Obama considers weighing in on gay marriage case

WASHINGTON (AP) - The Obama administration is quietly considering urging the Supreme Court to overturn California's ban on gay marriage, a step that would mark a political victory for advocates of same-sex unions and a deepening commitment by President Barack Obama to rights for gay couples.
Obama raised expectations among opponents of the Proposition 8 ban when he declared in last month's inaugural address that gays and lesbians must be "treated like anyone else under the law." The administration has until Feb. 28 to intervene in the case by filing a "friend of the court" brief.
The Proposition 8 ballot initiative was approved by California voters in 2008 and overturned a state Supreme Court decision allowing gay marriage. Twenty-nine other states have constitutional amendments banning gay marriage, while nine states and Washington, D.C., recognize same-sex marriage.
An administration brief alone is unlikely to sway the Justices but the federal government's opinion does carry weight with the court.
A final decision on whether to file a brief has not been made, a senior administration official said. Solicitor General Donald Verrilli is consulting with the White House on the matter, said the official, speaking only on condition of anonymity because the official was not authorized to address the private deliberations publicly.
While the Justice Department would formally make the filing, the president himself is almost certain to make the ultimate decision on whether to file.
Obama has a complicated history on gay marriage. As a presidential candidate in 2008, he opposed the California ban but didn't endorse gay marriage. As he ran for re-election last year, he announced his personal support for same-sex marriage but said marriage was an issue that should be decided by the states, not the federal government.
To some, Obama's broad call for gay rights during his Jan. 21 inaugural address was a signal that he now sees a federal role in defining marriage.
"Our journey is not complete until our gay brothers and sisters are treated like anyone else under the law," Obama said during his remarks on the steps of the U.S. Capitol. "For if we are truly created equal, than surely the love we commit to one another must be equal as well."
But administration officials said Obama - a former constitutional law professor - was not foreshadowing any legal action in his remarks and was simply restating his personal belief in the right of gays and lesbians to marry.
Seeking to capitalize on growing public support for gay marriage, advocates are calling on the administration to file a broad brief not only asking the court to declare California's ban unconstitutional but also urging the Justices to make all state bans illegal.
"If they do make that argument and the court accepts it, the ramifications could be very sweeping," said Richard Socarides, an attorney and advocate.
The administration could also file a narrower brief that would ask the court to issue a decision applying only to California. Or it could decide not to weigh in on the case at all.
The Supreme Court, which will take up the case on March 26, has several options for its eventual ruling. Among them:
- The justices could uphold the state ban on gay marriage and say citizens of a state have the right to make that call.
- The court could endorse an appeals court ruling that would make same-sex marriage legal in California but apply only to that state.
- The court could issue a broader ruling that would apply to California and seven other states: Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Nevada, New Jersey, Oregon and Rhode Island. In those states, gay couples can join in civil unions that have all the benefits of marriage but cannot be married.
- The broadest ruling would be one that says the Constitution forbids states from banning same-sex unions.
For weeks, supporters and opponents of Proposition 8 have been lobbying the administration to side with them.
Last month, Theodore Olson and David Boies, lawyers arguing for gay marriage, met with Verrilli and other government lawyers to urge the administration to file a brief in the case. A few days later, Charles Cooper, the lawyer defending Proposition 8, met with the solicitor general to ask the government to stay out of the case. Those kinds of meetings are typical in a high court case when the government is not a party and is not asked by the court to make its views known.
Boies and Chad Griffin, president of the advocacy group Human Rights Campaign, also had a meeting at the White House on the case.
Ahead of next week's deadline, nearly two dozen states have filed briefs with the Supreme Court asking the Justices to uphold the California measure.
"There's a critical mass of states that have spoken out and believe states should continue to have the right to define marriage as between one man and one woman," said Jim Campbell, legal counsel for the Alliance Defending Freedom, which represents supporters of Proposition 8.
Public opinion has shifted in support of gay marriage in recent years. In May 2008, Gallup found that 56 percent of Americans felt same-sex marriages should not be recognized by the law as valid. By November 2012, some 53 percent felt they should be legally recognized.
Obama has overwhelming political support among those who support same-sex marriage. Exit polls from the November election showed that 49 percent of voters believed their states should legally recognize gay marriage. More than 70 percent of those voters backed Obama over Republican nominee Mitt Romney.
One day after the court hears the California case, the justices will hear arguments on another gay marriage case, this one involving provisions of the federal Defense of Marriage Act, known as DOMA. The act defines marriage as between a man and a woman for the purpose of deciding who can receive a range of federal benefits.
The Obama administration abandoned its defense of the law in 2011 but continues to enforce it. Because DOMA is a federal law and the government is a party to the case, the administration does not have to state its opposition through a friend of the court brief.
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Associated Press writer Mark Sherman and News Survey Specialist Dennis Junius contributed to this report.
Obama raised expectations among opponents of the Proposition 8 ban when he declared in last month's inaugural address that gays and lesbians must be "treated like anyone else under the law." The administration has until Feb. 28 to intervene in the case by filing a "friend of the court" brief.
The Proposition 8 ballot initiative was approved by California voters in 2008 and overturned a state Supreme Court decision allowing gay marriage. Twenty-nine other states have constitutional amendments banning gay marriage, while nine states and Washington, D.C., recognize same-sex marriage.
An administration brief alone is unlikely to sway the Justices but the federal government's opinion does carry weight with the court.
A final decision on whether to file a brief has not been made, a senior administration official said. Solicitor General Donald Verrilli is consulting with the White House on the matter, said the official, speaking only on condition of anonymity because the official was not authorized to address the private deliberations publicly.
While the Justice Department would formally make the filing, the president himself is almost certain to make the ultimate decision on whether to file.
Obama has a complicated history on gay marriage. As a presidential candidate in 2008, he opposed the California ban but didn't endorse gay marriage. As he ran for re-election last year, he announced his personal support for same-sex marriage but said marriage was an issue that should be decided by the states, not the federal government.
To some, Obama's broad call for gay rights during his Jan. 21 inaugural address was a signal that he now sees a federal role in defining marriage.
"Our journey is not complete until our gay brothers and sisters are treated like anyone else under the law," Obama said during his remarks on the steps of the U.S. Capitol. "For if we are truly created equal, than surely the love we commit to one another must be equal as well."
But administration officials said Obama - a former constitutional law professor - was not foreshadowing any legal action in his remarks and was simply restating his personal belief in the right of gays and lesbians to marry.
Seeking to capitalize on growing public support for gay marriage, advocates are calling on the administration to file a broad brief not only asking the court to declare California's ban unconstitutional but also urging the Justices to make all state bans illegal.
"If they do make that argument and the court accepts it, the ramifications could be very sweeping," said Richard Socarides, an attorney and advocate.
The administration could also file a narrower brief that would ask the court to issue a decision applying only to California. Or it could decide not to weigh in on the case at all.
The Supreme Court, which will take up the case on March 26, has several options for its eventual ruling. Among them:
- The justices could uphold the state ban on gay marriage and say citizens of a state have the right to make that call.
- The court could endorse an appeals court ruling that would make same-sex marriage legal in California but apply only to that state.
- The court could issue a broader ruling that would apply to California and seven other states: Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Nevada, New Jersey, Oregon and Rhode Island. In those states, gay couples can join in civil unions that have all the benefits of marriage but cannot be married.
- The broadest ruling would be one that says the Constitution forbids states from banning same-sex unions.
For weeks, supporters and opponents of Proposition 8 have been lobbying the administration to side with them.
Last month, Theodore Olson and David Boies, lawyers arguing for gay marriage, met with Verrilli and other government lawyers to urge the administration to file a brief in the case. A few days later, Charles Cooper, the lawyer defending Proposition 8, met with the solicitor general to ask the government to stay out of the case. Those kinds of meetings are typical in a high court case when the government is not a party and is not asked by the court to make its views known.
Boies and Chad Griffin, president of the advocacy group Human Rights Campaign, also had a meeting at the White House on the case.
Ahead of next week's deadline, nearly two dozen states have filed briefs with the Supreme Court asking the Justices to uphold the California measure.
"There's a critical mass of states that have spoken out and believe states should continue to have the right to define marriage as between one man and one woman," said Jim Campbell, legal counsel for the Alliance Defending Freedom, which represents supporters of Proposition 8.
Public opinion has shifted in support of gay marriage in recent years. In May 2008, Gallup found that 56 percent of Americans felt same-sex marriages should not be recognized by the law as valid. By November 2012, some 53 percent felt they should be legally recognized.
Obama has overwhelming political support among those who support same-sex marriage. Exit polls from the November election showed that 49 percent of voters believed their states should legally recognize gay marriage. More than 70 percent of those voters backed Obama over Republican nominee Mitt Romney.
One day after the court hears the California case, the justices will hear arguments on another gay marriage case, this one involving provisions of the federal Defense of Marriage Act, known as DOMA. The act defines marriage as between a man and a woman for the purpose of deciding who can receive a range of federal benefits.
The Obama administration abandoned its defense of the law in 2011 but continues to enforce it. Because DOMA is a federal law and the government is a party to the case, the administration does not have to state its opposition through a friend of the court brief.
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Associated Press writer Mark Sherman and News Survey Specialist Dennis Junius contributed to this report.
Obama knows which side his bread is buttered on, he owes his lib hollyweird friends a bunch and not to mention the homosexual crowd that got him reelected. Transparency, yup I see right through ya.
I cannot believe what a disgrace this country has become. Â What is wrong with people today? Â Why do they exhibit such lack of comprehension of the basic principle of right vs. wrong? Â People, do ANY of you know or understand what a PAIR is? Â It is two things, people, etc.. that BELONG together. Â Like a PAIR of socks, a pair of shoes, etc... Â In terms of couples, a PAIR is a MAN and a WOMAN. Â They belong together. Â They were DESIGNED that way physiologically. Â Men DO NOT belong with other men! Women do not belong with other women! Â I am appalled daily at the lack of common sense and the increase in stupidity, tolerance, entitlements, etc... that are being shown in this country. Â If something is WRONG, then have the guts to stand up and say, "No, this is just wrong." Â Allowing people of the same sex to marry and further dilute our society is just intolerable. Â Gay sex leads to health issues in almost all cases. Â I guess then it is ok for Johnny and Jimmy as 8 year-olds to make out in school, right? Â You people need to wake up and STOP tolerating stuff because it sounds like it is FAIR. Â Life IS NOT fair, it will never be FAIR. Â Stop whining and tolerating and do the RIGHT THING.
@Reeldeal101 ---extra likes for the comment.
You are welcome to leave. There are a number of countries in the Middle East who agree with you 100%. Go there.
@oh4FSHow about this? Â YOU go there. Â I was born, here, educated here, and I am NOT one of the people that are sucking the life out of our society. Â I'd rather not have to deal with any more people like yourself than absolutely necessary, and I'm sure everyone else would appreciate it too.... Next time try making a decent argument. Â Thanks for playing. Â
While I appreciate the view points of our President, I do believe that our US Supreme Court will weigh all of the facts involved in the cases pertaining to DOMA, and will rule accordingly, which I presume will result in gay-marriage bans ruled as un-constitutional.
It does not matter one way or the other if Obama weighs in on the issue. The Supreme Court will rule on DOMA this year. Being that it is a civil rights issue, not a religious issue, it is a pretty simple decision and they will rule in favor of the rights of gays to marry. The arguement is over. Done. Give it a rest.
Whoaaaa boy, KATU commentors are quite conservative.Â
I support the federal government stepping in on this matter. Normally, I'd say "leave it up to the State!" But, in this matter, I can't accept the opinion of voters within these states. From my perspective, they are voting to repress a minority. And the majority of them are doing so based on the Bible. I'm anti-crazy organized religion before I'm pro- anything else.
I understand my opinion may be unpopular. But, I'm cool with that.
@Morticae So you're in favor of King Obama over-riding what the voters of this country want?Â
To hell with what the citizens want- The king knows best.Â
To hell with the concept of "states rights" let the king reign!Â
Wait... Didn't we have a war about this already?? Hummm.Â
@cwpholder But King Bush was able to steamroll the entire country in removing rights in the name of the "Patriot Act" and begin racial profiling at airports.
@cwpholder Obama isn't over riding anything, he is mulling over filing a ""friend of the court" brief.
And I'm a bit perplexed by your advocating states rights, yet then asking if we had "a war about this already". How did that turn out again?
@JTesla I was referring to both the Revolutionary & civil wars but It really doesn't matter at this point.. The Supreme Court has expanded the power of congress and stomped states sovereignty into the dirt by improperly interpreting the Commerce Clause in many cases.Â
While I believe the south was WRONG as far as slavery goes, I believe they were right in trying to preserve states rights. The civil war was as much about states rights as it was slavery.
In any case, "we the people" should still mean something. This country was set up as a democratic REPUBLIC. The republic portion has been all but forgotten. Â
Weigh in on amnesty for illegal aliens - check
Weigh in on gay marriage - check
Weigh in on anthro "global warming" - check
Ok. He's got all the special interests covered.....like any good activist liberal politician.
@timburr I haven't heard of him kissing the NRAs pimpled butt
@pdxdCorrection. Like any good activist liberal politician, he's got all the politically correct special interests covered.
@pdxd Guns don't exist in Utopia.
@pdxd True. He's been too busy, bit by bit, hacking away at the Second Amendment to the Constitution.
"Our journey is not complete until our gay brothers and sisters are treated like anyone else under the law," Obama said during his remarks on the steps of the U.S. Capitol. "For if we are truly created equal, than surely the love we commit to one another must be equal as well." Although I don't agree with the President on all of his policies,this is one subject that I support him 100% Thank you Mr.President for supporting equality and basic fairness.BTW my vote for the President was a personal statement of my opposition to everything that the religous right stands for.
And still- I'm gay and you gotta love me
@Bert Are you really gay?
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@dr. rawdog He's not fabulously gay like me.
No cupcakes for obama
Who does he think he is the President??
Oh Wait...
If Obama wants gay marriage to happen, he'll keep his mouth shut.
People are so mad at Obama and Congress right now that they'll resist legislation just because these people bring it up.  He's got more important things to do.
Except, Obama has a high approval rating at the moment, so I don't see where you're getting your statistics from unless when you say "people' you actually mean a "fraction of people"
@Playanekes With the the polls at 52% in favor and 46% opposed, that doesn't quite add up to "People are so mad at Obama...."  Congress, on the other hand, has the polls at 14% in favor, 82% opposed.  There's a large constituency of religious Black Americans who need a nudge or two to support same-sex marriage, as are many Latino Catholics.  My hunch would be that he's reaching out to those who might be swayed by his support.  He doesn't need mine, I'm already there. Â
@Sundowner @Playanekes Here you are addressing only special groups... blacks, hispanics, gays. You are telling me that america is not united, but made up of special groups that see themselves better than any other group. obama has succeeded in splitting america up into voter blocks, or special interest groups better than any other president. I guess you can say he has succeeded in something.
@Razor1, nope you're confusing this with Bush again, during 2004 when he decided to use gay marriage to divide the country into two very distinct groups, and then with the help of the Swiftboat Veterans anti-Kerry sentiment, took the 2004 election.
@Razor1 @Playanekes  Well, that's one way of reading into my comment much that I didn't say.  Are you saying you're just noticing American isn't united?  Oh, what a shocker.  Since our politics are mainly broken into two sides with many, many blocks within each, how do you lay blame on President Obama?  He didn't start the 2-party system, he didn't break each party into various 'special interest groups'.  With almost every issue it ends up one side pro, one side con.  Perhaps you're one who has succeeded in remaining in opposition to everything he says or does -- shall we blame you?  If you were against him from his first election bid, seems pretty obvious you had your mind made up before he ever started....sounds like you're as much of the problem as the rest of us.  And finally, why would he go out to groups of people who already support same-sex marriage?  Â
How about "weighing in" on 4 dollars a gallon gasoline for people who are making minimum wage......may I also add "As he ran for re-election last year, he announced his personal support for same-sex marriage but said marriage was an issue that should be decided by the states, not the federal government."
Make up your mind, Barry. It would be easier to speak if you weren't always trying to talk out of both sides of your mouth at the same time. You can't please everyone so quit trying to get in good with every special interest group out there..
@shadowwalker He sounds like a true q*eer biscuit politician.Â
Worst job in the country. Â Being the guy programming obama's teleprompter. Â Because he bounces from one thing to another so often and talks out of both sides of his mouth on a regular basis, it would be a tough job figuring which lie or threat to put on the machine next. Â One easy part would be putting "blame Bush" on it several times no matter what speech he is giving.
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@Reeldeal101Â I love to read comments about President Obama using a teleprompter. Â Every president since Lyndon Johnson has used one (YOU try giving about 200+ speeches a year without one, Mr. 'Reeldeal'). Â And where did the concern about him reading a speech come from? Â Why, your good friends Steve, Gretchen and Brian at FoxNews.....who read a teleprompter to b|tch, whine, moan groan and complain about Obama using a teleprompter. Â Oh, the irony is glorious.
@Shadow You must be a realist to think or remember that bush messed up so much while in office..Â
@uknow2 @Shadow And messed up WITH the same teleprompters.  Funny how easily that's forgotten.
@Dr. Rawdog @uknow2 @Shadow Jon Stewart had a funny bit with Rubio's speech -- Photoshopped him getting a drink with a garden hose "like Rubio's gardener uses".  Good stuff.Â
if i was gay my wedding would have a Deliverance theme.Â
If we all become gay, then we won't be able to reproduce without machines!
@portlandborn83Â There is very little chance of that happening.....:)
@portlandborn83 Who said everyone would become gay?
@portlandborn83Â I've never seen a female Oompa Loompa, have you?
@Festivus @portlandborn83 No, but I have seen a female Jabba The Hut.....;)...lol or at least proof that Jabba did reproduce...
This will help his third term
How many strokes did tiger give him
The Supreme Court, I hope, will make their decision based upon law and the Constitution. Not from the political urging of the Executive Branch. That is why the founding fathers invented the three separate branches of government.
@Saltire Which would be the right thing by striking down DOMA and prop 8 as unconstitutional.I applaud the President for supporting equality for gay American citizens.
@noneofyourbizznessNot a problem with the President's support, just don't lobby the Supreme Court like it is Congress.
We will all see what the decisions of the court are in June. DOMA will most likely be found to be unconstitutional. I don't know enough about the Prop 8 to make a guess. But, who knows what the judges will determine. Â
@Saltire Did they create the greed branch??Â
Because they are the ones making all the decisions..
Holy cr@p, BHO, would it kill you to actually focus on somethng that matters at the Federal level? Keep your stupid nose out of the state's business.
By the way Barack, since you're so anxious to chat to the press, why don't you come clean for once, and tell us where you were for those (seven hours) 5pm to midnight on Sept. 11 during the Benghazi attack? Why are you hiding the facts from the American public? You're making Bush look like a boy scout.Â
@last boyscout He'll NEVER do that. That would affirm his ignorance and deceit and enable him to be impeached.
@last boyscout Exactly!