron (and the GOP) could come up with was 'we can do better'. He offered vague ideas, and a bazillion reasons that Kulongoski was to blame for everything wrong with OR, but that was it.Â
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To this point, I've heard nothing from either Romney or Ryan that doesn't sound like a rerun of that campaign. Blame the incumbent for all the countries ills, and repeat ad nauseam how 'we can do better'. Then, be vague and ambiguous whenever someone presses you for specifics about how your proposals would actually work, and segue back into the preceeding two campaign points.Â
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I will say this, I'm putting a lot of weight on the upcoming debates. They are about the only opportunity that we will have to actually press the two candidates for actual substanitive answers to questions. Unfortunately, the reality will likely be that they will both be so groomed that the answers will hardly be substanitive.Â
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Of course, I live in Oregon. As such, my electoral college votes will be going for President Obama... regardless of who I vote for. Doesn't matter anyway, the Presidential election is decided by the time the polls close E of the Mississippi.
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Maybe a little time spent reading detailed policy outlines on policy issues would help. Speeches are not the place to do that.  Try  http://www.mittromney.com/issues for some ideas. We all know what Obama has in mind.  Would be nice for him to have done a budget that even his own Democrats will approve. It is the job of the president to present one and Congress to approve of it.
 @erudite LOL.... His campaign website? Really? It's nothing more than a high-tech version of push polling. EVERY page, without exception, does 3 things.Â
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1) Exactly what I'm referring to, it gives vague and ambiguous proposals.
2)Finds a way to link any given problem to President Obama.
3)Ripe with catchphrase advertising. Comments like 'death tax' and 'obamacare'.
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About the only substanitive proposal that would effectively encroach upon the debt is his proposal to raise the retirement age. And, lets face it, with the power of the AARP on capitol hill that proposal would probably never make it into law.Â
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No, erudite, Mr Romneys campaign advertising website isn't a source for any type of clarity on his positons. Other than, 'we can do better' and 'it's all Obamas fault'.
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Mitt has over 400 million more vote then Obama..
Oh Wait those are dollars Oh well same thing in mitts eyes....
Corporations are people too my friend...
 @cptmac11 If Unions are 'people', then corporations are people.
 @last boyscout So if workers are people then banks and wall street thieves are too???
Wow that's epic even for you....
But are they real Americans????Â
Santorum said to the republicans ...""We will never have the smart people on our side""
Wow that so sums up the entire fox news republican party people and rush leading the ship over the cliff
Your republican party at work for you???
http://youtu.be/0n5oa55EsmI
Mitt has my vote. I will not vote for a President that is out smirking and campaigning while our embassies are being overrun and attacked in multiple countries. Seriously? WTF is he thinking?
He's probably thinking that he needs to get re-elected so that robme doesn't get behind the wheel and screws the country worse then chucklenuts bush did
 @swimmer chucklenuts bush......
Now there's a gold medal winner we cannot deny.....
IMO Governor Romney isn't way ahead in the polls because the republican platform has gone so incredibly to the right it's like something from the 19th century. They have nothing to offer but more tax cuts for the rich, taking equal rights away from woman, denying equal rights to gays, and they're chomping at the bit for another round of war in the Middle East.To appeal to independents,Governor Romney has to move to the center, however he is boxed in by the hard core ultra right wing base of the Republican Party. He has no room to maneuver. They have effectively castrated him. They still haven't realized that his incredible lack of effectiveness is only symptomatic of the real problem, themselves.
nonefy, i agree but disagree in that i believe the reason he is boxed in is because of the coward this romeny is.  He continues to flip flop on issues and ideas faster then the papers can print his statements. no one really knows except the dog-and he ain't going on the roof again so, i haven't seen anything like romeny the coward before. the guy is schizo
 @swimmer ... you are so loathsome...,,.
come on kheb. answer me. I'm getting tired of waiting. I got the chairs set out and everything. I'm just waiting for noneof to bring it.Â
Really?
@swimmer OUCH lol
Proof that  you can't fix stupid...
@swimmer How about this one...
Santorum said to the republicans ...""We will never have the smart people on our side""
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You got it cptmac!   Four more years of record welfare recipients, four more years of GM and Solyndra disasters, fore more years of apologizing to Islamic nations and the North Korean's, four more years of 8.0 and above unemployment. You bet. That's what we all want.
@last boyscout Gee do you think the damage bush did will last that long??
I mean without republican obstructionism that is....??
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Will the real mitt please stand up ???????
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nice post. romeny is a flake
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 @cptmac11  @Numnutz000 ...OMG, I can't believe I agree with you on anything but here it is...just this time.
Not to worry. Reagan was  14  points behind Jimmy Carter at this time in that presidential election, and Reagan still took Carter by a landslide. What does that mean? It means polls are of no importance. Just ask Jimmy Carter.
This will warm the hearts of those that care about this Country...
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this warms my heart  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anJohERLvloÂ
Even though the pollsters are sampling democrats with a 9 point advantage, it's still hard to believe Obama is ahead of Romney. But then, most of those voters are more familiar with the cast of 'Jersey Shore' than they are with Obama's cabinet. No surprise here. Â
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The Road to 270 (based on 2012 Electoral Votes) VotesRemainingMust Win (for 270) Democrats20169--171 Winning Combinations » Republicans19179--161 Winning Combinations »New! Ties 32 Tie Combinations »When 12 or fewer states remain unselected (tan color) on the above 2012 map, you will see the number of possible combinations remaining to get each party's candidate to 270 Electoral Votes. Click the link provided to see each winning combination.
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Well, it looks like you have actually read something and checked the facts.  Good; then you see my comments were based on fact - not hype or bias like the article.   That's ahead of the AP article which is inaccurate: The sole point I made and you didn't appear to understand.  Glad to have been of help.
obama up on robme by 8 to 10 points (cnn). even the pubes are backing away from this coward
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..you better check again...things are a changing.  Better yet, if you want the facts and truth be careful which polls you check...even better, stick with whichever one you are using.  We'll let ya know 7 Nov what happened.
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if you think that the 5% of the rich pubes are going to vote for romeny your barking up the wrong tree.Â
@KHEB But did you hear them in the background yell Action..
or que the mitt...
Oh, you mean like this?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anJohERLvlo . Ya I think I got more then you got. That's o.k. to be jealous.
@swimmer ...
CENTREVILLE, VIRGINA, GREETS THE PRESIDENT
 HALLELUJAH!!!!!! Those Virginia folks know how to  properly express themselves!!!! Â
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We need a new president......Vote obama out. Â Go Mitt
 @sortbait Yea GO somewhere else...
I hear he has ties in Swiss accounts....
"Obama already has far more states â and, thus, electoral votes â in his likely-winners column."
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What a fallacious statment!  [The and, thus makes it so.]  You *could* have fewer states and more of the electoral votes.  The number of states isn't the number of votes.    Where do they get these writers?Â
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can you explain that again in English?
Sure.  As of today --  2012 Presidential Election Interactive Map -   http://www.270towin.com/ Â
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Romney has 23 states    191 Electoral Votes
Obama has 17 states      201 Electoral Votes
Undecided are 11 states 146 Electoral Votes
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Romney has more states, Obama has more electoral votes. That's not what the article says. [Actually Romney has more states - but this is AP.]
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The article claims "more states â and, thus, electoral votes".   That is what is not so. Those are not tied together.  [If it were so Romney would have more votes.]
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Closer to home CA and its 55 electoral votes has more twice all of the votes of AZ, UT, WY, MO, and ID combined.  1 state has more than 5 other states.   It's not the number of states, but 'may be correlated' to the number of high population states.  But certainly not 'states'.
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** Special Note on states:  Washington DC is a state in the electoral system - thus 51 states.
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Boy how times change......... It time to do away with the electoral college for the very same reason it was put into place. It todays world of solid red and blue states the candidates are going to be spending their time and resources in few battleground states ignoring the rest.
Even in CA which has a boat load of electoral votes, neither candidate will spend much time there as it is a navy blue state so B HO doesn't need to spend money their and it would be a waste for Mittens as there is no way he could win.
I believe that if candidates had to battle for every vote vs battle for a state then it would give the candidate more incentive to visit each state. i.e. instead of candidates having to just battle for the independant vote in battleground states they would have to fight for the independant vote in every state.
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 @kramr Dang smart people in CA..