Sen. Wyden pledges renewed timber county payments

GRANTS PASS, Ore. (AP) - Sen. Ron Wyden is pledging to renew and expand the federal subsidies to timber counties known as Secure Rural Schools.
The Oregon Democrat says that for the next year or two, he wants to renew the payments that brought $105 million to Oregon in 2012 as part of $346 million that went to 729 counties nationwide. As a permanent solution, he wants to go beyond timber country and extend similar payments to rural counties with federal lands and waters being tapped for mining and energy.
"If we are serious about reducing the risk that rural America becomes a ghost town, we've got to find a way to get those communities off the fiscal roller coaster," Wyden said in an interview.
Secure Rural Schools was first enacted in 2000, and has now expired, with final payments going out this year. The idea was to make up for timber revenues lost when national forests cut back logging to protect fish, wildlife and clean water.
As budgets got tighter, Wyden managed to win renewals by expanding the area receiving funds. This latest renewal would expand the subsidies more than ever.
Josephine County Commissioner Simon Hare, for one, is not happy with the idea. He says Wyden's pledge to renew the payments makes it likely voters will turn down a tax increase on the May ballot to restore deep cuts to law enforcement. Hare adds he would rather have Congress focus on producing more timber from federal lands, such as the plan to increase logging on what are known as the O&C lands in Western Oregon.
"The senator is, frankly, out of touch with what is going on here on the ground and with what we need," said Hare.
For more than a century, counties have received a quarter of the revenue from timber sold on national forests. The money goes to roads and schools. In Oregon, 18 counties get even more money from the so-called O&C lands, which reverted to the federal government after the Oregon & California Railroad went bankrupt. Since the 1930s, the U.S. Bureau of Land Management has shared half the revenues from timber cut on O&C lands with 18 Oregon counties. That money goes to county general funds.
After a year of struggling with deep cuts to law enforcement and other county services, Josephine, Curry and Lane counties have all put tax measures on the May 21 ballot to fill the gap left by the loss of the timber payments.
Wyden said the bill is his top priority and he would use his chairmanship of the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee to push it. He has teamed up with Sen. Max Baucus, chairman of the Senate Finance Committee.
"These investments are the lifeline that keeps teachers in the classroom, lights on at the road department and emergency crews on the job in Montana counties," Baucus said in a statement. "And they are rightfully due to rural counties that are home to large areas of federal lands. Now is not the time to pull the rug out from under them."
Just how it will fare in the House remains in doubt. Any new spending must pay its own way by raising new revenue, or cutting somewhere else. The federal budget already faces tough budget cuts through the automatic process known as sequestration. And three members of the Oregon delegation are pressing an alternative plan calling for increased logging on the O&C lands.
Rep Kurt Schrader, D-Ore., said as long as Wyden's plan leads to more exploitation of natural resources on federal lands, it would have a chance in the House.
"That's the only way it would have a chance in the House of Representatives," Schrader said. "I think the senator understands that."
Lane County Commissioner Pete Sorenson, who has opposed his county's tax increase proposal, favored Wyden's proposal.
"I think this is a step in the right direction to involve a much broader group of people throughout the country to right this wrong," he said.
Curry County Commissioner Dave Itzen echoed Hare's reservations, saying any money would be welcome, but Wyden's pledge would make it harder to persuade voters to support a tax increase, with no certainty it would provide enough money to restore services. A permanent solution would be more logging on federal lands that produces revenue for the counties, he said.
Copyright 2013 The Associated Press.
"He says Wyden's pledge to renew the payments makes it likely voters will turn down a tax increase on the May ballot to restore deep cuts to law enforcement."
What is the problem with this sentence? Are we supposed to vote for a tax increase to restore deep cuts to law enforcement?
I'm curious. Is it me, or has the credibility and common sense of the average politician and journalist gone completely down the rabbit hole?
@Playanekes It's a hole, but I don't think it is a rabbit hole.
Better idea: No welfare! Instead let these counties raise their property taxes to pay for the services if they want them.
As for those who say "Cut the logs!", I'm OK with that, as long as the government gets the value of the trees instead of the heavily subsidized, miniscule "payments" they've had to date, NO CORPORATE WELFARE EITHER!
Timber welfare! Here's a thought - allow the timber industry to get back to work so this welfare is not necessary. The logging towns could become self sufficient once again.
@wondering How about forcing them to stop offshoring raw timber to China, and force local mills to also cut in metric, since nobody else in the world has any use for a freakin' 2"x4" board that's not even accurately-measured. You can't export what people don't use.
@Playanekes Amen.
@wondering You do realize they just cut and run selling most timber to china with NO jobs here except to clear cut OUR National resources..Â
Where will all this federal money come from?
@jpk it grows on trees?Â
Wyden usually demands action on gas prices (although he seems to have missed this last go-around). He blustered about Hanford to the point of a personal tour, but nothing more. Now he is on timber county payments. Is he up for reelection soon?
Wyden opened his hole again!!!!! Wanting votes. Amazing how politics work. I worked in the lumber industry for 15 years until the spotted owl came into play.
@Rough Grader You were duped if you think it was the spotted owl.
The mill management threw you guys under a bus. I met a logging-truck company owner out of Salem who owned his own hobby WWII B-25 bomber. Beautiful airplane. Wonderful guy. Do you have any idea how expensive they are to own and operate, while the rest of the logging industry is blaming owls and scrambling to adapt to lower pay? While the timber companies export logs because nobody mills in the dimensions used by metric nations?
Sorry, man. You got played. They might as well have just told you "Adapt or Die." You seem to survived. I respect that and wish you the best of luck.
Do you people even look at the Google satellite view ??
there are areas that are being clear cut square miles at a time.
Look at Forrest Grove and just north of there.
For that matter look at any National Forrest and see the clear cutting going on..
@uknow2 Sure its ok to look via satellite.. but not all is actually Federal Land. State, BLM and private lands also sit in some of those areas...  You have to look at the markers that are posted to see who actually owns a particular area. For examples:  From Boulder to McCoy creek, some of that is owned privately. Areas up Boulder Creek is privately owned by several company's including a insurance company, Mud puppy is privatly owned.  And I can name a few more spots up around here that are as well as area's over in the McKenzie side.  Â
@Khre'Riov Ael i-Mhiessan t'Rllaillieu @uknow2 But the timber Is being harvested as per the sat photos...
@uknow2 But private owners have that right to log their land also you see. They still have to follow the cut rules & laws etc.   There's very little on federal sales done around here now. They do not even sell what was agreed upon with eco bunch's as they still are up to the same tricks.  You also need to realize that those are replanted, 6 tree's to every one cut. Private land isn't under that rule.. while most will replant for sustained yield, others do not sadly.  Â
Why so much double talk? "Secure Rural Schools" makes it sound beneficial to society. Should it be called what it is, "Welfare", "Government Aid", "Hand Outs". If there is no longer an industry in the area to support families then it probably should become a ghost town.
Plant trees around Hanford and see what happens? Preseasoned firewood
@Bert Preseasoned firewood, that glows in the dark.
@Saltire @Bert You don't even need to build a fire... just set your plate there and "nuke" it for a minute.
@PlayanekesHow cool is that? Way, cool. :)
"Â Wyden said the bill is his top priority and he would use his chairmanship of the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee to push it. He has teamed up with Sen. Max Baucus, chairman of the Senate Finance Committee."
Use your chairmanship and get the country OUT of the financial straits it's already in! This is just another reason to tax and spend - again. Let the loggers log, and let the mills get back on line. Let the logging companies come up with their plans to save the fish, water and whatever else there needs to be saved, but kill the spotted owl bit. They flew the coop to a newer forest!
BS, he is just trying to win votes. Why are you proposing anti-mining bill at the Federal Level Whineden (Wyden)??? Trying to kill Oregon's economy. People don't realize how much mining brings to the state in dollars and NO we are not like the bozos from the Discovery Channel.
maybe the govt. could keep the $$$ and let the good people of these rural counties actually log Oregon's renewable resouce
@inthegame Who said logging is not going on ??
Go and look at any National Forrest land on google maps sat view and look at the spotty clear cutting going on everywhere Forrest Grove Crater Lake Mt. Hood..Â
"""""""The senator is, frankly, out of touch with what is going on here on the ground and with what we need," said Hare.""""""
What, you mean to tell me the senator who is raising his family in New York City is out of touch with what is happening  in Oregon?  I'm shocked