Unintended consequences to cuts no one thought would happen

WASHINGTON (AP) - It's not the first time that government economic engineering has produced a time bomb with a short fuse.
Back in 2011, few lawmakers, if any, thought deep and indiscriminate spending cuts, totaling about $85 billion and now starting to kick in, were a smart idea.
The across-the-board cuts, set up as a last-resort trigger and based on a mechanism used in the 1980s, are a reality largely because President Barack Obama and House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, failed to find a way to stop them.
Republicans, influenced by tea party and other conservative factions, insisted on just spending cuts to narrow the deficit. Tax increases were out.
Obama and the Democratic-run Senate didn't budge from a mix of cuts and increased tax revenues.
"Arbitrary" and "stupid" Obama called the auto-pilot cuts, known as sequester.
But history shows a long trail of unintended consequences from government actions - or inaction:
-President Franklin D. Roosevelt, after a solid re-election victory in 1936, believed that the Great Depression was winding down. Unemployment was declining and economic activity was coming back.
Roosevelt and Congress believed it was time to cut free-flowing government spending and raise taxes. The Federal Reserve tightened its financial reins. But the fragile economy couldn't withstand the blows. The Depression roared back, lasting until the 1940s when U.S. involvement in World War II finally revived the economy.
-President Ronald Reagan's ambitious 1986 overhaul of the tax code simplified taxes and closed many loopholes, including repealing the popular tax deduction for credit-card interest. Then people started borrowing heavily against fast-rising equity in their homes; that interest still was deductible.
But the practice eventually helped put millions of homeowners under water on their mortgages when the housing bubble burst, contributing to the 2007-2009 recession.
-The Fed has kept short-term interest rates unusually low and printed money to keep downward pressure on longer-term rates, easing borrowing for businesses and individuals.
Yet retirees and other savers are earning near-zero interest on bonds and savings accounts, and many investors are jumping into riskier transactions in search of higher returns.
Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke and many mainstream economists argue that the Fed's stimulus policies have helped the housing and financial sectors recover and kept the downturn from getting worse.
One leading Fed critic Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tenn., accused Bernanke at a hearing last week of "throwing seniors under the bus" by driving down interest rates on their savings to almost nothing.
-The tax cuts of 2001 and 2003 were first proposed by Texas Gov. George W. Bush as he campaigned for president in 2000. At the time, the economy was enjoying rare multi-year budget surpluses and government economists were predicting surpluses well into the future. Bush told cheering audiences his tax cuts would return to taxpayers "what is rightfully yours."
Those cuts long have outlived the surpluses, which vanished in Bush's first year in office. Deficits returned with a vengeance and have grown ever since.
But most of them remain today, trimmed only slightly by the New Year's deal that ended Bush's tax breaks for households making over $450,000 a year.
Economists view those tax cuts as one of the biggest drains on the Treasury, and a major contributor to the spiraling government debt.
-Wars in Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq lasted far longer and cost much more, in terms of U.S. lives and dollars, than anticipated.
-Social Security has become one of the most expensive federal programs ever. When it was created in the 1930s, the average life expectancy was about 65. Longer life expectancies and the coming retirements of millions of baby boomers have put enormous strains on Social Security, as well as Medicare and Medicaid.
And now the sequester.
"It's not hard to come up with something better, yet all efforts to do so went down the toilet for various reasons," said economist Bruce Bartlett, who held economic posts in the Reagan and first Bush administrations.
"And I think people didn't realize how wedded Republicans are to not raising taxes."
Still, no one really thought the cuts would happen, he added.
Stan Collender, a former staffer on both the House and Senate budget committees, said Congress is "very short-term focused. The longer-term consequences are of very little concern to people who have to run for re-election every two years," said Collender, now a partner at Quorvis Communications, a financial consulting firm.
More House districts have been redrawn in recent years with political factors in mind, and that's tended to concentrate conservatives in Republican districts and liberals in Democratic ones.
And set the terms of the debate on Capitol Hill.
"If people in your district are hell bent on cutting spending, even if it hurts the economy, and applaud your intransigence, then that's going to be your priority and your vote, even if it's not necessarily good for the country," Collender said.
The sequester now in play is actually an updated version of the Gramm-Rudman-Hollings Act of 1985. There also was a small sequester in 1986, and a big one planned for 1990.
The latter was avoided only after President George H.W. Bush broke his "no new taxes" pledge to join Democrats in a deficit-reduction compromise that raised taxes.
There was a huge GOP backlash, one that many politicians believe contributed to Bush's 1992 re-election defeat to Democrat Bill Clinton.
Clearly not the consequence Bush had in mind
Back in 2011, few lawmakers, if any, thought deep and indiscriminate spending cuts, totaling about $85 billion and now starting to kick in, were a smart idea.
The across-the-board cuts, set up as a last-resort trigger and based on a mechanism used in the 1980s, are a reality largely because President Barack Obama and House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, failed to find a way to stop them.
Republicans, influenced by tea party and other conservative factions, insisted on just spending cuts to narrow the deficit. Tax increases were out.
Obama and the Democratic-run Senate didn't budge from a mix of cuts and increased tax revenues.
"Arbitrary" and "stupid" Obama called the auto-pilot cuts, known as sequester.
But history shows a long trail of unintended consequences from government actions - or inaction:
-President Franklin D. Roosevelt, after a solid re-election victory in 1936, believed that the Great Depression was winding down. Unemployment was declining and economic activity was coming back.
Roosevelt and Congress believed it was time to cut free-flowing government spending and raise taxes. The Federal Reserve tightened its financial reins. But the fragile economy couldn't withstand the blows. The Depression roared back, lasting until the 1940s when U.S. involvement in World War II finally revived the economy.
-President Ronald Reagan's ambitious 1986 overhaul of the tax code simplified taxes and closed many loopholes, including repealing the popular tax deduction for credit-card interest. Then people started borrowing heavily against fast-rising equity in their homes; that interest still was deductible.
But the practice eventually helped put millions of homeowners under water on their mortgages when the housing bubble burst, contributing to the 2007-2009 recession.
-The Fed has kept short-term interest rates unusually low and printed money to keep downward pressure on longer-term rates, easing borrowing for businesses and individuals.
Yet retirees and other savers are earning near-zero interest on bonds and savings accounts, and many investors are jumping into riskier transactions in search of higher returns.
Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke and many mainstream economists argue that the Fed's stimulus policies have helped the housing and financial sectors recover and kept the downturn from getting worse.
One leading Fed critic Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tenn., accused Bernanke at a hearing last week of "throwing seniors under the bus" by driving down interest rates on their savings to almost nothing.
-The tax cuts of 2001 and 2003 were first proposed by Texas Gov. George W. Bush as he campaigned for president in 2000. At the time, the economy was enjoying rare multi-year budget surpluses and government economists were predicting surpluses well into the future. Bush told cheering audiences his tax cuts would return to taxpayers "what is rightfully yours."
Those cuts long have outlived the surpluses, which vanished in Bush's first year in office. Deficits returned with a vengeance and have grown ever since.
But most of them remain today, trimmed only slightly by the New Year's deal that ended Bush's tax breaks for households making over $450,000 a year.
Economists view those tax cuts as one of the biggest drains on the Treasury, and a major contributor to the spiraling government debt.
-Wars in Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq lasted far longer and cost much more, in terms of U.S. lives and dollars, than anticipated.
-Social Security has become one of the most expensive federal programs ever. When it was created in the 1930s, the average life expectancy was about 65. Longer life expectancies and the coming retirements of millions of baby boomers have put enormous strains on Social Security, as well as Medicare and Medicaid.
And now the sequester.
"It's not hard to come up with something better, yet all efforts to do so went down the toilet for various reasons," said economist Bruce Bartlett, who held economic posts in the Reagan and first Bush administrations.
"And I think people didn't realize how wedded Republicans are to not raising taxes."
Still, no one really thought the cuts would happen, he added.
Stan Collender, a former staffer on both the House and Senate budget committees, said Congress is "very short-term focused. The longer-term consequences are of very little concern to people who have to run for re-election every two years," said Collender, now a partner at Quorvis Communications, a financial consulting firm.
More House districts have been redrawn in recent years with political factors in mind, and that's tended to concentrate conservatives in Republican districts and liberals in Democratic ones.
And set the terms of the debate on Capitol Hill.
"If people in your district are hell bent on cutting spending, even if it hurts the economy, and applaud your intransigence, then that's going to be your priority and your vote, even if it's not necessarily good for the country," Collender said.
The sequester now in play is actually an updated version of the Gramm-Rudman-Hollings Act of 1985. There also was a small sequester in 1986, and a big one planned for 1990.
The latter was avoided only after President George H.W. Bush broke his "no new taxes" pledge to join Democrats in a deficit-reduction compromise that raised taxes.
There was a huge GOP backlash, one that many politicians believe contributed to Bush's 1992 re-election defeat to Democrat Bill Clinton.
Clearly not the consequence Bush had in mind
So i got about 1/3 through this garbage article and almost fell out of my chair. The mention of Ronald Reagan's "ambitious overhaul" and the attempted connection between people today losing their homes from THAT tax change is LAUGHABLE at best. 1986 - 2006 is 20 years....the "bubble" didnt burst (according to this article) until 2007-2009, which means most people had less than 10 years left on their mortgages whom already had a mortgage.
Look...its simple math people.
We make about about 1 trillion less each year than we spend, if your household is spending 20%-40% more per year than you make...in just a few years you will be underwater, no matter whom is at the reigns of the checkbook.
CUT SPENDING AND STOP BLAMING!
This is like watching the neighbors pitbull maul their kids. I feel bad for everyone involved, but they put that dog in that house, not me.Â
it's not the Bush tax cuts that are a drain. its the Obama over spending.
Hey Obama tighten up your belt. No more vacations "you or family & families." time to pay the piper. Oh that's right your above the people who believed your pack of lies and voted you back into office. Our men and women serving our country deserve better than what your handing them Oh I know none of this is your fault it was Bush, Regan or the dog. But the truth is your turning this country into a socialist 3 world nation and your proud of it.
I am disgusted that one of these "budget cuts" has been shoved onto our soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan. I am sickened to the fact that this administration has stopped serving our soldiers breakfast on their base!! I can't even fathom the fact that soldiers fighting and dieing everyday, waking up to their day, finding a sign on the mess hall saying closed to budget cuts. Seriously???? We can't even feed the men dieing for us over there?
So atrocious to me. I would love to these lawmakers on a morning mission, or come back from a three day mission, to find NO food for them. This makes me want to scream with disgrace!!!!
Caption for this photo: "When I hold my lips like this, I can make high pitched fart noises." Peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwuuuuuuuu!
These buttholes at AP can't stop blaming Bush (or Regan now) can they? Oh my God, give it a rest already.
All this and we just gave how much to Greece? WTF?
Fire the government like Iceland did. It's broken beyond repair.
@PDXBEARÂ No kidding. Â But how do we get 300 million American's off their darn couches?
@Silver Surfer Burn the couches. It could seriously be a thing...like when Republicans burn books or music....you know, couches instead.Â
Look at the face of arrogance and ineptness. Time and time - he just doesn't care. He is indifferent. He takes us time and time to the cliff - and invites us to jump off the cliff with him.Â
Never before has a U.S. President - time and time again - expressed such indifference toward what is SUPPOSED to be his elected job - being a "leader".Â
Barack Obama - who just last month passed along 50 BILLION in spending outside of our budget for the East Coast states - in hurricane relief. But really and truly - those states needed to be told to pay for those costs themselves - raise their state taxes to pay for all of that. RAINY DAY PLAN for natural disasters - not rely on a TANKED U.S. Government to bail them out. This tanked U.S. President who had yet to approve a federal budget knew all of that - most of all. And yet he still approved 50 billion in spending - money we do not have. Money Uncle Sam will now have to raise federal taxes in order to "recover".Â
Why did we re-elect this inept uncaring and calllously detached man? Beats me. This month is the unreal SURREAL traumatizing sequestration issue - and once again all Barack Obama did - was ineptly look the other way.Â
@englishdaisy Congress passed Hurricane Sandy relief, Obama just signed it.
If that picture doesn't convince you that he is nothing more then a petulant self absorbed child.......god help us !
These cuts will not effect the entitlement programs. They will however affect programs that hurt the middle class. Why? because the republicans want to take political power away from the middle class. No political power no representation. The middle class in this country will become the poor class. So you middle class republicans that think the republican party is representing you are living in a dream. Let's see your whining in a couple of years when you will less afford what you barely can afford now. Nothing like you rickheads cutting your own throatsÂ
@lousecrapton That's interesting...ly false. The republicans tried to pass a bill to allow the president to make the cuts in any area he saw fit to avoid this kind of non-discriminate cutting. But Harry Reid refused to let the senate vote on it and the president said that he would veto it even if it was to pass.
There go your lies, right out the window into the light of the day.
@lousecrapton lousecapton - these monies will IMPACT Defense of our nation. In very real terms.Â
But what do dems who have been hookwinked by Obama care - all you are fixated on is the LIE Obama has told you - that we can be protected and defended as long as Obama has his finger on the secret KILL LIST - of innocent civilians worldwide and domestically too. Of rights protected U.S. citizens. And Obama can be Lord King God over all - as long as we all live in fear of him BLOWING US ALL UP. Blowing them all up too.Â
And thousands and thousands of INNOCENT CIVILIANS who Commander in Chief Obama has blown apart and eviscerated because his DRONES TAKE OUT 16.7 percent innocent civilians with each and every one of them - how much has that "COST" EACH OF US - in regard to our ethical and honorable standing in the world? Just think about that, lousecrapton.Â
Obama - because you re-elected him - cruelly continues on and on WAR MONGERING AGAINST THE WORLD - and today what innocent civilian LIVES IN VERY REAL FEAR of Barack H. Obama discretionarily blowing them apart? But you lousecrap don't care one bit about any of "their" reality. Or about the tanked fiscal state of this nation.Â
@lousecrapton You have serious issues. Turn NBC off and come back to reality. There is no political party that cares about people. They all only care about their jobs.Â
I can't believe that there are idiots that listen to obama and especially biden. Here from the Washington Times is one of them.
Vice President Joe Biden told Field and Stream in a report published Monday that âif you want to keep someone away from your house, just fire the shotgun through the door.â That same day, a 22-year-old man in Virginia Beach, Va. followed Bidenâs advice â and was charged with reckless handling of a firearm.
The man was in his bedroom when two armed masked men leaned through the window and warned him to close his bedroom door, WAVY-TV reports. The 22-year-old then stepped into the hallway, grabbed his shotgun and fired several shots through his closed bedroom door, toward the window.
The only person who got arrested that night was him. Police reportedly arrested the man on reckless handling of a firearm charges. The two burglary suspects have not been found and no injuries were reported.
While itâs unclear whether or not the man was acting on advice from Biden or not, it certainly shows how flawed Bidenâs gun advice really is. Keep in mind, Obama selected Biden to head an actual gun violence âtask force.â
@myopinion240Â Yep. Â Like I have said before, Biden is about as useful as wet toilet paper...
@myopinion240Â actually there is nothing like a shotgun to keep a family safe in close quarters. biden got this one right
A doom and gloom president!! Just what this country needs!! Now what are you going Mr. Dictator?!
going * to do
How did his four day weekend with Tiger Woods go? I didn't see any press coverage on the transparent President? or the invisible president
@Bert Inept president.
i remain blissfully apathetic and could not possibly care less about this issue. Â
I THINK WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT VOTING FOR A INDEPENDENT FOR PRESIDENT NEXT TIME AT LEAST THAT WAY BOTH THE REP=AND DEM= WILL VOTEÂ Â TO GET SOMETHING DONE TO HELP THE PEOPLE INSTEAD OF THERE OWEN POCKET BOOKS=IT,S A POWER STRUGGLE AT THE EXSPEND,S OF WE THE PEOPLE
This happen during the Clinton years and the world didn't end. Come on Nobama, show some friggin' leadership.
@The Resistance In order for him to show some leadership, that would mean he would have to actually be a leader, would it not??  Just saying....
@The Resistance Please spell leadership for him and then define it for him.
@None None @The Resistance --- I would if I could speak Kenyan.
@The Resistance What? Leadership? You are speaking Mandarin. If Romney was President, we could at least have said,  "are President has great hair."Â
@TreeWizard ive notified the spellingcops. our not are. FACT. thots and preyers
'-Social Security has become one of the most expensive federal programs ever. When it was created in the 1930s, the average life expectancy was about 65. Longer life expectancies and the coming retirements of millions of baby boomers have put enormous strains on Social Security, as well as Medicare and Medicaid.'
WOW... That is the first time I have read an AP article that actually included the entirety of the realities involved in the looming social security/medicade implosion. Guess the readership in AARP states wasn't considered before the publishing.Â
As far as the entirety of the article... I'm reminded of an old truism.Â
A camel is a horse designed by a government committee.Â
The 'sequester' was "supposed" to be something that it never was. Extreme enough to force both sides to work towards the middle. It was not. Besides, bet your bottom dollar that there will be earmarks a plenty in the next few months.Â
On one side, you have the GOP controlled house. The Norquist union of legislators who consider the elite wealthy to be 'their base'. Since none of 'their base' is going to face dramatic hardship should the "economic downturn' continue or worsen, they have no incentive to budge.Â
On the other side, you have the cult of personality of President Obama. Elected the first time around by ideological promises that never materialized, and this time around by every social service recipiant and special interest group, he is as concerned about his party being viewed as being 'for the middle class' as anything else. He has no reason to budge because making tough decisions about government spending on social programs could cost his party votes in the midterms.Â
@MarkKpic You claim they wont face economic hardship, yet you ignore the fact that what you call hardship another calls devastating, and yet another calls a light breeze. Just because someone has enough money to live a good life even if the economy slips, does not mean they are not being devastated economically, it just means they are prepaired for it. Be careful how you define hardship, a wealthy person losing millions and being able to withstand the blow still means they lost MILLIONS......remember that.
That also translates into hardship for those that are less prepaired and less well off, no poor person ever provided a job to a wealthy person, its a physical impossibility. When the wealthy lose money, they do what the government SHOULD do, which is stop spending, novel concept huh?
Anyone else notice he is making the same EXACT face as he did after Sandy Hook. The guy is a total fake!
Just like any average joe's budget, when you try to cut back, it's gonna hurt alot at first, but if you keep it up, it's worth it in the end. I'm glad they are trimming the budget!
@The_AnnaCannard Sadly they aren't trimming anything.  Even with the sequester they will spend more money in 2013 than in 2012!  This "cut" is a total joke!
Is that his "Jedi Mind Meld" face?
@kilchisriver Don't anger him or he'll send in the Marine Corpse.
LOL!... No he won't. He just gave $750,000,000 to the defense industry last summer to build a new unmanned aircraft for the Navy. It's in the August issue of Air Jobs Digest. The Marines. What was I thinking? He hates the Marines. Well, of course, he should; that hate him too.
@Playanekes Is a Marine Corpse a dead one?  Oops.
@kilchisriver That's the universal "holding in a fart" face.Â
Ya...HaHaHA, there will never be a goofy pic of boner doing....er...what.....D'OH !
@sargerator Put the booze down and take your meds. Momma will be in shortly to care for you before she goes to work. You remember what work is, right?
@TreeWizard harry reid.  hahahha a hairy reed gathers no moss!
@sargerator What are you talking about?
What a great photo. Â That is the picture of failure and he knows it.
@pdxtvguy Â
What you can't recognize a "Spit or Swallow" face?Â
Not one word in the entire article addressing our huge accumulated debt and wasted taxes doing nothing but enriching bankers who own the Fed with interest payments. NO plan ever presented to ever pay off this huge deficit because we cannot do so and are bankrupt just waiting for the collapse. They know it's coming and that's why they are buying up ammo.
@Ramona But, but we really need those robotic squirrels the government is funding.
@Ramona yea and thats why they want to take are right to bear arms from us