Washington is first state in nation to legalize pot
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SEATTLE (AP) - Washington voters legalized recreational pot use on Tuesday, setting up a showdown with a federal government that backs the drug's prohibition.
Initiative 502 would create a system of state-licensed marijuana growers, processors and retail stores, where adults over 21 can buy up to an ounce. It also establishes a standard blood test limit for driving under the influence.
"Today the state of Washington looked at 70 years of marijuana prohibition and said it's time for a new approach," said Alison Holcomb, campaign manager for the initiative.
With 50 percent of precincts reporting, the measure was passing by a vote of 55 percent to 45 percent.
Supporters celebrated with joints on a sidewalk outside the campaign party in downtown Seattle.
"I've been selling pot for 38 years," said supporter Ben Schroeter. "I've been busted multiple times, most recently eight days ago. Prohibition is stupid. We've known for decades it's stupid and this is extremely important."
Legalization could help bring in hundreds of millions of dollars a year in pot taxes, reduce small-time pot-related arrests and give supporters a chance to show whether decriminalization is a viable strategy in the war on drugs.
A related measure also passed in Colorado, while another marijuana legalization initiative in Oregon was defeated.
The Washington state measure was opposed by Derek Franklin, president of the Washington Association for Substance Abuse and Violence Prevention.
"Legalizing is going to increase marijuana use among kids and really create a mess with the federal government," Franklin said. "It's a bit of a tragedy for the state."
The sales won't start until state officials make rules to govern the legal weed industry, a process that could take a year.
"We have a lot of work ahead," Holcomb said. "The biggest issue I-502 presents for the federal government is that we are creating a robust regulatory scheme."
She hoped the year of rulemaking would provide time to persuade federal authorities that the measure dovetailed with federal interests.
Promoted by New Approach Washington, I-502 calls for a 25 percent excise tax at each stage from the growers on until it is sold in stores to adults 21 and over.
They could buy up to an ounce of dried marijuana; one pound of marijuana-infused product in solid form, such as brownies; or 72 ounces of marijuana-infused liquids.
The cannabis would be subject to testing to establish its THC content, and labeled accordingly.
State financial experts estimate it could raise nearly $2 billion in tax revenue over the next five years, with the money going toward education, health care, substance abuse prevention and basic government services.
When state and federal laws conflict, federal law takes precedence. Federal authorities could sue in an attempt to block I-502 from taking effect. The Justice Department has given no hints about its plans.
The campaign was notable for its sponsors and supporters, who ranged from public health experts to two of the DOJ's top former officials in Seattle, U.S. Attorneys John McKay and Kate Pflaumer.
The effort raised more than $6 million in contributions, with more than $2 million of that coming from Progressive Insurance Co. founder Peter Lewis, who used marijuana to treat pain from a leg amputation.
The ample fundraising allowed New Approach Washington to run television ads through the campaign's final weeks.
Meanwhile, I-502 had little organized opposition. Some in law enforcement and public health are concerned that increased access will lead to increased abuse, especially among teens.
Others who opposed the measure did so because it didn't go far enough, and that the blood test limits were arbitrary and could affect medical marijuana patients. Still others worried about a possible federal-state law clash.
For many voters, it came down to the notion that decades of marijuana prohibition have done more harm than good.
"It's ridiculous to be trying to maintain the law enforcement effort - all the people, all that money, all those resources - to prosecute marijuana use," supporter Karla Oman said. "Tax it, legalize it, everybody wins."
Sean Saulter, 30, of Seattle voted for the initiative because he wanted to see the issue go before the U.S. Supreme Court.
For George Cannon, 43, of Seattle, it was an issue of personal freedom. "I'm not into getting into other people's business," he said.
Initiative 502 found strong support among liberals and moderates, Democrats and those with more than a high school degree. Independents and women were split on the issue, as were suburbanites. I-502 fared well in King County and the Puget Sound area, but not in Eastern Washington, Southwest Washington or on the Olympic Peninsula.
Opposition came from voters 65 and older, conservatives, Republicans and those with a high school degree or less. Weekly churchgoers rejected the measure, while those who said they never attend religious services or considered themselves occasional churchgoers favored legalizing pot.
The initiative led among voters with family incomes of $100,000 or more, but was about even in lower income groups.
The survey of Washington state voters was conducted for AP and television networks by Edison Research. This includes preliminary results from a survey of 1,493 voters who voted early or absentee and were interviewed by landline or cellular telephone from Oct. 29 through Nov. 4. Results for the full sample were subject to sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points; it is higher for subgroups.
Initiative 502 would create a system of state-licensed marijuana growers, processors and retail stores, where adults over 21 can buy up to an ounce. It also establishes a standard blood test limit for driving under the influence.
"Today the state of Washington looked at 70 years of marijuana prohibition and said it's time for a new approach," said Alison Holcomb, campaign manager for the initiative.
With 50 percent of precincts reporting, the measure was passing by a vote of 55 percent to 45 percent.
Supporters celebrated with joints on a sidewalk outside the campaign party in downtown Seattle.
"I've been selling pot for 38 years," said supporter Ben Schroeter. "I've been busted multiple times, most recently eight days ago. Prohibition is stupid. We've known for decades it's stupid and this is extremely important."
Legalization could help bring in hundreds of millions of dollars a year in pot taxes, reduce small-time pot-related arrests and give supporters a chance to show whether decriminalization is a viable strategy in the war on drugs.
A related measure also passed in Colorado, while another marijuana legalization initiative in Oregon was defeated.
The Washington state measure was opposed by Derek Franklin, president of the Washington Association for Substance Abuse and Violence Prevention.
"Legalizing is going to increase marijuana use among kids and really create a mess with the federal government," Franklin said. "It's a bit of a tragedy for the state."
The sales won't start until state officials make rules to govern the legal weed industry, a process that could take a year.
"We have a lot of work ahead," Holcomb said. "The biggest issue I-502 presents for the federal government is that we are creating a robust regulatory scheme."
She hoped the year of rulemaking would provide time to persuade federal authorities that the measure dovetailed with federal interests.
Promoted by New Approach Washington, I-502 calls for a 25 percent excise tax at each stage from the growers on until it is sold in stores to adults 21 and over.
They could buy up to an ounce of dried marijuana; one pound of marijuana-infused product in solid form, such as brownies; or 72 ounces of marijuana-infused liquids.
The cannabis would be subject to testing to establish its THC content, and labeled accordingly.
State financial experts estimate it could raise nearly $2 billion in tax revenue over the next five years, with the money going toward education, health care, substance abuse prevention and basic government services.
When state and federal laws conflict, federal law takes precedence. Federal authorities could sue in an attempt to block I-502 from taking effect. The Justice Department has given no hints about its plans.
The campaign was notable for its sponsors and supporters, who ranged from public health experts to two of the DOJ's top former officials in Seattle, U.S. Attorneys John McKay and Kate Pflaumer.
The effort raised more than $6 million in contributions, with more than $2 million of that coming from Progressive Insurance Co. founder Peter Lewis, who used marijuana to treat pain from a leg amputation.
The ample fundraising allowed New Approach Washington to run television ads through the campaign's final weeks.
Meanwhile, I-502 had little organized opposition. Some in law enforcement and public health are concerned that increased access will lead to increased abuse, especially among teens.
Others who opposed the measure did so because it didn't go far enough, and that the blood test limits were arbitrary and could affect medical marijuana patients. Still others worried about a possible federal-state law clash.
For many voters, it came down to the notion that decades of marijuana prohibition have done more harm than good.
"It's ridiculous to be trying to maintain the law enforcement effort - all the people, all that money, all those resources - to prosecute marijuana use," supporter Karla Oman said. "Tax it, legalize it, everybody wins."
Sean Saulter, 30, of Seattle voted for the initiative because he wanted to see the issue go before the U.S. Supreme Court.
For George Cannon, 43, of Seattle, it was an issue of personal freedom. "I'm not into getting into other people's business," he said.
Initiative 502 found strong support among liberals and moderates, Democrats and those with more than a high school degree. Independents and women were split on the issue, as were suburbanites. I-502 fared well in King County and the Puget Sound area, but not in Eastern Washington, Southwest Washington or on the Olympic Peninsula.
Opposition came from voters 65 and older, conservatives, Republicans and those with a high school degree or less. Weekly churchgoers rejected the measure, while those who said they never attend religious services or considered themselves occasional churchgoers favored legalizing pot.
The initiative led among voters with family incomes of $100,000 or more, but was about even in lower income groups.
The survey of Washington state voters was conducted for AP and television networks by Edison Research. This includes preliminary results from a survey of 1,493 voters who voted early or absentee and were interviewed by landline or cellular telephone from Oct. 29 through Nov. 4. Results for the full sample were subject to sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points; it is higher for subgroups.
Better start construction of the new bridge across the Colombia!
Just watch -- the price of legal weed in Washington will ramain the same as current street price, but the tax on top of that will bite. Illegal weed price will likely drop, due to competition.
It should have happened first in Oregon...unfortunately, everyone here was just too busy smoking pot, drinking wine or quaffing beer to get anything done. :-P
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Congratulations, Washington, for finally telling the feds where to stick it. The ridiculous "War on Drugs" only serves to make the cartels and those who support them behind the scenes richer and more powerful. The government has been demonizing the weed all these years because they were making too much money from the prohibition.
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I don't use it and have no intention of doing so, but like alcohol, it should be up to the individual adult to make that choice for themselves.
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Time to tell Uncle "Nanny" Sam: "YOU'RE FIRED!"
the only change will be the sound of freedom. the lack of sound from crashing residential doors and screaming terrorized families and shot puppies. The silence will be deafening.
Can you hear it??? Â Â I hear the mass exodus of Oregonians making the trek to the promised land of green....I wonder if marijuana lovers will make the move to WA.... Â I for one am happy to see this pass. Â As a former recreational user...this is a big win and I hope it comes a reality. Â
@PD1202Â Well maybe Oregons unemployment will drop with the great migration. We here in Oregon can only hope.
 @helpusall Are you saying that unemployed people only smoke marijuana??  That's kind of foolish.
Monkey see Monkey do Oregon will be right behind them real soon.
The Washington state measure was opposed by Derek Franklin, president of the Washington Association for Substance Abuse and Violence Prevention."Legalizing is going to increase marijuana use among kids and really create a mess with the federal government," Franklin said. "It's a bit of a tragedy for the state.
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What is the evidence of this? I do not use (nor have ever used recreational drugs other than alcohol) , never smoked etc.. but I can see how this drug fits more in line with alcohol than other drugs. more kids wont use it anymore than smoking and alcohol. And the mess with the federal government needs to have a challenge but this is how laws work. you challenge them to change them.Â
It will be interesting to see if it helps with the taxation and over crowding issue (and time wasted prosecuting too!)
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What I think is funny about this, would be to think that the State is going to be able to compete in selling pot over the drug cartels and home growers. Is the state really going to see any tax revenue from pot? Grow your own will be the trend, not go to the store and buy a pack at high priced pot. Is the state going to have to crack down on home grow operations like they do with moonshine. The only winner in this vote will be the pot heads and fast food restraunts.
Washington s state full of pot addiction.
that won't last long......pretty much expect this to be thrown out cause of some court battle/case that someone will bring up to say something wasn't done right, etc...
 @Keith you may be right or you maybe wrong, but if we all have truly be come a state of reprobate minds , then indeed things will stay as they are.n how ever people are so "Locked into a singel thought process" that it is a shame that all people think of is getting high, There are manythings positive that come of this as well, New Products for buildings, clothing articles for those who like the feel of Hemp VS cotton, and so much more. as we know the Paper industry is on the frizz, maybe we can have marijuana be used as a substitute for Wood in such things.
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I may not smoke the crap, but I do know it has medical and other benefits. let us grow it and let us make new clothing and stuff with it. it is a win win situations.
Ladies and gents this board right here has become the most popular board, more so the then Gay's marital rights, gee.. I guess this one issue trumps them all.
All of the news stations are SO!!!!! STUPID!!!!!!!!!! Its your fault measure 80 didnt pass. You keep saying on the news (pretending to be an authority on the issue when you guys are clueless) that i will be easier for kids to get it. SOOOO WRONG!! It will be harder for kids to get and legal sellers wont be pushing cocanie, heroin, X. Much safer. WHY WONT ANY NEWS STATION READ THE "CONSTITUTION". THER IS NO SUCH THING AS FEDERAL LAW!!!!! THE CONSTITUTION SAYS ALLL LAWS ARE TO BE MADE BY THE STATE. THE 2ND AMENDMENT SAYS IF THE FEDERAL GOV VIOLATES TO MANY RULES (CONSTITUTION,BILL OF RIGHTS) THE PEOPLE SHOULD FORM A WLL REGULATED MILITIA AND OVERTHROW AND RESET TO CONSTITUTIOAL RULES. ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WHY WE HAVE THE 2ND MENDMENT. Dont forget "income tax" and "property tax" are COMPLETLY UNCONSITUTIONAL!!!!!  SO BEFORE YOU GO ON AIR SAYING SOMETING STUPID, CHECK CONSTITUTION AND THE BILL OF RIGHTS THEN YOU CAN MAKE A REAL OPINION. ALL OF THE NEWS STATIONS OUT HERE KNOW THE SHEEPLE THEIR BRODCASTING TO HAVENT READ THE CONSTITUTION/BILL OF RIGHTS. THE NEWS IS ABUSING ITS POWER OF SWAY OVER US. OUT Â
Nicely said. More people need to understand our constitution. Read if for themselves instead of listening to what the media might say. On another point regarding the media, by calling Cannabis "pot" that perpetuates the stigma. Cannabis has real value for medical use. Maybe they could pull their head out and do some real investigating and reporting instead of just being talking heads looking to sensationalize everything.
 @Ashley Rose-Spangler Too may caps make your post nearly unreadable. Try a little more moderation with the caps next time and I might actually read your whole post cuz this one broke my eyes. Just sayin'.
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ok your points with the law in question are valid but the rest of your comments are just flawed on so many levels.
This state vs federal government issue was already decided a few years ago in a little war (civil war) and the federal government does have laws that the states have to follow. Taxes have already been determined to be constitutional by going through the very constructional process you touting. Taxes were drafted and approved by the  Legislator (the house and senate step one) signed by the Executive branch, the President (step 2) , then challenged by the people in the Supreme court who declared it WAS constitutional. Thus taxes are constitutional as is proven by the very document you are supporting!  you can not argue for something (the constitution) when it pleases you and against it when it doesn't go your way.  (i know that this wont change your mind but maybe someone who is wondering what your talking about reads this)
btw using CAPS doesnt make you more right, it just means people are less likely to listen to your argument
@Tony D ,Wow! This is going to be easy. Almost everywhere I looked on the internet their was a quote about the 2nd amendment deterring a tyrannical government.You should Wikipedia the "2nd amendment" The following in cap's I copied and pasted from their just for you cuz I can tell you dont do much research (early American settlers viewed the right to arms and/or the right to bear arms and/or state militias as important for one or more of these purposes= deterring tyrannical government;repelling invasion;suppressing insurrection;facilitating a natural right of self-defense;participating in law enforcement;enabling the people to organize a militia system.) Not to mention from 1775 on up their has been many quotes by our founding fathers and many others of that time speaking about using a militia to keep the federal gov from controling the states. On to property tax and income tax. Most politicians are lawyers (in my veiw not honest ones). Just because the constitution left a loophole for lawyers to manipulate the verbage (a classic example the 4th amendment with; "probable cause" and "reasonable search and seizure" the 2 loosest terms iv'e ever heard") to the point were the original meaning of the amendment is being violated. You know what TonyD their not going to add many more amendments to the good old bill 'o rights any time soon, IN FACT (sorry about the caps I know how it gets under your skin) THEIR TAKING AWAY YOUR RIGHTS ONE AT A TIME WITH NO END IN SIGHT. Read executive order #11921 and many others. you ever heard of the patriot act? At what point will YOU say its enough?Â
 @Ashley Rose-Spangler what you say is indeed true, goe to the IRS and tell them to pull the law books on Property tax and they can not show it. Nor can they show the law for income tax.
I was a sceptic at first and I researched this completely and found it to be true.
You are 100% correct but I won't recommend not paying our taxes. Legal or not, they're going to take what they feel they are entitled to and there isn't a damn thing any of us can do about it.
The parasitic police state will have yet another cash cow with the whole "driving stoned" scheme, I expect thier arrests of that nature to be triple that of alcohol dui's.
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you do realize that it will actually reduce the crime right? people were still 'busted' for 'driving while stoned' but were charged with more a multitude of other crimes in addition to the DWI charge (its driving while under the influence of... the law includes other drugs besides alcohol.) Now instead of being busted for DWI and possession of drugs and related crimes its just 1 thing.Â
@2easy2berightback And all of the jobless bumkid losers will have one more excuse to stick around and bum money. As far as driving will under the influence, you've got about as much common sense as an Edsel.
Well I guess we let Washington fight the feds and see how that goes.
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Should the feds work with the state, I see this passing next time around.
I support this measure but I would still like it's use to remain behind closed doors. Â We don't like seeing people drink booze on the street and marijuana should be treated the same. Â I respect other's rights to NOT inhale my marijuana smoke. Â The fact that supporters lit up in a public place bugs me since there were probably children in the area. Â So congratulations but please celebrate and practice your new freedom responsibly.
Now I have another reason besides buying fireworks to go across the river to Washington! Â ;)
 @Kennyboy Sadly you will have only 1 day to buy fireworks.
I wonder how many of the negative comments below or above are based on having tried Pot versus just trying to project your ideas or values onto others as if that is your business?
And now you will see Oregon BLEED tax revenue to Washington...
OH MAN Black Hawk chopper flying overhead with FLIR, not a police chopper. I am safe unless they want to question me about the Nuclear device i am using to power my place ?
Oh does this mean that current growers could get there licenses to grow?
Eh how many officers are aware of this? I can jsut see an officer who hasn't had there daily breifing arrive at work and then pulls a person over for having 1 oz on them..this will be interesting to see lol
Franklin says, "legalizing is going to increase marijuana use among kids", it most absolutely will not! Alcohol is legal and kids have found ways to get booze and will always find a way. I think it's a joke that all of these people who pump pharmaceutical drugs down their children are worried that they are going to try a joint at 14 now that it is legal. Wake up! It will be regulated folks! It's not like your kid will be able to walk into a Chuck E. Cheese and get a side of pot brownies with his/her tokens!
 @Farnsworthy Well, I remember an episode in star trek where Q stated that even the government would legalize drug use to help soldiers in war. is this a possibility?
@lee986321 That was a good episode. TNG FTW!
 @Farnsworthy  @lee986321 It was indeed, it covered alot on what would be todays topics, that was an interesting show where the mixed politics, drama, and a great deal of other things into the mix .funny how scifi is becoming scifact and now we even have a real Spaceship in the works for deep space travel called the "100 Year Space ship" Planned by DARPA as WELL as NASA, so that 5,000 dollar toilet seat seat became 20,000 dollar toilet seat lol.
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Well, I wonder what will come when we send people to Mars. What laws will they enact on that planet?
sadly this will go directly to court, 1 judge will have more power than the millions of voters and shut this down. Great system we have here.
Very interesting. I am anxious to see how this pans out.  Hopefully for the good.
Dang, this board is hotter the the Gay marriage board lol.., I guess people care less about the other thing and jsut want to legalise this stuff so that they can have alternative materials for building things I mean this stuff is used fro more then getting high.
I mean legal growers could make houses, clothing and a great deal more..itis why I voted for it.. and I am drug free..that is I don't use drugs.
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I guess all the pot addicts from oregon will be going to Washington......Good, get out of Oregon.
Pot addicts? Seriously? You don't believe that medical use of marijuana / Cannabis is a valid treatment? It is. Ask a cancer patient. Or do some reading and stop being so closed minded. Alcohol is legal everywhere. Does that mean that everyone who indulges in an alcoholic beverage is an alcoholic?
 @sortbait Nah, can just drive over.  Soon we'll be able to take the MAX.
 @brendan  @sortbait LOL
 @sortbait Doubtful. They will continue to work and pay taxes as they always have.
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My dad pays taxes on five acres of farmland but we can't grow hemp on it because of liberty-hoarding Nanny Statists like you. So why don't YOU get out of Oregon?
Personally, I think both of the following quotes from the article are very indicative of why this passed:
"Initiative 502 found strong support among liberals and moderates, Democrats and those with more than a high school degree."
"Opposition came from voters 65 and older, conservatives, Republicans and those with a high school degree or less."
So... now do we start controlling second-hand pot smoke? personally I can't stand the smell of the stuff and I don't appreciate the entitlement people seem to have about using the stuff right in front of you (case in point, all the people in Seattle who started smoking it on the streets just to be in-your-face).
 @Morpho second-hand pot smoke is second-hand smoke and should be treated just the same and probably will in regards to that issue.
 @Morpho I hate the smell of dog poop and the sound of dogs barking, so let's trade.
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Ban dogs in public, and I'll support a ban on pot smoke in public. Sound fair?