Romney: Nearly half 'believe they are victims'

WASHINGTON (AP) - Already scrambling to steady a struggling campaign, Republican Mitt Romney confronted a new headache Monday after a video surfaced showing him telling wealthy donors that almost half of all Americans "believe they are victims" entitled to extensive government support. He added that as a candidate for the White House, "my job is not to worry about those people."
At a hastily called news conference late in the day, Romney offered no apologies for his remarks and when he was asked if he was concerned he had offended anyone, he conceded the comments weren't "elegantly stated" and they were spoken "off the cuff."
President Barack Obama's campaign quickly seized on the video, obtained by the magazine Mother Jones and made public on a day that Romney's campaign said it needed a change in campaign strategy to gain momentum in the presidential race. Romney aides were already working behind the scenes to calm dissension in the GOP ranks and reassure nervous donors and consultants about the state of a race some Republicans worry may be getting away from their nominee.
"There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what," Romney is shown saying in a video posted online by the magazine. "There are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe that government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it."
"Forty-seven percent of Americans pay no income tax," Romney said.
Romney said in the video that his role "is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."
In his remarks to reporters before a fundraiser Monday night in Costa Mesa, Calif., Romney did not dispute the authenticity of the hidden-camera footage, but he called for the release of the full video, instead of the clips posted online. He sought to clarify his remarks but did not apologize.
"It's not elegantly stated, let me put it that way. I was speaking off the cuff in response to a question. And I'm sure I could state it more clearly in a more effective way than I did in a setting like that," Romney said. "Of course I want to help all Americans. All Americans have a bright and prosperous future."
About 46 percent of Americans owed no federal income tax in 2011, although many of them paid other forms of taxes. More than 16 million elderly Americans avoid federal income taxes solely because of tax breaks that apply only to seniors, according to the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center.
Obama's campaign called the video "shocking"
"It's hard to serve as president for all Americans when you've disdainfully written off half the nation," Obama campaign manager Jim Messina said in a statement.
An Obama adviser said the Democratic campaign might use Romney's comments from the fundraising video in television advertisements. The official wasn't authorized to discuss campaign strategy publicly and requested anonymity.
Romney's 2010 federal tax returns show he paid a tax rate of about 14 percent on an annual income of $21 million. The vast majority of his income came from investments, which are taxed at a lower rate than wages. His wealth has been estimated as high as $250 million.
Democrats have tried to make an issue of what Romney pays in taxes and what he is willing to divulge about his taxes and investments. While he has released his 2010 tax returns and a summary of his 2011 returns, he has rejected calls for releasing as many as 10 years of tax returns. His campaign has pledged to release his complete 2011 returns before the election Nov. 6.
The private remarks are the latest in a string of comments from the multimillionaire Republican businessman whom Democrats have criticized as out of touch. During the primary campaign, Romney insisted that he was "not concerned" about the very poor, said he knew what it felt like to worry about being "pink-slipped," and said that his wife drove a "couple of Cadillacs." Aides to Obama's campaign said the latest video would help them continue to make the case that Romney doesn't understand the concerns of average Americans.
Romney said he would not shy away from the message behind the remarks — that Obama believes in a "government-centered society."
"It's a message which I am going to carry and continue to carry, which is that the president's approach is attractive to people who are not paying taxes because, frankly, my discussion about lowering taxes isn't as attractive to them," Romney said. "Therefore I'm not likely to draw them into my campaign as effectively as those in the middle."
Voters say they believe Obama has a better understanding of their problems and concerns than Romney does. A CBS/New York Times poll showed 60 percent of likely voters said Obama understands the needs and problems of people like them, while 37 percent said he did not. For Romney, the same question found that 46 percent felt he did understand people's needs, 48 percent said he didn't.
Mother Jones writer David Corn told MSNBC that the video came from a May 17 fundraiser at the Boca Raton, Fla., home of Marc Leder, co-CEO of the investment firm Sun Capital Partners.
The magazine had said earlier that the date and location of the remarks were not being disclosed to protect the identity of the person who provided the video. On MSNBC, Corn said the source had allowed those details to be released.
Many of the Americans who owe no income tax are reprieved because basic exemptions — such as the "standard deduction" — took their taxable income below the cutoff levels. The other half rely mainly on a variety of tax breaks, such as the credit that helps offset child care costs.
These Americans range from the very poor to solidly middle-class families with jobs, homes, cars and vacations. The Tax Policy Center says "relatively few nontaxable households" have incomes exceeding $100,000; families that make between $50,000 and $100,000 often owe no income tax because of breaks for their kids and for education.
Americans who pay no federal income tax still often pay an array of other taxes. They include payroll taxes for Social Security and Medicare, sales taxes, property taxes and state and local taxes.
A handful of extremely wealthy families do not pay federal income taxes. This summer the Internal Revenue Service reported that six of the 400 highest-earning households in America owed no federal income tax in 2009.
Still, many are low-income Americans. According to the August 2010 AP-GfK poll, a majority of Americans who make less than $30,000 a year are Democrats. But 27 percent identify as Republicans, and 15 percent say they're independents. About 57 percent say they will vote for Obama, while 38 percent back Romney. About 43 percent identify themselves as conservatives.
Obama faced a similar moment in the 2008 campaign, when he told donors that many Americans who are angry about their struggles "cling to their guns or religion."
Romney's running mate, Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan, made reference to that remark Monday at a campaign event in Des Moines, Iowa.
"I remember that one time when he was talking to a bunch of donors in San Francisco and he said people like us, people from the Midwest like to cling to their guns and religion," Ryan said.
Ryan went on: "And I've got to tell you this Catholic deer hunter is guilty as charged and proud to say so. That's just weird. Who says things like that? That's just strange."
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Associated Press deputy polling director Jennifer Agiesta in Washington and Associated Press writers Ken Thomas in Los Angeles, David Pitt in Des Moines, Iowa, and Charles Babington, Philip Elliott and Julie Pace in Washington contributed to this report.
Copyright 2012 The Associated Press.
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Just remember....iromney is a "victim" too. Seems like when a republiCON makes a statement they are talking about themselves and their own weakness !!
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"In fact, government documents on the bailout obtained by Rolling Stone show that the legend crafted by Romney is basically a lie. The federal records, obtained under the Freedom of Information Act, reveal that Romneyâs initial rescue attempt at Bain & Company was actually a disaster â leaving the firm so financially strapped that it had âno value as a going concern.â Even worse, the federal bailout ultimately engineered by Romney screwed the FDIC â the bank insurance system backed by taxpayers â out of at least $10 million. And in an added insult, Romney rewarded top executives at Bain with hefty bonuses at the very moment that he was demanding his handout from the feds."
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I thought this sounded like a liberl plot.
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So the only grandson of a prez that would put this train wreck on the web that you would believe would be barbara or jenna
@Greg11 And it became a plop as in mitt's run is over...
I really don't disagree with what Romney said in general, lots of people DO think of themselves as victims and want an entitlement "something for nothing" socialists government to provide for them. Also there are countries like he talked about which simply do not want peace, they want to wipe out Israel, etc. just like you said. I don't think he should be in trouble for saying what he thinks, in fact it's kind of refreshing to see a politician actually take a stand and say things that might be politically incorrect if that's what he really feels. I would love to see an end to "professional politicians" who run for office as part of a career and that's it. They never really care about the good of the nation.
"lots of people DO think of themselves as victims and want an entitlement "something for nothing" socialists government to provide for them"
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Like iromney , right...a victim that bilked FDIC out of 10 million....get your head out of your @## and pay attention, iromney is for iromney and nobody else !
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"In fact, government documents on the bailout obtained by Rolling Stone show that the legend crafted by Romney is basically a lie. The federal records, obtained under the Freedom of Information Act, reveal that Romneyâs initial rescue attempt at Bain & Company was actually a disaster â leaving the firm so financially strapped that it had âno value as a going concern.â Even worse, the federal bailout ultimately engineered by Romney screwed the FDIC â the bank insurance system backed by taxpayers â out of at least $10 million. And in an added insult, Romney rewarded top executives at Bain with hefty bonuses at the very moment that he was demanding his handout from the feds."
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@PDX Dave All Odumber cares about is being a celebrity. Can you imagine Bush on the View? Bahahahahaha.. POTUS clown.
Nobody asked the village idiot to go on the view....nobody wants to listen to an idiot when they don't have to !
@PDX Dave
I really don't disagree with what Romney said ??
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Because most American soldiers and retires are a burden on America..
They don't want to work( BECAUSE THEIR 75 OR 80 YEARS OLD)
They want things for free (they fought and some were injured and need help remember them??)
in fact it's kind of refreshing to see a politician actually take a stand and say things..
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Like He can't wait to start WW 3 ( everyone better buy a ticket because it will be a show to end All shows)
 Mitt used the tax amnesty plan set up by the IRS when they were looking for terrorist accounts funding the cells in America and said If you sign the admission of guilt and DO NOT do this again you Will not be prosecuted for tax evasion...
They caught a bunch of them Mitt was a big one..
He had to admit to tax evasion and sign for the amnesty that goes into his tax record.
That's why he will never release his tax records and why he will Never become president...Â
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 @cptmac11 Do you have any evidence for this Democratic Party talking point?
@mikew John McCain told me
SHhhh Do you think the people who are supporting mitt will realize he was talking about them???
When he said they are as worthless as used toilet paper....
Do they now see they aren't and Never will be the 1% of the rich that support him???
Do they feel lied to like when they bought that used car that cost them So much and the guy just laughed at them....
Is mitt a used car salesman selling used nonworking republican party issues..
And he said ""but there new and improved""
The picture above is as they say worth a thousand words and none of them good for mitt...
Did I just hear the final bell of this election???
I think so....
The most annoying part of Liberals is that they are arrogant; they honestly believe they are superior and know the truth. As such, they react to any argument with disdain and instead of providing evidence of their own, they do their best to tear down the argument, opinion, or even character of the other. They say Conservatives are close-minded, yet refuse to listen to any other side but their own, often insulting as they go.I saw or heard something recently that said the only acceptable form of bigotry in the U.S. right now is against Christians, and Liberals gleefully lead the charge. So open-minded they are.Discussing anything political nowadays is wasted energy, because it inevitably turns into a contest to see who can be more insulting rather than who can make the best point. What Romney said, the numbers part, was true. He could have said it better and with more class, but he didn't know he was being recorded. If I recall correctly, every president in recent history has had this happen to them, so it should not be surprising to hear more candid statements from candidates when they think the microphones are off. AND of course George Soros' Media Matters and Jimmy Carterâs grandson becomes culpable and holds the tape for four months and releases it now hoping to take the heat off Obamaâs Foreign Policies and HIS failuresâ¦plus the lies he has spewed on how the attacks on our Embassyâs came about⦠and guess what? No one is talking about the Islamist rioting and killingâ¦.like it will have some big negative impact on Romney's campaign. I think the exploding cigar just went up in their face.
"he didn't know he was being recorded." so of coarse that makes it o.k. I can see that mitt is going down in flames. he wants to be mexican so he can get the latino vote. ryan today said romeny is talking out his asshk. what more, what more? darn kgb, you need to stop crying, it will be over soon really i can't wait for the debates, i'm sure robme will shine.Â
 @swimmer ... where in the heck do you liberals come up with all this garbage...if it's true or not, just get it out there and hope it's persuasive...
@KHEB @swimmer Of course, in Florida it's illegal to secretly recod someone else, so charges may be coming.
Other than the grouping of the 47% that will vote for Obama with the 47% who don't pay income taxes, I really don't see the issue that people have with what Romney is saying... everything is pretty much factually correct.  There is a huge portion of the country that he has no chance in hell of convincing to vote for him. Well... yeah. There is a huge number of people on welfare that are, statistically, much more likely to vote for Obama. Indisputable. 47% of Americans don't pay income tax, and that group is poorer and therefore benefits hugely from welfare. They are more likely to vote for Obama, but there are also some demographics in this number that are conservative, so not a blanket. Factually, however, the statement is true... Romney is unlikely to get these votes.
 @jonsiesd2 Here is a known fact if you pay poor people more they will pay more taxes.
Now consider your self enlightened ...Â
 @cptmac11  @jonsiesd2 Who's going to pay them to do nothing? Or who is going to pay $8 a gallon so a guy making change for your 42 oz soda can get $20 an hour?
Certain skill sets are only worth so much per hour. I would never pay a guy who can't do more than push a broom $20 an hour. It's a $5 an hour job.
He hasn't disdainfully written off anyone. He's expressed the fact that America is a welfare state and that under Obama, more and more people are whining little victims, waiting in line for their handouts. This is truth.
 @AmiM And the fact that they Want good paying jobs is............
Reality???
 @cptmac11 I believe there are some people who are willing to work, yes. But unless you're very oblivious, you must have some inkling of the entire welfare mentality. Yeah, some people need help, they get help, and they move on. Too many use welfare and MY money to do nothing. They don't want jobs, they don't want to work, and there are more of them all the time. I'm not a lazy researcher, I can read and figure out how many more people are collecting handouts (no, I am not talking about unemployment) now than there were four years ago.
 @AmiM So 7,000,000 jobs Gone per month??
Do they want to work??
They were before and Still had a house...SOME PEOPLE???
Please......... Here is some reality for you..
Total number of Americanâs on welfare15,000,000
Percent of the US population on welfare4.1 %
Total government spending on welfare annually $131.9 billion
Percent of recipients who are white38.8 %
Percent of recipients who are black39.8 %
Percent of recipients who are hispanic15.7 %
Percent of recipients who are Asian2.4 %
Percent of recipients who are Other3.3 %
Now how many lost their job due to republican wall street politics.??
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I'd like to see the statistical data he was using to make his determination that 47% see themselves as victims.
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I think that data is much like his tax records, just not to ever be seen.
 @Agent Sydney Bristow Here is a link to a table breaking it down. It's quite easy to see that 50% of taxpayers pay all but 3.6% of the income taxes. Making Romney's statement true. No one is going to vote for someone who might just make them start paying something they don't pay now.
And although the top 1% only earn 16.5% of the income, they pay 33.7% of the income taxes.
@Agent Sydney Bristow unfortunatley he does not have to provide any more tax records than he already has. I have to agree with his assement of this nations welfare state. Just drive through downtown Portland and you can see it. Not to mention that all the illegals that work here do not pay federal or state taxes and suck up tax dollars on benefits they should not be getting anyway. They dont exist as far as the polls go ( unless they are voting illegally, which Holder is allowing by not letting staes check for IDs when voting). Â
 @Civ  @Agent Here this is just for you....
 Mitt used the tax amnesty plan set up by the IRS when they were looking for terrorist accounts funding the cells in America and said If you sign the admission of guilt and DO NOT do this again you Will not be prosecuted for tax evasion...
They caught a bunch of them Mitt was a big one..
He had to admit to tax evasion and sign for the amnesty that goes into his tax record.
That's why he will never release his tax records and why he will Never become president.
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 @Civ  @Agent Ha ha I know illegals that work and yes taxes are taken out of their pay And social security as well..
problem is they cannot file taxes and will never see any SS checks when they get old..
So they claim 9 deductions ( the most you can claim without the IRS asking questions)
but yes they Do pay taxes.....Â
@cptmac11 @Agent So what you are saying is that you know someone knowing commiting social security fraud and immigration fraud as well as breaking several other laws and you are not reporting it to the federal and state  authorities? So you are allowing criminals to work in this country( Yes criminals as they are breaking state and federal laws, as well as the emplyers who are no verifying legal status )? You are commiting a crime as well by not reporting it.Â
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 I would not brag about knowing someone like that if I was you.
Mitt is probably correct but should not have said anything if he wanted to be President.
 @bOB Why? Everyone calles him the politician liar, but when he tells it like it is, and tells the truth, people get upset also. No winning for him. Damned if you do, damned if you don't
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@jonsiesd2 @bOB Odumber lies everyday. He is not even American. Should have never been President.
 @jonsiesd2  @bOB Or damned if you lie ...
Yea that works ..
Oh and you're welcome....
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 @NorthernBlackBear So he is a dumb azz???
ROMNEY GETS REAL: OBAMA SUPPORTERS 'DEPENDENT ON GOVERNMENT'...
'Obama Plan Attractive To Those Who Don't Pay Taxes'...
Jimmy Carter's Grandson Tied To Tape? GALLUP: 67% OF DEMS SAY GOVT -- SHOULD DO MORE...
Major Partisan Divide on Appropriate Role...
8,786,049: Yet Another Record for Americans Collecting Disability...
16 people working for each person collecting..
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 @Solipsist01 ... why is it, when people are losing the argument they resort to race baiting....get real!!!!
Ignorance.
 @Owt_Raged  @Solipsist01 Just not the republicans right???
 @Solipsist01 You know, before SS, there wasn't any such thing as "retirement" People just worked every day to pay their bills. Thousands of years people worked, every day. Then along comes SS and overnight, we suddenly need and are entitled to "retirement".
 @Solipsist01 No, you race baited, you just don't like being called out on it. Most of America is tired of that tactic.
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 @Solipsist01 ... yep...there is an unbiased paper if ever there was one..NOT!
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try Jimmy Carter's grandson and Media Matter....gees....
 @Solipsist01 .. I sincerely hope you are wrong, wrong...we simply cannot survive as the Country we have known all our lives if Obama is re-elected...OMG, if for no other reason than wondering what he has planned to give countries that are not our friends....why is it you liberals cannot put it together...
 @Solipsist01 Because maybe it's not true? Maybe people are tired of the same old, same old. Maybe they are tired, tired of the "he said she said" crap. I am no longer amazed by what I see or read on the internet or TV regarding politicians, or their followers.
Not saying I like the guy but Romney's exactly right. Some people like the free handouts, some are taught & encouraged to be dependent; others have no other choice because of the crappy economy and lack of jobs. It's all about buying votes. Notice the Obama camp aren't criticizing what he said but rather the way he said it. On the flip side though Republicans are equally responsible for splitting the voters in such a way. Bush dug the hole for the country's grave, Obama is merely burying the casket.
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 @Solipsist01  @Phuzz True, some does not equal all, yet he didn't say all, did he? He said 47% of Obama supporters. 9 million on disability, with a huge spike over the last 4 years. The 47% include Public Unions, people who pay no taxes and believe they never should, his campaign contributors, anyone who benefits from public dollars or entitlements.
But we do have a growing population of people who are exhibiting "victim" characteristics. People who think that because they went to college they deserve a six figure income. People who believe that even though they don't go to work 5 days a week 8 or more hours a day, they too should get a full time "living" wage. People who think it's someone else's fault that they bought at the height of the housing market and then were shocked that their home price adjusted (as it has done every 5-10 years since I have been alive)
Being a victim, doesn't mean they are helpless, it just means they are blind to their own decisions that led them to where they are now.
And in all honesty, people who benefit from wealth re-distribution, or whatever you want to call it, are never going to vote in a way that might endanger that cash flow for them.
I have nothing to gain from the direction that either party is going, not personally anyway. What I do want is for my grandchildren to be able to go to work and keep most of their pay. For them to be able to own their own home, without being forced to pay for some other person's house who didn't work as hard as they did. For them to be able to voice their opinion without being shouted down by a few loudmouths who believe their views supersede the views of others.
 @Solipsist01 do you know how many Americans that can vote, actually do vote? So 47% of "the voting public" isn't much, is it? Think about it.
Like I said, I have nothing to gain from either one. I have worked hard for what I have, I'd like to keep most of it. And I'd like my grand kids to be able to keep theirs too.
BTW, calling people "dude"Â Are you twenty?
I'm merely looking at the bigger picture. Romney actually did a good thing by bringing up how the country is so politically polarized, and a good reason why it might be. He's right, there's no convincing he can do of those already brainwashed into a left (or right) mindset. The media has done it's job. I'm proudly independent. Haven't decided yet and probably won't if they're my only two choices. You are offsides, 15 yard penalty. I don't distract, I'm just trying to take people's horseblinders off.
 @Solipsist01 No... you just know people that are in the 53% bracket. That's all.