Oregon voters increasingly shun major parties

SALEM, Ore. (AP) - Oregon voters have increasingly shed their political labels since the last time they helped select a president.
Since 2008, Democratic and Republican registration has fallen, while the ranks of Independent and unaffiliated voters have swelled.
Four years ago, 76 percent of Oregon voters were members of the two major political parties, compared with 71 percent now, according to an Associated Press analysis of September data from the Secretary of State's Office. Both major parties have fewer members now than four years ago, even though total voter registration has grown.
The Democratic Party had 854,000 registered voters in September, 7 percent fewer than four years ago. Republicans saw a 2 percent decline to 672,000 voters.
A hard-fought Democratic primary and enthusiasm for Barack Obama among new voters drove Democratic registration way up in 2008, said Trent Lutz, executive director of the Democratic Party of Oregon. But this election cycle is different, he said. There's less enthusiasm among Democrats, and there's no U.S. Senate election or other high-profile race to draw the attention of voters or outside interest groups.
"We haven't had that same energy level that was there in 2008," Lutz said. "We're building it back."
Greg Leo, a spokesman for the Oregon Republican Party, said the rise in unaffiliated voters is a reflection of an independent streak among Oregon voters.
"It's not a terrible concern," he said of the smaller number of registered Republicans. "We would like to see more people register as Republicans and we think that as we win some of these races in 2012 that our registration numbers will go up."
To register for this year's election, forms must be postmarked by Tuesday. Anyone with an Oregon driver's license or state-issued identification card can register online until 11:59 p.m.
Here are some other facts about Oregon's electorate:
- Voters leaving major parties aren't embracing smaller ones. Excluding the Independent Party, Oregon's minor parties have picked up just 340 voters.
- Democrats lost voters in every county. Their steepest declines were in Gilliam and Lake counties, where they lost a fifth of Democrats, although there are fewer than 1,000 Democrats in each county.
- Republicans lost voters in about two-thirds of counties in the state, most significantly in Multnomah, where a decline of 5,000 Republicans amounted to a 7 percent drop. The GOP's sharpest increase was in Crook County, which added 252 Republicans, a 5 percent gain.
- One in five registered voters in the state lives in Multnomah County, and nearly 45 percent of voters live in the three-county region that comprises metropolitan Portland. One in 10 voters lives in Lane County.
- Wheeler County has the smallest number of voters, with 951.
- Nearly 90 percent of voters live in counties on the west side of the Cascade Mountains.
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Ballots will be mailed to registered voters on Oct. 19-23.
Learn more: Oregon Secretary of State Elections Division
In Washington, the deadline to register to vote online has passed. Voters can still register in person at their local election department until Monday, Oct. 29.
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Only idiots belong to a political party. Those that can think independently don't want to be polluted by any of the parties.
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If one thinks about it, if all of us were non affiliated then the parties would have to work harder to get our vote instead of taking the voters for granted.
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I have been an independent for decades and am glad I am not associated with those mindless fools.
If the voters are shunning the two major parties as they say, then how come they keep electing worthless people like the last two governors? Because the dumbos living in the Portland metro area and the other larger cities west of the mountains like losers and have enough population to force their stupid decisions on the rest of the state.
The title should read "The Two Major Parties, Shun the Voters For Special Interests"
"spokesman for the Oregon Republican Party, said the rise in unaffiliated voters is a reflection of an independent streak among Oregon voters."
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B.S.! It is because the two major parties have disgusting goals and methods. It really makes little difference which one is in power: Democrats want to increase spending and micromanaging every aspect of your life by 9% per year. Republicans only want to increase those by 8.9% per year.
WooHoo!! People might actually be starting to pay attention to the broken system. A nice indication of a positive first step! Everybody reading should do the same.
Get used to it. The more information comes out through sources like followthemoney.org and such groups, the more people come to realize that the two party monopoly is a BIG part of the problem with the dysfunction of our state and federal government. 99% of people who I talk to may have certain wedge issue ideologies that align themselves with one party or the other, but they find plenty of reason to not align themselves with the party as a whole. BOTH parties, and most candidate are financial whores. They will say whatever it takes to get elected, then proceed to participate in nepotistic behaviors that, as a whole, are counter-productive to the majority of voters.
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There are 3 steps that absolutely must happen if we are to return this country to a true representative democracy;
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1) Abolish the electoral college. 1 vote equals 1 vote. Period.Â
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2) End all party representations. If you want to run as a D or an R, that's your business, but the power that the two parties have over washington is obscene. It allows for people like Grover Norquist (who, last I checked was NOT an elected official) to have more authority over congressional policies than the people who are supposed to be the ultimate authority in the country. "We the people", not 'I the person' or 'we the political party'. All federal money given to parties stops.Â
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3) Term limits. 3 terms per house, 2 terms as president. If you cant get the job done in 14 years, you should step aside and let someone else do the job.Â
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There also needs to be some serious revisions to the whole election process. I've got some ideas, but there's some obvious areas with potential for abuse, and room for revision with my proposals. As it is today, the ONLY thing that gets people elected is how much money they have in their respective 'war chests'. The only thing that allows for is the same special interests to manipulate and influence the government for their cause, irrelevent of party or the net effect of those policies on the country as a whole.Â
I welcome the change but it is only a first step. Voters need to take back control of elections which are currently driven the two major parties (who represent few actual voters) who fund the campaigns at a level necessary to get elected. Oregonians may be registering less affiliation but are still electing the same two major party people despite their unhappiness. It would be nice if Oregon voters would force the two major parties to alter their platforms to reflect the typical Oregonian and then foster candidates that are more interested in being statesmen and not career politicians. I know ... wistful thinking  ...
We don't have major parties. We have a major party with a hard-conservative wing and a center-left wing. Behind the scenes the money is pretty much coming from the same sources and being given to the same people.
@Max Quinn """"" We have a major party with a hard-conservative wing and a center-left wing. Behind the scenes the money is pretty much coming from the same sources and being given to the same people."""""
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Can't the same be said for the the D party that ranges from Reagan Democrats to very liberal  progressives ????
@Max Quinn The only thing I can disagree with is the center left is really left-left but a good comment neverless.
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"Anyone with an Oregon driver's license or state-issued identification card can register online until 11:59 p.m."
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Well, in theory, that's not technically correct. Â
It should be: "Anyone with an Oregon driver's license or state-issued identification card, is a US citizen, is 18 yrs of age or older, is a legal OR resident, and does not otherwise have their voting ability officially stripped.. Â can register online until 11:59 p.m." Â Unfortunately, the writer of the story said what is fact pretty much at face value: anyone with an ODL or OR ID can register using a mere affirmation (truthful or otherwise) to register to vote in OR. ..but, do the State and County elections people ACTUALLY BOTHER TO CHECK TO SEE WHO IS LEGALLY ELIGIBLE TO VOTE or not ? (eg. cross check against other state's registration databases, check against ICE/E-Verify for citizenship/status, check against all corrections depts. databases for those incarcerated/stripped of voting rights, and of course, for birth / age confirmation???)
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Falsely registering to vote in US elections is a Federal felony violation.
You can't find instances of lawbreaking, if no one ACTIVELY looks for such instances.
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Good. The partisan bickering that is currently clogging up any meaningful legistlation is horrible.
"nearly 45 percent of voters live in the three-county region that comprises metropolitan Portland."
"The Democratic Party had 854,000 registered voters in September"
"Republicans saw a 2 percent decline to 672,000 voters."
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And THIS is why politics in Oregon will never change:
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While most of the state is busy being self-reliant, the tri-county area is busy voting their own entitlements.Â
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Haha! Yeah don't let facts get in the way of having a (wrong) opinion. Learn yourself something you uneducated fool. Poverty and government food assistance are HIGHER outside Portland...
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I guess if you make stuff up and say it often enough other dummies will believe it.
 @criticalreason  @Umhal I'm not attempting to argue your dismissal of an obvious generalization, but there is one point you should take into account when using that link.Â
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Many (if not most) of those 'entitlement' programs outside of the PMA can draw a direct line between them and the environmental lobbies who have tied up the single most abundant resources in the state (timber and fisheries).Â
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Those policies, in turn, have been enacted largely by votes that were skewed decidedly in the direction of PMA enviro-whackjobs who believe that raging wildfires and overpopulation of species is preferable to a managed harvesting of them.
 @MarkKpic No argument from me on that point!Â
 @criticalreason Always nice to hear the name calling, denotes you to be one of the truly enlightened, right? Â
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Your link is proving nothing more than (as they admit in the text you linked to) that the richer counties have less poverty *over all*. Â That should come as NO surprise to anyone - a county where the median income is nearly 60K vs a county with a median of 40K there will be more poverty in in the lower-income county. Â Did it really take a Oregon State study to point that out?
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Get a little more intricate by including cost of living, transportation costs, education level, jobs market... and you'll doubtless begin to see that I HAVE an education, and I am no fool.
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Your retort and it's innuendo are baseless and do not further the conversation in any meaningful way.Â
 @criticalreason  @Umhal Are those numbers compiled like the presidents last job numbers that accidental (it had to be an accident right....) left out CA so the numbers took a fantastic jump from 8.1 to 7.8 in unemployment. I mean just one month before the election this was had to be an accident because we all know how honest and ethical the president, government, and democratic party are.
The two-party duopoly must go! It only serves to give the APPEARANCE of choice, when both major parties really serve corporate interests.
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"Fascism should rightly be called Corporatism, as it is the merger of corporate and government power." Benito Mussolini
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Throw in the flaws of the tyranny of the majority and the irrational voter and we have major collective problems.
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Majority rule - allows for political minorities to be oppressed by the "tyranny of the majority" in the absence of legal protections of individual or group rights
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Irrational voter defined - voters that are highly uninformed about many political issues, especially relating to economics, and have a strong bias about the few issues on which they are fairly knowledgeable.
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THIS IS WHAT WE NEED:
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Proportional representation (PR) is a concept in voting systems used to elect an assembly or council. PR means that the number of seats won by a party or group of candidates is proportionate to the number of votes received. For example, under a PR voting system if 30% of voters support a particular party then roughly 30% of seats will be won by that party. PR is an alternative to voting systems based on single member districts or on bloc voting; these non-PR systems tend to produce disproportionate outcomes and to have a bias in favour of larger political groups. PR systems tend to produce a proliferation of political parties, while single member districts encourage a two-party system.
 @criticalreason That's an admirable proposal, CR.Â
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How would one go about ensuring that such a program wouldn't skew favor towards largely urban areas in voting land use and such issues?
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@HarryJuku Exactly. And it happens in every country around the world. Politics and power corrupts.
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I used to follow some of the politics in Thailand and they have parties that get disolved only to come back with the same people using a different name. I'm sure that happens elsewhere.
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Abolish all political parties. Force people to look at issues. Keep individuals' names anonymous. That would force everyone to vote based on what they think is best, not what "their" party says. Once you join a political party, the party thinks on your behalf.
In my voter pamphlet, there is political party statements for...
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Constitution Party
Independent Party
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Pacific Green Party
Progressive Party
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There is no Republican or Democrat party statements. I wonder why that is?
 @Dirtman Ya not that I would ever want to emulate France for anything but when there last year I was told by locals the have 6-8 parties and they are much more balanced so most have a fair shot at winning unlike here.
Now all we need is a viable 3rd party so we aren't always having to vote between the lesser of two evils.
@peckishpete  like third parties are  any less self serving..... remember last summer when the losertarian party tried to get Mittens off the WA ballot...... I'm all for third parties are your side of the fence LOL :)
 @peckishpete All the third parties do is kiss the butt of the main party they take votes from i.e., Libertarian/Republican and Green/Democrat.
Wrong, Gary Johnson detests the over spending by democrats, the religious right of the republican party and the obstructionism exhibited by both. Gary Johnson represents the Libertarian party.
"Voting is like checking out the stalls in a public restroom, looking for the one that's the least disgusting."
 @alohan The current two are pretty much the same, except for the color.
 @Jamie  @alohan I love that line but disagree that both are the same. It seems pretty clear the president is a pathological lying politician with few morals or ethics and his own agenda. So far Romney has left me to believe he is actually a very decent guy who has to bend the rules every now and then to have a chance of getting elected. There is an enormous difference in the character of the men if you put their politics aside. I for one will go for the guy with character and hope he does not get to corrupted by the system over the one who is a character and total corrupted before he got in the system.
so what, they will still vote for the one of the two main candidates anyways. "Oh look, I'm so independent, I'm going to register as one and still vote for the same person." God, people must look at U.S. citizens and laugh out loud.
 @on shing dao "God, people must look at U.S. citizens and laugh out loud."Â
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No. Actually, they try to move here. You may have noticed it's a problem. People aren't leaving America, and people in Greece, Germany, France, China and everywhere else don't really have much to laugh about because they've all either depended on us for survival or yielded to our mercy. People who don't like it here are free to leave. We really wish they would.
 @Playanekes They make better citizens then people born here too.
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@Tanbor Fudgely  Please enlighten me on how you values are forwarded by voting for someone with absolutely no chance of winning...... just wondering.
 @kramr  @Tanbor You sound snide and condescending but I'll enlighten you.
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If you vote for a Democrat, the Democrats assume you support all of their shenanigans and all of the things they do. If you vote Republican, you vote the same.
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They're -afraid- the they're going to lose power so they condition people like you to think that if you don't vote for one or the other you're wasting your vote, and if you don't vote for their guy you hate America and the country is doomed. It's a fairly obvious racket.
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And, here's the proof:Â Â Most people already know how they're going to vote, so all of this last-minute nonsense is for us, the indies. Not for partisans, because they're already bought and paid for. Half of you are going to vote for Romney and the other half for Obama.
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It's the middle ground that they're fighting over. That's a good place to be because if they want my vote they're going to have to earn it. Hope that helps.
@kramr the benefit for Nader voters is that I stopped the Dems from being so flippant and arrogant. After Clinton it seemed like every Dem though they personally walked on water. Your points are valid and it takes a long term commitment and sacrifice for it to work.
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It really doesn't at all answer how voting for a candidate who has no chance of winning forwards ones values. I'm not being condesending..... its a sincere question.
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Personally I have more common ground with Gary Johnson than Mittens, However I can't see wasting my vote on someone who has no chance of winning so I vote for the person who has a reasonable chance of winning  that is closest to my values and priorities. While Mittens is a far cry from being my ideal candidate, he is closer to my ideal than B HO so Mittens gets my vote. Thats my logic on why I vote for Mittens. IMHO, its impossible for my values/priorities to be forwarded by the loser of the election standing on the sidelines with no power. I would rather be on the winning side of someone that has at least a few of my values/priorities than be on the losing side of someone I really agree with because nothing is gained by voting for a known loser.
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Say for example Gary Johnson earns your vote. How specifically are your values/priorities forwarded by voting for someone who has absolutely NO chance of gaining any power.
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Or the same question from a different angle, What was the plus side to the Nader voters???  The Nader voters put the candidate MOST OPPOSITE of their values into the oval office. The same was true for Perot and will be true for Johnson.
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What was the benefit of Nader supporters voting for Nader instead of voting for Gore???? (i.e. Gore being the closest of the winable candidates to a Nader voter)
maybe people are sick and tired of the crap and are finding that things have went to  far.
Maybe it's because both main parties are starting to suck. When you are more concerned with promoting your party instead of getting the work done, you are losing focus on what you were ELECTED TO DO.
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An idea I would love to see is, having politicians work on commission. Get the stuff done, you get paid... spend an entire year stonewalling or pushing stuff that you know has no hope of passing, then you can spend the year earning nothing.
Gary Johnson FTW!
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You really mean Obama FTW....... at least thats the result of your actions.
 @kramr If you're not going to vote for Romney but you don't want Democrats to think you're any happier with them, you vote for the third party knowing that Obama might win, but at least the parties know their influence is declining. It's taken a long time, but, they're paying attention to indies now.
 @Playanekes Ya, you're going to vote for Gary Johnson, who was a Republican until a couple months ago or write-in Ron Paul, a republican. Ya, you're real independent.
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Gary Johnson ONLY polling 4-6% does NOT at all support your claim.
 @on shing dao  @Playanekes "They're still voting for political parties."
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You don't know how I vote so don't claim to.
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No one is paying attention to the rest of your comment, either.
 @Playanekes They're not independents. They're still voting for political parties. No one is paying attention to indies now. Indies just like to sound all cool and they just end up voting republican or democrat again. I'm not seeing any independents affecting the polls at all. Where's this so called influence?
 @randomdude ya good for you and 100 other people voting for him.
 @on shing dao  @randomdude On the ballot in 48 states & DC.  Received enough campaign donations to qualify for matching federal funds.  If it was only 100 people voting for him the major parties would not be suing to attempt to remove him from ballots he already qualified for. Â
@Jamie    """"""Would you care to enlighten me with the vast difference between Obama & Romney?""""
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while there is no where near the differences I'd like there to be there still are some significant differences.
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On a federal level,  B HO wants single payor health care Mittens thinks the states should handle health care NOT the feds.
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B HO thinks FEDERAL SPENDING will grow the economy, Mittens thinks Americans having more of THEIR OWN MONEY will grow the economy.
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B HO does NOT think the top 1% of tax payers paying 38cents of every tax dollar paid to the feds  is enough and wants to tax them even more. Mittens wants a tax rate decrease for EVERYONE.
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B HO is spending  recklessly with MORE THAN trillion dollar deficits WITH NO indication of reining in spending. Mittens has promised to get spending in line with money coming in. Picking Ryan supports that promise.
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If you saw the first debate, Jim noted several notable differences between the two.
 @kramr The two that do stand a chance at winning are exactly the same in almost every regard. Would you care to enlighten me with the vast difference between Obama & Romney?
@SerenityWow @on shing dao @randomdude    SW and randomdude  just wondering how your agenda/values are forwarded by voting for someone with absolutely 0% chance of winning?Â
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RP was the candidate I agreed wtih the most, but living in the world of reality, there are ONLY TWO candidates that have any chance of winning. Â
Hell,  why settle for  voting for Gary Johnson, why not vote for Ronald Reagan..... the effect is eactly the same.
 @on shing dao  @randomdude It's a lot more than 100.