Treating PTSD: Expansion of medical marijuana to get hearing

SALEM, Ore. (AP) — When the Legislature convenes next week, a Senate committee will hear public testimony on a proposal to allow people with post-traumatic stress disorder to get medical marijuana cards.
Proponents say the drug could help veterans with PTSD manage their symptoms. They say some people with PTSD already have medical marijuana cards due to other medical conditions.
Oregon law allows people with specific medical conditions to apply for a medical marijuana card, including Alzheimer's, cancer, glaucoma and AIDS. The bill would add PTSD to the list of conditions that qualify.
Critics of the medical marijuana program have long fought expansions to the list.
Republican state Sen. Brian Boquist introduced the bill on behalf of a constituent but said he didn't have an opinion of the measure one way or the other. His constituent, Todd Dalotto of Philomath, said he sought the measure after state public health officials twice rejected requests to include PTSD in the medical marijuana program. Dalotto is a member of the Advisory Committee on Medical Marijuana, a panel created by the Legislature to advise state officials.
"The lack of recognition of PTSD as a qualifying condition...has been one of our top complaints about how patients are underserved," Dalotto said.
Michael Krawitz, director of a Virginia-based group called Veterans for Medical Cannabis Access, said marijuana can help people suffering from PTSD find balance in their lives. Military suicides reached a record 349 last year.
"It's not like we have a silver bullet in the medicine cabinet," Krawitz said. "They're struggling to treat these people."
The Senate Health Care and Human Services committee is scheduled to hold a public hearing on the measure Feb. 7 in Salem.
Copyright 2013 The Associated Press.
Shadow did you are you serving? How many times have you had to draw your weapon on a human? There are many things service members have been through I find it offense your calling our service members wimps. If you don't have anything nice to say about or too a service member Keep you fingers from the key board. Lock and load get your ass to the front line draw your weapon on a human. Seems your an expert on how to make other people feel like shot good luck with that in life. Yours truly Airborne Military Police US Army.o
Unless I'm mistaken, isn't testing positive for controlled substances grounds for dismissal from VA benefits?
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The state doesn't superceed federal (Military) law, so any decisions made in Salem are irrelevent when it comes to if the VA benefits recipiant gets booted. Given the prevelence of big pharmas "free speech" on capitol hill, and their entrenched influence within the DEA/FDA, this will simply be yet another case where the federal government is going to have to eventually address the very real issues surrounding medicinal uses of MJ.Â
 @MarkKpic Actually, the VA has been recognizing medical use of marijuana in their stated policy for 2-1/2 years now. They are one of the few federal agencies that allow it.http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/24/health/policy/24veterans.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
 @Jennifer Alexander  @MarkKpic Tell that to all the family members of the veterans who died because the VA denied them organ transplants due to their RESPONSIBLE USE of marijuana...
I was diagnosed with PTSD....golden ticket, golden ticket.....
Sorry to hear about your PTSD from one service member to another you did serve right?
 @deejm2112 There are Vietnam Veterans who have suffered for over 40 with PTSD and are still waiting for disability benefits.....
I support legalization 100% and any expansion to get there is a good thing in my eyes. I know a lot of people helped by the medicinal use and a number who could benefit from its use that do not qualify. I for one wish it was an option for me as opposed to all the man made chemical meds I currently take. Unfortunately I am allergic to marijuana so not an option for me. Federal employees do not qualify even if state legalized until it is removed as a class one drug. For those that say it is just an escape drug for pot heads I would like to mention a relative of mine that had the card and used marijuana for medicinal purposes and after the medical issues resolved turned the card back in so not every one who uses marijuana is a pot head just as every one that drinks is an alcoholic.
Because state legislators are such experts on medical conditions.
 @Fox Hollow Man I'm sorry, you lost me. What was the question?
When God finished creating marijuana he said "And it is Very Good".....says so in the Bible (Genesis 1:31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good).
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Brother, what next? Â Give them pot on the battlefield because it will make them better soldiers. Â Heck, let's throw in a little meth or heroin while we are at it. Â According to the potheads, all of this stuff is harmless. Â Of course, you won't meet any pothead who isn't an expert on everything. Â Get a group of them together and they will solve all of the world's problems. Â Â They are wimps who can't deal with life's ups and downs without getting high.Â
 @Shadow No it doesn't but the military has provide various kinds of methamphetamine and opiates, pain killers, to reduce fatigue or increase aggression and fighting ability.
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From what I understand...there was a long article about meth & ephedra (it was an Oregonian 5 part thing) they claimed that it was 1st made in the 1920's which would pre-date that period...it may have been a German chemist but I thought that it was created in the states first.Â
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Speed/amphetamines are different from Meth. and they have been around for a long time.
 @Shadow I don't want to burst your bubble, but TONS of soldiers returned from VietNam addicted to amphetamines.  They didn't get them on a street corner in Saigon.  "Somebody" passed them out......not naming names, but think about it.
 @Sundowner Where did you get you get your info?
@Shadow  You are obviously ill-informed of the benefits of medicinal pot.
@wondering You are obviously mis-informed of the problems that arise from the consumption of a drug by a person with and already unstable condition....I am not.  Nor am I unaware of the potential benefits of this drug.  I AM however, always looking for a better solution than drugs for ALL instances.  This is NOT a solution to the problem.  May make it better, but also likely to make it worse.  Not an acceptable situation to me.  I just don't feel that this is a good solution.  For one, Marijuana is nowhere nearly as effective at controlling Glaucoma and IOP in patients as readily available pharmaceuticals for treating this condition.  The effects are feeble and duration is short lived with Marijuana consumption compared to pharmaceutical drugs.
When marijuana is smoked or when a form of its active ingredient is taken as a pill or by injection, it does lower IOP. However, it only lowers IOP for a short period of time, around three to four hours.
This short period of time is a major drawback for the use of marijuana as a glaucoma treatment. Because glaucoma needs to be treated 24 hours a day, you would need to smoke marijuana six to eight times a day around the clock to receive the benefit of a consistently lowered IOP. Because of marijuana's mood-altering effect, smoking so much of it daily would leave you too impaired to drive, operate equipment or function at the peak of your mental ability.
The effect that marijuana has on your ability to function is not the only side effect from the drug, however. Marijuana cigarettes contain hundreds of compounds that damage the lungs. Research has shown that regular and frequent use of marijuana, particularly in high doses, can cause problems with short-term memory and concentration.
As scientists learn more about glaucoma, they have also come to understand that IOP is not the only factor that damages the optic nerve. Recent studies characterize glaucoma as a neurologic disease similar to Parkinson's or Alzheimer's. And, there is increasing evidence that reduced flow of blood to the optic nerve may also cause damage in patients with glaucoma. Unfortunately, marijuana not only lowers IOP, but it lowers blood pressure throughout the body. As a result, it has the potential to lower the blood flow to the optic nerve, effectively canceling out the benefit of a lowered IOP.
I am a physician, and the above are facts. In my opinion, there has simply not been enough research done on the effects of MJ on PTSD patients to justify treating with it.
The VA's doctors ARE NOT going to stop prescribing those BRAIN-FRYING & HOMICIDAL MANIAC INDUCINGÂ MEDS to the veterans and GIVE UP their yearly all-expense paid UNBELIEVABLE VACATIONS OF A LIFETIME paid for by BIG PHARMA!
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Government drugs are bought on bulk and distributed to various facilities.  Government contracts are the meat and potatoes of big pharma but private practice is the gravy.
Just legalize it and quit wasting all this money on talking about it. Everyone deserves the right to take part in a natural gift given by nature.
Anyone can get a card for any reason...that is common knowledge. Â So what is the problem/
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I will NOT allow facts, science, reason, and logic to make a mockery of these proceedings!
Yesterday I wrote a piece on Martin Luther King Day. In it, I referenced âA Call for Unityâ, the letter written by eight white clergymen in Alabama calling on the Negroes rallied by Dr. King to stop being so uppity (I paraphrase). Part of their plea for Dr. King to call off the non-violent marches for equality and justice was this point:
When rights are consistently denied, a cause should be pressed in the courts and in negotiations among local leaders, and not in the streets. We appeal to both our white and Negro citizenry to observe the principles of law and order and common sense.
Today, Americans for Safe Access and our friend, Michael Krawitz, were once again consistently denied their rights to use marijuana medicinally, in accordance with the law and order established in eighteen states (and our nationâs capital) and in defiance of all common sense. (In this case, at least, the judges ruled that Krawitz âhad standingâ; previously they had just dismissed the petition because nobody petitioning could prove that federal denial of medical marijuana would actually harm them.)
Whereâs our Dr. King? And when do we march?
I am so frustrated by the decision that I reached out to my contact at the FBO (Federal Bureau of Obfuscation), Dr. Vinnie Boombatz, PhD.*, for an explanation. His letter is reproduced below:
At issue is a petition for the Drug Employment Administration (DEA) to reschedule marijuana from its current Schedule I status. The judges ruled that the DEAâs scheduling of marijuana is not âarbitrary and capricious.â The DEA, it seems, has solid factual reasons for banning all marijuana use, and by so doing is in no way unaccountable and ruled by political whim. As we all know by now, Schedule I drugs meet three conditions:
(A) The drug or other substance has a high potential for abuse.(B) The drug or other substance has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.(C) There is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision.
Drugs in Schedule I include heroin, lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD), marijuana (cannabis), 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine (ecstasy), methaqualone [quaaludes], and peyote. (Or as Dr. Hunter S. Thompson used to call them, âthe usualâ.) Thus, cancer patients smoking a doobie to ease the pain and wretching of chemo are a lot like the junkie in Trainspotting, the Merry Pranksters, your average rave, a shaman on a spirit quest and whoever it is who can still find ludes.
I know, youâre all screaming âthere are eighteen states that accept medical use of marijuana!â As far as federal courts are concerned, it just ainât so. See, the federal Department of Health and Human Services told the federal DEA in this federal court that marijuana lacks a currently accepted medical use in the United States. Those eighteen states and the city where this federal court decision was made merely refuse to prosecute people who break Schedule I marijuana laws if they have a note from their doctor saying it might help their medical conditions. Those states donât officially recognize marijuanaâs medical value.
âOh,â you complain,âsome states, like Oregon do officially recognize marijuanaâs medicinal valueâ? So do their doctors prescribe marijuana? Aha, no, they donât, so see, marijuana has no accepted medical use in the United States. âBut they canât prescribe because the federal DEA would revoke their license?â Right, because marijuana is a Schedule I drug with no medical value in the United States â we canât let doctors prescribe those!
âBut, but,â you stammer, âthere are four patients in a federal program getting federal medical marijuana from the federal governmentâs medical marijuana farm in Mississippi!â Nope, sorry, thatâs an investigational program that was discontinued. Those patients were grandfathered in and there is no evidence that weâve never investigated that marijuana has any medical benefit for them.
âWait a minute,â you interrupt, âthe federal government has patent #6630507 on the medical value of marijuana!â Yup, we have a patent on one of the molecules in marijuana that we can someday put into a pill, spray, or inhaler and sell at a high-profit mark-up to insurance providers and Medicare. Not a crude plant you can grow at low cost at home with lots of molecules in it that work synergistically and have never caused a fatal overdose.
âCâmon now,â you kvetch, âthe federal government has known since 1974 that THC can kill cancer! There are 11,734 published studies on cannabis and another 6,599 on THC in the federal governmentâs PubMed database!â Calm down, the federal government is very interested in the medical efficacy of molecules and compounds that can be derived from marijuana and put into patentable pills like Marinol®, sprays like Sativex®, and inhalers (weâre still working on those). So much so that we rescheduled Marinol® pills down from Schedule II (like cocaine and meth and Oxycontin) to Schedule III (like Vicodin and testosterone and steroids).
âHold on,â you ask, âyou mean dronabinol pills that contain 100% synthetic THC**?â Exactly. 100% THC, suspended in a sesame oil capsule, has a medical use, lower abuse potential than cocaine and meth, and can be used safely when supervised by doctors. 10%-25% THC, suspended in a plant flower with a whole bunch of other cannabinoids, has no medical use, even when supervised by doctors, because it is as likely to be abused as heroin. Itâs really quite simple â patents make molecules safer.
âThat,â you mutter in disbelief, âis the most capricious and arbitrary thing Iâve ever read.â No, dear reader, it is not. For we have actually suggested that natural THC harvested from pot plants be listed at Schedule III if it is extracted by corporate people to make pills, but remain at Schedule I if it is grown by natural people to roll joints.
I hope this clears up any confusion.
Satirically,
Dr. Vinnie Boombatz, PhD. - Assistant Adjutant Administrator of Annoying Acronym Acquisitions (AAAAAA) Office of Disinformation, Federal Department of Obfuscation
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Actually you have to show a three year medical history from your primary doctor proving you need it.  Nobody just walks into one of the clinics and says give me a card.  Look it up, its not that easy.  The list of ailments is quite extensive, but having a headache once in awhile will not get you a card.  Must be in your medical files.   Â
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 @Dr. Rawdog  @MrAchilles I second EXACTLY what Dr. Rawdog has stated.  100% correct.  I too, am no stranger to this.  No, I do not write scripts for this stuff. Sorry. You cannot convince me that this is more effective than Western Medicine at relieving patient's symptoms.
The Veterans are killing themselves because after the VA "DIAGNOSES" them "CRAZY FOR LIFE" in their medical records and releases those medical records to every database in the world...THEIR LIVES ARE OVER. The same VA center that "DIAGNOSES" the veterans as "CRAZY FOR LIFE" are the same one sending those veterans VA "DISABILITY CLAIM DENIED" Letters.
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You'd want to kill yourself if you had to look forward to spend the rest of your life in a prison-like & all-controlling no-privacy-allowed VA 12-Step religious AA/NA cult & "Jesus Saves" insane asylum shelter for the rest of your life & sort clothes (under armed guards) at Goodwill as "Job Training"
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@Dr. Rawdog  Obviously you are not a real doctor, otherwise you would be educated on the benefits of several conditions, number 1, Cancer.  My wife has a friend that makes candy for cancer patients, she is a Godsend.  Very well respected in the cancer treatment centers. Please, just get educated instead of being judgmental.  Would you rather these patients get addicted to narcotics and have every major organ in their body attacked because of it?  People die from alcoholism and dependency on pills long before they do consuming marijuana. Â
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Marijuana NEVER has been a T.O.C. for ANY CONDITION. Â It still isn't. Period.
actually it does help and it helps bipolar illness. I'v been smoking for a long time but before that I was taking crap antidepressant pills and all they did was make me feel worse,atleast now I can consentrate and get on with living. You and whoever else can keep that poison that Dr.s love giving out. not to mention Iv heard a Dr. only gets about a handful of hours to study  pain management so what makes them experts?
 @Sherry Fry @Dr. Rawdog You can say whatever you like about marijuana...it's natural, it should be legal, it helps with pain, blah, blah.  But it allows you to concentrate?  Did you re-read your comment before you hit "Post Comment"?  Now you're just cracking me up!
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 @Dr. Rawdog Some people just don't make very good advocates....:)
Anyone who finds the least comfort from consuming a natural herb in pursuit of individual happiness need not encounter any opposition. And, those that would interfere in that pursuit confront the most extreme censure.
Which is worst - weed or alcohol?
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Well...by Federal Drug Class Scheduling Marijuana is Scheduled as a Class 1 drug which means that it has no medically beneficial use same as Methamphetamine. Whereas, Alcohol isn't classified as a drug at all. Here are the qualifications of a Class 1 drug:
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Ironically, the requirements for Class 1 drugs seem to fit the known social use/abuse of Alcohol and defy qualification, by every validated study and general knowledge, of Marijuana. So the answer to your question is painted in blood on the nations highways and Thanksgiving Day dining rooms. Â
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Alcohol kills more than wars, thats saying something.........
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According to your list, Cirrhosis kills more than violence, since they don't really include specifically war. I never said it was the #1 killer [heart disease]ala [smoking].
So how come cigarettes aren't a Schedule 1 Narcotic?
 @Sherry Fry Wrong. CVD is the #1 Killer. Liver Cirrhosis, which can be attributed to alcohol, is like 27th or so on the list.
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Like so many in America: in some form of Opiated bliss but not so much in a clinical setting.  Good question.
Hell Alcohol kills more people a year then almost anything else.
They should be discussing legalization. That way we wouldn't have to deal with all the hokum surrounding medical marijuana and we could conduct some legitimate studies regarding its real medical benefit and not trolling the public for opinions on the matter.
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The testing has been done, just not here. We are the only industrialized nation to have nothing to do with any type of cannabis derivative, even hemp. Regardless of the rules, many countries grow especially hemp and others the culture is entwined. The saddhu's aren't over from lung cancer.
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Ever heard of Raphael Mechoulam, Yechiel Gaoni, and Habib Edery from the Weizmann Institute of Science in Rehovot, Israel in 1964? They discovered the molecule known as THC and eventually found out we had a receptor system that our bodies in nature will accept cannibinoids, or called the endocannibinoid system. Mechoulam had a hand in Israel's current Medical Marijuana program which invests heavily in testing for PTSD and the Israeli Armed Forces.
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Or......... Dr. Mahmoud El Sohly @ the University of Mississippi and head of the federal medical marijuana program or the Compassionate Investigational New Drug program.In existence as the CIND since at least 1967 and probably the 1950's and earlier.
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"The article goes on to say, âAlthough he says he has never smoked it, ElSohly is a big marijuana fan. He is an informed believer in the medical properties of THC, the chemical in the plant that produces a psychoactive high and gives relief to people with chronic ailments such as cancer or Parkinsonâs.â
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The DEA also claims that smoked marijuana is not medicine. Not absolutely true, not absolutely false. Expectorant vs. congestant, however, Mississippi St. continues to supply patients with smokeable marijuana once a month to this day. They are grown in Ms and then shipped to Triangle Research in NC and packaged and then sent on their merry way.Â
Wow Thank God I live in Washington.
PTSD definitely belongs on that list.
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If smoking a blunt decreases the pain of a soul haunted by the nightmare of combat by one iota then let them smoke because they have already paid dearly for those precious American Freedoms that no American has the right to take for granted.Â
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 @Icarus  @QuandoQuandoQuando Indeed!
@Icarus well said and fully agree
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Some time taking their life also helps right.
You are not no doctor,unless you steadied  at the University of morrons because thats exactly what you sound like.