Ore. fuel companies will have to report emissions

PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) - Large fuel producers that operate in Oregon will have to begin tracking and reporting the lifetime carbon emissions from their fuels.
Oregon's Environmental Quality Commission approved the rule on Friday. It's the first phase of implementing a 2009 law that aims to reduce the carbon content of transportation fuels by 10 percent below 2010 levels.
Fuel companies opposed the rule, saying the state was rushing the process. They'll have to track pollution over a fuel's entire life cycle, including the electricity used to produce it and the fuel used to transport it to Oregon.
State environmental regulators say they won't force fuel providers to begin reducing carbon emissions until the Legislature signs off.
Copyright 2012 The Associated Press.
Just another ridiculous regulation in the nanny state. Oregon's anti-business philosophy is alive and well.  Â
The Environmental Quality Commission took a page from the obozo EPA regulation/anti-job creation book. If they don't like a business, for whatever asinine reason, then they will regulate it so much, that it is just easier to go out of business rather than trying to fight it..
All of this tax waste to support more garbage in our gasoline, causing consumers to burn more of the less effective more expensive fuel mixtures. Ethanol does not cut pollution when mixed with gasoline, simply because you must burn more of the mix for the same energy of regular gas. The real fact is that the ethanol industry would dry up and blow away if the government wouldn't force us to use it. Ethanol is a very pore energy source. The use of ethanol also adversely effects the prices in the food chain.
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Perhaps we should be measuring the CO2 coming from the legislature.
What an asinine idea .
Just another example of the never-ending growth of bureaucracy and the government spending that it costs.
What a stupid idea.....next thing you know state regulators will be standing outside of taco bell keeping track of customers when they leave.
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Just think how this  money could go to something useful like education instead of keeping track of this nonsense.
dear al gore, if you're not to fat over weight still, then in the back on my car is a pipe,
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you know what to do by now.
For the state regulators SO concerned about climate change, carbon footprint, fuel consumption..Â
I'd like to hear what those same state regulators know about the role of water vapor as it factors in to estimates/predictions of climate change.  I hear  WAY TOO MUCH emphasis on CO2, but hardly anything about the role of water vapor (and, yes, it does factor in to the discussion in an integral way too).
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Even things as basic to the discussion of 'global climate change' as spectral radiant exitance are not easy to directly measure and accurately observing / estimating such things over large areas can be quite complex.
And that is just one basic variable in an equation having hundreds or thousands of similar variables.
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Not all atmospheric scientists agree that a). climate change is actually occurring, and/or b). similarly, not all agree it is occurring at the rate presumed by the adherents [assuming they buy into the theory at all]. Â
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While there are armies of environmental adherents lined up to push a theory upon millions of their fellow citizens, I would recommend they spend a couple of semesters in a few university courses such as: Weather and Climate, Hydrology, Vegetation/Soils, Atmospheric Physics , etc., and finally, if you've made it that far, an advanced course in computational methods used to derive estimates of solar radiance, absorption, transmittance, exitance, etc. Because, in the end, whatever happens involves those processes and if you don't understand those processes, you CAN'T have any valid opinion nor understanding of any presumption of 'climate change'.
Also, why should we punish ourselves ('we' being Oregonians) when we 'lead the way' already -- in that, since fossil fuels generate higher levels locally of CO2, and plants/trees intake CO2 and produce O2, aren't we doing enough as a state when other states that have less vegetation but burning just as much gas maybe 'underachieving'?  Maybe we could have a voluntary  or even mandatory program to require people that use higher ('disproportionate'?) amounts of fuel to have to plant some additional trees as an alternate? Â
This will help make Oregon the dumbest, err, greenest state in the union. No businesses, no jobs, no people, just a government hungry for taxes and no one to tax...
Wow no wonder why companies don't want to start up anything in Oregon. I am imagining a day when all of the companies here get fed up and just shut down whatever production they have. Just close the doors and leave. Why bother making anything here? Especially fuel. We obviously want to punish those who provide it for us. Any type of gasoline, natural gas, heating oil or coal use drives the general populace into a bunched up panty dance. It would be humorous watching you all cry that you can't get fuel or anything else worth having. Cry me a river. All because of your fears and human-guilt over your carbon footprint (if there is such a thing). Ooooh, people baaaaad, trees gooooood. Lol!
I know...maybe we'll power our precious plug-in cars and Max toy trains with magical Portland fairy farts.
You people vote the uber-libs into office and then balk when things come back at you. Forced fluoridation for example....ha ha ha. Good for you. I hope it passes. Forced composting...fail. If it was such a great program then why do you have to truck all of the compost out to North Plains? NIMBYism in regards to the smell? If Portland was serious about being sustainable then they would find a way to handle the waste (compost) we generate here in Portland. Trucking it out simply transfers a non-resolved issue to someone else. That just says that the program is not thought completely through and is full of holes. I guess as long as you can't see it or smell it it doesn't affect you all. What a bunch of hypocrites.
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Still too many people doing business in Oregon apparently.Â
It shouldn't take too much longer to rid the state of them.
Another form of huge taxes in the form of fines. Wait-a-second, that means the gubmint needs to hire more people to enforce an insane law that we should have saw coming...